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Joe Rogan podcast, check it out! The

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Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day,

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Joe Rogan podcast

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by night, all day! Alright, we're

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out. You taking

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a selfie? No, I'm

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just making sure that there's nothing completely retarded looking about

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myself right now. What could possibly be different than the way when

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you walked in here? I

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have no idea, dude. I'll tell you what,

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it's so much fun walking in here and not be ready to

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think about it. The first time

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I walked out of here and I went, holy shit, I was

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actually nervous. I don't get nervous,

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but the first time I was. I'm

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not nervous now, though. Good.

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Beautiful. Perfect. It's good

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to see you again. Good to see you. Every time

0:42

I see him, I'm like, I'm glad he's still alive.

0:44

It's like, where you live is so crazy. Let me

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tell you, man. I don't understand why you continue to

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do it, but I guess you love it. I

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have to do it. Nothing else I can do

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at this point. How long do you think you're going to stay out

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there for? Until the mission's complete. My

1:00

whole life has been based around one goal.

1:02

It's been protecting this river. This

1:05

year, we've just

1:07

been experiencing miracles. What's

1:09

happened in the last few months has been life-changing

1:13

on a level that I didn't understand

1:15

these things could happen. When

1:18

Lex came down and everything that happened, you go

1:20

out and you don't think that miraculous things are

1:22

going to happen. We've

1:27

actually been making strides towards notching winds

1:29

in protecting this river, saving the Amazon.

1:33

It's wild. So, you've become

1:35

more high profile, you've got

1:38

more support. What has been

1:40

the change? Well, coming

1:42

on here helped a lot. First

1:44

of all, just coming over here, three different people

1:46

stopped me in the airport. Are you that guy

1:48

from Joe Rogan? Are you serious? I'm

1:51

not used to this. I live

1:53

in the jungle, so I don't know. Then I come back here. Then

1:56

people are like, dude, I know you. You're the jungle guy. I'm like,

1:58

oh, shit. That's new

2:00

for me. So

2:03

really the thing that happened recently was that, so

2:06

I went on Lex's show a year and

2:08

a half ago and he said, I'm going to come

2:10

down to the Amazon, which everybody says. You went on

2:12

Lex's show, but Lex actually went on your show. You

2:15

can say that. He did it in

2:17

the Amazon. And to see Lex with

2:19

his suit, his customary suit on, how

2:22

hot was it? It was hot. If

2:24

you watch that carefully, you can see him. Yeah,

2:26

he looks glistening. I was doing fine, but we

2:28

both covered ourselves in bug spray and we sat

2:31

down and we said, okay, we're just going to

2:33

try it out. And if it doesn't work, it

2:35

doesn't work. It's fine. But yeah,

2:37

he came, like when he said he was coming down, I

2:39

was like, yeah, you and everybody else, everybody says they're going

2:41

to come down. I didn't think he would actually do it.

2:43

And then how long is the flight? It's

2:47

not long to get to Lima from New York is eight

2:49

hours. So from here, it's even shorter. I'm sure. Wow.

2:52

Yeah, it's really not bad. And he came down for two weeks.

2:54

The first day that he was, I was

2:56

like, I want to show you the start of the

2:59

end of the Amazon rainforest. It starts in the Andes

3:01

Mountains or in the western edge of the Amazon rainforest.

3:03

And so you have these glacial peaks up at 17,000

3:05

feet. So I was like, Lex,

3:07

I want to take you up to 17,000 feet. I

3:10

want to go from source to river. And

3:12

so his first day, he arrived and then

3:14

we drove five hours, got to the base

3:16

of this mountain. Then we

3:18

met up with these dudes that are experts and they

3:20

brought us up to the glacier where we can't

3:22

breathe. Wow. Yeah, it was

3:24

it was you driving on roads where

3:27

where the the cliff

3:29

goes down a thousand feet. Yeah, and I'll call

3:31

that. I've seen those roads that and and I

3:33

was I opened the car door to

3:35

try and goof around with Lex to be like, Oh,

3:37

I'm with Lex Reamer right now in the thing. And

3:39

I look over and I see the wheel go over

3:41

the fucking edge and skid back on. Oh,

3:44

it happens all the time. So,

3:47

yeah, we got out. We we we walked. We

3:49

let the car. I was like, look, the car

3:51

drive. And then what we did was we took a rock and I was like, yo,

3:53

Lex. I was like, this would be us if the

3:55

car flipped and we threw a rock over the edge and this

3:57

big rock was just spinning like this. And I was like, man,

3:59

we would be chopped. meet by the bottom. So

4:02

we got up to 70,000 feet, we saw

4:04

the glacier. And whenever you bring somebody to

4:06

the jungle, the thing is, you don't know, some

4:09

people take to it, some people don't. Some people

4:11

get to the jungle and their skin doesn't react

4:13

well to the bug bites, they're overwhelmed by the

4:16

fact that they're far from everything. Lex's

4:18

eyes lit up. I didn't know he had

4:20

that setting. He walked into the jungle and

4:22

was like, I like this.

4:25

He got this grin on his face. Lex

4:28

is a secret savage. Yeah. Look at his

4:30

face. He wasn't fucking around. Yeah, he could

4:32

live out there. Yeah. And if you notice,

4:34

he came to the Amazon and he looked

4:36

like Lex in his profile picture.

4:38

And when he left the Amazon,

4:41

he looked totally different. And

4:44

that process is what happened.

4:46

He said, I'm coming down. He's like, I want to

4:48

do what you guys do. I want to go on

4:50

a deep expedition. And so me

4:52

and JJ, who's the guy I work with down there,

4:54

the local indigenous Essayah native, who is

4:57

the reason that I do the work I do, I

4:59

support his work. And so we

5:01

said, okay, what are we going to do? Let's

5:03

find the wildest place we can think of. Let's let's

5:05

go way up our river. So we're ready like to

5:08

if you take a boat from town, it's two days

5:10

deep into the jungle to get there by river. We

5:13

said, let's go five more hours upriver, leave

5:16

the boat, and then we're going to go from our

5:18

river up to this other tributary. And it's like

5:20

20 miles, 20 miles, right? Fuck, it'll be fine. We got our backpacks,

5:24

machetes, we get off the boat. And

5:27

Lex is all good to go. The

5:29

first five minutes were out there. JJ machetes

5:32

a branch that has wasps. Oh, God, his

5:34

whole head and neck gets surrounded by wasps.

5:37

He gets 30 stings on runs. And so

5:39

right away, we're like, Oh, God, here we

5:41

go. We had to use a stick

5:43

to get his hat out from under where the wasps

5:45

were attacking. We hike all day. And

5:47

here's the thing. You think

5:50

it's the rainforest, there's going to be water everywhere.

5:52

There's no water. So picture being in the sauna

5:55

for eight hours straight, and then no

5:57

re up on water. We drank all of our water thinking find

6:00

a stream. We didn't find a stream. We

6:02

camped that night, dry camp, nothing,

6:04

fell asleep, woke up, we got

6:06

to find water. And at

6:09

this point Lex is- How do you find water?

6:11

Well, I mean, there should just be streams, right?

6:13

This section- Were there that you just didn't run

6:15

into or it's like- It was a weird section

6:17

of forest and this is integral to the whole

6:19

story was that this part of

6:21

the forest, unlike where we are, which is very, very

6:24

flat and there's all these little streams, they're clear, this

6:26

came in an anaconda in them, but they're clear. And

6:28

the jungle works like the roots work like a

6:31

huge filtering system. So you can drink that

6:33

water right out of the streams where

6:35

we were, it was up and down, up and down, up

6:37

and down. And so that's why we're sweating all day. We

6:39

can't, we didn't have water. We start going the next day,

6:42

no water. And Lex

6:45

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keep doing this. We're slipping and sliding down

7:26

slopes. We're hiking up slopes and just grabbing

7:28

onto things. And when you grab onto trees

7:30

in the Amazon, they have spikes on

7:32

them. You're worried about stepping on

7:34

venomous snakes. You're worried about twisting an ankle. It

7:36

was brutal travel, like level 10 hiking. And

7:39

JJ made eye contact with me behind

7:41

him and he was just going, this

7:44

is not good. And

7:46

so I think it was day three, we're going

7:48

and we're in such- Did you go

7:51

a whole day without water at all? We went with

7:53

a whole day with no water whatsoever. And what's the

7:55

temperature? 99 degrees, full humidity.

7:58

Oh my God. like

8:00

full dehydration, probably a

8:02

little delirious. Completely delirious. And so we're- Body's not

8:04

working well. And you start making errors, right? You

8:06

start taking bad steps because you're tired. So you

8:08

go, I'll just step on this thing. And so

8:10

you step on a route that goes down, you

8:12

slide, you hit the ground, you

8:14

get tangled up in vines. We had pack rafts,

8:17

this is company called Pack of rafts. We had

8:19

paddles sticking out of our backpacks that kept getting

8:21

stuck on vines. And

8:23

what happened though was as we're going through

8:25

this forest, we're going, God, this is so

8:27

incredibly dense. And I see this

8:29

tree, this huge tree, the size of this room. And

8:32

I go, JJ, what tree is that? And he

8:35

smiles at me, teach it to student. And

8:37

he goes, you know why you don't know what that

8:39

is? He goes, you've never seen a mature mahogany tree

8:41

because the loggers down there, they took them all out.

8:44

This forest has never been cut.

8:46

Millions of years, the Amazon rainforest

8:48

forming geologically has never been cut.

8:52

And so we're going through this forest. We

8:54

see jaguar tracks, ancient mahogany trees. We're

8:56

seeing ironwood trees. No one's been there. There's not

8:58

even signs of uncontacted tribes. This is forest that

9:00

no one's been through. And so right

9:02

at the time, I remember we stopped for lunch. We

9:05

stopped to eat the last food we have. And

9:07

the problem that we were doing was at a

9:10

compass and we were getting to the

9:12

top of these hills. And you know when

9:14

you look on the ocean floor and the

9:16

sand makes like those geometric ripples and there's

9:18

like, there's a pattern to it. And

9:21

so we were coming to the top of a ridge line and we

9:23

were like, we don't want to go down again. And

9:25

we don't want to hike up again. So we're staying on the ridge

9:27

lines. And what that was doing was taking us a

9:29

30 degree tick to the, I

9:32

think it was to the west. But what

9:34

that was doing though was taking us about another 20

9:36

miles off course. So we had to hit the river

9:38

here, but we were going to hit over there. So

9:41

we had to correct for course, we stopped. We're eating the

9:44

last of the food we have. We drank water out of

9:46

a puddle. I have a video

9:48

and we're going to release all this. Do

9:50

you have a filtration system? We went with

9:52

nothing. We had our tents and armisteads. Jesus

9:54

Christ. And I have a video of Lex

9:56

and he's looking at this puddle. How do

9:58

you bring a Stary pen or something? Uh, cause

10:00

I do everything with the local guys and they were just like,

10:02

Oh, it'll be fine. There'll be water. And we

10:05

just, we didn't anticipate this happening. And

10:08

I, I, Lex was crouched by this

10:10

wall by this puddle with his backpack on and he's like

10:12

looking at the water and he looks at me and he

10:14

goes, I'm going to drink it. And I said,

10:16

do not drink that. I was like, please don't fucking

10:18

drink that. And he goes, I'm going

10:20

to drink it. He goes, I don't care about anything else

10:22

on earth right now except for water. And

10:24

I was like, please don't drink it. Jardee is no

10:27

joke. Nope. Stop for lunch. Did

10:30

he drink it? He did not drink it. Wow. No,

10:33

he, you know, I mean we didn't want to, cause

10:35

now we're going, if we get sick, we have no

10:37

sat phone, no communication in the outside world. We're at

10:39

least 30 miles from the nearest river, let alone help.

10:41

That's a hundred miles away deep in

10:43

the Amazon and the feeling

10:46

of deep jungle, that feeling of wilderness. I know

10:48

like, you know, when you're like elk hunting, I'm

10:50

sure you know this when you're out there and

10:52

you get that feeling like this is, this

10:54

is out there. Yeah. Uncaring.

10:57

Uncaring. And then we start like the ocean where

10:59

it's like, it doesn't matter. It's almost like lonely.

11:01

It's very lonely. Even when you're with people. It

11:03

starts to press on you. We started getting quiet.

11:05

Like we weren't having like an awesome time. We were, we

11:08

were feeling it. And so we ate like some nuts

11:10

and we had nothing to wash it down with. So

11:12

we're just chewing on it and we got up and

11:15

then we took a few steps and all of a sudden everything

11:19

changed. We came out onto a road and

11:21

it's a logging road and

11:24

JJ's face fell. I was heartbroken.

11:27

Lex, Lex looked confused.

11:29

What we realized was in this ancient patch of

11:31

forest, the progression of the

11:34

metastasizing destruction that's moving through the Amazon

11:36

forest comes in roads. This

11:38

road, somebody had just cut a road and they hadn't

11:41

cut the ancient mahogany trees and they hadn't cut the

11:43

ironwood trees and the wildlife was untouched, but there's a

11:46

road. So they're coming. We

11:48

used the road. We hiked, we hiked out. We

11:50

reached water and there's, this

11:52

is amazing when we reached water because we

11:54

just plunged into this river. We were

11:56

drinking. We did have some iodine tablets. We put that in our

11:59

water bottles. as much as we wanted to.

12:02

And then we had to raft for an entire day back

12:04

to the place where we got picked up. But what

12:07

happened was that now we know, and

12:09

this is on our river, this is where we're trying

12:11

to create this corridor with Jungle Keepers, now we know

12:13

that some of the most ancient forest

12:15

on earth is about to be

12:17

destroyed. And we get back

12:19

to our base, to our research station, and it

12:22

just so happens that there was a client there

12:24

and he was staying in the that treehouse, the

12:26

Alta Sanctuary Treehouse, and we tell

12:28

him this whole story and we're drinking and we're eating

12:30

and we're you know we're all sunburnt and bug-bitten and

12:33

dehydrated and our cheeks are you know stuck to our

12:35

skulls. And we tell him this whole

12:37

story and we go it's gonna be

12:39

brutal watching this you know dismantled.

12:42

And he goes well I want to help. He goes find

12:45

out how we get that land. And

12:47

it hadn't really occurred to me that we could do

12:49

anything about it. And this

12:51

dude, this guy's name is Jay, and he said he

12:54

goes I'll start you off. He goes whatever

12:56

the land costs I'll give you 150 grand.

12:59

Do a fundraiser, put it public, and

13:01

try and get matching donations and talk to

13:03

the loggers. So while we set up the

13:06

fundraiser, JJ, local, called up his

13:08

friends who happened to own that land. His

13:10

friends don't want the land. They're contracting it to loggers

13:12

to get the trees out to make some money so

13:14

they could just sell it off. We

13:17

put it up on Instagram. We raised

13:19

$150,000 in 48 hours, talked to the loggers, bought the land, and

13:25

then the craziest part is that when

13:28

we went there, we physically, with all the directors of

13:30

Drone Keepers, we went to the land and the Peruvians,

13:32

the Peruvian director sat down with the loggers and they're

13:34

like look we own this land now. It's

13:36

for conservation. We're gonna save this forest. And

13:39

the loggers went that's fine but can we

13:41

still work here? And we went what? And

13:44

they said we do this because we love it. And

13:46

we went what? They said yeah can we just be Rangers?

