6:00

Ohio State has just gone out the window

6:02

and it's become yeah this

6:04

guy can't you know the old Harbaugh born on

6:07

third base thing he can't win a

6:09

big game and I'm thinking okay well

6:11

the record is the record that is true but

6:13

they're not getting blown out in these games like

6:15

this this you know the Ohio State Michigan game

6:17

last year went right down to the wire this

6:19

game went right down to the wire if

6:22

they met Oregon again I wouldn't be like

6:24

Ohio State's got no chance in that game because of

6:27

Ryan Day what do you think yeah

6:29

again I'm not like giving up on Ohio

6:32

State you know I mean I was gonna

6:34

ask you this at some point you know

6:36

coming out of this but like Ohio

6:39

State going into this was my was you

6:41

know preseason pick to win the national title

6:43

it was my midseason pick if that's what

6:45

it was last week to win the national

6:47

title the only thing

6:50

that changed to me is I think Oregon is I

6:53

think Oregon is back to being better than what

6:55

I thought they were like I coming into the

6:57

air I thought they were a top three team

6:59

they didn't look like it going into this game

7:01

but they absolutely look like it yesterday by the

7:03

way it's like awesome atmosphere you know watching everything

7:05

like from the game you feel that energy you

7:08

and I both seen a lot of games and

7:10

awesome and that it's

7:12

a different kind of big ten but it's

7:14

it's big-time football having

7:16

said all that you know I still believe

7:18

Ryan Day is going to win a national

7:21

title this year because like hey how about

7:23

that I know

7:26

it's not crazy at all I give you credit

7:28

for not going to the like overreaction

7:31

the whole seasons over you know

7:34

as we are want to do but especially

7:36

in this system I don't want

7:38

to say you know it didn't

7:41

matter it does because now the

7:43

pressure is on like they want to get to Indianapolis

7:45

right they they don't have the up I don't think

7:47

they have room to stub their toe again they're gonna

7:50

play at Penn State that won't be an easy game

7:52

but if they get in the playoff obviously

7:54

with that talent they would have an excellent

7:57

shot to win the national title my

7:59

only Hesitation at this point though would be

8:01

me at defense didn't play great yesterday

8:05

Figure out what's going on there is will

8:07

Howard a national championship quarterback now

8:10

statistically 28

8:13

of 35 for 326 yards two

8:15

touchdowns no picks. That's a

8:17

really good performance Obviously it

8:19

helps when you have me I just on that

8:21

drive that what would have been the game winning

8:23

drive But you know didn't didn't get there It's

8:26

just like man the receivers like one

8:28

after oh Mecca Mecca bucca

8:30

gets this one Jeremiah Smith get even G

8:32

Scott their tight end got into it but

8:37

On that last drive first of all he fell

8:39

down on the first play right that sets them

8:41

back a little bit There

8:43

was a weird moment where Jeremiah Smith gets called for

8:45

by the way that changed the whole thing when he

8:48

got called for Offensive pass interference because they would have

8:50

been in field ball range If

8:52

that catch had stood He

8:54

he and maybe Brian day. I don't know thought

8:56

the clock was gonna stop after the penalty it

8:59

doesn't so They

9:01

wasted some time there and then of course his judgment on

9:03

that last play. It was like, huh? I Mean

9:06

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9:09

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9:11

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other huge game last night, and I got

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to be honest, we talked about this on

