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2:30

bringing up this. I had the call from this

2:32

guy. He said they're going to raise gas taxes,

2:34

67 cents in California.

2:36

And I said, you can't be, you

2:38

can't be true. We've already

2:41

got the highest gas taxes in the nation and,

2:44

uh, no, they're going to do it. So

2:46

a big article in the wall street journal today, if you want to

2:48

check it out, um, let's

2:51

talk to Tom in California. Apparently,

2:53

uh, you're in the business somehow.

2:56

Hello, Tom. Oh yeah.

2:58

Hi Tom. Hey, uh, great show. I love you.

3:00

I love your show. But hey, no,

3:02

I, I worked, I worked at probably 10

3:05

gas stations, which is the

3:07

petroleum business technically. And,

3:09

uh, I'm, we're in the eighties and nineties,

3:11

but, uh, this, but what

3:13

happened is that I would, I would,

3:15

uh, I would pump propane gas and

3:17

diesel. And the gas

3:19

was back, back then was about a dollar,

3:22

a dollar one a gallon. The

3:24

diesel was 50 cents and the

3:26

propane was 25 cents. You

3:29

can believe it. Yeah. And I wanted to

3:31

know why. Yeah. I, I saw him

3:33

saying, and then our taxes

3:35

were a high then

3:37

too, but, but I, but

3:39

I've always ever talked about why, why

3:42

the percentages have changed because now propane

3:44

is more expensive than gas and then

3:46

diesel even with, well, I don't know

3:48

about the, the one versus the other,

3:50

but if you look at it's, it's,

3:53

have you ever been to Europe? The

3:56

prices of gas in Europe

3:59

have always. And if we

4:01

were paying two bucks for gas, they

4:03

were paying $6 for

4:05

gas in Europe. It's just way

4:07

more expensive, always has been. The

4:09

reason for it is European countries

4:12

pile on all kinds of taxation.

4:15

But the oil is priced the same

4:17

in Europe as it is

4:19

in lower Slavovia. It's priced the same

4:22

everywhere in the world. It's a world

4:24

global commodity. And there's a

4:26

price that's traded every day. So why

4:28

is it that your state has

4:31

much higher prices than my state?

4:34

I mean, it's taxes,

4:37

it's taxes. That's

4:39

all it is. Yeah,

4:42

one other thing. And yep,

4:44

when I moved from California to Hawaii, immediately went

4:46

from $1.05 and then gas was $1.65. And

4:50

I was like, wow, how's that? Cause they got, what

4:53

do they got to drive it from

4:55

Alaska? It was

4:57

really interesting cause suddenly you got $1.65 and

5:00

it was a dollar over than California. Yeah,

5:02

yeah. And

5:04

they tried to price controls one time

5:07

in Hawaii. And guess what happened?

5:09

Shortage price went up, yeah. Well,

5:12

I'm looking right now. This is AAA

5:14

as of today. The

5:16

average price across the state of California for the cheap

5:19

stuff is $4.65 and Hawaii is $4.59. So

5:23

it's almost as bad. But

5:25

I get Hawaii, they don't produce

5:28

anything over there. They don't produce

5:30

any oil. They don't produce

5:32

any gas. They have to put

5:34

it on a ship and send it to them. So

5:37

everything in Hawaii, that's why Hawaii is

5:39

so expensive to live. But

5:44

I mean, you tell me, I live in New York. The

5:49

average price of New York is 323. I've

5:52

got an electric car and my wife

5:55

drives a gasoline car. And

5:57

I go by gas stations.

5:59

all the time. They always have a three,

6:03

maybe recently, maybe a

6:06

two in front of it. So how

6:08

can New York be

6:11

half of the cost

6:13

in California? Yeah.

6:16

It's our government in California. Instead,

6:18

Newsome guy, bingo, bingo.

6:22

Hey, great show. All right.

6:24

Thanks. Take my call. Thanks Tom. I appreciate

6:26

the call. There's Q. Hi

6:29

Q. What's going on today? You live

6:32

in the state of California. Yes,

6:34

I do. It is quite interesting. Now

6:37

I heard about this about a couple

6:39

of, actually about three weeks ago, they

6:41

was talking about the refineries.

6:44

Mr. The

6:46

governor want to have the

6:48

refinery to have extra storage, lights

6:52

and also for maintenance.

6:54

Yeah. I'm a kind

6:56

of like a person that interests in

6:58

those type of things. Now,

7:00

if you look at the place down in Torrance,

7:03

what they talking about pillow 66, there

7:06

is no room to put in some

7:08

extra tanks there to have an extra.

