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Credit to the people. and
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they're trying to prove the innocence of their
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client. It's just like, oh yeah, what
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do you think about this? And then we're like, yeah,
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that's no good. And then it's like, okay, well, what
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do you think about that? What they have that we
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don't have is the evidence against their client. And
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so to me, I view this defense
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team as like, I'm a
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decent boxer, but I'm going
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up against a better
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boxer. So if I
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just box this individual, I have
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no chance of winning. But if I
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can make it a street fight and I
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can get them to not box me, but just fight
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me, then maybe I have a
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chance. And that's how I kind of view
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this defense team. I'm going to go Ben
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Stiller on that. Going
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to get all Ben Stiller on you. So
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details of the crimes revealed. That's what a
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lot of the people that
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have followed this case for so long
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will be intrigued by the potential of
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what, uh, details of
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the crimes and details of the investigation,
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because all of this was very hush,
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hush, and a lot of hold back
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information for a long period of time
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here. So people want to
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know what, what will we learn at
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this trial? And you honed in on
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something perfect. This is one of the
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first snippets is,
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and I have a good rundown of
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it here. Let me read this to
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you. Abigail Williams in Liberty, German decided
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to walk across the Monin High bridge
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above Deer Creek, but they were not
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alone. This is coming from the state.
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Mcleelan says bridge guy used
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a gun to force them down the hill
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to do what he wanted. That's a quote.
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He said, Alan was interrupted and
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forced the girls to cross the
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creek where he had them undressed
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before he killed them. He threw
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their clothes in Deer Creek, and
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then he fled the area. This
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is interesting. The way that this
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is worded that Alan was interrupted
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and then forced the girls to
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cross the creek where he had
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them undressed before. of
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murder, two intentional and two felony counts
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of murder. And
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those are my big takeaway
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from what we've learned so far. Yeah.
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Um, the, I, from
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my understanding, two
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of those counts is for murder,
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uh, murder being the result in the process
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of, of trying to commit
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a kidnapping. The, the
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thing here is with these confessions,
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true, false, or otherwise somewhere in between,
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who knows we should
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be, if whichever confession, maybe all
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of them, maybe just some of
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them will be presented at trial
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and we're going to get to
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hear the details, maybe
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not word for word, but some
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of them were recorded, some
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of them were written. And
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so some of those, we should get
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word for word and we will be
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able to, the jury more importantly, we'll
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be able to hear that
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information and try to decide for
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themselves, is this, does
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this lead to this guy's falsely
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confessing over and over again, or he's
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truthfully confessing, or he's doing it, doing
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a little bit of both along the
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way, because here's the thing. The defense
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could spin it, some of these
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things and put a good spin on it and
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say, look, he's confessing
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to people that aren't even dead that
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he killed people that aren't even dead.
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Well, yes and no,
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he could be saying, I killed my
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whole family. Uh, guess what?
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He's been sitting in a cell, not
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seeing his family. He's
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probably wondering if he's found
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guilty, will he have
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any family left? And
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maybe that's what he means by I killed
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my whole family. You know, it's hard to
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say without having, yeah, it's
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hard to say without having the details of
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those confessions. And so that's one thing that's
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going to be really interesting
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to. piece through and
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kind of sort out there. My
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big takeaway was the amount of witnesses
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that they were going to be calling
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for both sides, because what
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I was wondering captain was like I'm going
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through the hearings and following
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the hearings that was leading up to
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this trial and the judge threw a
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lot of stuff out. And a
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lot of that I agreed with, but I
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kind of sat there afterwards going, well what's
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going to be left to talk about at
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the trial and saying that it's going to
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be a five, six week process. I
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question, well, how long lengthy is this trial
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going to be when so much stuff has
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been tossed out? I was thinking we're probably
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looking after you get through jury selection. We're
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probably looking at a two week trial, but then
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we get told 50 witnesses
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more than so 55 witnesses, approximately
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for the state 120 or so for
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the defense. This
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seems like it's shaking out to be what
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it was said to be a while back
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that we should expect
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a five week trial, 21 days
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or so opening statements starting this
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Friday. I'll be intrigued to
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see if they take it for the entirety
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of the day. I would expect so. I
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wouldn't expect that you would just do opening
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statements for each side and, and, and
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rest for the day. I don't think that that would be the
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right way to handle it. But again, I'm, I'm
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not in, I'm not in charge. This is
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not, not my show of course. Um,
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but we will keep an eye
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on it. And I know everybody else out
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there is keeping an eye on it. And
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regardless, this is getting us closer to something
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that we started that unfortunately had to start
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so long ago. And I do
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want to remind everybody during this
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process, especially during this process, the,
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this is going to be very
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difficult for a lot of families.
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The next couple of weeks, the next several
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weeks are going to be very difficult for
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a lot of families. And
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so let's. everybody, please keep that in
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mind. Act accordingly.
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If you wish, say a prayer. Give
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strength to these people. They've been
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through a lot is
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the understatement of the year. And
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they're going to be going through a
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lot, unfortunately, again, in the
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next several weeks.
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I want
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to thank everybody for joining us here
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