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11:44

going into number 13 LSU. I

11:50

thought, given what we've seen from Ole Miss,

11:52

not like that was impressive going in, but

11:54

I was like, oh, they're not losing this

11:56

game. I just, I didn't

11:58

feel like LSU's defense. on

16:00

the portal, they add all these guys on both

16:02

sides of the ball. You know, we've talked about

16:04

how like old misses, you know,

16:06

through their collective and everything else that it

16:09

is, you know, it's just, it's such a

16:11

different job and then it, then it, then

16:13

it was years ago, but

16:16

then you have, you know, again,

16:18

they lose to Kentucky at home. I don't

16:20

want to say that's an inexcusable loss, but there were a 15

16:22

and a half point favor. It was an inexcusable loss. What's

16:25

up? It wasn't inexcusable loss. So

16:28

where are we at? I mean, like, give me your,

16:30

give me your thoughts on lane Kiffin right now. As,

16:32

as a, as a

16:35

head coach, we know he's really good on social

16:37

media. Um, and we know

16:39

he's, you know, a good play caller, but

16:41

at the, the, as you said, the record

16:43

is kind of the record right now, especially

16:46

when it's against, you know, big

16:48

game opponents. I mean,

16:50

the funny thing is, right? He's known

16:52

as this offensive guru and they've never

16:54

really had a great defense there. Well,

16:58

the defense I would say has been better than the

17:00

offense this season. Um, the

17:02

defense is number three in the country. It's

17:05

doing what they hoped it would do. I

17:08

think, you know, even, even after last

17:11

season, I've, I've never fully bought in

17:13

on Jackson dart. He's very inconsistent and

17:16

it seems to mirror, you know, in these big

17:18

games, it's not just lane Kiffin. It's Jackson dart

17:20

who underwhelms. Here's what I would say though. Uh,

17:24

nobody, nobody outside of Texas

17:28

is got it all together in the SEC right now.

17:30

Bruce Bama, very fortunate,

17:32

very fortunate to escape with

17:34

a win yesterday against South

17:36

Carolina, I would

17:38

say, you know, Tennessee, who we were

17:40

very high on gets shut out in

17:43

the first half against Florida wins the

17:45

game in overtime. And even

17:47

Georgia, my preseason national

17:49

title team, what the heck?

17:51

They gave up 31 to Mississippi state. Now they did

17:53

have a big lead. So I don't

17:55

think, you know, it was ever never realistic. Mississippi Davis can

17:57

come back and win. That's the worst team in

17:59

the S. And they're,

18:01

you know, they got guys running open against

18:04

Georgia, which does not give me a lot

18:06

of confidence in them going into Texas. Uh,

18:11

Stu on, on Tennessee, this is, they fill it,

18:13

fit a little into the old miss category for

18:15

me where I was buying them even more than

18:17

I was buying, um, the

18:19

rebels as a team that I don't know if I thought

18:22

they could win the national title, but the

18:24

offense is been a dud, which is

18:27

surprising for Josh. I bought, if you

18:29

look statistically just an sec play, they're

18:32

11th in the conference

18:35

in offense and that's

18:37

nowhere near where we would expect them to be. Um,

18:40

Nico, who was a huge recruit and

18:42

I'm not saying he's won't live up

18:44

to it, but maybe we

18:46

got a little over

18:49

our skis on him because really in like, it

18:51

feels like the last month he

18:54

is, he is really looks like a work

18:56

in progress more than the guy who, um,

18:59

you know, as if was,

19:01

I don't want to say he was like a real

19:03

Heisman guy, but was like the, you know, the next

19:05

big thing. Cause right now, you know,

19:07

their offensive line is, is shaky. Um,

19:10

their passing game is honestly has been

19:12

pretty shaky. And I think that's

19:15

definitely a concern in the last, uh,

19:17

two games, he's thrown no touchdowns and

19:19

one interception and he's thrown for like

19:21

a total of like 300 yards. I

19:24

don't think he's had a 200 yard

19:26

passing game in over like a

19:29

month and a half now. Well,

19:32

classic example of the early season

19:35

non-conference game that deceive you. Part

19:38

of the excitement was they beat NC state 51

19:40

to 10 and NC state

19:42

was considered a top

19:44

25 team and

19:46

see States terrible, especially on defense. Just

19:48

terrible. So that throw

19:51

that out the window. If you remember, they

19:53

went to Oklahoma first SEC game

19:55

ever at Oklahoma, charged out to a big

19:57

lead. And then I think

19:59

didn't. score in the second half and it was

20:01

like, well, they took their foot off the gas.

20:04

And now you look back, no, they're actually just

20:06

not that good on offense. Dylan Samson's very good.

20:08

Dylan Samson had three touchdowns, but like you said,

20:10

not much of a passing game for the Vols

20:13

who now host Alabama. Whose

20:15

defense is, uh, you know, fool

20:18

me once, but this is three straight games. Where

20:21

we have not seen a national

20:24

championship kind of defense from Alabama or

20:26

even necessarily one rung below that. Um,

20:30

and then of course, what was

20:32

really strange about that South Carolina game was

20:35

all the turnovers. So, you know,

20:37

Alabama is going to Tennessee next week. No idea what's

20:40

going to happen. Texas is hosting

20:42

Georgia. Texas beat Oklahoma 34 to three.