13:48

Like we see you have Rangers. Can we be Rangers? And we were like

13:50

yeah you can be Rangers. Yeah

13:52

you can be Rangers. These dudes are

13:54

over here destroying the thing they love because they have

13:56

no other opportunity. So the fact that

13:58

this is that God,

22:00

but I don't know that's okay of an apple cuz

22:02

apples like you want to eat this click on that

22:05

how to wash Remove a

22:07

peel coating vegetable coating. Let's see if we

22:09

can watch a video. We'll show us how

22:11

to do it Let's

22:16

go with the first one that lady she's so

22:18

she's peeling it. Yeah Why

22:21

do you peel produce but isn't a lot of

22:24

the nutrients in the slide wax and peel So

22:27

this is different though. This is wax This

22:30

is that's carton uber wax.

22:32

It's like normal, but appeal is a

22:34

new product And it's

22:36

one of those. Yeah. Okay. Let's see what this lady

22:38

has to talk. Let's talk about appeal I

22:40

don't like her earrings Let's listen to

22:42

her and reduce the use of plastic This

22:45

compound uses plant material to

22:48

make monoglycerides and diglycerides aka

22:50

fats a fat coating on

22:52

fruits and vegetables the intent

22:55

less plastic amazing longer

22:58

shelf life fabulous Human

23:01

cost but human are

23:04

extracted from plants using

23:06

ethyl acetate and heptane Ooh

23:09

in the chemical process to make these

23:11

fats they add ingredients that contain heavy

23:13

metals. Oh great Not

23:15

all fats that come from plants are safe

23:17

for human consumption Generally speaking

23:19

olive oil comes from plants and it's

23:21

healthy Canola oil wrap

23:24

seed oil cotton seed oil are

23:26

fats that come from plants, but not healthy. They

23:28

cause a lot of inflammation It

23:30

all depends on how the fats were

23:33

extracted and how the chemical compound was

23:35

created And this time

23:37

there's no human trials to show what happens

23:39

to humans who consume fruits and vegetables with

23:42

a peel on them On a regular basis.

23:44

Oh great Yeah, why

23:46

would there be human trials on something that people eat and

23:49

it's all over supermarkets But there's a lot of stuff coming

23:51

out right now about the safety of our food. Oh, yeah

23:54

I keep hearing about this. It keeps coming

23:56

up. Yeah. Well, there was a big hearing

23:58

from the Senate that Brigham Bueller What

34:00

the fuck are you doing? Yeah,

34:02

my thing is the worst thing that I've done

34:04

recently is I didn't have, you know, I start

34:06

doing activities without my phone on me. And

34:09

I went for a run and I saw something cool.

34:11

And I was like, oh, I need to take a picture of that. And I was

34:13

like, how? Just the

34:16

idea that I couldn't take a picture of something

34:19

had become something that I forgot about. I

34:21

take a picture of everything. I probably take 400 pictures a

34:23

day. I'm like, I like that logo. Bang. I like that

34:25

street. Bang. It's cool to be

34:28

able to do it. But now

34:30

we're also inundated with images all

34:33

over the world. And a lot of

34:35

them are horrific events, which is

34:37

the things that people are trying to capture the

34:39

most. So it's like every day,

34:41

like what's going on today?

34:43

Like there's right now Iran is bombing

34:46

Israel. So there's

34:48

missiles. Do you know about this? Nope. It's

34:50

fucking terrifying, dude. It's on like Donkey

34:52

Kong right now. See if you can

34:54

get some of the footage. Iran is

34:56

launching hundreds of missiles at

34:58

Israel. And there was a mass shooting, some

35:01

sort of a terror attack in Tel Aviv

35:03

today as well. So

35:05

there's some sort of coordinated attack on Israel.

35:08

Obviously, Israel just did

35:10

that stuff with Hezbollah, where they blew

35:13

up the pagers and blew up walkie-talkies

35:15

and killed a bunch of people and

35:17

then shot a

35:19

bunch of bombs into Lebanon. And it's

35:21

all getting very, very scary. It's

35:24

all ramping up in a fucking terrifying way.

35:27

But this video, it also shows that the

35:29

Iron Dome, Israel's

35:31

famous missile defense system, doesn't

35:34

seem to be catching all of them. I mean,

35:36

if you have enough launched your way at the

35:38

same time, some of them are going to sneak

35:40

through. So this is what it

35:42

looks like right now. It's fucking crazy. These

35:45

are all missiles, man, flying at

35:49

Israel. Jeez. Yeah, it's

35:51

fucking terrifying. And the Iron Dome.

35:54

This isn't even the best video. The video

35:56

that I was seeing was them impacting. Iron

36:00

Dome is basically a system to shoot them out of

36:02

the sky. Yes. So this

36:04

is where you see the Iron Dome is working.

36:06

So when they blow up, that's the Iron Dome.

36:08

So what it is, is they find the trajectory

36:11

of these missiles, the ones that are going to

36:13

open area, they let them slip through because it's

36:15

not going to harm anything. And

36:17

then like those, those are hitting down. But

36:20

the ones that are going into the city

36:22

area, they shoot down. And

36:24

you know, I don't know how many

36:27

missiles they have to do this. I

36:29

mean, you'd have to have fucking

36:31

thousands on standby because if they just

36:33

launch enough at you, you're not going to have enough

36:35

missiles. It's like it's a 180

36:37

ballistic missiles. Wow.

36:41

You imagine being in a city, you see 180 missiles coming at you. I

36:46

don't know how people live continuously

36:48

in areas where there's war zones. Like I

36:51

know like my friend, Matt Gutman from ABC News, like

36:53

he works there and I've seen him running through the

36:55

streets and doing that hard hitting stuff. But there's also

36:57

just people getting their groceries. Yeah. And

36:59

they're like, yeah, man, this happens every day. Like our friends that live in

37:01

Israel. Human beings are very

37:03

adaptable, unfortunately. Well fortunately, because that's why we're

37:05

still here. But unfortunately,

37:08

we get accustomed to some pretty

37:10

horrific conditions. And that's what

37:12

people are accustomed to. I mean, imagine living

37:14

in Gaza. Imagine that

37:16

you were living in a place where

37:19

literally a year ago today, it was

37:21

fine. It was normal.

37:24

And then now it's rubble. And

37:26

there's tens of thousands of people dead. And

37:29

that's an example of what you're saying about

37:31

seeing these images all the time. I remember

37:33

when that popped off. And I'm a big

37:35

believer in you pick one thing that for

37:38

most people, unless you're Elon or somebody

37:40

that can have a bunch of different things going on. But

37:42

for most of us, you got to live your life and

37:44

you got to pick one thing that you can help from

37:46

a lot of people. That's your family. For

37:48

me, I've dedicated myself to protecting the Amazon.

37:51

When it comes to everything else, like when

37:53

I start opening my phone, I remember this.

37:55

I was at my friend's house and it was seven

37:57

o'clock in the morning. And I opened my phone.

37:59

and it was a picture of a guy

38:02

lifting his dead baby with a crushed

38:04

skull. And I threw my phone

38:06

across the room and it ruined my whole day.

38:09

And how did, like,

38:12

it's absolutely horrific. And

38:16

I have become a

38:18

person that really shields myself from a lot

38:20

of what's going on because of the hysteria levels

38:23

right now. I don't think,

38:25

like, even World War II times, they go, okay, Pearl Harbor just

38:27

hit off, and people are like, wow, this is crazy. But

38:30

I don't think you were inundated with it all day long. You read

38:32

the newspaper, you talk to a few people, and then you're like, all

38:34

right, well, cool. I gotta go get Johnny from school and blah, blah,

38:36

blah, blah. Right, you didn't see it on your phone 24-7 all day

38:38

long. And it's not, Israel's popping

38:40

off, the south is getting flooded, you know,

38:42

the Amazon's burning, everything is happening all at

38:45

once, and it's all coming through on the

38:47

screen. So it says Iran launches a missile

38:49

attack on Israel, but Israeli military says no

38:51

casualties reported. So I guess that, that was

38:53

the thing that we're saying that the Iron

38:55

Dome, when they know that something's gonna go

38:57

to an open area where there's no one

39:00

there, they don't even bother wasting a missile

39:02

on that. A US defense official

39:04

said the United States intercepted some of the

39:06

missiles to help defend Israel. So

39:09

we're over there, too, doing that. The IDF

39:11

is doing and will do everything necessary to

39:13

protect the civilians of the state of Israel.

39:15

The Israeli military said in a statement, warning

39:18

people in the country to stay in shelters.

39:20

The explosions you hear originate from interceptions or

39:23

falls of missiles. The air defense system

39:25

detects and intercepts threats all the time.

39:29

So what happened in Tel Aviv

39:31

today, Jamie? There was some sort of

39:33

mass shooting in Tel Aviv that coincided

39:35

with this, which

39:37

is really scary. You

39:40

know, it's like what

39:42

they experienced on October 7th, okay,

39:47

fucking ads, at least eight dead in

39:50

suspected terror attack shooting in Tel Aviv.

39:54

So they even, oh, so Jesus Christ. Let's

39:56

scroll down to that image. So

39:58

some dudes just, Just

40:00

gunning people down Dead

40:05

scroll up the deadlier deal in full them in two

40:07

gunmen jumped off a train Central

40:09

Israeli city of Jaffa Jaffa and started

40:11

firing at just 7 p.m. Local just

40:14

after 7 p.m. Local time according to

40:16

authorities eight killed at least

40:18

seven wounded and You know

40:20

a lot of people that guy's dead right there

40:22

a lot of people there are armed

40:25

too, which is Fucking crazy

40:28

civilians. Yeah, just walking on your case

40:31

hot girls and in in Israel

40:34

like you can see them at a coffee shop

40:36

with the fucking no with an AR. I'm a

40:38

rifle sling Yeah, there's

40:40

like a bunch of videos of them

40:42

because so many of these people you

40:44

have mandatory military service in Israel Yeah,

40:46

that is so all the civilians have

40:48

to There's no civilians like everyone

40:50

is at least a former soldier. You got to be

40:53

ready, right? Yeah, you have to be Shit

40:55

like that guys walking on the street with machine

40:57

guns hot girls are machine guns how nuts But

41:00

that's just the world they live in it's

41:02

like they're just hanging out Yep, there's a

41:04

baby right and look she was like cute

41:07

shoes on like at any moment It could

41:09

pop off and so they don't fuck around

41:11

they just stay strapped. They don't just stay

41:13

strapped They stay strapped with fucking weapons of

41:15

war those are those are yeah, those are

41:17

no joke that ain't a sex shooter No,

41:20

she's got a gigantic magazine. She probably got

41:22

spare magazines Yeah, and she probably knows how

41:24

to shoot it. She was in the military.

41:26

Yeah, so it's men and women men. Yeah

41:29

Yeah, women have to join them Israeli military

41:32

as well look they're surrounded. I mean this

41:34

is this is something that's

41:36

very different It's very different than us

41:39

Well, I think that one of the problems that I see with

41:41

us is I think that people have forgotten Like

41:44

I grew up with the World War two generation all the all

41:46

my old uncle said that's growing up Oh, lady, like you know,

41:48

these are guys that had you know

41:50

either storms beaches in the South Pacific or we're

41:52

in Europe And so World

41:54

War two was fresh on their minds as part

41:56

of the culture I grew up in and I

41:58

think when I look kids born, you

42:01

know, 9-11 and down or

42:04

later, I think we've

42:06

forgotten the fact that safety is

42:08

a huge privilege. Oh, yeah.

42:10

We grow up safe. Like some of the people, the things

42:12

that they're screaming about or worried about or whatever else, it's

42:14

like some unity would happen from

42:17

remembering the fact that that's

42:19

a reality. We could be in danger.

42:21

Well, we've got so few attacks on American soil.

42:23

You know, you have Pearl Harbor, which is kind

42:26

of America. You know, Hawaii should

42:28

be its own country. I mean, it's kind of

42:30

fucked. Doesn't feel like it. We own Hawaii. I

42:33

mean, I guess it's good that Hawaii gets

42:35

the protections of the United States, but it's

42:37

kind of crazy that it's five hours, rather,

42:40

by airplane over the ocean. In the middle.

42:42

Until you get to Hawaii and that's considered America. But

42:45

I mean, I don't know how they feel about it.

42:47

I'm assuming they'd probably like to have sovereignty. But

42:51

the point is, like, that was World War

42:53

II. So that was Pearl Harbor. That's an

42:56

attack on American soil. What's

42:58

after that? 9-11. 9-11.

43:01

That's crazy. Like, we are

43:03

so used to being safe. Whereas

43:05

you think of even Russia, what Russia

43:08

went through, the losses that Russia went

43:10

through during World War II, absolutely

43:13

fucking horrific. And

43:15

they've done that throughout history. There's

43:17

been conflicts throughout history in Russia.

43:20

Now you go into any other part of

43:22

the world. I saw something terrible today. Some

43:25

fucking workers at the Great Wall

43:27

of China, they didn't want to

43:29

go the long way around the

43:32

wall, so they broke down a

43:34

section of the Great Wall of

43:36

China so they could drive through

43:38

it. Did they have machinery? Did

43:40

they have slig hammers? Yeah. They

43:43

were doing fucking construction work out there.

43:45

So they just broke down the Great

43:47

Wall. Jail. Oh, they're going to get worse

43:49

than jail in China. Yeah. They're going to turn

43:51

you into a fucking suitcase. I mean, that's terrible. It's

46:00

unfortunate, but it's a part of being

46:02

a person. And I think hate

46:04

and anger and destruction

46:06

actually motivates love

46:09

and construction and progress and doing

46:11

things correct and recognizing what can

46:13

happen if you do things the

46:15

wrong way. Let's do

46:17

things the right way. Like organic

46:20

farming, like people changing their farms

46:22

to regenerative agricultural farms is coming

46:24

out of people who are looking

46:26

at these industrial monocrop agriculture farms

46:28

and the waste that it produces,

46:30

which is legal. The waste that

46:32

it produces in river systems is

46:35

fucking insane. There's a

46:37

guy that we've had on, his name is Will

46:39

Harris, and Will is from this

46:42

farm in Georgia called White Oaks

46:44

Pastures. It's a regenerative farm. He

46:46

got this farm. It's

46:48

a family owned farm. They've had

46:50

it forever. And it took him

46:53

years to change this farm from

46:55

an industrial farm to regenerative agriculture.

46:57

But there's a section of the river near

47:00

his property where his property

47:02

line meets his neighbor. So

47:05

his neighbor has an industrial

47:07

farm and he has regenerative

47:09

agriculture. And you could see

47:12

it in the river. There's a clear

47:14

line of differentiation. Look at that. I'm

47:17

guessing his is the clear one? Yes.