7:10

Yeah. It's very, they're packed. There's houses

7:12

and businesses right around it. Yes. They

7:15

have no room. Yeah. They already

7:17

got lots going on already

7:19

because of the environmental effect

7:21

of that refinery. Different

7:24

talk show. So what the governor

7:26

is proposing or just telling everybody,

7:30

Hey, suddenly

7:32

he's just saying, we're trying to give it

7:34

a gas. That's

7:36

the bottom line. Looks like

7:38

it's an environmental problem. There's

7:41

no looking that's that's the other thing I haven't brought

7:44

up and I don't

7:48

know if people know this outside

7:50

of California, but the state of

7:53

California is blessed with

7:55

natural resources. You guys have oil

7:57

and gas coming out your ears.

8:00

under the ground it would be

8:02

easy to get but but

8:04

you're limited and agree but you

8:07

gotta understand the greens out here they

8:10

don't want that they're trying

8:12

to protect their future generation

8:14

so that's why they're gradually

8:17

up in the prices for the natural

8:19

resources that we have oh man wait

8:22

a minute check this out down in

8:24

Bakersfield where is nothing but oil down

8:26

there everywhere yeah they set down

8:30

a major refinery down there probably

8:32

about 10-15 years ago and you know

8:35

what it is now it's a solar

8:37

farm now it's a what

8:40

so a solar farm oh well

8:44

that's lovely down yeah

8:46

a lot of a lot of

8:49

jobs was lost and so forth and

8:52

of course there was the price spike

8:54

when they finally shut down that

8:56

that refinery

8:59

so that's what the game plan is if

9:01

you look down the road you see in

9:03

here they want to get rid of all

9:06

fossil fuels here in California that's

9:08

the bottom line but see

9:11

they don't see because they want

9:13

to get rid of fossil fuels whatever the

9:15

after effects that happen all

9:17

right so now okay you want to

9:19

get rid of gas and diesel who

9:23

carries that stuff to

9:25

the stores so

9:27

you're going to let your truck

9:31

to get to yeah yeah Amazon items

9:33

that's fine but where where does where

9:35

that's one more step where does the

9:37

electricity come from well

9:41

they don't have no coal fired

9:43

plants here they do the long

9:45

gone no they're they're they're gas

9:47

mostly gas but

9:50

the solar is yeah there's more and more

9:52

solar but solar can't handle it yeah

9:55

and I know I know

9:57

California is abundantly

10:00

sunny, but not all here,

10:02

not every day. What do you

10:04

do when there's clouds

10:06

come? Hey, that's

10:08

the problem. All right, they try to

10:11

bank that energy up. They got out

10:13

here, they got different battery

10:16

storage sites out here

10:18

that can store the electricity that

10:21

the sun provides. Matter of fact,

10:23

there was an article earlier this

10:25

summer, they said California generated too

10:28

much electricity. Isn't

10:30

that interesting? Too much energy

10:33

because of the solar farms that they have

10:35

out here. Really? But Tom, yeah,

10:38

but Tom, let me just tell you this. Man

10:41

cannot govern man. Remember

10:44

that statement. You see

10:46

that they try so hard to

10:48

try to make it much easier.

10:51

They take one step forward and

10:54

take 75 steps backwards. All right,

10:57

so with that, yeah, the

10:59

government and everything, they're trying to make sure

11:02

that they have become

11:04

green, you know, so their

11:06

your generation, my generation, the

11:08

next generation, the generation after

11:10

that have an Earth

11:12

to live on. But I got some bad

11:14

news for you. There's

11:17

that place called Russia, well

11:19

there's China, there's South

11:21

Korea, there's all

11:23

these other countries outside the

11:25

United States that burn fossil

11:27

fuels. Well

11:29

I do, but I

11:32

gotta tell you, I'm not against alternative

11:34

fuel. I would love it

11:37

if we could power everything that

11:41

you and I need from the sun.

11:46

I'm good on that or there's

11:48

other geothermal or even dams where they

11:51

run the turbines. I'm all for that,

11:53

I'm all for all of the above.

11:55

But the problem is is they're shutting down

11:58

the. Bye. a far

12:00

major source of energy. And

12:03

if you don't have energy, businesses

12:05

can't operate. Therefore

12:08

the jobs are gonna be lost. It's,

12:11

we're not ready to flip the switch

12:16

to 100% alternative, not even

12:18

close. Well, the

12:20

thing is that they're trying to figure out

12:22

the transition, that's the problem. The

12:25

transition from fossil fuels over to electricity.