20:46

No problem. I don't think

20:48

Oklahoma had a chance because they're starting a

20:50

true freshman quarterback and their top five receivers

20:52

are injured. They just, you know,

20:55

what are they supposed to do? Uh,

20:58

and you know, before the season, I would

21:00

think Georgia would have been favored against Texas. That

21:02

will not be the case. So that's going to

21:05

be fascinating. Like I know better next week. What's

21:07

that? Are you worried about Georgia now? I

21:10

am worried about Georgia. I feel like they haven't been

21:12

the same since the, uh,

21:14

since the Alabama game. And

21:17

obviously they almost came back and won that

21:19

Alabama game. I mean, that was after a

21:21

disastrous first half. They, when

21:23

you sit over and it was just, it was ugly

21:25

game, but it wasn't like alarming, but yet

21:27

something just feels off. When

21:29

you say they haven't been, when they haven't been, um,

21:32

the same since the Alabama game, I

21:34

think what you mean is haven't been

21:36

the same since Clemson because the week

21:39

before, I think you forget Kentucky

21:41

almost beat them. Right. So

21:44

they weren't good in Kentucky. They had a

21:46

terrible first half against Alabama. They had a

21:48

good second half, but they still ended up

21:50

losing, you know, giving up a ton of

21:52

yards. They had their hands full

21:54

for a little bit with Auburn. And

21:57

then this is the worst team in the

21:59

SEC. They played. and they they although both

22:01

those games have been home, you know, so

22:03

again, I'm not I Don't

22:06

know. I don't know what to make

22:09

on on Georgia

22:12

right now, I don't think You

22:15

know that I don't want to say this is all cuz oh you

22:17

had Brock Bowers before and he was your get-out-of-trouble You

22:20

know whenever you needed him lad mcconkey was

22:22

a good second option The

22:24

receiving corps is not great I don't feel like

22:26

the running backs are what we used to expect

22:28

Georgia running backs to be We know the offensive

22:30

lines a little banged up doesn't mean that can't

22:32

get they won't get healthy and and and step

22:34

up Maybe it'll be like how Alabama was shaky

22:36

at one point and then they got it going

22:40

But again, it's It's

22:44

surprising to me like I I

22:46

thought they being Georgia was like

22:50

Probably the safest, you

22:52

know team to sit there and go although we can

22:54

kind of count on them to be really really good

22:56

and It's

22:58

just weird, you know, you know where they're ranked

23:00

in the conference in total defense seventh

23:04

Seventh it's like I

23:06

would not have expected that at all. Actually,

23:08

it's worse than that. I'm sorry They're ranked

23:10

12th in total defense in the conference 12.

23:13

You're making good points about the defense, but

23:15

I'm actually more concerned why Carson

23:17

Beck, you know two interceptions

23:19

yesterday Outside of

23:21

that second half, you know furious comeback against

23:23

Alabama. I don't think he's been what

23:26

people expected him to be well But

23:28

I'm just I think it's I think it's because

23:30

he doesn't have Brock Bowers and he doesn't have

23:32

lad mcconkey a guy He trust it and I

23:34

think the receiving corps is not great around them

23:37

I think you know, we are trying to remember

23:39

this might have been a story I work with

23:42

and 20 morale is on a while back

23:44

about recruiting But it was just like sometimes

23:46

it's like big-time receivers They

23:49

may not want to go to Georgia, you know

23:52

in terms of that where I'm not saying none

23:54

do but by and large You

23:56

see the you know kids will go to LSU.

23:58

They'll certainly go to Alabama They'll certainly go to

24:00

Ohio state, um, for

24:03

whatever reason, the Georgia receiving room has not been

24:06

of that caliber. Well,

24:08

if they don't get their act together in the next week,

24:10

they might, they might

24:12

get embarrassed by Texas. Now the other

24:14

scenario would be a lot

24:17

of Texas's reputation, if you will,

24:19

is coming off that game at Michigan. Michigan

24:21

couldn't complete a pass. They still can't, uh,

24:24

maybe George, yeah, Georgia upon maybe Georgia

24:26

comes in and punches them in the

24:28

mouth. But right now, I mean,

24:31

Texas has done nothing to question them.

24:34

Georgia obviously has. Let's

24:36

turn back to the big 10. There was

24:38

another really big game in the big 10 yesterday, Penn

24:40

state USC. And two

24:43

thirds of that game in I'm doing the Penn

24:46

state jet lag theory.

24:49

They did not look like themselves on defense

24:51

for much of that game, but to their

24:53

credit, they came back. Um,

24:55

I thought Drew Aller looked really good on the

24:58

drive to send the game to overtime, they win

25:00

in overtime. Tyler Warren

25:02

had as dominant a game as you will ever

25:04

see a tight end have. I

25:07

mean, I don't know what they saw in

25:09

film to think basically

25:11

let's just throw to the tight end over

25:14

and over and over again, but he

25:16

finished with, again, this is a tight end.