47:19

Shit. All that

47:22

stuff. So most of these farm

47:24

lands, the top soil is gone.

47:26

There's not. Whoa, Jesus. There's no

47:28

minerals. There's no nutrients. There's no

47:31

nothing. And so you have to

47:33

use industrial strength fertilizers. You have

47:35

to lose all this garbage and

47:37

bullshit. And so that stuff, it

47:40

just sits on the top. And

47:42

so when the rain comes and when

47:44

they spray the crops and water the

47:46

crops, the runoff goes right

47:48

in the river. So these

47:50

poor fish are just getting fucking choked to

47:53

death on all this shit.

47:55

And then there's the pesticides and the

47:57

herbicides and whatever the fuck they're saying.

48:00

spraying and this guy is trying to turn it

48:02

around he's trying to do the right thing that's not

48:04

will okay I don't know who that gentleman is I

48:06

think he works with will but

48:09

he's explaining how

48:11

bad the situation is that comes off of

48:13

these other farms so the left is what

48:15

the creek supposed to look like the right

48:17

is what happens and no consequences you should

48:19

be in trouble for this right if you

48:21

like hey you can't run your farm this

48:23

way like is this what happens when you're

48:25

on your farm this way stop

48:27

the farm okay we got to figure out how to

48:29

do this the right way is there a way to

48:31

for your water to look like the water is six

48:34

inches away is there a way well that's the only

48:36

way you can make farming so in Russia organic

48:39

like they don't even allow genetically

48:41

modified crops anymore really no no

48:43

Putin is like this is bullshit

48:45

like this should be illegal when

48:48

you're a dictator you could do stuff like that but

48:51

but that but that's a that's a fundamental thing

48:53

you know if you go to a building with

48:55

a sledgehammer or to the Great Wall of China

48:57

and you start messing with it you're gonna get

48:59

in trouble yes and it

49:01

seems like you can cut down forests pollute

49:03

the rivers dump shit in the ocean and

49:05

for the most part it's okay

49:07

yeah no one's really gonna come after you

49:09

and we can do a lot less of

49:11

that too if we here's another another

49:14

issue commoditizing hemp a

49:17

lot of the stuff that we cut trees down for

49:19

is paper paper let's

49:22

Google in America how

49:24

many acres of trees are

49:27

cut down every year for paper so

49:30

the demonization of

49:34

the recreational drug cannabis

49:36

came entirely from

49:38

hemp the commodity it

49:41

wasn't about the drug was another

49:43

bad no people had consumed that

49:45

drug for thousands of years it's

49:47

one of the safest drugs in

49:49

terms of like risk profile the

49:51

LD 50 of marijuana is nuts

49:53

you LD 50 is lethal dose at 50% is

49:55

that you lethal dose yourself That

54:00

looks like a modern one. It

54:02

doesn't look too complicated either. Well, it's

54:04

basically like a wheel with some teeth

54:07

to it and it grinds the shit

54:09

out of the hemp. And

54:11

what they used to use back in the day was slave labor.

54:14

So slave labor and, you know, poor

54:16

people would have to do all this

54:19

incredibly backbreaking work to break down the

54:21

fibers because they're so tough and durable.

54:23

Well then they invented this machine and

54:25

once this machine got rolling they're like,

54:28

oh shit, let's start using hemp

54:30

because it's way better. So all

54:32

this forest cutting down shit is

54:35

completely unnecessary. That's because a paper

54:37

guy wanted it. And

54:40

a paper guy in the 1930s. And

54:42

so he got together with Harry Anslinger and

54:45

they utilized all these people that they were

54:47

using to make alcohol illegal.

54:49

The probe, excuse me,

54:51

the prohibitionists during the time where they

54:54

were going after, you know,

54:56

whiskey manufacturers and gin makers and these

54:58

moonshine people, which is where NASCAR came

55:00

from, by the way. NASCAR

55:03

came out of moonshiners. Driving quick. Yeah. They

55:06

needed a souped up car. So they took

55:08

those people who were just arresting

55:10

people all over the country for

55:12

alcohol and then they sicced them

55:14

on marijuana. And marijuana was never

55:17

the term for cannabis. Marijuana

55:20

was a slang term for

55:22

a wild Mexican tobacco. A

55:25

totally different plant. So William Randolph

55:27

Hearst starts printing articles in his paper

55:29

about Mexicans and black

55:31

guys who were smoking this

55:33

new drug, marijuana and raping

55:35

white women. And then they

55:37

fund Reefer Madness and they fund these movies.

55:40

These propaganda films. And that's where that comes

55:42

from. All that comes from- Marijuana cigarettes. It

55:44

all comes from hemp. It all

55:46

comes from the commodity, from them having

55:49

this interest in paper. Research

55:52

suggests that hemp is twice as effective

55:54

as trees at absorbing and locking up

55:56

carbon. So hemp is one

55:58

of the fastest growing plants in the world. 4

56:00

meters high in a hundred days so in

56:03

a hundred meters high and yeah in a

56:05

hundred days You have a new

56:07

crop. Yeah, it's the best fucking thing

56:09

we can grow for paper Which is 40%

56:12

of all the trees were chopping down

56:14

and it takes forever been to old

56:16

growth forests in like the Pacific Northwest

56:19

Where they do logging? Well, you've

56:21

been to the Amazon you've seen the worst slash

56:24

and burn art But but the

56:26

point is if you go to these cut places

56:28

these places where they cut the trees they grow

56:30

new trees They plant new trees there, but

56:33

it takes forever. It takes I mean a

56:35

seco I'll say boy a tree holes of

56:37

redwoods of years thousands of years. There's I

56:39

see those pictures that I can't remember This

56:41

dude's name he put he takes a picture

56:43

with the trees before the loggers come

56:46

through and any trees, you know Double the size.

56:48

Yes, and then he has this

56:50

picture with the tree after and it's a fucking

56:52

heart. It's a horrible It's it's

56:54

horrible that we can just walk up to

56:56

something that's a thousand years old and make

56:58

a fucking basket out of it Like

57:01

this is unnecessary. It's totally

57:03

unnecessary. Yep, and it could

57:05

well It can all

57:07

be mitigated. This can all be mitigated

57:09

all of it Can you know the

57:11

real problem is hardwoods, you know hardwoods are

57:13

very very valuable and people like them And

57:15

you know and they're protected in some places

57:18

and not others like in California If you

57:20

have oak trees, you can't chop them down

57:22

unless you get a permit We had a

57:24

tree that was about to fall in our

57:26

house. It's like it's like it's

57:28

on the way go and you know, California the

57:30

earth tends to shake a little bit a little

57:32

bit things go sideways and your fucking house gets

57:35

crushed by a tree but you know

57:37

you have to there's We

57:39

have to figure out how our

57:42

desire for hardwood Like

57:44

the source of that hardwood if your

57:47

desire for a beautiful, you know mahogany

57:49

table Well, they're beautiful gorge. Look at

57:51

your desk amazing But if you got

57:53

could go to the Amazon and see

57:56

That someone chopped down a tree that you were

57:58

describing that massive tree The people

58:00

that probably hadn't seen a hundred years

58:02

or whatever, maybe ever. Who

58:05

knows? Some of these trees are 1,200

58:07

years old. Maybe there's no one else dumb enough to walk

58:09

through that place with no water. We

58:11

might have been the first people to ever see that

58:13

tree. When I was in Scotland, they were claiming this,

58:15

I don't know if this is true, but, because

58:18

there's a lot of really old shit in Scotland. They

58:20

have these stones. Really? Yeah, we were

58:22

in Scotland. There's these guide stones on the ground and I

58:24

go, what's that from? They go, we don't know. I go,

58:26

how old is it? They're like, it's about 5,000 years old.

58:29

I was like, what? You just walk up

58:31

to a 5,000 year old stone. There's

58:33

a stone circle out there. There's a

58:35

stone circle that someone has constructed that's

58:38

similar to Stonehenge, but on a much,

58:40

much smaller scale. It's

58:42

older than Stonehenge and it's just on the street in

58:44

front of this dude's house. This

58:46

guy said, do you want to see it? It's not even like a

58:48

heritage site. No, it has a little plaque that's that big. We

58:51

got out of the car and we walk over to it.

58:54

You could walk on it. You could stand on it.

58:56

I'm like, this is so weird. How old is this? We're

58:59

not exactly sure, but it's thousands and thousands

59:01

of years old. The Druids made these things.

59:03

I didn't know where it came from. They

59:05

don't know. They don't know who did it. They

59:08

don't know why. This guide stone was just

59:10

on the ground next to this pathway. I

59:12

was like, what is this? That's

59:15

a 5,000 year old guide stone. What is... What?

59:19

Whoa. Who made that there? Why

59:21

isn't there a museum built around this fucking thing? That's crazy

59:23

that it's just laying on the ground. No,

59:25

I mean, it's... This is a meteorite? Yes. That

59:28

is a meteorite. That's super. So, weren't

59:30

they saying that... So

59:32

they were telling me that the oldest tree in

59:34

the world is in Scotland. I was like, what?

59:36

I don't know how that's true. I thought the

59:38

oldest tree was... Has to be in Africa. Wouldn't

59:40

it be? I thought it was in

59:42

the Middle East somewhere. It was like one of those, it's

59:44

like six feet tall and super pretty. Right, all fucked up

59:47

gnarly. And they said it predates Jesus. It's

59:49

like ancient, ancient, ancient tree. Really? Yeah,

59:51

yeah, yeah. What's the oldest tree in the world? This is

59:54

just... I didn't want to tell the guy. Get the

59:56

fuck out of here. I toured the land.

59:58

I don't know why the oldest tree is in Europe. These

1:00:00

are a coos. These are a coos. They're

1:00:02

cows. They call the cows coos. I

1:00:05

go, what are you saying, man? Scotland's

1:00:07

oldest tree. So it's 3,000 and 9,000 years

1:00:09

old. Between

1:00:12

three and nine. That's a big swing. Yeah, they

1:00:14

don't know. They're just, I mean, that's the thing

1:00:16

about that area. There's a lot of just guessing.

1:00:19

There's a lot of just guessing. So

1:00:21

see if you can show me a photo of

1:00:24

the oldest tree. Yeah, they're gnarly looking like you're

1:00:26

saying. It's not like a massive tree. No. When

1:00:29

you walk by it, you would think, oh, it's just a

1:00:32

tree. You would never think that thing's 9,000 years old. But

1:00:35

I'm curious what the oldest tree period is. I think

1:00:37

that's the one. Really? It's Scotland? That's the one they

1:00:39

were saying is the oldest tree. Well, this is just

1:00:41

what this guy is telling me. What

1:00:44

is that one? The oldest tree in the world. What's

1:00:47

that one? That one looks like it's the Middle East. I

1:00:50

don't think so. No. Couldn't be, right? I

1:00:52

don't know. Bristlecone. Where's that one?

1:00:54

Hine. Great patient. 100

1:00:56

years. Where's

1:00:59

Bristlecone? California. California.

1:01:01

So the oldest tree in the world is

1:01:03

in California? No. Hold on. It says something about

1:01:05

Atlanta. Oh, no, no, no. It says it.

1:01:08

Yeah. I don't think they're saying

1:01:10

it. Trees Atlanta is the website. That's kind of weird.

1:01:12

Is that maybe just like trees around the

1:01:14

world that they're studying in Atlanta? Wrong

1:01:17

rabbit hole is all made. The oldest

1:01:19

tree in the world. It looks like shit. It

1:01:22

looks like you would expect the oldest tree. You wouldn't

1:01:25

expect the oldest tree to look like those great redwoods.

1:01:27

California. Doesn't have a single fucking leaf. So how old

1:01:29

is that one? How old is that one? How

1:01:32

old is the oldest tree in the world? 4,855 years old. Yikes.

1:01:36

Methuselah. They have a name

1:01:38

for it. Methuselah. That's a good name. So

1:01:40

some cocksucker, you know there's some dude that's

1:01:43

thinking about turning that into a desk. There's

1:01:45

some fucking tech shithead. US

1:01:47

Forest Service doesn't tell visitors precisely

1:01:49

where Methuselah stands, nor does the

1:01:51

organization release photographs of the ancient

1:01:53

tree. Methuselah. Yeah,

1:01:56

someone's going to fuck it up. Can you look

1:01:58

up what the? Like

1:02:00

how old the general Sherman is I'm curious about

1:02:02

the sequoias, but this is interesting Jimmy because this

1:02:04

is I guess that other Website's incorrect because the

1:02:06

other website was saying it might be 9,000

1:02:09

years old this is the same tree right

1:02:11

here. I think the you from northern Wales wouldn't

1:02:14

that be yeah, but that's not Scotland Different

1:02:16

country, but I'm sure they have some old

1:02:19

shit to Prometheus I

1:02:21

yeah, I think that's the thing about a

1:02:23

lot of these old old trees is this

1:02:25

kind of guesswork Yeah, I don't think they

1:02:27

really know and I think it probably behooves

1:02:30

them behooves them to exaggerate

1:02:32

a little hooves You

1:02:34

know because it's kind of a good

1:02:36

bragging point say we got to see the world

1:02:38

Yeah, it's a draw for your for your town.

1:02:40

Whatever sorta. There's no one out there. It was

1:02:42

really cool like six people There's no one it's

1:02:44

got bro. Just fucking Scotland is like the whole

1:02:47

country's like the size of Austin in

1:02:50

terms of population Living single

1:02:52

stem tree on yeah single stem. Yeah, I'm

1:02:54

not not all complicated like the ones We just

1:02:56

saw this is like a pole a lot

1:02:58

of the rainforest trees are like this. We're just

1:03:00

a pillar general Sherman So is that a

1:03:02

Sequoia? Yeah, yeah, man. You've gone

1:03:04

up to Northern, California. Did that rain for

1:03:06

us? I haven't been up to the Northern

1:03:09

Cali, but the where the general Sherman is

1:03:11

It looks you know you know like if you play like

1:03:13

Super Mario 64 like when you get like you go into

1:03:15

like giant land Mm-hmm there was a

1:03:18

Sequoia tree that had fallen over I Mean

1:03:20

the thing was you know 36 feet thick I

1:03:23

don't know But I couldn't climb on top of

1:03:25

the tree and it fell over and it went

1:03:27

from here for like a city block Yeah, they

1:03:30

have one that has a tunnel carved out.

1:03:32

Yeah, we could drive your car through it

1:03:34

They're so cool and people want to cut

1:03:36

them down. Yeah, there's people frothing to cut

1:03:38

those. Oh, yeah, people are gross Especially

1:03:40

some fucking psychopath who's on Adderall?

