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Big Fib! Can you spot the

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light? The Big Fib! Some pigs

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can fly. The Big Fib! But if you

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ask me why, can you trust the answer?

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Oh, the Big Fib! From Omaha,

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Nebraska, this is The Big

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Fib. And now, here's

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your host, Deborah Goldstein.

1:20

Welcome to The Big Fib, the

1:22

game show where kids choose between

1:24

the strengthening, stress-relieving flexibility of truth

1:27

and the dislocated musculoskeletal

1:30

pain of lies. I'm

1:33

your host, Deborah Goldstein, and in the studio

1:35

today is our sound effects robot, Lisa. Breaker,

1:38

breaker, one nine. This is Stratus Sounder 500.

1:41

Do you read me? Over. Are you talking

1:43

to somebody on a CB radio?

1:46

Just a minute, Deborah. Catch your ears on

1:48

there, good buddy. Over. Copy

1:53

that. Catch you on the flip side. Over.

1:56

Sorry about that, Deborah. My buddy, Sonic a

1:58

Soundwave, was just rem- reminding me to play

2:00

the listener question. Oh, I

2:02

see. Alrighty, here we go!

2:05

Breaker breaker, play the listener question breaker. Hey

2:07

Lisa, my name is Colton. I'm a huge fan

2:09

of your podcast. I was wondering, do

2:12

you have a big house? Or do you live in a

2:14

small apartment? Thanks for your

2:16

question, Colton. Yes, I live in a

2:18

modest dwelling. Some might call

2:20

it an apartment, but I just call it

2:23

home. Yes, it's a very lovely

2:25

place. Yep, but I

2:27

am definitely thinking about finding something

2:29

a little bigger. I'm in

2:31

the market for a mansion. A

2:34

mansion? Like an enormous house? Yeah,

2:36

maybe a medium-sized mansion. Just a

2:38

house with enough rooms for all

2:40

of my collections. Like my envelope

2:42

collection and my pencil shavings collection.

2:44

Oh, my toothpaste cap collection. Oh,

2:46

and my collection of mailboxes. Mailboxes?

2:48

Yeah, that's correct. I have mailboxes

2:50

from all over the world. My

2:53

favorite one being the one that

2:55

was bolted into the sidewalk on

2:57

23rd and Main Street. That one

2:59

took me, oh man, it took

3:01

me hours to pull out of

3:03

the ground. But boy, was it

3:05

worth it. Still has some mail in it, Deborah.

3:08

Oh, okay. That's illegal, Lisa. You

3:10

can't interfere with the mail or

3:12

with mailboxes. I can't? No.

3:14

Oh, no. No. Don't send me back to

3:16

that place, Deborah. Don't send me back to

3:18

jail. I can't do it. You

3:21

know what? I'll just put them back where

3:23

I found them. Good idea, good idea. And

3:25

then I guess I won't really need

3:27

that much more space, so I'll probably stay where I am and

3:30

maybe circle back to the whole mansion idea in the future. Yes,

3:32

that is an excellent thought. So while we're

3:35

living in the present and not the future,

3:37

why don't we focus on our game and

3:39

let everyone know how it works? Okay, just

3:41

to be clear, the coppers have nothing on

3:44

me. Nothing. Every

3:46

week we bring on two grownups. One

3:48

is an expert. The other... Oh, this

3:51

is weird. The other one's a liar. Did you know about

3:53

this, Deborah? I'm afraid I did, yes. Oh my gosh. And

3:55

it's the job of a human child to help us figure

3:58

out how to make a living. What

10:00

does it take to get certified? Well,

10:03

it really starts with you practicing yoga

10:05

for as long as you can, enjoying

10:07

it and learning from great teachers. And

10:10

after you go through that process, your

10:13

interest deepens and you feel more keen

10:15

to maybe learn more. And

10:17

it makes you feel like you want to

10:20

pass on what you're learning to others. So

10:22

that's when you find a really great

10:24

school and you train under brilliant teachers,

10:26

they teach you more. You

10:29

deepen your knowledge around the philosophy

10:31

and the really broad subject that

10:33

is yoga until you have

10:35

that requisite knowledge, that experience to be able

10:37

to go out and teach others. That's

10:40

kind of what it takes to get trained. Oh, and

10:42

you need some insurance as well.

