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Hello and welcome to another edition of

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the KEXP Runcast. I'm John Richards, host

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of it, host of The Morning Show

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as well at KEXP. Had a

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lot of guests recently, but today it's just

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you and me and some really dreamy music

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to get started. This is

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John Hopkins' ritual palace track. I love this so

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much. You could have put this on the Alex

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Runcast from earlier. If you like this, go back

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and listen to that one. I

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also want to read this as you start running

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or as you continue your run. It comes from

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Ann Patchett. Running, the music

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flew into him, became the wind

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that pushed back his hair and the

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slap of his own feet on

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the pavement. Whoever you might

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be, however you're running, that slap of your

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own feet on the pavement. Good

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luck out there. Let's get going. Color

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wheel behind your eyes,

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spinning out, only to

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burn the tide Resting

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mirrors on the floor,

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real life moving across

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your face and mind

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The storm

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had never

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been once

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more in

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your arms Stay close, colorless

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stars Hold

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me up, drink the

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words and let go

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The storm had never been once more in your arms Spend

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a still and I'm

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making plays In

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your arms, drying

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up in the

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sun Edges

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are left to burn I'm

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here now This

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dream Fallin'

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on the line Why

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has no foot get a touch

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And for the long run

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Our hearts They

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don't push over the line We'll

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be up beneath the sun How

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we rise Hold it

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to fade away In

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this dream Till

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last the night

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We'll be up beneath the

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sun How we rise Hold

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it to fade away In

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this dream Till last the

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night It's

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where you will find me

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No scar

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Handy What's

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more In

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your home Stay

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close Have a star

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All we are Dreaming

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In the dark In

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the dark In

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the dark Was

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a youth that I saw from

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the silence Saw

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the suns I was blind to darling Where

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are you hiding? Raising

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my plan again Where

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have you hiding? Raising

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my plan again Raising

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my plan again Where

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have I been? Where

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have I

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been? Raising

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my flag

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again Where

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have I been?

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Raising my flag

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again Where

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have I been? Where

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have I

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been? Raising

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my flag

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again Where

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have I been? Raising

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my flag again Suddenly

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let our waters collide Hitting

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me in the eye, we're soaking

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white in the eye What

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can you share to keep

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my hands cold? Something

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so bright and blessed that I'm

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all that crushed Love I'm

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in love, weak in

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your love I'm

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not getting the world's

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love, not so right

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We need the money, leaving

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all the drugs I

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can feel myself coming up

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Just to remind you,

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I'm in love, weak

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in your love I'm

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not getting the world's

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love, not so

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right When

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I'm in love,

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weak in your

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love I'm

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not getting the world's love,

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not so right When

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I'm in love, weak in

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your love I'm

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not getting the world's love,

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weak in your love All

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right, a little remix of

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national language there. Here on the KXP Runcast,

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Liz wrote me a really nice message. You

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can hit me, runcast, at kexp.org. So I've

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been listening for a couple of seasons now.

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I look forward to it. I love the

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one with Greg from film school. I did

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a run along the Northern Brookshires in Massachusetts

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yesterday. Thanks for the picture. That looks awesome.

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I also often return to the Be an

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Ally and Overtaking Your Shadow episodes. I've listened

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to them a lot as I recover from

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a hip injury. Doing a 10-mile run, I've signed

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up for a half as well. I love and

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appreciate the Runcast. It's truly been life-saving

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for me to hear you say you're not alone at

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a time when I really needed to hear it. Thank

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you. If you're struggling through a run through

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addiction or depression or grief, you're

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not alone. I agree, Liz.