1:03:43

Sherman tree contains more wood volume in

1:03:45

its trunk than any other tree on

1:03:47

earth and you know that's not That

1:03:50

seems like to make sense to me like that's

1:03:52

the oldest tree You know when

1:03:54

I see that little ratty little fucking bush in

1:03:56

the desert like that's not the old you lying

1:03:58

bitch. Yeah, I see I thought it would

1:04:00

be somewhere on the side of a mountain where

1:04:02

it's like high wind and they're growing slow over

1:04:04

a thousand years, so no humans would have been

1:04:06

up there. Every year it's

1:04:08

just adding a millimeter to its... Well,

1:04:11

we know so much about the

1:04:13

world in comparison to what they

1:04:15

knew 500 years ago, but yet we still know so

1:04:17

little. They still... Like

1:04:20

2010, they found a new human species,

1:04:23

the Denisovans. They didn't even know the Denisovans were

1:04:25

a thing until 2010. And

1:04:28

now they think that the Denisovans, like

1:04:30

a lot of the Aborigine people in

1:04:32

Australia, have Denisovan in them and maybe

1:04:34

possibly even Neanderthal in them. They

1:04:36

only described the fact that there was two

1:04:38

species and not one species of fucking elephant

1:04:40

in Africa in the 90s. Well,

1:04:44

wasn't a gorilla like a myth

1:04:46

until they went... I think gorillas

1:04:48

were like mythical creatures until

1:04:51

like the 1800s. When

1:04:53

did they discover gorillas? And

1:04:56

I think the first European to see a gorilla probably had

1:04:58

some mental issues. Well, I'm sure an African saw gorillas, but

1:05:00

they couldn't get the word out. But

1:05:03

like the first explorer with his chain mail to show

1:05:05

up and look at a gorilla. It

1:05:07

wasn't until early 19th century that people

1:05:10

native from the areas where they live,

1:05:12

such as the Democratic Republic of the

1:05:14

Congo and Gabon, knew gorillas better, but

1:05:17

among people outside of Africa, they were

1:05:19

mostly mythological creatures. There's

1:05:22

human-like big 400-pound

1:05:24

monsters and like insane.

1:05:27

Yeah, well, there's... Insane. This

1:05:30

is a really controversial one. It's the

1:05:32

Bondo ape, and that's a particular area

1:05:34

of the Congo called billy. And

1:05:37

billy has this unusual strain of chimpanzees

1:05:39

that have a crest on their head

1:05:41

like a gorilla. So like this

1:05:43

is a normal chimpanzee skull. See how it's smooth

1:05:45

on the top? Yeah, I

1:05:47

think the gorillas have this big crest,

1:05:50

because their mandible muscles are so massive...

1:05:52

Attentives, yeah. ...because they mostly just,

1:05:54

they only eat plants. So they're

1:05:56

mostly eating fiber. So they're just

1:05:58

crushing roots and... So that's

1:06:00

all day long. You have to grab

1:06:03

onto that. Massive muscles. Well, these chimpanzees,

1:06:05

they thought initially they perhaps were a

1:06:07

hybrid between chimpanzees and gorillas because they're

1:06:09

much bigger. They're like six feet tall.

1:06:12

Hybrid between chimpanzees. And they're enormous. It's a

1:06:15

really controversial thing. Some people think that it's

1:06:17

just an unusual group

1:06:19

of chimpanzees. There's

1:06:21

this area in Africa, there's a documentary

1:06:24

on it called Relentless Enemies. It's an

1:06:26

amazing documentary about this river changed course

1:06:28

over the years and these lions got

1:06:31

stuck on this island with nothing but

1:06:33

water buffalo. So all the

1:06:35

lions looked like Yoel Romero. They all

1:06:37

just looked like, fuck it, Brock Lesnar

1:06:39

lions, female lions as big as male

1:06:42

lions in other parts of Africa. Super

1:06:44

Jack female lions just fucking up these water

1:06:46

buffaloes. Well, they do all the heavy lifting.

1:06:48

Yeah, because they have to adapt to their

1:06:50

environment. So there was some thought that maybe

1:06:53

this was a particular strain

1:06:55

of chimpanzee that had adapted

1:06:57

and was just unusually large.

1:06:59

But they're fucking huge, man. There's

1:07:01

a guy named Carl Armand. He's a

1:07:03

Swiss wildlife photographer and he dedicated his

1:07:06

life to exploring these animals and documenting

1:07:08

them. And he got photographs of them

1:07:10

on a camera trap walking on two

1:07:13

legs. Bro, you guys see

1:07:15

what they look like? Oh yeah, they look

1:07:17

nutty. They look nutty. I mean, they're hunched

1:07:19

over a little bit, but they look so

1:07:21

much bigger than a regular chimpanzee. So

1:07:23

this is a real thing. This isn't like cryptogenology. No, no, no, no.

1:07:26

They have tissue samples. They have bones. So

1:07:28

we have separate DNA for... Yep, plenty of

1:07:30

videos of these things. It's

1:07:32

an actual animal. The question is,

1:07:34

is this a subspecies? Is it

1:07:36

a completely different species? It's like,

1:07:39

right... Wouldn't we be able to tell that from

1:07:41

the tissue? Well, it's a

1:07:43

novel tissue though, right? So it's a

1:07:45

new thing. So if it

1:07:47

is, they're trying to figure out exactly

1:07:49

what happened and how many of them

1:07:52

there are. And it seems to be

1:07:54

in this incredibly dense war-torn area of

1:07:56

the Congo where these things live. But

1:07:58

we know there's bonobos, right? which kind of

1:08:01

look like chimpanzees, but they're really different. They're

1:08:03

not violent at all. They just fuck. They

1:08:05

just fuck. They have arguments and

1:08:07

they fuck each other. And that's how they get over everything. They

1:08:09

use hemp. Yeah, they probably do.

1:08:11

They're probably stoner monkeys. I wonder what's in

1:08:13

their diet. But these monkeys are, these chimpanzees

1:08:16

are very different than the other chimpanzees, like

1:08:18

from Chimp Nation, where they're super violent and

1:08:20

they kill monkeys all day. And

1:08:23

they, you know, they fight over fruit. Chimp

1:08:25

Nation is the show. Netflix. Netflix

1:08:28

document. It's being amazing. That's

1:08:30

the one where the scientists were embedded with

1:08:32

these chimpanzees for 20 years. So

1:08:35

the chimpanzees behave completely normal. When you say

1:08:37

embedded, like what Goodall did, like sitting there,

1:08:39

like right there. They lived with them. So

1:08:41

they set up camp in these forests and

1:08:43

they had very clear rules. Number

1:08:46

one, stay 20 yards away, always.

1:08:48

Not much. Not much. Pretty

1:08:50

close. But when it gets closer to 20 yards, get out

1:08:53

of there. No food. Don't

1:08:55

bring any food. Don't look them in the

1:08:57

eyes. No fucking around. So the chimpanzees, their

1:08:59

whole life, the chimpanzee lives, you know, in

1:09:01

the wild, probably 15, 20 years or whatever.

1:09:04

Their whole life they've been around these people. So

1:09:06

they act completely normal. Those people are just like

1:09:08

another tree. Just another thing that's

1:09:10

not of consequence. It doesn't steal resources from

1:09:12

them. It doesn't try to intimidate them. It

1:09:14

doesn't infringe on their territory. Never gets closer

1:09:17

than 20 yards. No worries.

1:09:19

So because of that, they've got this

1:09:22

insane footage. It's one of the most

1:09:24

incredible documentary series of all time. And

1:09:26

they study the social behavior between the

1:09:28

chimpanzees. And I had the guy on who

1:09:30

directed it. It was really fascinating. I'm like, how often do they

1:09:32

eat monkeys? He's like, dude, we couldn't even show them all. They

1:09:35

just eat monkeys all day. That's their favorite thing to

1:09:38

do. And they just rip them apart. Yeah. And

1:09:40

they didn't even know that until the 90s. When David Attenborough

1:09:42

went to the jungle to film

1:09:45

chimpanzees, they caught them hunting monkeys

1:09:47

and eating them alive. It's terrifying.

1:09:50

It's crazy. It is terrifying. There's a monkey

1:09:52

and he's, this chimp has it, like

1:09:54

his hand is around its waist. And it's

1:09:56

just eating it from the hips down like

1:09:58

this. It's

1:10:02

just got this little monkey face that looks

1:10:04

so much like ours it's so close to

1:10:06

us and this chimps just So

1:10:10

they have 20 on a leg off

1:10:12

and handed it to this other champion.

1:10:14

He's chilling it share. Oh, yeah, they

1:10:16

share Well, that's a big part of

1:10:18

this this docu-series interesting is how they

1:10:20

set up the social structures Their social

1:10:22

structures are so similar to ours. It's

1:10:24

like we think that the biggest chimpanzees

1:10:26

like the alpha male Yeah, not some

1:10:29

of them. It's not it's a smart one who

1:10:31

has made comrades and made

1:10:33

a community and and is very

1:10:35

fair chimpanzees have a very strong

1:10:38

sense of fairness and Being

1:10:41

slighted like if one of the elders

1:10:43

doesn't get a piece of the monkey

1:10:45

they get fucking furious Like what have

1:10:47

you done? Like you have to make

1:10:49

right like you have to like soothe

1:10:51

peoples or monkeys chimpanzees Anger

1:10:54

being slighted Dude, yeah

1:10:56

well, I when I was a Cattle's remember this

1:10:58

as a kid as watching a nature show and they

1:11:00

had a I had to call it

1:11:02

the third beetle principle There was the two male

1:11:04

beetles were battling and the females watching and

1:11:06

while the two male beetles are battling the

1:11:08

third beetle comes and fucks The female that's what

1:11:10

happens with elk all the time and it was

1:11:12

just like, you know be a third Yeah, they

1:11:15

studied white-tailed deer as well same same thing happens

1:11:17

The big guys are fighting when the big guys

1:11:19

are fighting the little sneaky ones like hey Yeah

1:11:25

See do you have any see if you can

1:11:27

find a photograph of that? Bondo ape. Yes, please.

1:11:29

I need again very country the car Commercial

1:11:32

though he has because like people don't want to

1:11:34

believe it's real. So that's one Yeah, that one's

1:11:36

a dead one. They shot at an airport. Holy

1:11:38

look at the size of it compared to those guys It's

1:11:40

so much bigger than trying to get on a plane This

1:11:43

is um, you never see that movie the

1:11:46

Congo. It's a stupid movie like I

1:11:48

read the book It was a cool

1:11:50

book with that gorillas could they talk

1:11:52

but those chimpanzees the crazy chimpanzees were

1:11:54

based on these Bondo apes Yeah, that's

1:11:56

the idea. So That

1:11:59

picture up in the top Right with it the black

1:12:01

and white one. Yeah, well see if the

1:12:03

fire find the camera trap photo scroll down

1:12:05

a little bit It'll probably be one of

1:12:07

the first photos that you see there's a

1:12:09

camera trap photograph. No, that's a different one.

1:12:11

That's one that Lived

1:12:14

in America if I saw that in the forest

1:12:16

I would kill myself There's one they called them

1:12:18

humanity and they thought at one point in time

1:12:21

that maybe somebody had fucked a chimpanzee These

1:12:26

are all good, that's it that's it What

1:12:29

it says world of Carl Amand on the top shelf,

1:12:31

yeah right there. That's the camera trap

1:12:34

photo That's not the

1:12:36

best version of it. I've seen more clear

1:12:38

version, but he's walking around and They're

1:12:41

enormous these guys said they had

1:12:43

a Land Rover and they they had a defender and

1:12:45

they stopped or whatever the truck was They stopped the

1:12:47

truck in the road as one walk by and it

1:12:50

was taller than the truck What?

1:12:53

The shoes they're enormous some

1:12:56

of them are like I said, they're like six

1:12:58

foot tall chimpanzees and But

1:13:01

just imagine how strong a regular chimp is

1:13:03

so that is that's definitely that one up

1:13:06

there Click on that. That's

1:13:08

click on the gallery So

1:13:10

Carl Amand is this guy who was

1:13:12

this wildlife photographer that when

1:13:15

they became aware of this subspecies? You see

1:13:17

see the photographs of the skull. Yeah, see

1:13:19

how that Ridge, right? So the one behind

1:13:21

it is a regular chimpanzee skull and then

1:13:23

the the much larger one is the Bondo

1:13:26

ape skull They also nest on the ground

1:13:28

like gorillas. Yeah, they're like nobody's fucking with

1:13:30

me They're fucking

1:13:32

huge man And there's

1:13:34

not a large population of them and they're not

1:13:37

it's not very well studied Because

1:13:39

it's so remote. Mm-hmm. It's very fucking

1:13:41

dangerous to get there But you

1:13:43

see those bones on the ground show that image again.

1:13:46

Look at the size difference between the

1:13:48

regular chimpanzee skull In

1:13:50

the background and then the Bondo ape in the foreground

1:13:52

and look at the crest on the head. Yeah nuts

1:13:55

That's the locals have two names for

1:13:58

chimpanzees. They call them tree beaters Similar

1:16:00

to a person yes, it's

1:16:02

we it looks weird. There's better images of

1:16:04

it, and there's video of this, but I

1:16:06

think Along the way

1:16:08

that one right there to the left of that yeah right

1:16:11

there where you're at it's good, too So

1:16:13

look at his face. No like

1:16:15

that strange right strange features And

1:16:17

so you're working a bank very

1:16:20

weird so it led people to think that

1:16:22

his name is Oliver They led

1:16:24

people to think that Oliver was some sort of a

1:16:26

hybrid, but it doesn't seem like he is

1:16:29

it just seems like He's a weird odd facial, but look

1:16:31

they put him in a fucking suit and tie and shit

1:16:34

And they're fine became sexually attracted to

1:16:36

his care and preferred humans

1:16:38

over chimps The problem with

1:16:40

those things is they're horny just like you

1:16:43

know and he doesn't even know there's other chimps Cuz you

1:16:45

get to see him you know he's close

1:16:47

enough He's like I'll fuck you lady and like she's

1:16:49

taking care of him was like take care of this

1:16:52

He's he's a horny

1:16:54

fucking terror panzy. I've heard that orangutans

1:16:56

do that too. I'm sure they're

1:16:58

primates Well, this is

1:17:00

a you know that's that chimp nation show. That's

1:17:03

on have you seen that on Netflix I haven't

1:17:05

seen I've been I've been obsessed with the the

1:17:07

hundred foot wave I'm not sure I'm sorry not

1:17:09

chimp nation chimp crazy Chimp crazy is

1:17:12

all about these people that are like the tiger king

1:17:14

people that are all and so having tigers They have

1:17:16

chimps just crazy people with chimps in their house Yeah,

1:17:19

it crawls up. He's like fuck chimps. They'll

1:17:22

eat you Carl. You know goddamn heartbeat

1:17:24

This article

1:17:27

about Oliver has this photo we've used a

1:17:29

lot as I don't know that's not all

1:17:31

no that article should Was

1:17:33

taken yeah, that's just another chimpanzee. That's

1:17:36

not him, but he I'm sure they

1:17:38

took him from the Congo I mean

1:17:40

it wore wherever there's apparently there was

1:17:42

this is also something that we learned

1:17:44

from The guys

1:17:46

from chimp crazy that were on we're explaining

1:17:48

how this trade works Where they

1:17:51

kidnap these babies from their mother and

1:17:53

then they start raising them in captivity in

1:17:55

America and some places like Wyoming It's

1:17:58

legal so they'll go to Wyoming And

1:18:00

or was it Missouri? Where was it they buy

1:18:03

chimps, Missouri, right? I Mean

1:18:06

that the whole Tiger King thing fucking nuts man,

1:18:08

dude Those people all are

1:18:10

just normal people that have wild

1:18:12

animals Ligers, dude,

1:18:15

they I don't know if I should say this they

1:18:17

way before the Tiger King thing one of one of

1:18:19

the dudes Not the main Tiger King guy one of

1:18:21

the other guys And the

1:18:23

Myrtle Beach guy invited me to his place

1:18:25

and he's like is that the guy runs

1:18:28

the sex cult? Yeah, and he was like

1:18:30

you got to help me legitimize my shit.