25:20

17 catches for 224 yards and a touchdown. He

25:24

was basically their whole offense. So

25:27

what do you take away from that game?

25:29

Obviously James Franklin is another coach who takes

25:31

heat for not winning the big games number

25:34

14 in the country. They go to LA, they are

25:37

down 26 halftime, come back and win the game. Um,

25:41

I don't know if anybody at Penn state would have

25:43

thought that was a big game until they were losing

25:45

it. Um, you know, it was a

25:47

USC team that looked pretty bad the week

25:49

before, uh, at Minnesota,

25:51

you know, Drew Aller, three

25:54

picks yesterday, um, there was some good and

25:56

there was some bad. I thought You

26:00

know, I mean, but credit to Penn State

26:02

for coming back and winning that game. Because

26:05

I think at one point, I don't know if it was 17, six or

26:07

17, three. I'm trying to remember, you

26:09

know, I was watching on the on the flight

26:11

home. Twenty to six at halftime. Twenty to six.

26:13

Yeah. And it was just like, because

26:16

early on, whenever I was like, I was watching that in

26:18

another game, whenever I was looked at that game, I was

26:20

like, oh, Penn State just kind of like punching him in

26:22

the mouth. I don't know if you

26:24

came away from that game thinking, you know,

26:26

yes, Penn State's undefeated still. I don't know

26:28

if you came away thinking, oh, yeah, this

26:31

Penn State team is

26:34

ready to be a national title

26:36

contender. You know, that that

26:38

doesn't I didn't get that from that game.

26:40

But there is something to be said for

26:42

winning on the road. And that's that's

26:44

real. But I don't know if

26:47

you look at it, if you're a Penn State fan and

26:49

go, well, we know, you know,

26:51

we know Michigan isn't a

26:53

team we have to worry about so much like

26:55

they were. Ohio State maybe looks

26:57

a little more flawed than we thought they

26:59

would. Are

27:02

we close to that? I don't know. I mean, I think

27:05

you wanted to see Jorrell or play play,

27:07

you know, play cleaner. And I think you

27:09

wanted to see their defense made some plays

27:11

when they need it. But I

27:14

don't know. This was like. I

27:16

would say this was kind of like a. I'm

27:19

a little surprised by your reaction. Well,

27:22

I'm a big believer in there's no such thing as

27:24

style points on the road and especially

27:26

in this case, we're traveling across the country where James

27:28

Franklin kept making a big deal. In fact, they had

27:30

to take a but the runway is not long enough.

27:32

We have to take a bus to Harrisburg, blah, blah,

27:34

blah. And, you know, for half, I

27:36

would say a half, maybe longer. They

27:39

did look like a team

27:41

that was going to struggle on the road. And

27:43

Drew Allard did have three picks, although one was a

27:45

Hail Mary type play. But he threw for 391

27:47

yards. Like,

27:50

let's let's give the guy a little bit of

27:52

credit. I just think this is the kind of

27:54

game that Penn State over

27:56

the last few years has not won in that spot.

27:58

So I'm going to give him. credit for going on

28:00

the road and pulling it out. I'm

28:02

also gonna say that USC should have won that game

28:05

and I put that on Lincoln Riley. Weird

28:08

weird clock management at

28:10

the end of regulation. He had three time outs

28:12

he never used one of them. They

28:14

just kind of like clearly

28:17

they were gonna set up the field goal and they didn't want to give

28:19

the ball back to USC but they like went

28:21

too far in the extreme. You

28:24

know I think they outplayed Penn State for much of that game.

28:26

It would not have been if

28:30

you use timeouts in the end of regulation you probably could

28:32

have set it up for the field goal. I

28:36

put it on him and by the way

28:38

he is now five and eight in his last 13

28:41

games and they are look we had low expectations for

28:43

them before the season so I don't want to say

28:45

like they flop necessarily they

28:47

did beat LSU but they

28:49

have three losses already. They're one and three in

28:51

the Big Ten like their season's basically over halfway

28:55

through the year. Yeah

28:59

I don't in some ways I feel like they're

29:01

they're a little better

29:03

than I expected them to be but

29:05

this certainly isn't like you

29:08

can say whatever you want about the

29:10

Michigan game and then they you know

29:12

handled Wisconsin pretty easily but the

29:14

last two weeks again I didn't think they were

29:16

gonna be Penn State but it didn't shock me

29:18

that they were in the game or leading it.