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And I know you're out there dealing with that, and

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running is a way that you deal with that. So

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let's keep dealing with that and dealing with this run. Here's

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Gary and the moth. Heaven

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is in your eyes Guided by angels in disguise You

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would be wins over my world You could be my universe I'm

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a spider in the fire I have to fill it in Does

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it keep my dreams

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sad or you're

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leaving me alone? You could be my

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universe You could be my universe You

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could be my universe You could be my universe

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You could be my universe You could be my

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universe I

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knew I'd been so victim, I

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was a bit assured I

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walked out in silence, I

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shut back door Didn't

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know what to tell you, I

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didn't know how I

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wanted to know you, but you never

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can't grow Can't

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feel it, till

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you got my hope I'd

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be so mean, I would

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let me on the turn

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I'd let go of my mind,

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and I wouldn't start a fight

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In love and fear She

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comes and she pleases, doesn't think

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about it twice

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Walks with her demons

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in the dark paradise

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Still going, I shouldn't, couldn't make it

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away I wanna be

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better, better, better, better, better,

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better Can't

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feel it, till you got my hope I'd be so

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mean, I wouldn't start a fight I'd

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be so mean, I wouldn't start a

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fight I'd be better,

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better, better, better Can't

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feel it, till I lose control I'd

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be so mean, I wouldn't start

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a fight No,

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let, let go If

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I hated to take sleep And

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if I hated to call you

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Haven't quite figured that

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out yet What's

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the truth? There's

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nothing in the world It's

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all just fall asleep with your eyes

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Can't you feel? Can

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you feel my heart pound? Does

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it matter? I know you

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run Triple

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seven When

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you're coming to the sky And

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now waking up In the dark I

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feel like it's burning inside I

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feel like it's

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twisted around the trees

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It's twisted around

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the trees I

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keep fear far

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away It

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tries to

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escape before it

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comes and goes

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and says I'm

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real, I'm done

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with grows and

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knows and knows and

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says I'm

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real, I try

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to face what fades

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away I

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feel like it's

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burning inside I

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feel like it

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loses its hold on me

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I get

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up, I'm

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away And

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now I lost the words

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I say before it comes

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and goes and says I'm

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real, time and grows and knows

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and knows and says I'm

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real, I try to face what fades away

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I'm real, time and knows and says All

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right, a little

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bit of a shoegazey set there. I love

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it. Gift, wishy and dery. Those are

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all names of shoegaze, man. I love

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it on this runcast and I love it on my morning

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show as well. I don't know. I ran

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across this quote and maybe this will reach a

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few of you who are running just to

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have your own time. I always find

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running is my time. It's your time

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right now, right? Don Roff said, if

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you schlep a shit job every day,

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keep and feed a little secret life,

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whether it's writing, art, running,

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music, your thoughts,

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it's yours. I love

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that. This is yours. Running is yours.

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yours. Keep moving. Spildo,

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g Rise Yes,

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yes, yes Quel

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ese, quel ese, quole quarro

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We should all be with

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you Dejol, lo, lo, lo

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We should all be with you Dejol,

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lo, lo, lo

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We should all be with you

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We should all be

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with you In

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this shining land The

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moon is rising up

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in the wind Shining under

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the stairs Wide

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evening's gone The

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hums of the blue But

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from the land Starts from

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silver off its fall I

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had an open heart I'm

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a I believe I

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was moved to God, yeah

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Instead I let him break

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a bond See

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the desert flow Cross

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this fairy ring That's

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part of the fire like the clock

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you hold in your hand What

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happened to the honesty

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way? Is

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the core of truth? Can

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you swallow what you chew? All

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is tragedy Yeah,

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we don't have the grace We

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let them wash away Without

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sharing no friends My

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spirit's bound And

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it's time to be changed Take

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your fire, crash it like a

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paper plane in the rain What

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happened to the honesty

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way? Is

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the core of truth? Can

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you swallow what you chew? What

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happened to the honesty way?

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Father, Father, I've been to

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it too The

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man out of town I see

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your son Father,

35:51

Father, I've been to it

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too Every day

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I'm missing what happened Into

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the honesty, away

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Is that core action? Can

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you swallow what you choose? Father,

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Father, did you achieve? The

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minute time I see you soon Father,

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Father, did you achieve? Somewhere

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up there, singing

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the blues Never

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ever to A

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feeling is to sign your lines

36:54

Between you and I, they pull

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like the tide I got it

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Got it Feel

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this design your lines They

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pull like the tide Between

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you and I, I want

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it Want

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it I'll

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take you down where you wanna go