10:44

Very important. Is that because people get

10:46

hurt? So it's a physical activity yoga

10:48

and you have to have your kind

10:50

of public liability insurance so that you're

10:52

able to go and teach in private

10:54

venues, studios, schools, wherever you're teaching. But

10:56

should anyone get hurt, they'll be okay.

10:58

It'll be fine. Okay. That's

11:01

called covering your bases in baseball talk,

11:03

Casey. Okay. Take

11:05

it away, Casey. This question is for Byron. How

11:08

many different types of yoga are there and can

11:10

you give me a few names? To

11:12

be frank, it depends on who you talk to, but

11:14

there's about 20 different types of yoga.

11:17

And some examples are

11:19

kundalini, ashdanga, vinyasa, flow,

11:21

sinatra. Canole. Canole, I

11:23

don't think so. You just eat a cannoli and

11:25

then you lay down and you said, ah, I

11:27

shouldn't have eaten that cannoli. Okay,

11:31

Casey, back to you. This

11:33

question is for both of you. Is

11:35

there any yoga competitions? And if so,

11:37

what are the rules? So there are,

11:40

and they're very similar to CrossFit competitions.

11:42

Yogis gather and compete in a series of

11:44

stations designed to test their ability to hold

11:47

very challenging poses for a very long period

11:49

of time. They move on to another station.

11:52

And during that, they are judged from the sidelines on

11:54

their ability to hold the pose and perfect it. Let's

11:57

get ready to relax. I

12:02

think there definitely have been competitions, certainly

12:04

in India, it's a kind of demonstration

12:06

off where you get certain yogis who

12:08

are very adept at doing certain poses,

12:11

but they're doing it less for the

12:13

competition aspect and more for the kind

12:15

of check me out and check out

12:17

this pose and look what it looks

12:19

like. But I think when

12:21

Bikram came along, he tried to introduce

12:23

a kind of competition element to what

12:25

he was doing, but generally competition isn't

12:27

really a feature in yoga because we're

12:29

trying just to kind of connect with

12:31

ourselves. So rather than checking out everyone

12:33

else in the room and thinking, I'm

12:35

going to do this pose better than

12:37

you, which isn't really a kind of

12:39

yoga mindset, you're more about kind of

12:41

looking internally, looking at what's going on

12:43

for you. So I guess

12:45

the competition is sort of with yourself. Deep.

12:48

I hate competing with myself because I

12:50

always lose. You always lose to yourself?

12:52

Yeah, myself is so good and I'm

12:54

not that good, so I always lose

12:56

to myself. But that

12:59

means you win because you're losing to you.

13:01

Who is you? Hey, I won. Deep

13:05

thoughts. This question is for Byron. What

13:07

is the main purpose of yoga? The

13:09

main purpose is to build internal strength,

13:11

your flexibility, harmony, and it's all through

13:13

movement and breathwork. And one of the

13:15

interesting things about yoga is that it's

13:17

actually taught to militaries around the

13:20

world in case their soldiers get captured behind

13:22

enemy lines and it's a way to keep

13:24

themselves centered while they're

13:26

in captivity. Wow, did not

13:28

know that. Fascinating. Very good.

13:31

And I had one other question too,

13:33

and that was for Jamie, and you

13:35

said you teach children yoga. Do you

13:37

find that children pick yoga up easier

13:39

than adults do? Definitely, yeah.

13:41

Children have got a real sense of playfulness. So

13:44

and you really need that in yoga. You need

13:46

to be able to be up for things and

13:48

go check this out in my body. It's really

13:50

cool to move it in these shapes and kids

13:53

are just a lot more up for that. And

13:55

not only that, I think just inherently when our

13:57

bodies are younger, we have a lot more flexibility.

20:00

You hit it out of the

20:02

park! Jamie Amor is a kids

20:04

yoga expert who writes and presents

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Cosmic Kids Yoga on both YouTube

20:08

and the Cosmic Kids app. Jamie

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has been making fun kids yoga videos

20:13

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over 355 million views. You

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can find out all about Cosmic

20:23

Kids at cosmickids.com or check out

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20:28

to try some of Jamie's yoga

20:30

adventures. Exciting! Jamie, we have

20:32

so many questions for you. So many.