12:27

Okay, so far they're doing the win,

12:30

they're doing the win and the, what

12:34

is that? The solar deal,

12:36

okay, they're getting there. Yeah. They're

12:39

getting there. But our

12:42

generation, the

12:44

middle class, the low income

12:47

folks, it's

12:52

gonna be tough on them, all right? So

12:54

you can imagine if the, that's

12:57

very kind, very kind

12:59

words. It's gonna be tough on them.

13:02

No, they're gonna be wiped out. Yeah,

13:06

so out here in California, what

13:08

are you gonna do? You

13:11

wanna move to Rapid City? Oh

13:13

yeah, yeah, for people that are listening, go,

13:19

what, what, what, what? Two

13:21

called the other day, I was talking about

13:23

where's the only place you can live in

13:25

the country without natural disasters. And he figured

13:27

out Rapid City South Dakota. So

13:33

I mean, where's it gonna go? Rapid

13:35

City South Dakota, I mean, I don't know.

13:39

No. So

13:43

you know, it's just a bad situation

13:45

out here from California. Hey, originally I

13:47

came from Chicago. The taxes

13:49

there back in the 80s and

13:52

90s was outrageous. Yeah. You

13:54

had the old man himself, Mayor Daley, the

13:56

dad. Yeah,

14:00

of course. Yeah. Yeah, well. Just the

14:02

gangster. You got to grease

14:04

some palms there, Q. Where,

14:09

here or there? Both. No,

14:13

I would never, I'm not going back to

14:15

Chicago, I'm sorry. I'm here.

14:17

Hey, where can I, where can I

14:20

enjoy nine months of sunshine? All

14:22

right. I can go snowboarding or I

14:24

can go to a beach within

14:26

two hours. Yeah. Well, the average

14:29

price in Illinois is $3.43. Yeah.

14:36

Oh, check out the, check out the price in

14:38

Indiana. Yeah. Well, I got to

14:40

hit a break, but Q,

14:43

thank you. Yes.

14:45

Um, this is the third time

14:47

that's called. Should I hold or what do I

14:49

do? There's

14:53

a guy named Mark Harmon who runs

14:56

a group that is radiant

14:59

energy and he's basically

15:02

an energy consultant around the world.

15:05

And he put out

15:07

a piece two days

15:09

ago that says Sierra

15:11

club renewables, not enough

15:14

for AI. We need

15:16

nuclear. And

15:18

so we're going to AI and

15:20

the data centers are

15:23

apparently huge, humongous, uh,

15:26

gobblers of power. They

15:28

need more energy than, I mean,

15:31

it's, it's a, it's going to stop

15:33

the advancement of AI. If they don't figure

15:35

out how to provide energy for, uh, data

15:39

centers. And so

15:41

the Sierra club says, yeah, the renewables,

15:43

the wind, the solar, all that stuff

15:46

is not going to be enough for

15:48

AI. And they said, we

15:50

need to go Nuke. And

15:53

last month, the Sierra club

15:56

quietly reversed 50

15:58

years of anti-nuclear AI. advocacy

16:01

to endorse nuclear energy as

16:03

the clean source of power.

16:07

And they say that it will

16:09

protect the climate. And

16:11

there's another story out about Amazon

16:17

has made a direct investment into

16:20

building nuclear reactors, or small

16:22

nuclear reactors that they're going

16:25

to build in various places,

16:28

like the great big ones with the cooling

16:30

towers. They're going to be much

16:32

smaller, but Amazon is going to go nuke to

16:36

run their data centers. Here's

16:39

Mark Nelson on CNBC the other

16:42

morning talking about this. Got one. I

16:46

think without a doubt we're going to

16:48

see this load for new AI locked

16:50

in place with whatever power plants are

16:53

available as the long

16:55

term plan to deploy nuclear comes

16:57

to fruition. In other words, they're going

17:00

to figure out where they want to put data

17:02

centers, make sure transmission is going to work, get

17:04

whatever power they can available, and then build it

17:07

up along with deploying the new nuclear.

17:11

He's convinced that this

17:13

will actually be the

17:16

clean source of power, which will

17:19

lead toward essentially

17:22

solving the problem about getting enough

17:24

power that is not fossil fuel.

17:27

And he talks about where they're going to build these

17:29

new plants. Cut to.