37:25

Wanna feel the core light up

37:27

the darkest floor Gotta

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feel it all down where you

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wanna go Where you wanna

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flow Cause

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I wanna feel

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the love you've

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got Love

37:46

you God Love

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you God Love

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you God Love

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you God Love

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you God When

38:15

things kill you for

38:18

real When

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things kill you

38:33

for real Feel

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these design lines between

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you and I They

38:53

pull like the tide, I got it

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Got it

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Feel these design lines

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They pull like the

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tide between you and

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I I want it Want

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it Love

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you God Love

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you God Love

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you God You're

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God Be

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around tonight Be

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around tonight Be

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around tonight

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Be around tonight

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I

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think you're euphoria

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Love you God

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Alright, this is John Richards, little Kelly Lee

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Owens there. Love you God, the name of

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that. And I'll be back in just a

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minute. Alright, got another quote

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really quick. Ryan dropped a note.

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I got my first pair of wireless earbuds because

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of you. I've always run with just

41:23

my thoughts, but now I'm doing longer runs as I

41:26

prep for a half. And my personal thoughts get

41:28

pretty boring after about 30 minutes. I

41:30

love that. I ran 11 miles on

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Sunday, listened to all the shoegaze episode.

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I love it. You asked Greg

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why he runs. And I asked myself the same question.

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I've run since high school. I'm now 49. I

41:41

don't think I've ever run as much as I have this year. I've been living

41:44

with incurable blood cancer for 15

41:46

years. And I think

41:48

that has helped me to be grateful for whatever

41:50

strength and health I have. I think

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I run because I can. And I know

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there are plenty out there who can't. Running

41:56

gives me a sense of gratitude and

41:59

gets me out. Into the world.

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Thank you so much. That is

42:03

amazing Ryan. Let's keep running for

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Ryan right now. You're on the runcast Now

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we're after

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you. Feeling it.

42:38

We used to believe.

42:42

It's the sea

42:45

and the

42:49

jet. I'm cutting

42:51

this pain too.

42:57

You're on it. I

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feel like I

43:30

had a deal

43:44

I can't get a

43:46

deal I

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do understand The

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The lights clear the night

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I'll rise for you

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Through your head We

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used to drift It's

44:24

the sea of truth The

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color is kinda too Watching

44:35

the glitters Say

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I heard you look The

44:57

light is clear I

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feel like I can't do I

45:23

can't get out of here I

45:27

don't want this right

45:30

out The

45:34

lights clear the

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night I

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feel like I can't do I

45:47

can't get out of here I

45:52

don't want this right out The

45:56

light is clear the

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night Familia,

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esta pueda

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que esta

47:06

arguendo, más le lo que me gustaría Me

47:17

pasado toda la noche,

47:20

buscando en interdre Un

47:23

despino, donde a la

47:25

sombra sester Quindena da cirbio,

47:28

colocar, la más a tener

47:30

valcón Siga

47:33

fiento, chocalor, defirir

47:35

Sifarre fédia, vam

47:38

dódara mi familia

47:41

Esta pueda que esta arguendo, más

47:44

le lo que me gustar Defirir

47:47

sifarre fédia,

47:50

vam dódara

47:52

mi familia

47:54

Esta pueda

47:57

que esta arguendo, más le lo que me gustaría Hey!

48:16

Dead TV There's

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a party again Dead

48:22

TV There's

48:24

a party again Dead

48:27

TV There's

48:29

a party again Dead

48:31

TV There's a

48:33

party again Na-na-na

48:41

Na-na-na Na-na-na

49:02

Na-na-na Na-na-na Na-na-na

49:09

Na-na-na Se

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plugged Na-na-na

49:15

Na-na Na-na-na

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Na-na-na Na-na I

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am so easily observed Things

49:28

that haven't happened yet I

49:33

guess I have a heart of

49:35

glass I

49:40

thought I could have blown a path

49:46

The feeling might get sink or swim

49:51

When all the walls are closing in I

49:57

was right where I was wrong I'm

50:02

just trying to hold on

50:07

Do you exactly what

50:09

we are going away?

50:13

Do you exactly what

50:15

we are going away?