20:34

So many, both about Cosmic Kids and

20:36

yoga and all the things. Let's do

20:39

some fact checking first just to get

20:41

to the bottom of all of this

20:43

lying. So tell us, Jamie, what did

20:45

you hear Byron say that was rotten

20:47

to the core? Oh, there

20:50

were some real corkers in there. It was

20:52

brilliant, Byron. I loved it. At one point,

20:54

I couldn't work out whether you said a

20:56

ganatra yoga or you said sinatra yoga. And

20:58

I was thinking, is there some sort of

21:00

like crooner kind of style going on in

21:03

your ganatra system? But I thought that was

21:05

kind of fun. And then the soldiers thing

21:07

I thought was quite interesting. First time I've

21:09

heard of that. Same

21:12

here. All right, Byron, let's move to

21:14

you. In what ways did you omit

21:17

the truth? Jamie's right. I did make

21:19

up the soldier one. I also did

21:21

say sinatra. And then I think I

21:23

also lied about the full splits pose

21:25

in yoga and said it was named

21:28

after a son Wukong. And that is

21:30

incorrect. But it is after a monkey

21:32

god, is it not? Yes, Hanumanasana is

21:34

the pose. Then it's Hanuman. I don't

21:36

know who Wukong was. I

21:38

said son Wukong because of the storied

21:41

journey to the west. And one of

21:43

his helpers is Hanuman. Oh, right. OK.

21:45

So there was a connection. OK. It

21:47

wasn't a total fib. I like it.

21:49

All right. Let's go through some of

21:51

these two just to make sure we

21:53

get everything correct. The flower is a

21:56

lotus flower, but there was something else

21:58

that you said. I said cat. Cactus

22:00

lotus flower. Cactus. Does the lotus flower come

22:02

from a cactus? No, not as far as

22:04

I know. And

22:06

yoga you said means union. Oh no,

22:09

I said oneness. It means union. But I

22:11

said oneness. Yoga means union, that's correct.

22:13

But oneness kind of sounds close, so we

22:15

could have been fooled by that. The purpose

22:17

of the very first yoga pose, do you

22:19

know what that was, Jamie? It's to meditate.

22:22

Yeah, and that was what they needed to

22:24

come up with a way of being able

22:26

to sit very still to clear the mind.

22:28

Yes. And it was felt that

22:30

they needed to train their bodies first in

22:32

order to have that serenity to allow their

22:34

minds to be enlightened. That makes sense, yes.

22:37

And astronauts, do yoga in

22:39

space, is that correct? They

22:42

do, you are absolutely right. And

22:44

yeah, I was recently working with

22:46

an astronaut called Samantha Christopher-Etti, who

22:48

has been up on the ISS

22:50

practicing yoga. And she has

22:52

been using lots of elastic and straps to

22:54

make sure that she doesn't float away while she's

22:57

in her kind of downward dog or whatever.

22:59

Super cool. I bet it's much

23:02

more challenging, yeah, when you're in space.

23:04

Yeah, for sure. And last

23:06

one, the type of animal that climbs on

23:08

you for a fun, trendy new yoga. I

23:10

don't think it's puppies, is it, Jamie? It's

23:12

toddlers. Toddlers, oh, they definitely climb

23:15

on you. Although I love

23:17

the idea of doing yoga with puppies. I mean,

23:19

that would just be brilliant, wouldn't it? But you

23:21

could get your dog training in at the same

23:23

time, but it might be a bit messy. It's

23:25

goats, actually. People love doing goat

23:27

yoga. So the little goats love hopping up

23:29

on your back when you're in some sort

23:31

of tabletop position. Yeah,

23:34

it's gorgeous. Oh my goodness.

23:37

Very good. Well, we've come

23:39

to the savasana of our final

23:41

resting pose of our show. Thanks

23:44

to our contestant, Casey, our guru

23:46

of fact-finding. Thank you to

23:48

our expert and liar, Jamie and Byron.

23:50

And thanks to Lisa, who hath a

23:52

plethora of sounds. And of course, many

23:54

thanks to our listeners tuning into the

23:56

Big Fib, where our mantra is, telling

23:58

the truth is is good karma.

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