17:33

So one of the first things I would

17:35

say is that almost every American nuclear plant

17:38

was originally sized back in the 1970s and

17:40

80s for double or triple the amount of

17:42

nuclear power that eventually got built with the

17:45

turn away from nuclear in the 80s and

17:47

90s after the three

17:49

mile island in Chernobyl. So existing

17:51

nuclear plants have massive available transmission

17:53

corridors and you don't have to

17:55

get anyone's permission to add more

17:57

wire to go through it. aren't

18:00

taking any new land. Then at

18:02

the nuclear plants, nuclear plants that have been operating

18:04

for 30 or 40 years, now

18:06

that turns into a strength because it means that

18:08

everyone living around the plant knows about the plant,

18:11

perhaps works at the plant, goes to

18:13

schools paid for by the plants. There's

18:15

a yes in my backyard that you're

18:17

gonna see overwhelmingly in these projects. Yeah.

18:21

One more from Cutfor talking about,

18:23

no, high-tech is not going to control

18:25

the nuclear industry. Big tech

18:28

companies do not want to operate nuclear,

18:30

so to get a nuclear plant built

18:32

is still going to require funding and

18:34

buy-in from a lot of parties. I

18:36

think what's going to be clear is

18:39

that after a decade of pointing the

18:41

public and the government and nonprofits

18:43

in one direction, all the big tech companies

18:45

said we're powered by renewables. It was false,

18:48

it was never true, they were being powered

18:50

by the grid, which is coal, nuclear, hydro

18:52

and some renewables, so a

18:54

natural gas. What we're seeing now

18:57

is that the big tech companies are

18:59

finally stepping up to a leadership position

19:02

that they always should have had to

19:04

deploy the nuclear that will benefit all

19:06

of society. Yeah. So

19:08

if they're very powerful, they have

19:10

a lot of money, they have a lot of

19:12

lobbyists. Patrick

19:14

Morehead, another big energy guy, says

19:17

this is really coming down to the

19:20

race between the US and China. China

19:22

absolutely has the edge. They built 72

19:25

nuclear reactors in the last decade

19:27

in the same span that

19:30

we planted two in Georgia and

19:33

one in Europe. They

19:35

are making investments and right now they

19:37

absolutely have the upper hand unless

19:40

we act very soon. 72

19:45

nuke plants in the last 10 years in China. So

19:48

we are way, way, way, way,

19:50

way behind and

19:53

this may be the solution. The Sierra Club

19:55

going along with it saying yeah, this is

19:57

clean energy and

19:59

they're in sourcing it. And

20:01

Gavin Newsom may be driving

20:03

the price of gasoline

20:06

so high that people will grasp

20:09

for any other kind of power

20:11

other than fossil fuel. We'll

20:14

be back. From New

20:16

York City to the world, Tom

20:19

Sullivan. So

20:21

we got our

20:24

unofficial geologist of the show

20:28

on the line, Mark in Louisville, Kentucky.

20:31

We start talking about stuff down there in the dirt

20:33

you call. What do you

20:35

make of all this? Well,

20:39

the gentleman you were talking about earlier is 100%

20:42

accurate. In fact, three

20:45

weeks ago I was doing due diligence

20:47

on a 800,000 square

20:50

foot vacant electroplating

20:52

plant in Ohio. Wow.

20:55

That is being purchased

20:58

by a data farm

21:00

company because it has 12,000

21:03

amp service into

21:05

the building. Sounds

21:07

like a lot. Sounds

21:09

like a lot. 12,000

21:12

is ridiculous. Your

21:15

average commercial panel is 400 to give

21:17

you an idea. Oh my gosh. So,

21:20

yeah, so, you

21:23

know, you

21:27

look at the massive investment

21:30

in AI that's going into

21:32

AI. Right. I think I saw

21:34

somewhere the other day that 30% of the

21:36

electricity usage in the state of Virginia now

21:38

goes to data. Wow.