1:18:32

I'm a real conservationist and so Me

1:18:35

and my friend Mohsen Who you know we

1:18:37

do all the photography all the Amazon fire stuff together and we

1:18:40

was like you want to go fuck fucking hang Out with Tigers

1:18:42

for a weekend. He's like, yeah, let's go. And so they

1:18:44

were like look we're legit You got it, you know, you're

1:18:46

you're a real conservationist. Come over here. Tell the world about

1:18:48

us Yeah, so

1:18:50

what they do is they have people sit in a

1:18:52

circle and you can go like with your

1:18:55

date and pay for this And they put a tiger

1:18:57

cub in your lap. Great. Cool But then what do

1:18:59

you do with those 16 tiger cubs next year when

1:19:01

they weigh? 500 pounds and

1:19:04

that's the answer. They all have an incinerator on site.

1:19:07

Oh, no Yeah, so they're breeding Tigers

1:19:09

and incinerating them also I was

1:19:11

standing that so many weird things happened that weekend It

1:19:13

was like it was going to get to be dangerous.

1:19:16

They just shoot them. I think burn them I don't

1:19:18

know how they euthanize them, but they

1:19:20

have an incinerator on site and

1:19:22

they're producing Tigers when you go Where do the

1:19:24

Tigers go? Oh my god, they go. Well, you

1:19:26

know And they're

1:19:28

going save Tigers save the world and there's animals

1:19:30

everywhere. I was I was doing something and the

1:19:33

girl walks by with a Liger. I Felt

1:19:37

like I was on mushrooms The

1:19:39

things fucking head is this big. Yeah, this is

1:19:41

so you know When's in Sandlot when they see

1:19:44

the beast and it's like it's like an animatronic

1:19:46

giant it looked ridiculous This

1:19:48

Liger walked by and was as tall as I

1:19:50

was and I just went I don't like it

1:19:52

here well, it's a weird hybrid because I think

1:19:55

it's is it a male tiger and a

1:19:57

female Lion or a male lion a female

1:20:00

tiger. I think it's a male

1:20:02

tiger. So

1:20:04

the problem is in male

1:20:06

lions, the gene that

1:20:08

regulates size exists.

1:20:11

So when a male lion breeds with a

1:20:13

female lion, I might be fucking this up,

1:20:15

but I know that this is the problem

1:20:18

with the liger, why they're so big, is

1:20:20

because whether it's the male or the female,

1:20:23

so it's a hybrid opposite of a

1:20:25

male lion and a tiger female. Okay.

1:20:27

So in the female lion then, or

1:20:30

in the male tiger, one of them, there's

1:20:32

this gene that regulates how big you get

1:20:35

and it doesn't exist in the liger. They

1:20:38

don't look right. They just, they get so

1:20:40

big. Their head. How

1:20:42

big do they get Jamie? Over

1:20:44

900 pounds. Jesus Christ. Although

1:20:46

a Siberian tiger I think can also get

1:20:49

like 900 pounds, like a number tiger, like

1:20:51

I think they can get pretty big. I

1:20:53

think so too. I think a liger is

1:20:55

way off the charts. I think

1:20:57

liger might be bigger than that. Yep. That was there.

1:20:59

Scroll down a little bit Jamie. Just like there's the

1:21:02

one I saw. 900 pounds. That's the cat. That's

1:21:06

a dude. Yeah. So this

1:21:08

one says it got to 922 pounds. Hercules, the largest non-obese liger. So

1:21:16

he's non-obese, not fat so they try to

1:21:18

cheat. Give him some donuts. That's some body

1:21:20

positive bullshit. Yeah. I bet he's not

1:21:22

if he's 922. Wow.

1:21:25

When he was three years old he weighed 408 pounds.

1:21:30

Oh my god, my god. 900 pounds. 408

1:21:33

kilograms. Oh my god. And now it weighs,

1:21:35

oh my god. Valley of the King's Animal Sanctuary

1:21:38

in Wisconsin had a male liger named Nook who

1:21:40

weighed over 1,213 pounds. Oh my god. So

1:21:42

Lion and Tiger in captivity are under 1,100

1:21:44

pounds. How big does

1:21:54

a Siberian tiger get? What's the largest

1:21:56

Siberian tiger? See that I would say

1:21:59

900. I feel like that

1:22:01

upper limit is 900 pounds and I have from

1:22:03

nose to tail about 12 feet That's

1:22:06

those are my guess 11

1:22:10

feet long. Yeah that book that

1:22:12

book the Tigers one of the best books It's

1:22:14

10 foot 11 inches long

1:22:16

from nose to tail weighed 932

1:22:20

pounds through that face Bro,

1:22:22

they're so beautiful, too. That's

1:22:24

what's crazy that it's a cat that lives in the

1:22:26

snow Like you think

1:22:28

of tigers you think of India

1:22:31

jungle jungle Yeah, you don't think of

1:22:33

a cat that lives in Siberia Yeah,

1:22:35

and it's the biggest one and messes

1:22:37

up the bears Oh and controls the

1:22:39

wolf populations That

1:22:44

paw oh my god, yeah And just

1:22:47

it's crazy that it's such a gorgeous thing that's killing

1:22:49

you like when you see them You

1:22:51

it's probably part of the trick like you're like

1:22:53

hypnotized by how beautiful it is like Look

1:22:56

at this thing. Was you ever see in life and color?

1:22:58

They show you the spectrum that deer see and they don't

1:23:01

see orange, right? Cuz I was my question

1:23:03

growing up as a kid. I was like why like why

1:23:05

would if you want to blend in? Why the why the

1:23:07

hell would you be orange and white and black? It seems

1:23:09

like that's like the most it's like having a neon is

1:23:11

the most dangerous thing in the forest is people Especially

1:23:14

people with guns. Yeah, no, no,

1:23:16

but I'm saying before that is why they did it They

1:23:19

do it so that you don't get shot by hunters

1:23:22

That's the whole reason why you have orange on Sure,

1:23:25

but I'm saying it stands out but I'm saying so my

1:23:27

question was why would a tiger? Because

1:23:29

deer see orange is because tigers live in

1:23:32

the grass and there's a lot of shadows

1:23:34

and stripes Yeah, they show you

1:23:36

can move around they show you deer vision and

1:23:38

it's they literally don't register that color orange So

1:23:40

it just looks like more green shit and a

1:23:43

tiger vanishes. It's such a cool clip It's on

1:23:45

one of those David Attenborough also wise zebras have

1:23:47

those funky stripes. I think if you're with them

1:23:49

Yeah, it confuses. I think all those lines fuck

1:23:51

with them Because they're not seeing

1:23:53

things like we're seeing this cup. We're seeing

1:23:56

you know your phone seeing writing I don't

1:23:58

think they see like that. They've Like it's

1:24:00

a lot of it is edge detection in

1:24:02

motion Like you know I was just elk

1:24:05

hunting and I got a video on my

1:24:07

Instagram So yeah, yeah, like blend in yep,

1:24:09

so they would not see all that stuff

1:24:11

They would just see what looks like branches

1:24:13

like squint and look at that image And

1:24:15

it's easy to see it for us. It's

1:24:17

very difficult to see it for them, and

1:24:19

if they're in the jungle densely Fault

1:24:22

foliated jungle, and there's all these trees and

1:24:24

shit They would just blend right the fuck

1:24:27

in and just lay in wait

1:24:29

for something that's slower than

1:24:31

them But I

1:24:33

was thinking when you're saying about the Bondo ape one of

1:24:35

the things that we're doing now is we're using Starlink to

1:24:37

deploy camera traps in areas because you just take a star

1:24:39

link right put it up in the top of a tree

1:24:42

We've got my team Stefan you figured this out. We take Starlink

1:24:44

you put it up in the top of a tree So it

1:24:46

has access Someone's got to climb the tree

1:24:48

put a Solar panel you got to

1:24:50

have Starlink in a solar panel and just like a

1:24:52

little a little box to run to run everything And

1:24:56

then you can deploy remote camera traps around and

1:24:58

so we're getting now we haven't published this yet

1:25:00

But we're getting live feed from parts of the

1:25:02

Amazon where there's no people and with the star

1:25:04

link you can send it back to With Wi-Fi

1:25:06

so you don't have to get the cards dude.

1:25:08

We get updates on our phones. Oh my god

1:25:11

Incredible if we did this in Bondo ape

1:25:13

territory you probably find them yeah But

1:25:16

you probably fucked up getting in there and putting that

1:25:18

stuff up there. That's the problem. It's humans me and

1:25:20

Lex could do it Yeah, the problem

1:25:22

is the humans I mean that's it's essentially run

1:25:25

by war zone war zone It's a war zone

1:25:27

run by warlords and then if you go into

1:25:29

the Congo you have the cobalt mines You have

1:25:31

all these things that are run by China There's

1:25:33

all the slave labor operations that are going out

1:25:35

there, and it's just the

1:25:37

whole area my friend Justin

1:25:39

He runs this charity fight for the

1:25:41

forgotten he goes to the Congo and

1:25:43

he builds wells And

1:25:46

you know we've had him on a few times talk

1:25:48

about his experiences over there But getting

1:25:50

to these people to try to

1:25:52

build wells for them is fucking

1:25:54

just fraught with peril You're dealing

1:25:56

with just gunfights break out people

1:25:58

get robbed People get pulled

1:26:01

over and guns held to their

1:26:03

head. Everything gets stolen from them.

1:26:05

It's like blood diamond. Yes, just

1:26:07

lawlessness, run by warlords, different

1:26:09

towns you go into, run by different people. You

1:26:13

have to have translators. Sometimes translators are like, this is

1:26:15

not good, this is not good, and you're like, oh,

1:26:18

fuck. And you're just over

1:26:20

there trying to help people. And so

1:26:23

if you're going to study these chimpanzees, like

1:26:25

this ain't, you know, the same

1:26:28

like the fucking Pacific Northwest just going to the

1:26:30

woods and like, oh, there's a deer. No, this

1:26:32

is, you're dealing with

1:26:34

humans, dangerous humans who are

1:26:36

desperate and who have lived their

1:26:38

whole life in these conditions. When

1:26:40

you go elk hunting, how long do you

1:26:42

spend, like how long is

1:26:45

an elk hunt for you? I give myself a week.

1:26:47

I always have a week, but you know, a lot

1:26:49

of guys who have more time, they'll do 10 days,

1:26:51

it depends on what kind of hunting you're doing. I'm

1:26:53

doing it in places where there's, it's

1:26:56

private access. So it's not,

1:26:59

if you have public land, you're going to get a

1:27:01

lot of hunters on that land, especially if there's elk,

1:27:03

and it pushes the elk deeper and deeper into the

1:27:05

forest. And if you want to really find

1:27:08

them, a lot of these guys,

1:27:10

they'll put their, like my friend Aaron Snyder,

1:27:12

he'll put a backpack on, he'll go two

1:27:14

weeks and they'll go, you know, 26, 30

1:27:17

miles in, and that's where the elk

1:27:19

are. And so not only that, you have to

1:27:22

pack them out. Oh yeah. You kill

1:27:24

an elk 30 miles in, and

1:27:27

it's 30 miles as the crow flies. Yeah,

1:27:29

yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not. 30 miles of

1:27:31

terrain. You're going up and down and up

1:27:33

and down, thousands of feet of elevation, and

1:27:36

it takes them days to get the animal

1:27:38

out. And how do, yeah, I've seen the

1:27:40

videos of that guy, you had this guy

1:27:42

on, he's awesome, Donny Vincent? Yes. I've

1:27:44

seen, he does a very good job of documenting his elk

1:27:47

hunts. He does. And he's always got the backpack with the

1:27:49

antlers on. Yep. And you have

1:27:51

to have a fucking strong back man.

1:27:54

Tracking poles are a must, and

1:27:56

you're carrying something on your back that's almost

1:27:58

what you weigh. person on

1:28:00

your back and you're trying to go 30 miles.

1:28:02

And that's only one trip. Yeah.

1:28:05

You're done, you drop it off, you have to

1:28:07

get it on ice or do something depending on,

1:28:09

depending rather on what the temperature is outside. You

1:28:11

have to preserve the meat, you have to put

1:28:13

it somewhere, usually in a cooler, you lock it

1:28:15

down, whatever you do you quarter it out, bone

1:28:18

it out, and then you're going back. So

1:28:20

you're going 30 miles for load number two.

1:28:22

And if you're so low, there's a lot

1:28:24

of guys that's so low, elk hunt, you

1:28:26

might have to go in four times to

1:28:29

get all the meat out. Because you physically

1:28:31

can't carry it all 30 miles

1:28:33

up and down the mountains without

1:28:35

risk of dying. No, how much

1:28:37

does an elk, I mean elk is gigantic. Hundreds

1:28:39

of pounds of meat. So I

1:28:42

could tell you exactly because we

1:28:44

shot these elk in Utah and

1:28:46

then we brought them to this

1:28:49

meat processing place that makes you

1:28:51

sausages and all kinds of cool

1:28:53

shit. And they weigh it, so they

1:28:55

weigh your meat. It was 400 pounds of meat. Of

1:28:59

harvested meat, that's not good. Yeah, there's bones. Bones

1:29:01

are gods. No, there's still bones in the quarters.

1:29:03

But the bones aren't that much weight. Let's

1:29:05

just say the bones

1:29:07

are 100 pounds. And I don't think they

1:29:09

are. But let's say they are. Yeah, I

1:29:12

don't think they are. Because it's just

1:29:14

a couple leg bones, it's quartered, so

1:29:16

it's basically the femurs. It's like a

1:29:18

rear hind quarter and a front quarter.

1:29:21

Let's say it's 100 pounds. It's still 300 pounds

1:29:24

of meat. You got to get out on your

1:29:26

own. You, 300 pounds

1:29:29

on your back. So you've got to do

1:29:31

it in 100 pound trips

1:29:33

probably. If you're smart but some guys

1:29:35

get crazy. 100 pound pack is a

1:29:37

lot. I know it is. I know a guy who fucked

1:29:39

his back up because he tried to do 180 pounds and

1:29:42

he went like 25 miles. And his back

1:29:44

is destroyed. His back is so destroyed that

1:29:47

one of his arms is atrophing because his

1:29:49

nerves are getting pinched because his fucking discs

1:29:51

are all bulged out and fucked

1:29:53

up. So you shoot an elk and

1:29:55

then you, let's say you're with two guys, I don't

1:29:57

know, and then you take as much as you can.