50:30

Feels like I'm stuck in second

50:32

gear And

50:37

it's the same thing

50:39

every year It's

50:43

getting harder to

50:45

pretend That

50:48

I'm not in over my head We're

50:54

just tapping

50:56

but we're

50:58

going away We're

51:26

just tapping

51:30

but we're going away

51:33

We're just tapping but

51:35

we're going away We're

51:54

just tapping but

51:56

we're going away

52:00

I don't know

52:03

where you are I don't know where

52:05

you are I

52:12

don't know where you

52:14

are Ever

52:19

since we started going out

52:21

again I

52:23

could swear my mouth's

52:25

been dry Cause

52:29

every little wee that I've been

52:31

working on Is

52:34

not impossible to hide

52:39

And I'm crying when I least

52:41

expect it Hiding in a home

52:44

by section Try to keep my

52:46

head from falling on Even

52:49

sex has been a source

52:51

of tension Struggling with my

52:54

own redemption Running

52:56

in an antiseptic wash

53:01

Could you tell me

53:03

what it feels like

53:05

to be happier The

53:08

crowd again Used

53:12

to find it all so easy No

53:16

more crashing after

53:18

anything Ever

53:23

since we started going

53:25

out again I've been

53:28

overthinking The

53:33

internet exactly

53:35

breaks the straight of me And

53:39

still my screen time's

53:42

rising And I am

53:45

still waiting for you

53:50

And I am sleeping in when

53:52

I should get up Who said

53:54

thirty-two's holding up To

53:56

know what you are and what you

53:58

want It

54:01

sends me worse to think I'm

54:03

good until three kids find out

54:05

When I'm still forgetting books when

54:07

I go through the picture Could

54:13

you tell me what

54:15

it feels like to

54:17

be happy? I

54:20

cried again I

54:24

used to find it

54:26

all so easy now

54:28

I'm crashing after

54:31

anything Who

54:39

am I

54:42

sitting or do I

54:44

just need to get used to this? I

54:47

feel sick How

54:50

could anybody get used to this? So

54:54

scared of losing all again Think

54:56

I'll hide away a bit longer

55:02

Could you tell me what it

55:05

feels like to be happy? I

55:10

cried again I

55:13

used to find it all so easy

55:17

now I'm crashing

55:19

after anything I'm

55:22

crashing after

55:25

anything But you know I'm

55:29

crashing after

55:31

anything I'm

55:33

crashing The

55:37

runcast with Pet

55:39

Snake Crashing,

55:42

gotta love that song I

55:45

wanna throw this one in too before we end I'm gonna chill out a

55:47

little bit at the ending for the runcast Jessica Park wrote pain.

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I appreciate you running through whatever pain you're

56:02

going through. Maybe you're running through some real

56:04

happiness as well. I've run through both. Running

56:07

is yours. Remember that. Let's

56:09

chill out here at the end. A

56:11

song called Time Wasted Worrying from Hachuku.

56:15

Don't waste time worrying. Just keep running. It's

56:17

a KXB run cast. You are not alone.

56:31

It's not like I

56:33

want these feelings to

56:35

stay. But I also

56:37

don't know how to

56:39

make them go

56:41

away. There's

57:00

here a reason. And I don't

57:02

feel any to tell you

57:07

all. I

57:26

don't know how far

57:28

to feel my demons.

57:31

Just let me wallow

57:33

in my pain

57:35

somewhat. One

57:40

day I will get to

57:42

know myself well. I'm

57:47

to liberate

57:50

my thoughts from

57:52

this open post.

58:30

Don't tell you

58:32

all I

58:34

don't know what's wrong

58:37

with my demons Just

58:42

say one word and

58:44

I'll pass up more I'll enjoy

58:46

my misery I

59:01

was anyone else, I could have

59:04

dealt with Pick up my

59:06

self out and respect the way All

59:08

I take is love for the steps

59:10

Discover your own mercy Truths from a

59:12

far-right good day You know

59:14

the way to show This is

59:17

not getting any worse I'm

59:19

the only one you want Don't

59:23

take me seriously Just

59:26

say a reason And

59:29

I don't feel the need

59:32

to tell you all I don't

59:34

know what's wrong

59:37

with my demons Just

59:40

say one word and I'll

59:43

pass up more I'll

59:46

enjoy my misery And

59:49

I never hurt And

59:52

I don't know how to

59:58

Truths from a far-right good day