21:41

It's 30%. Well, that's

21:43

a lot of those government data centers

21:45

and all the contractors. Yeah, that makes

21:47

sense. Correct. That's

21:50

a lot. Correct. Yeah. And

21:53

we're not even talking about EV's, but being

21:55

attached to that. Just the

21:57

data farms themselves. So,

21:59

the answer, the

22:01

only answer is nuclear. Now

22:05

the only thing, you know, like

22:07

Westinghouse has come up with their

22:09

new event, E-Vinci micro

22:12

reactor, which I think is a five

22:14

gigawatt. Is that what

22:16

Amazon's buying those? I don't

22:18

know if they're using, but it's

22:21

that, you know, there's, there's several

22:23

of these, you

22:26

know, everybody thinks of nuclear like

22:29

Chernobyl and you know,

22:31

that the big, the, the

22:34

big cooling towers. You got to have all that, you

22:36

know, the lake and yeah, all that. So

22:39

you know, the newer technology, you have

22:43

pebble bed reactors that use these

22:45

balls that have a ceramic

22:48

coated pellets in them and you've replaced

22:50

them in the bottom. A lot

22:52

of these reactors have what they call

22:55

an inverse temperature coefficient, which

22:57

means as the reaction heats up,

23:00

it actually shuts it down. So

23:03

these reactors cannot melt down.

23:06

Physically cannot melt down. Those,

23:09

you typically find those reactors

23:11

at universities. There's reactors. I

23:14

mean, Oh, I

23:17

was going to say medical. Sure. Yeah.

23:21

But you know, what you do is you

23:23

get these small, these small

23:25

micro reactors and then

23:28

you can chain them together. So

23:30

it's a matter of how many do you

23:32

want to put in line together? And

23:36

a lot of these can be air

23:38

cooled, which takes

23:40

away the big threat of

23:43

meltdown, which is always a disruption of the cooling

23:45

water, which is, you

23:47

know, been the issue. Here's the thing though,

23:49

Mark, I listen, I appreciate all the, the

23:51

fact that there's technological advancement. Of course there

23:53

has been those old plans for 30, 40,

23:55

50 years old,

23:58

but it's the cycle. a logical

24:00

boogie man about, oh, I

24:03

don't want any nukes in my backyard. Well,

24:07

but is it that, but there are nukes in

24:09

their backyard. They just don't realize it. Uh-huh.

24:14

My issue is, are,

24:17

is the problem more lucrative

24:19

than a solution? Because

24:22

with, if you

24:24

have, we can incentivize,

24:26

you know,

24:28

the, the biggest problem reactors are

24:30

cheap. Nuclear reactors are exponentially cheaper

24:33

over time because

24:35

all of the cost

24:38

is into the development

24:40

and you don't have ongoing costs like

24:42

a coal plant where you have to

24:44

buy fuel every day. Um,

24:47

but if we streamline the regulatory

24:50

process, we can settle

24:52

on a few approved. Plants.

24:57

So here's, here's a proven plant. You're

24:59

approved to use these. And if

25:02

you use these, we'll streamline the permitting

25:04

process and we educate the

25:06

public that this system cannot melt down.

25:10

I think there's enough baby boomers now getting

25:12

to an age. I

25:14

mean, they're, you know, what

25:16

Gates is going to fire up three mile island again.

25:19

Yes. Um, you

25:21

know, it's, it's incredibly safe.

25:24

And the Sierra, the Sierra club

25:26

blessing it also giving an imperator

25:29

to it helps a

25:31

lot. I think, right. I

25:34

mean, I think what the Sierra

25:36

club sees is that

25:38

there's, you know, let's, I'm

25:40

an environmental scientist, not an environmentalist, they're two

25:43

different things. Okay. Is

25:45

the Sierra club like all nonprofits is in

25:48

the business for begging money. Right.

25:50

And don't think they're not. Okay. Of course.

25:53

So obviously they believe that

25:55

if they embrace nuclear and.

26:00

they may be able to get a lot

26:02

of money from these AI investors. I

26:04

mean, how many billions of dollars is going

26:06

into AI right now? Yeah, yeah. And I

26:08

think the Sierra Club wants their cut and

26:12

I think they see an opportunity to

26:14

cash in on this. Now I

26:16

think it's a great idea. And

26:20

maybe that will

26:23

turn, you know, if, if there's

26:25

enough professional begging

26:27

organizations that see that they're

26:30

there's more money in nuclear

26:32

than there is in fighting fossil fuels,

26:37

then we may get a change in

26:39

dynamic in the narrative. But

26:42

as long as quote unquote

26:45

non-nuclear free energy is going to get

26:47

more donations

26:51

than nuclear, that's not going to happen.