1:30:00

You come out now in the meantime that carcass

1:30:02

is sitting there You just you

1:30:04

just try and get back as soon as you can like

1:30:06

the meat doesn't go bad No, it's cold. It's cold out

1:30:08

when I was hunting it was hailing Okay, you know so

1:30:10

it's like it some of the days it was in the

1:30:12

30s some of the days It was in the 40s,

1:30:15

but it's a play over. Yeah,

1:30:17

it totally can but we didn't have to

1:30:19

wait overnight We packed it out that day.

1:30:21

I got very lucky that my friends came

1:30:24

down and helped me So we were

1:30:26

in the bottom of this canyon. It's

1:30:28

very very steep this part That's

1:30:30

like extremely difficult to get to which

1:30:32

is why the elk go there So it was

1:30:35

like you have to be very physically fit just

1:30:37

to get there just to get like when I

1:30:39

do cardio getting ready for elk hunts Literally,

1:30:42

I get ready for like I have to go

1:30:44

into a fight or train for it I'm doing

1:30:46

sprints on the air dye machine just to pump

1:30:49

my legs up just to do I'm doing box

1:30:51

jumps and box steps with weights I'm

1:30:53

doing all these body weight squats It's just to

1:30:55

have strong legs Just because you have to deal

1:30:57

with this this this terrain if you want to

1:30:59

go where the elk are Yeah Because they know where the

1:31:01

cats are and they know where they can hide Yeah and they

1:31:04

know where they can get away from people and that's in the

1:31:06

areas that are hard to get to which is the mountains and

1:31:08

the more hard to get to and the

1:31:10

elk go up it like it's nothing like They

1:31:12

just fucking run right up it like it's

1:31:14

it's so wild to watch because you you

1:31:16

you're struggling to go like a mile an

1:31:18

hour And these motherfuckers are like running over

1:31:21

the top of the hill against nothing Yeah,

1:31:23

but that's why they're there they're there because

1:31:25

they know that it's tough to get there

1:31:27

and yeah people won't fuck with them There

1:31:29

and you know, they rarely get fucked with

1:31:31

there. So that's how you have to get to

1:31:33

so I got lucky that there was five guys

1:31:35

in camp with me and everyone took a load

1:31:37

and I think Cam Haynes has

1:31:39

a photo of it on his Instagram of all

1:31:41

of us packing it out It was in one

1:31:44

of those multiple photo things but so

1:31:46

that that helped a lot because if it was just

1:31:48

me and my friend Colton who was my guide it

1:31:50

Would have probably taken us Fucking

1:31:54

most of the day. Yeah, most of the day just to get it

1:31:56

to the top of the hill where you can get a 4x4 to

1:31:59

it so you're now worried about you don't have like

1:32:01

camping gear also so you're no no that's good

1:32:03

yeah but a lot of guys do and those

1:32:06

guys the most effective hunters that go into public

1:32:08

land which is a much tougher thing to do

1:32:10

right because I said that because of pressure and

1:32:13

also because if you want to go with the elk

1:32:15

are the elk is a lot of people there's pressure

1:32:17

and the elk are gonna get the fuck out of

1:32:19

Dodge and so you have to find out where they

1:32:21

are it's a lot more groundwork and you're covering a

1:32:23

lot more miles so these guys they

1:32:26

put their camp on their back and they do

1:32:28

the chop the toothbrush in half that whole deal

1:32:30

every ounce yep they know where the

1:32:32

water is and they use things like

1:32:34

onyx maps so they chart their path

1:32:36

that's all of us nice so we're

1:32:38

packing out that's all the elk quarters

1:32:40

on different people's backs and that head

1:32:42

up there that's me carrying the head

1:32:44

out with the antlers nice you

1:32:47

know and it's um we're real

1:32:49

like I said real lucky that we had friends there

1:32:51

to help us but if you do that by yourself

1:32:53

if you're out there by yourself and you're 30 miles

1:32:55

in you got to be so strong

1:32:58

who took be so strong whose shot was that

1:33:00

I think it was Adam

1:33:02

my friend Adam Greentree he's an awesome photographer

1:33:04

that's lives in Australia who's with us hunting

1:33:06

too but that's the kind

1:33:08

of hunting that I do is the easiest kind

1:33:10

of hunting as far as that goes as far

1:33:12

as bow hunting in the wilderness goes yeah in

1:33:15

that you could do with a gun there's no hundred

1:33:17

times easier oh it's no but what I'm saying is like

1:33:20

there's not gonna be a lot of people

1:33:22

there no one's gonna fuck with you and

1:33:24

you know the elk are there yeah so

1:33:27

the much more difficult path is like the

1:33:29

public land hunter who has to go deep

1:33:31

into the forest to get away from all

1:33:33

the people like my friend Adam told me

1:33:36

he went 23 miles into the forest once

1:33:38

and he's like no one's gonna be any

1:33:40

found two tents he's like motherfucker these hunters

1:33:42

they're they're all realizing like so there's like

1:33:45

a category of hunter that's like these athletes

1:33:47

that love it yeah and but they're athletes

1:33:49

like these guys are super physically

1:33:51

fit so they can go 25 miles

1:33:54

30 miles in and they can be by

1:33:57

themselves which is which is pretty

1:33:59

serious They

1:36:00

better they better is it a movie or a series? It's

1:36:02

a movie, right? I hope that No,

1:36:04

I hope they do a movie. It's but it's Taylor

1:36:06

Sheridan. Yeah, so yeah, he'll do it right Because

1:36:09

that book I was reading that book on an expedition and

1:36:11

I was like When did

1:36:13

we stop being warriors never when

1:36:15

no i'm talking about going on right now?

1:36:17

It's just not us but the mentality the

1:36:20

mentality would they be like, oh, yeah quano

1:36:22

was You know by this stream and they

1:36:24

saw some other another tribe going that when

1:36:26

they just went let's go get them Yeah,

1:36:28

you don't need to do that. You might

1:36:30

die. Well, they were just like let's go

1:36:32

they went on raiding parties So they thought

1:36:34

it was fun. Yeah, that's what it was

1:36:36

to them They'd go and find other native

1:36:38

tribes and fuck them up and sometimes eat

1:36:40

them Yeah, but

1:36:42

i'm saying like that to me given

1:36:44

the modern context like we're raised to be

1:36:46

so sensitive and so considerate and yeah And it's

1:36:49

like these people you read about the

1:36:51

I don't remember quana's mom's name But the the cinthia

1:36:53

and parker the woman that was there's a photo of

1:36:55

her in the lobby Yeah, yeah

1:36:57

breastfeeding her baby. Yeah, that's her And like

1:36:59

she was kidnapped and I think she had

1:37:01

a baby that they killed And

1:37:03

then fast forward like five years 10 years later

1:37:05

and she only speaks command She didn't have a

1:37:07

baby when they caught her. No, she was only

1:37:10

nine Okay, I thought there was someone that

1:37:12

they caught and she had a baby and they killed it on

1:37:14

the rocks Like but but then she

1:37:16

became a command. She I

1:37:18

think they killed her mother's other

1:37:20

child Yeah, I think that's when they

1:37:22

killed her mother and they raped her mother and they they're

1:37:25

they were Unbelievably brutal, but

1:37:27

they had a hard time Um

1:37:29

with their population because they're riding horses so

1:37:31

much so they're losing a lot of babies.

1:37:34

Exactly. Yeah, so To

1:37:36

mitigate that they would take young kids So

1:37:39

they find young kids and they kidnap them and bring

1:37:41

them into the tribe. So they kill the parents And

1:37:44

incredible. Oh my god, some of the stories are

1:37:46

so and what the craziest thing is what our

1:37:48

government did Our government was like, hey,

1:37:50

you want a homestead go out there. We'll give

1:37:52

you a chunk of land What was that? They

1:37:54

did it to bait people the first scene of

1:37:57

that book the guy goes out there and he's

1:37:59

like, hello good friend Like, good day to

1:38:01

you. And they like cut his head off and peel

1:38:03

his face off. And it's like, holy shit. They kill

1:38:05

everybody. Well, you know, you're on their land as far

1:38:07

as they're concerned. What the fuck are you doing? And

1:38:09

what the government was doing was saying, hey, you can

1:38:11

go homestead out there. And

1:38:15

it was baiting them. And so then

1:38:17

they made these people fight off the

1:38:19

Comanche. And if it wasn't for Jack

1:38:21

Hayes and the Texas Rangers, Texas would

1:38:23

have never been settled. This was all

1:38:25

the Comanche. Dude, there's so many arrowheads

1:38:27

here. It's mad. I would go

1:38:30

nuts if I found an arrowhead in real life.

1:38:32

Like if I was walking and I found an

1:38:34

arrowhead, it would be the best day of my

1:38:36

life. I found one once in Nevada. There's that

1:38:38

one. You found it? No, I did not find

1:38:40

that one. That one was given to me. So

1:38:42

this is a real Native American arrowhead. Absolutely. My

1:38:44

friend Remy said that's probably one they use for

1:38:46

fish because it's larger. He said the ones they

1:38:48

use for deer are smaller because they don't have

1:38:50

a lot of force on their bows and they

1:38:52

have to penetrate. So they want a smaller diameter

1:38:54

arrowhead. Ouchie, wow, wow. That would do

1:38:56

it. Oh, fuck you up. That would do it.

1:38:59

And they used to have the ability

1:39:01

to hold all their arrows in between

1:39:03

their fingers so they could fire off

1:39:05

arrows one after another. That's why when

1:39:07

they came up with the musket, they're

1:39:09

like, this is not good enough. One

1:39:12

shot. Yeah, and then they got to sit there

1:39:14

and fucking, and they just filling you up with arrows. So

1:39:16

when Colt developed a revolver,

1:39:18

that changed the game. Because

1:39:21

now all of a sudden these guys had cartridges. I think

1:39:23

the initial one was five shots. So then

1:39:25

these cartridges, they could just pop the cartridge out, put a new one

1:39:27

in, bang, bang, bang, change the game. Yeah,

1:39:29

the crazy thing is he was sitting over there in New

1:39:31

Jersey, I think, developing that. He was like, I'm tinkering. And

1:39:33

he sent it to the, I think he said he sent

1:39:35

it over there and everyone was like, what is this? No,

1:39:38

he that. The government didn't want it for

1:39:40

soldiers. They're like, why do we need this? We don't need this.

1:39:42

But the Texas Rangers used it. Figured it

1:39:44

out. Yeah, and they're like, we need that

1:39:46

fucking thing. And so they were really the

1:39:48

predecessors, like to our image of like the

1:39:50

cowboy. Like that's the birth of the cowboy,

1:39:52

right? Well, I mean, that

1:39:55

whole image of like a dude with a hat on a

1:39:57

horse. Like that was the, to me, that's like, it looked

1:39:59

like you were getting. and towards after

1:40:01

the command sheet, like the end of the command

1:40:04

sheet times into the... I don't think

1:40:06

cowboys are around for long. That period that we think

1:40:08

of, like the Wild West, I think it was like

1:40:10

a period of like... It's kind of funny, right, because

1:40:12

it's such a genre in our history. Because we love

1:40:15

it. There's not a whole lot of Civil War cool

1:40:17

movies. No, because nobody likes the Civil War. But there's

1:40:19

a lot of Western cool movies. Because it's romantic. But

1:40:22

the history of genocide

1:40:25

in North America in terms of what happened

1:40:27

to the Native Americans has been so poorly

1:40:30

documented in movies. Because nobody wants to watch

1:40:32

that. Right. So the movies are all just,

1:40:34

you know, guys in saloons having shootouts with

1:40:36

other bad Americans. And every now and then,

1:40:38

some Native American would get into the picture,

1:40:40

and you'd have to fuck that Indian up

1:40:43

because he was trying to steal your goats

1:40:45

or whatever. Or be the cool tracker. Yeah,

1:40:47

yeah, yeah. Like in a Butch Cassidy and

1:40:49

the Sundance Kid where they're running and like,

1:40:51

they're like, these guys have a Native

1:40:53

American tracker. What

1:40:55

a weird genre of films that only looks at

1:40:58

it from one perspective, the perspective of the people

1:41:00

that came over there. And not even the real

1:41:02

thing that happened to people is exactly what happened

1:41:04

to people in the Amazon. It's disease. That's

1:41:07

the lost city of Z. Right.

1:41:09

You know, when they went there,

1:41:11

these first people were like, this

1:41:13

place is amazing. They have these

1:41:15

complex cities. It's golds everywhere. It's

1:41:18

gorgeous. And then so people made the trek back.

1:41:20

And by the time they went there, all those

1:41:22

people were dead. From dirty,

1:41:25

stinky European diseases. You're like, here,

1:41:27

you want some blankets? Yeah. Well,

1:41:30

that blanket thing's not real. No? No.

1:41:32

The smallpox on the blankets wasn't real?

1:41:34

No. They think that, I mean, there

1:41:36

might have been some instances where people

1:41:39

knowingly gave people blankets with smallpox. But

1:41:41

smallpox just spread. Just spread like wild

1:41:43

bears. Because everybody was immune to it

1:41:45

from Europe. Like not immune, but they

1:41:47

had some sort of antibodies because smallpox

1:41:49

was everywhere. So when they came over

1:41:52

here, we brought a bunch of shit

1:41:54

over here that just wrecked those

1:41:56

people. Yeah. There's, I did an

1:41:58

expedition and right. before Lex came into

1:42:00

the expedition in March and me

1:42:03

and JJ went to... we basically picked

1:42:06

a part of the Amazon that we'd never been to and went

1:42:08

let's go see what's over there and it

1:42:10

took us... We just picked a spot. We

1:42:12

picked a spot because it was around in

1:42:15

a place that like on the map there's

1:42:17

no towns, there's no nothing. So

1:42:19

we said let's go there and it took us

1:42:21

a week. We had to take a commercial flight

1:42:23

to a smaller flight to a smaller flight and

1:42:25

then we had to take a boat for three

1:42:27

days, nine hours a day, to get to the

1:42:29

start of the expedition. Now when you do that

1:42:31

do you check to see if there's uncontacted tribes

1:42:33

that are reported in those areas? We... what

1:42:36

you do is you get to the last town

1:42:40

and you go, you wait, what's that

1:42:42

way? And they tell you and

1:42:44

the scariest thing and this was one of the worst things

1:42:46

I've ever seen in my life was that there

1:42:49

were these tiny little people there and

1:42:51

they were... so there was like

1:42:53

normal Peruvians walking around like loggers,

1:42:55

gold miners, they're you know, they're

1:42:57

chainsaws, there's people who had gasoline

1:42:59

barges, there's also prostitute boats that

1:43:01

drive around like brothels that go

1:43:03

on a boat. Yeah and you

1:43:06

can pay them in wood surprisingly enough. Board feet of

1:43:08

timber, no joke. Whoa.

