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really is an escalation. She

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then showed the police Ben's collection

12:05

of pornographic photos that showed nude

12:07

women with artificial limbs. She threatened

12:09

to expose Ben's intimate secrets. Ben

12:13

will end up confronting Narsi about the

12:15

home invasion in a recorded call. He

12:17

said, could you tell me why you

12:19

felt it was necessary to have these

12:21

guys come in and almost kill me?

12:24

And Narsi responded, I don't know

12:26

what you're talking about. I just cannot talk,

12:28

okay? So Narsi's

12:30

involved with this. I mean, obviously she

12:32

didn't untie him and then she took

12:34

off with the safe. But

12:37

he has to prove to police that

12:39

she is the one that orchestrated this.

12:42

He's trying to get her to admit to it. I

12:45

think they're both kind of terrible people. I

12:48

can't take sides here. Yeah,

12:51

it almost feels like revenge. You

12:54

know, obviously Narsi feels like Ben wronged her, so

12:56

this is how she gets him back. But

12:58

in the end, Ben agrees not to press

13:01

charges against his wife. And

13:03

he and Narsi reconcile. They seem

13:05

to reconcile anyway. And they

13:07

stayed together until 2009. April

13:11

5th of 2009, Ben

13:14

Novak found his mother, Bernice,

13:16

dead in her Fort Lauderdale home.

13:19

She was 87 years old. According

13:23

to CBS, Bernice lived her senior

13:25

years in an upscale community. A

13:28

few of her neighbors knew about her

13:30

past. Her home was full

13:32

of paintings and expensive jewelry. And

13:35

other items like Frank Sinatra's grand

13:37

piano. A neighbor saw

13:39

that her garage door was open overnight

13:42

and called Ben, who came over and

13:44

found her. Ben told

13:46

the police about an earlier fall she

13:48

had. Bernice was found face

13:51

down in a pool of blood in

13:53

the hallway between the garage and kitchen.

13:56

And investigators determined that she had

13:58

died from an accidental murder. fall.

14:01

Despite all of the evidence

14:03

that suggested she may have

14:05

been attacked, she had

14:07

serious head injuries, a broken

14:09

jaw, a broken finger, her

14:11

teeth were also bashed in,

14:14

there was blood found in almost

14:16

every room of the house, and

14:18

blood on the seat of Bernice's

14:21

car, investigators thought she stood up

14:23

and fell down repeatedly. I'm just

14:26

imagining that whole Michael Peterson, Kathleen Peterson,

14:28

where she's at the bottom of the

14:30

stairs and they do the weird reenactment

14:33

of her getting up and hitting her

14:35

head over and over again, it's just

14:37

completely unrealistic. Detectives

14:40

did not collect fingerprints or DNA at

14:43

the time. There were no

14:45

signs of forced entry. So

14:48

Bernice's death was declared an accident.

14:52

And right there, Aaron, I think

14:55

is the beginning of the end of

14:57

all of this because looking at

14:59

this scene, blood in every room, blood

15:02

in the car, how does

15:04

one fall multiple times and do all

15:06

of this damage to themselves? I understand

15:09

she's older. I understand

15:11

that a fall can cause

15:13

major damage, but at no point did

15:15

she pick up a phone and call

15:17

for help. She just kept moving around

15:19

and falling down. It's kind of

15:22

unbelievable to me. Yeah.

15:24

And Ben Jr., he seemed to be

15:27

suspicious because he said there was a

15:29

glass of white wine on a table

15:31

inside the home. And he said his

15:33

mother did not drink white wine. So

15:35

right there, he thinks this is just

15:38

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15:42

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company hosted a weekend convention for

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Rybrook, New York, with over a

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thousand employees. said

24:00

Ben was not tied up when

24:02

she left. But obviously, there's some

24:05

knowledge about their relationship that would

24:07

lend itself to, hey, wait a

24:09

minute, maybe Narsi set him up

24:12

and that would leave him in a

24:14

vulnerable position. There's something to that,

24:17

right? I mean, anyone that gets

24:19

into bondage, you have to have a lot

24:21

of trust in your partner. And

24:24

there's a little bit of a

24:26

discrepancy here because the investigators say

24:28

it appears that he was attacked

24:30

while he was asleep, yet

24:33

he is tied up in a way where

24:35

Narsi's saying this is what he liked. He

24:37

liked to be tied up this way. Obviously,

24:40

you're not going to be tied up

24:42

that way voluntarily if you're asleep because

24:44

that's not how that works. But

24:47

I'm looking at this and thinking he got a

24:49

call at 654 and then she's

24:51

leaving the room 15 minutes later. Not sure

24:53

he can

24:57

fall asleep that quickly, but he

24:59

obviously was attacked while in bed,

25:02

tied up, and then murdered. But

25:05

it's also possible, and I think what this

25:07

is hinting at is that possibly Narsi, if

25:10

she was responsible, could have talked

25:12

Ben into this, had him tied

25:14

up, and then let someone in.

25:17

Exactly. I think that's the more probable

25:19

situation. And every time I read something,

25:21

he was attacked while he was asleep.

25:23

I just think, what? That doesn't make

25:25

sense. Narsi

25:28

obviously was a suspect, but the police

25:30

at that point didn't have enough evidence

25:32

to arrest her. So she

25:35

returned to her home in Florida.

25:37

And around this time, Florida law

25:39

enforcement informed New York detectives about

25:41

the 2002 robbery. So this

25:43

whole case is coming together. There

25:46

was a retired Miami officer named

25:48

Charlie Saradar. He was also a

25:50

friend of Ben's. Mentioned the suspicious

25:52

death of Bernice Novak to New

25:54

York detectives. And detective Terrence

25:56

Wilson contacted the Fort Lauderdale police

25:59

and said, May

56:01

of 2013, Gonzales was

56:03

sentenced to 10 years in prison

56:05

for the murders of Ben and

56:07

Bernice Novak. And September

56:09

12, 2013, Garcia was sentenced to 17 and a

56:11

half years in prison. This

56:16

was less than federal guidelines prescribed

56:19

because Garcia had cooperated with the

56:21

prosecution and received a

56:23

lesser sentence. 17

56:25

and a half years seems like

56:29

a fair sentence if you're

56:31

cooperating. The 10-year sentence

56:33

for Gonzales seems a little lacking

56:36

to me, but the

56:38

life sentences definitely are justified here.

56:42

Narcy and Christoph Ball's appeals were denied

56:44

on August 19, 2015. I

56:49

want to make a quick comment

56:51

about the defense saying May had orchestrated

56:53

all of this and them saying that

56:55

she was to blame. I mean, is

56:58

she Rosal Ghul's daughter, like in Dark

57:00

Knight Rises, where she's orchestrated this whole

57:02

thing and framed other people? It's just

57:05

so unbelievable to me that I feel

57:07

like sometimes there should

57:09

be perjury charges for things

57:12

set in court. And

57:14

this is one of the times where I think

57:16

May could have sued for slander

57:18

or something. I can't believe

57:21

the amount of accusations thrown

57:23

at the daughter who was just

57:26

trying to help with

57:28

the case and had been, I'm

57:30

assuming, abused and neglected by her

57:32

mother. Yeah, it

57:34

really makes you wonder if you can do

57:36

that. My understanding is

57:39

you can possibly do that. I

57:41

don't know of any case where it has happened,

57:44

but maybe that's something for us to look into.

57:47

Anyway, I guess all the cases

57:49

we've covered, I don't know if

57:51

I've seen too many like this

57:53

case where you had Narcy Novak

57:56

as probably one of the most greedy

57:58

people I'd ever heard