26:53

Well, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

26:56

it's the whole thing I was talking,

26:58

the whole thing I was talking about

27:00

the governor of California and he's trying

27:02

to push everybody into an energy energy

27:04

source that isn't ready for everybody

27:08

being on the energy source. This

27:11

sounds to me like it is the

27:14

answer by far. It

27:17

is the answer, Tom. It's said there's no

27:19

doubt, but I think what Newsom's

27:21

doing is branding. He's

27:24

setting himself up to be on boards, to

27:26

be on advisors of these groups. I

27:30

mean, he's, I think he's figured out he's not going to

27:32

be president. Um, you

27:34

know, it's kind of embarrassing if Kamala gets an

27:36

odd over here, let's face it. Um, you know,

27:40

and I think he's now figured out that

27:43

he's just got a brand. So

27:45

he's going to go full left wing, yeah,

27:50

everything. Sure. Because that's how he's monetized.

27:52

Once he gets, he's looking at how

27:54

is he going to monetize himself after

27:56

he gets out of office? Well, he's,

27:58

they've got, they got, problems also regarding

28:01

water, but because of the droughts and things

28:03

like that, that come along on the West

28:05

coast. But, but if he

28:07

can, if he can get things moving toward

28:09

getting rid of fossil fuels and along comes

28:11

nuke energy to save everybody

28:14

having enough energy, then he's going to look

28:16

like a hero. He could pull that

28:19

off. Nuclear

28:22

or not. I don't know

28:24

if he will or not. Yeah. But, but

28:26

you know, California, California

28:29

is like a company. Let's look

28:32

at meta, right? It

28:35

when they have unbelievable profit

28:37

margins, you get

28:39

a lot of knucklehead behavior and

28:42

a lot of fat and

28:44

pork and sure policies and

28:46

inefficiency. And that's

28:48

California. California is so rich

28:52

in natural resources,

28:54

harbors, educational institutions.

28:56

I mean, everything California is

28:59

that company with a 400%

29:01

profit margin. And

29:05

because of that, they're able to get away

29:07

with knucklehead behavior. Yeah. Yeah. And

29:09

they, they impose on everybody else that

29:11

is operating in a 15%. I'm

29:15

sorry. Tim Waltz is on the line. He

29:17

said he's already, uh, that

29:19

knucklehead belongs to him and cannot be used

29:21

by other sources. It's already

29:24

claimed that for his own. Hey

29:27

Mark, I got to run. Yeah, I

29:31

got her on, but I love, I love

29:33

the, the information that you have. It's very

29:35

valuable. And I think you're right

29:38

on about these mini nukes that are

29:40

going to be coming phone numbers,

29:42

eight, five, five, two, nine, five, six,

29:45

D 600. Hey, hi

29:47

Tom. Listen to almost 20

29:49

years and have never once called or

29:51

emailed you. Well, what took

29:53

you so long? Your way. Tom

29:55

Sullen inflation vacation

29:58

on KFPK is powered by. Maybe

32:00

you have a dollar cheaper in that case and

32:02

so I mean the average price here

32:04

in Reno is about 450 a

32:08

gallon and so Your

32:10

other caller marks that was just on us. She

32:12

had a great, you know Idea

32:15

with at least many new nuclear plants

32:18

and I mean if the American people are so

32:20

scared of it Look

32:22

at the clear submarines parked outside

32:24

of major US cities. Yeah, there

32:26

are many reactors, you know In

32:28

many cities and they've been

32:31

they the Navy's been using nuke

32:33

Reactors in there's in their subs and

32:36

their ships for decades decades

32:40

without problems and That's

32:42

my point. I mean even out here in Reno on

32:44

the 80 I 80 corridor We

32:47

have a huge Apple that Apple

32:49

data center plant That

32:52

if you look at the hillside, you'll see You

32:57

Know giant hills of just Solar,

33:01

you know, it's a solar field essentially,

33:03

you know and but these the supplement

33:06

power from But

33:09

you know just northern Nevada and the Reno

33:11

grid it's but but the Sierra Club even

33:13

came out and said it's not enough The

33:17

alternative energy sources are

33:19

not enough Sierra Club so in

33:21

other words is that's not gonna that's not

33:23

gonna work. So what else you got? It's

33:26

basically what they're asking and

33:28

that's why I think the new thing sounds great

33:32

and absolutely, and like the whole not in

33:34

my backyard scenario is Kind of

33:36

is kind of a point because exactly

33:38

what what happens when you have these

33:40

aircraft carriers or nuclear submarines that park

33:42

into San Francisco or San Diego or

33:44

Los Angeles, you know if

33:48

If it's such a concern, you know, it's one

33:50

of the cleanest Forms

33:52

of energy that we have that isn't

33:54

renewable unfortunately But you know, you can't

33:57

pump all your money into solar fields