1:43:10

Yes you get to the real... like this is a place

1:43:12

where like you feel like you went in a time machine

1:43:14

and you get out there and there's

1:43:17

people with modern machines but then

1:43:19

off in the corner there are these little people and they

1:43:21

are still holding on to their bows and arrows and

1:43:23

you look at them and as soon as you look at them they hide and

1:43:27

we were like who are they and they're like those are

1:43:29

the Nawa and we were like what's going on

1:43:31

with the Nawa and it

1:43:33

turns out that the Nawa were

1:43:35

shooting at the oil company guys that were trying

1:43:37

to get into this deep... again a part of

1:43:40

the forest that never has been accessed before now

1:43:42

it's starting people are reaching deeper into the Amazon

1:43:45

and the problem is they'd be going up this river and there'd

1:43:48

be arrows flying by them. Oh my god.

1:43:50

So how'd they solve that problem? They funded

1:43:52

the missionaries, sent the missionaries

1:43:54

out there to talk to the Nawa and convince them

1:43:56

to come back to the nearest town so

1:43:59

these are uncontacted. of

1:46:00

their culture. There's no one, there's

1:46:02

no one who's going to help them. And they

1:46:04

were just terrified sitting there at the edges of

1:46:06

the streets and all these people are riding by

1:46:08

on motorcycles and rickshaws and there's boats going by

1:46:10

and these people are trying to look for a

1:46:12

rat to shoot. Oh my God. It was terrifying.

1:46:14

Oh my God. It was terrifying. I felt so

1:46:17

bad for them because they had no, you

1:46:19

could see they had no idea. And they don't

1:46:21

even speak the language. They don't even speak, they're

1:46:23

two degrees separated with language. So like you could

1:46:25

speak Yine, which is the local

1:46:27

tribal language there, but these people don't even

1:46:30

speak that. They speak their

1:46:32

language. So you'd have to go from

1:46:34

Spanish to Yine to Nawa. Oh my God. And we

1:46:36

were there and these people were going. So how

1:46:39

does someone know Nawa that you talk to?

1:46:42

Because one of the Yine guys that

1:46:44

I knew was, had been living

1:46:46

there so he'd picked up a few Nawa words and

1:46:48

so they were there. They were going. So how long

1:46:50

have these people been there for? I didn't get

1:46:52

that, but they were literally living in a

1:46:56

camp at the, like where the trees were. They

1:46:58

stayed by the trees. They wanted to be by

1:47:00

the trees. Oh my God. So there's people, you

1:47:02

could buy Coca-Cola there. Like this was like, you

1:47:05

could, you know, you could buy gasoline, Coca-Cola, whatever.

1:47:07

Way out there, there's a boat that has some

1:47:09

like gasoline cylinders. You can fill up your boat. And

1:47:11

then this is where, this is the long, it's like

1:47:13

during the gold rush in Alaska. It's like the last

1:47:15

place before you go

1:47:17

into the wild. Oh

1:47:20

my God. And these, it was just, it was

1:47:22

really horrible to see. And I think reading that

1:47:24

the empire of the summer moon was made even

1:47:26

worse because. That's so dirty. So they

1:47:28

tricked these people into going to the town and they

1:47:30

just abandoned them. Yeah. Oh my

1:47:32

God. And these people, how could they know that

1:47:35

someone would do that to them? They don't even know what a town

1:47:37

is like. They don't even know what a town is like. Oh my

1:47:39

God. They're terrified. And so they're still, you

1:47:41

know, you see them, they're washing by the river and they're

1:47:43

trying to feed their babies, but they're starving. And no

1:47:46

one gives a fuck. And they're treated like dirt too,

1:47:48

because people, because humans are humans and so. Right. No

1:47:51

one wants to help them. Nobody could talk

1:47:53

to them. And then of course they're, they're

1:47:55

kind of frustrated, right? So like they're not

1:47:57

exactly friendly either. Right. Wow. of

1:50:00

native language in the Amazon and the tribes will come

1:50:02

out and they'll, you know,

1:50:04

they'll come out and they'll, you saw it, they'll come out

1:50:06

and they'll just look, they'll look at them, they'll make gestures,

1:50:09

they'll do things, but if you get too close to them,

1:50:11

they shoot you. So you

1:50:13

can't really, you can't just go up to them and be like,

1:50:15

hey man, what's up? Do you want some eggs? You can't do

1:50:17

that. So what happens

1:50:19

is this standoff on either side of the river

1:50:21

where you have people that live

1:50:23

a remote lifestyle and are very, very indigenous,

1:50:28

but that can still interact with us that know,

1:50:30

you know, the modern world have seen a dollar

1:50:32

before, have seen a spoon, the wheel, blah, blah,

1:50:35

blah. Wear an Under Armour t-shirt. Yeah, exactly. And

1:50:37

then these people show up and

1:50:40

they got their dicks tied to their stomachs

1:50:42

and they wear no clothes and

1:50:45

they're doing, they're making sounds, sometimes you're using animal

1:50:47

calls. They tie their dicks down so they don't

1:50:49

get scratched up? They tie them up. So

1:50:52

if you look at this dude, here look, I'll just

1:50:54

pause it on when he's... That's so gangster. It's

1:50:57

like, yeah, man, I got to tie it up. I mean,

1:50:59

think about the stuff they're walking through. You don't want

1:51:01

to drag him on the ground. But everything's got a

1:51:04

thorn. So like, look, look at that. Like

1:51:06

he's, he's got that thing tied up. But

1:51:09

yeah, you don't want to get in, you don't want to get in,

1:51:11

I guess you don't want like mosquitoes having access to the head. That

1:51:15

could be a problem. That could be a problem.

1:51:17

Aren't there like little fishies that swim up your

1:51:19

dickhole too? That's only if you're peeing in the

1:51:21

water. A much worse thing is when

1:51:23

you take a shit in the jungle. Uh oh. All

1:51:26

the bugs are coming for you. Oh no. So you got

1:51:28

to like, you got to like be on, on like dick

1:51:30

patrol while you're doing that because you're going to get bug

1:51:32

bites on your ass, but you got to make sure. They

1:51:34

don't go in your asshole. Well sure. Right?

1:51:37

Does that happen? Is that true? Yeah, because as soon as

1:51:39

you, as soon as you crouch, dung

1:51:43

beetles bigger than golf balls start flying through the air. So

1:51:45

as you're trying to take a shit in the Amazon. So

1:51:47

they know as soon as you fart, there are animals falling.

1:51:52

And so you're sitting there and you have to, there's a

1:51:54

bunch of things you got to do. First, you got to

1:51:56

break your stick, right? So you have like some leaves. The

1:51:59

leaves is to keep. your ass bug

1:52:01

free to get the mosquitoes away. And

1:52:04

then the other thing you gotta do is you gotta be holding a tree

1:52:06

because you're crouching, right? But then you use your

1:52:08

ass stick to swat away the

1:52:11

dung beetles because they come in and

1:52:13

I, one dung beetle hit my friend Mohsen in the

1:52:15

eyeball and like scratched

1:52:18

his actual eyeball because it flew straight and

1:52:20

they have, you know, rhinoceros horns coming out

1:52:22

of their faces and their exoskeletons brutal and

1:52:24

they're heavy. It's a

1:52:27

big bug and they're airborne and they're moving

1:52:29

quick. And when they want your shit, cause

1:52:32

they're gonna take it and they're gonna roll it into balls and they're

1:52:34

gonna push it through the jungle and they're gonna lay their eggs in

1:52:36

it. Oh God. So yeah, taking a shit in the jungle is like

1:52:38

a hole. You have to know how to do it. If you don't

1:52:40

know how to do it, you could end up in a lot of

1:52:42

trouble. Good Lord, man. So

1:52:46

many things to think about and this

1:52:48

is your everyday existence. Yeah.

1:52:50

Yeah. So when you went to

1:52:52

that spot, when you decided let's

1:52:54

go there and it takes you three

1:52:56

days and you get up there and you see these people, did

1:52:59

you wind up going deeper into the jungle and

1:53:01

seeing how they actually live? So,

1:53:05

can you or is it dangerous? Well

1:53:07

both. Well I had some trackers with me who

1:53:09

were extremely experienced in all of this. They knew

1:53:11

where we could and couldn't go. And we went

1:53:13

on a, it took us a week

1:53:15

to get to the launch point and then we went on a

1:53:17

six day expedition from there where we're eating fish out of the

1:53:19

river, we're drinking out of the river, camping on the beaches. And

1:53:23

then we did reach a point where they

1:53:25

found signs of uncontacted tribes. And that's when

1:53:27

it gets dangerous. We're going

1:53:29

back. Wow. 100% going back. I

1:53:32

mean you have to. For everyone, there's absolutely

1:53:34

no way that you can continue going. You're

1:53:36

gonna either get killed or be killed. Like it

1:53:38

turns into, I

1:53:40

mean these guys turned around, they loaded the shotguns and they

1:53:42

were like, we turn around this moment. They turned to the

1:53:44

boat and just, like the moment that you

1:53:46

find. Because they know you're there before you know they're

1:53:48

there. Oh they know you're there. Yeah, if you're coming

1:53:51

in a boat too, it's probably making a lot of

1:53:53

noise. Yeah. Oh yeah. Wait.

1:53:55

They hear that thing from a long ways out. Two,

1:53:58

three weeks ago, some loggers, they found a- The

1:54:00

chainsaw, the loggers were chainsawing on

1:54:04

the Ta'wamanu River. The loggers were,

1:54:06

from the look of the, I'm kind of

1:54:08

Sherlock Holmes-ing the image I saw, the loggers

1:54:10

were cutting this log. They were

1:54:12

dead where they were standing. So you think these guys are

1:54:14

going, ehh, cutting this log,

1:54:17

and the tribes are surrounding them. They had no

1:54:20

idea. Wow. And they just started

1:54:22

throwing arrows from the shadows. And so they found

1:54:24

the bodies of two loggers. Did he find that,

1:54:26

Jamie? This was within August. Peru,

1:54:29

tribes, killed. There's a picture, like a

1:54:31

blurry picture of it. Of the loggers?

1:54:33

They don't show you anything. It's just, when it comes to the media. I

1:54:35

bet you can find it. Mmm. I

1:54:38

bet you can find it. I bet you my guys

1:54:40

have it on WhatsApp. Dark web. I bet your WhatsApp

1:54:42

group is wild. My WhatsApp group is ridiculous. I gotta

1:54:44

show you some of the pictures. I gotta start sending

1:54:46

you some crazy shit. Yeah, let me in. Yeah, man.

1:54:49

At least he's big, I promise I won't share him. I

1:54:51

got terrible pictures. Because one

1:54:53

time they killed these guys and their bodies were on the

1:54:55

beach for a few days, and they blew up and became

1:54:57

white, so they looked like the Michelin man. But then when

1:55:00

the vultures got to them, they started ripping out their eyeballs

1:55:02

and disemboweling them. So by the time people went

1:55:05

to find them. Just skeletons. It

1:55:07

was like the skeleton was half out of the

1:55:09

face of some of the most gruesome shit you've

1:55:11

ever seen. It was incredible. It

1:55:14

was incredible. That's like, dude, now because

1:55:16

of, you know, having

1:55:18

a large social media following, people just send me

1:55:20

their craziest shit. So I gotta be

1:55:22

careful what I open, because people will send you a video. And

1:55:25

like one thing that I found very disturbing, somebody sent me a video

1:55:27

and it was like, here, click on this.

1:55:29

And I was like, I don't know if I really want to. And

1:55:31

it was somebody like, there was like a deer, and he was

1:55:33

feeding a deer and feeding a deer. And then he takes a

1:55:35

handgun and shoots it in the head. And I was like, that's fucking

1:55:37

hard. I was like, no. So now I'm

1:55:39

careful, but somebody sent me a few weeks ago, a video

1:55:41

of, which this one I'm probably gonna share, but I have

1:55:44

to make sure that they don't get me for it. An

1:55:47

elephant trainer in India, and he's working next to

1:55:49

this elephant. And he's just working next to

1:55:51

the elephant, doing his thing. And this elephant just decides that

1:55:54

today ain't his day. And the

1:55:56

elephant just knocks him over and crushes his pelvis. And

1:55:59

then it's like, that's not good. So it pushes

1:56:01

his foot on the guy's

1:56:03

head and just flattens them and it's all

1:56:05

on video. Oh my god It's well actually Jamie

1:56:07

on there is this one Picture

1:56:11

of it might even say yeah It

1:56:13

says elephant dead and it's just a picture of a

1:56:15

guy his gun is broken in half and his head

1:56:17

is flattened And that's in India that

1:56:19

the elephant just they just say that in the guy who's

1:56:22

just like enough is enough Well, I

1:56:24

mean people torture elephants man. Yeah. Oh,

1:56:26

that's the guy. Oh boy. Yeah. Oh Oh

1:56:32

Yeah Hey,

1:56:35

you want the good stuff or not? Give

1:56:38

it all to me guys show me the arrows and the guys I'll

1:56:41

show that the one next to that one is

1:56:43

the elephant stepping on the guy if you want

1:56:45

Okay, I'm here while I'm here. It's important people

1:56:47

should know not to not to go not to

1:56:49

be people think elephants are cuddly They're not they're

1:56:51

not to be messed with Just

1:56:53

decided he's out enough this one's horrible cuz

1:56:55

it's not quick It's not quick

1:56:57

But like see this elephant is not you

1:57:00

know He's probably around this elephant every day and it

1:57:02

doesn't look like he's you see what he's doing with

1:57:04

the suit is doing He's poking the all that shit's

1:57:06

annoying. Yeah, and self is gone. You know what? That's

1:57:08

enough look So

1:57:12

at this point He's already broken

1:57:14

at this point. I mean his pelvis

1:57:16

is gone even if he lived oh everything's

1:57:19

just getting crushed and Oh

1:57:25

My god That's

1:57:28

like that's that you just had enough. Oh,

1:57:31

this is horrible, man Just

1:57:34

stomping this guy. He's already dead. Yeah,

1:57:36

it's dead now. Oh my god. He's

1:57:38

so flat. That's so crazy He's

1:57:43

picking him up in his mouth. I mean this elephant is

1:57:45

angry. Oh My

1:57:48

god, this guy's so dead But

1:57:50

I mean that's not even a big elephant and this other

1:57:52

guy runs in to stop it. Are you out of your

1:57:54

fucking mind? But that elephant's

1:57:57

probably tired of wearing that fucking stupid outfit to

1:57:59

yeah Poked out with a stick. Yep.

