WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives.

This episode features musician Julien Baker, a brilliant solo artist and member of the supergroup BoyGenius along with Phoebe Bridgers and Lucy Dacus. In this interview, Julien talks about how we create stories to make meaning in our lives and how important it is to see queer representation in our often heteronormative media. Julien shows us how listening to other people's stories and sharing your own is the ultimate act of compassionate creativity.

Listen to Julien's latest solo record Little Oblivions

Listen to BoyGenius' album The Record

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Why Not Both is hosted by ⁠Pam Shaffer⁠ and produced by ⁠Laura Studarus.⁠ The theme music is ⁠Get Down⁠ by Nyxe.

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