On the penultimate episode of the podcast, I chat with Nicholas Molbert (Altars of Spine and Fraction) about Tommye Blount's poem "Icarus Does the Dishes." We discuss caretaking, the mythic and mundane, and an incredible ending. After that, Nick shares his poem "Cup Licking." Then I put him through the paces of an impossible game. This episode is brought to you by no hat and all cattle.

Also mentioned:

• Poet Jess Williard (Unmanly Grief)
• Marjoree Little's "Why We Chose It" for the Kenyon Review about "Icarus"
• W. H. Auden, "Musee des Beaux Arts"