1:58:01

What's and that's probably like a 5,000 pound Asian

1:58:04

elephant Whereas the largest elephant largest African elephant

1:58:06

was something around 24,000 pounds. Oh my god

1:58:10

Yeah, these are these are you know? 18

1:58:13

wheelers, they're huge. Yeah, and what's fucked up

1:58:15

about that is like when You

1:58:18

have tribes or towns or villages of

1:58:20

people that are growing things. Yeah, and

1:58:22

the elephants find it They

1:58:24

just like sorry Yeah, that's really

1:58:26

tough because there's not enough jungle for

1:58:28

the elephants and then yeah, turn

1:58:31

down an entire field full of pine Yeah,

1:58:33

they're like no, this is my pineapple. These

1:58:35

are my pine. Yeah, they don't have any

1:58:37

understanding of ownership So these are pineapples that

1:58:39

are on the ground. No one's eating them Of course, I'm

1:58:41

gonna eat them and they can eat

1:58:43

all the pineapples and so now everybody starves and no

1:58:45

one can stop them People come out there throw rocks

1:58:47

at them. They'll push your house over they don't Oh,

1:58:51

yeah, let's stomp you into the fucking dirt. They don't

1:58:53

give a shit. Can I say can't say my favorite elephant

1:58:55

story for sure so I started doing work

1:58:57

with this this private

1:59:00

game reserve in Africa called Buffalo Clue and it's

1:59:02

these incredible people Warren and Wendy Rippon and they

1:59:04

I Started going over there because

1:59:06

they were using post 9-11 veterans to protect their

1:59:09

elephants and rhinos But they're

1:59:11

elephants they found out they call it

1:59:13

the hallcroft herd they they found out

1:59:15

that some Saudi prince had elephants In

1:59:18

this reserve and they weren't irrigating it so the elephants

1:59:20

were dying So they went and they

1:59:22

did a flight over and they saw dead elephants They saw

1:59:25

dead animals and there was I think there was I

1:59:27

think there was 10 or 11 elephants that were still alive And

1:59:31

so they went to the South African court.

1:59:33

They repossessed the elephant herd The

1:59:36

owners of the reserve that I work with they went

1:59:38

with a helicopter you circle it around They

1:59:40

got the elephants together. They darted the whole

1:59:42

family at once all 11 elephants got

1:59:45

them on trucks like semi lucid There's kind

1:59:47

of a wake got them onto trucks Transported

1:59:50

them to Buffalo Clue where they're gonna be safe

1:59:53

Released them and they said that

1:59:55

when these elephants woke up and came off the

1:59:57

trucks and now they're in a private game reserve

2:00:00

are gonna be safe the rest of their lives. He

2:00:02

said they just exploded. They went

2:00:05

flying into the water, started drinking,

2:00:07

playing, bathing, just eating everything. They

2:00:09

rearranged the entire ecosystem and

2:00:12

one of the females was pregnant and they didn't

2:00:14

know that the female was pregnant. Wow. And

2:00:16

so these people are doing this crazy work where

2:00:18

they're protecting black rhinos, which are critically

2:00:21

endangered, elephants, white rhinos, all

2:00:23

this stuff, and they're doing it through hunting.

2:00:25

They're doing it where they have hunting, they

2:00:28

have a reserve that is fenced in because South

2:00:30

Africa everything's fenced in, but the elephants

2:00:32

and the rhinos, and you're keeping, at this point, we're

2:00:34

keeping black rhinos on

2:00:37

the brink of extinction. We're keeping them from going extinct. But

2:00:40

it's like you go there and these elephants are

2:00:42

so happy because they're living in a place

2:00:44

where they're free and they have a wild. And they

2:00:47

have food. And they have as much food as they

2:00:49

want. They have like 50,000 acres. What

2:00:51

a dream for an elephant to get rescued. To get

2:00:53

rescued. You're like, oh, fuck. You see a helicopter and

2:00:55

you're like, oh shit. There's no water here, everyone's dying,

2:00:58

and then all of a sudden you're in this bountiful

2:01:00

place. In this bountiful place. That's pretty dope. And it's

2:01:02

funny too because talking about the people, the

2:01:06

anti-hunting people, and it's like this is a place

2:01:08

where very, very different reality than the Amazon, but

2:01:11

where the

2:01:13

owner said to me, he was like, no

2:01:15

one's gonna pay you $30,000 to take a picture of a

2:01:17

buffalo. He's like, people pay $30,000 to

2:01:19

hunt a buffalo all the time. And

2:01:22

so they use sustainable hunting of the zebras and

2:01:24

the buffalo and the impalas and stuff like that

2:01:26

to protect the entire

2:01:29

ecosystem. So you have leopards and elephants and

2:01:31

black rhinos, white rhinos, and so you have

2:01:33

tourism and hunting side by side in this

2:01:35

incredible game reserve. It's wild. Well, unfortunately, the

2:01:37

only way where people really appreciate animals is

2:01:39

to make them a commodity. Whether you make

2:01:41

them a commodity for going on safari, whether

2:01:44

you make them a commodity for hunting them.

2:01:46

Because before that, when people were just poaching

2:01:48

and doing market hunting, they were on the

2:01:50

brink of extinction. There's a lot of animals

2:01:52

there, a lot of the undulates that were

2:01:54

on the brink of extinction. There's

2:01:58

animals in Texas that you can hunt. that

2:02:01

are endangered in their native lands.

2:02:03

But that they've bred them in Texas.

2:02:06

Yeah, they bred some, there's more tigers

2:02:08

in Texas than there are in all

2:02:10

the wild of the world, just in

2:02:12

people's yards. Yeah, I just met somebody

2:02:14

that had Elens on her property. This

2:02:16

giant. Elens is very common. Huge fucking

2:02:18

animals, crazy horns. They're cool looking. But

2:02:20

these wild game reserves in Africa, people

2:02:23

go over there and they shoot these

2:02:25

animals and then that meat gets donated

2:02:27

to these tribes. And this

2:02:29

friend of mine who went over there to do that

2:02:31

was saying that they went to this school, which was

2:02:33

like, it's, to call it a school.

2:02:35

It's just, it's dirt floors,

2:02:38

you know, no windows. It's just this

2:02:40

building where kids go and the food

2:02:42

they get is all canned. So they

2:02:45

have canned foods and so they brought

2:02:47

them hundreds of pounds of meat that

2:02:49

they, and they, everybody went crazy. The

2:02:51

whole village comes, they get baskets of

2:02:53

it, fresh meat, and it does

2:02:56

help, it helps. But really what's fucked is

2:02:59

that people live like that. Like really the

2:03:01

way to get people out of that situation

2:03:03

when you have these insanely impoverished countries where

2:03:05

you can take advantage of people and have

2:03:08

a mind for cobalt is to try to

2:03:10

elevate the standard of living for those people.

2:03:12

Try to bring them power and give them

2:03:14

irrigation and give them fresh water

2:03:17

and figure out a

2:03:19

way to get them resources. Yeah,

2:03:21

and I mean that's exactly what we're doing in the

2:03:23

Amazon is give the loggers a better fucking job. They

2:03:25

don't want to be loggers. Nobody wants to

2:03:27

be a gold miner. Nobody wants to be

2:03:30

a poacher in Africa. And so instead. I mean a lot

2:03:32

of people want to be gold miners. Not this kind of

2:03:34

gold miner trust me. But that's

2:03:36

not gold mining. This is sand mining for

2:03:38

bits of gold. Like this is what they

2:03:40

cut down the Amazon for. Right, but gold

2:03:42

mining in Alaska, probably pretty fun. Imagine

2:03:44

being part of the miner 49ers that came over here

2:03:46

in 1849. That's different, you find

2:03:49

a nugget of gold. That's different,

2:03:51

that's a whole different thing. Have you seen the

2:03:53

movie Sisu? It's

2:03:55

like a John Wick movie from World

2:03:57

War II. It's about this crazy.

2:04:00

soldier who becomes a gold miner and

2:04:02

he finds gold and He's

2:04:04

you know retired done with the war

2:04:07

and then he's hiking out with his

2:04:09

gold He's riding out with his gold

2:04:11

and the Nazis. Yeah show up and he has to

2:04:13

kill This is one of those movies over you can

2:04:15

kill everybody like it's awesome. I can't I bet you

2:04:17

can I can't I've

2:04:20

got a reason it's okay in the matrix is because

2:04:22

they're in the matrix Right every other movie where one

2:04:24

guy like the taken where he can like take down

2:04:26

a room full of taking sort of ridiculous But this

2:04:28

guy you kind of believe it. Yeah. Yeah,

2:04:30

it's pretty fucking bad I mean this guy's

2:04:32

like covered in scars his whole body's been

2:04:34

war his whole but his whole life. Yeah

2:04:38

Give it a chance. This is this is the guy

2:04:40

wait Who's the

2:04:42

actor that's not Brendan Gleason is no

2:04:44

it's I don't know I don't know his name, but

2:04:46

it's not American movie Let's

2:04:48

look at the look at the trailer with

2:04:51

a knife through this fucking movie rules. Yeah

2:04:53

It rules Yeah,

2:04:57

that's the gentleman's name. I've never heard of

2:04:59

him Yeah, but he's fucking awesome not the

2:05:01

foot the farthest I can go of violence

2:05:03

was Peaky Blinders I oh my

2:05:05

god, what a show yo what a show

2:05:07

yo what a show I have so much

2:05:09

trouble Not just talking like Alfie Solomon's my

2:05:11

entire life. I Fucking

2:05:14

love that character. I thought of the

2:05:16

Peaky Blinders off Yeah That

2:05:19

and then my newest thing is the hundred-foot wave

2:05:22

if you haven't watched this thing man No, what's

2:05:24

oh my god surfers Garrett McNamara the other you

2:05:26

know the wave in in Portugal.

2:05:29

Yes, right It's the dude and

2:05:31

his wife who discovered it, you

2:05:34

know They tell the whole story where like, you know, he's

2:05:36

looking for big waves They're all chasing big waves like point-break

2:05:38

shit like, you know, and then I

2:05:40

think they get an email from someone she she gets an

2:05:42

email from someone she's like we should go check out this

2:05:44

wave and This dude

2:05:46

goes first of all wave porn all day

2:05:49

long Such a

2:05:51

fucking good show and I'm

2:05:53

looking at this going I want to make I want to

2:05:55

make a show one day about how we made our national

2:05:57

park How the fuck did they document this dude is so

2:05:59

insane to do that so insane this

2:06:01

is this is some of the best shit

2:06:04

I've ever seen I'm riveted by this also

2:06:06

I just can watch that wave again and

2:06:08

again and again those guys who do that

2:06:10

are different humans but this is it's it's

2:06:13

the cinematography it's the storytelling no

2:06:19

injuries the injuries are brutal I mean

2:06:21

you're talking about 70 foot wave oh

2:06:23

my god the weight of that water must

2:06:26

be insane they literally went looking for the

2:06:28

biggest wave and then just like that old

2:06:30

tree in Ireland this has like become the

2:06:32

thing for that town right come there for the wave

2:06:35

now how many people die there every year they

2:06:37

have a pretty good safety system they have like a jet ski

2:06:39

rescue system where like if you see if I if I tow

2:06:41

you onto a wave I feel like I

2:06:43

know it now from watching the show if I tow

2:06:45

you onto a wave and you catch this epic wave

2:06:48

but then you get trucked and you're under 40 feet

2:06:50

of foam and you're getting just bashed under there when

2:06:52

that wave goes to the shore I have

2:06:54

like 10 seconds to race in there with my jet

2:06:57

ski and you got to grab on before the next

2:06:59

wave comes and if I don't if you don't grab

2:07:01

the ski I got to leave you so

2:07:04

as you're watching this show you're like do

2:07:06

they die do they die okay holy shit

2:07:09

and the whole time they're just showing you

2:07:11

this beautiful wave porn constant waves and you're

2:07:13

just like this is this is and these

2:07:16

people wake up every day and have the same affliction that

2:07:18

I have they're just like how do I get my adrenaline

2:07:20

it's like I feel like I can relate you ever

2:07:26

meet those dudes they're so calm because

2:07:28

they're they're always coming down from it they're like

2:07:30

oh man there's no waves today just like when

2:07:32

you meet when you meet like certain veterans they're

2:07:34

just like what man look we're not getting shot

2:07:37

at today so it's all good yeah it's fascinating

2:07:39

how calm they are Kelly Slater yeah have you

2:07:41

had him in here yeah I've had him one

2:07:43

he's awesome you've had Laird Hamilton yep

2:07:45

Laird Hamilton is a good friend of mine

2:07:47

he does that shit too that's all these

2:07:50

guys are there they're all chill dudes like

2:07:52

real serious people yeah you know yeah Laird

2:07:54

shows up in there they have him like

2:07:57

being like yeah that fucking wave is crazy

2:08:00

With his huge neck, he's just like, dude. You

2:08:04

ever see his workout where he takes weights in the

2:08:06

pool? And walks on the bottom of the pool? He's

2:08:08

a fucking maniac. Yeah, no, he's always been just, I

2:08:10

mean, you just look at him. He's

2:08:12

built like an action figure. He's always been incredible.

2:08:15

No days off with that guy. In

2:08:17

that world of just wanting to constantly get

2:08:20

on the biggest waves, it's just such a

2:08:22

nutty proposition. I totally understand it though. I

2:08:24

think it's to do something that that's, it's

2:08:26

like, you know, you can ride a dragon.

2:08:29

Yo, you know, or, you know, Elon's like, I

2:08:31

want to go to Mars. Like somebody tells you,

2:08:33

look at the big mountain of water. You

2:08:36

can fly on that. I'm

2:08:39

in. Sign me up. I mean, I

2:08:41

feel like that's snowboarding and snowboarding is chiller. You're not like taking

2:08:43

your life in your hands, but like when you're going as fast

2:08:45

as you can on a snowboard down a mountain, like

2:08:48

man, I am fucking surfing a mountain right now.

2:08:50

Yeah, it is flying. It is. It's

2:08:52

an apex of life. I feel like that when I jump

2:08:54

on an Anaconda, I'm like, I am going to die. I'm

2:08:56

on a snowboard, but I ski and when I ski, I'm

2:08:59

like, don't get hurt, don't get hurt, don't get hurt, don't

2:09:01

get hurt. Didn't get hurt. Yeah.

2:09:03

Yeah. Don't need a tree.

2:09:05

I've just been injured so many times in my

2:09:07

life that I see people falling down. The last

2:09:09

time I skied to, I did wipe out pretty

2:09:11

hard. She skis. I don't like that your legs,

2:09:13

I feel like I'm going to tie my legs

2:09:15

into a, into a, into a knot. Yeah,

2:09:18

but I don't like being attached to that board. Nope. Because

2:09:20

when you hit ice and you fall

2:09:22

forward, that face smack head first, I

2:09:24

know a dude who got fucked up

2:09:26

on a snowboard that way. The

2:09:29

snowboard went up and he landed head first

2:09:32

and just got wrecked out cold. You

2:09:34

know, friends had to find him. Yeah. I

2:09:37

teach, I teach, somehow I've, I've taught all my friends how

2:09:40

to snowboard and I've never had anybody get hurt too

2:09:42

bad. It's always like, you know, that's crazy. Bunny Hill to

2:09:44

like, you know, whatever. Shane, my friend Shane Dorian that

2:09:46

I was just talking about, he destroyed his knee snowboarding. Yeah.

2:09:49

Slammed into a tree, tore it apart. Had

2:09:51

to get reconstructive surgery. And you know, think

2:09:53

about that guy's whole life is riding waves.

2:09:56

Shane Dorian. Yeah. Yeah.

2:10:00

Awesome server yeah big wave server and

2:10:02

so you know how to get his knee reconstructed as