29:23

I don't know you know I thought they were gonna be Penn

29:25

State I did. Yeah I thought they

29:27

were like I thought their offensive line was

29:29

gonna have more issues with Abdul Carter now

29:31

than Abdul Carter had a pretty good game

29:33

but some of the other guys I thought

29:35

would would would put more pressure

29:37

on Miller Moss I mean again they

29:40

gave up I don't know how many yards

29:42

550 yards or something like that to Penn

29:44

State that's a that's still a big number

29:46

you know again I still

29:49

think the defense is improved it

29:52

feels like there are moments where it's like oh

29:54

yeah that's still some of those same guys at

29:56

USC you know you saw that absolutely last week

29:58

against Minnesota. the road. I feel like there was

30:00

times you saw that, you saw that yesterday as

30:03

well, but credit to Penn State. I mean, as

30:06

you said, there was a stat

30:08

that Jason Benetti had before the

30:11

their game yesterday. And it was

30:13

Iowa, you know,

30:16

pretty much thumping Washington who

30:18

came across the country to play that game. I

30:20

want to say it was like one and eight

30:22

and the two time zones mentioned that would have

30:24

made it like one and nine. Obviously Penn State

30:27

would be a, you know, I would update that

30:29

stat. So maybe I guess it's two and nine,

30:31

but then there's like, it's actually now because Minnesota,

30:33

you have Oregon, UCLA, but

30:36

Oregon, it's now three and 10. The two

30:38

time zone visiting teams are three and 10

30:40

in the big 10.

30:42

Yeah, it's definitely a noteworthy stat. I

30:44

mean, again, because I think we're seeing

30:46

it from all sides of it, right?

30:49

So it's, it's especially in

30:51

the big 10, because that's, that's one of the biggest

30:55

changes that we have because of the, because the

30:57

shape of the league. I

31:00

don't know. Again, I guess I don't

31:02

know what to take away from Penn State at this point, because

31:05

I think, to me, I think

31:08

they're a playoff team, because I think they're very good on

31:10

defense. And I think they have enough on

31:12

offense to be that I just don't know if they're,

31:15

if they make noise, if they're good enough to make noise

31:17

in the playoff. Well, I don't think the,

31:20

I don't think anybody's expecting Penn State to win the national

31:22

title. Get in the playoff, win

31:25

a game, I think that's considered successful.

31:27

You look at the back half, and by the way,

31:29

they could also win the big 10 at this point.

31:32

So there's three, no in

31:34

the big 10, the back half

31:36

of their schedule at Wisconsin, they have an off

31:38

week this week, then they're at Wisconsin, then

31:40

the big one against Ohio State at home, Washington

31:43

at home at Purdue, like

31:45

the back, the last four games, Washington at

31:47

home at Purdue, at

31:50

Minnesota, Maryland, win

31:52

or lose against Ohio State, this is a

31:54

probably an 11-1 team unless they just collapse

31:57

at some point. That's going to

31:59

be a heck of a season for them if they pull that

32:02

off. You're even looking at

32:04

a scenario where possibly

32:07

where Ohio State's not in Indianapolis.

32:09

It's Oregon versus Penn State, which

32:11

would be something nobody would

32:13

have seen coming before the year. Can

32:15

I throw something at you that I get impromptu? I'm

32:18

not going to blow up the podcast here, but I

32:21

think going into the year, my

32:23

mind was like, oh yeah, there's going to

32:25

be some nine and three teams that are

32:27

making the playoffs, right? You know, SEC teams

32:29

or whatever. But as we're seeing this play

32:31

out in real time, you know,

32:33

we're like, okay, throw this team out, throw that team out.

32:35

They got to win out or whatever. But if you go

32:37

through and I would do it from like last week's, you

32:40

know, top 15, you start out with

32:43

Texas, they had most of the votes.

32:45

Obviously feel strongly about them. We've talked

32:48

about Ohio State. We talked about Oregon.

32:51

Penn State was number four. Okay.

32:53

So you just talked about them.

32:56

There's Georgia. I don't think we've, we're, we

32:58

still think they're a playoff team, but we're

33:01

definitely not as bullish on them as we were as an, as

33:04

a team that was going to win the

33:06

national title now. Then there's Miami that a

33:08

bi-week or six and Oh, then

33:10

there's the aforementioned Alabama Crimson Tide, which

33:12

is, which has been struggling, but there's,

33:14

there's still, you know,

33:16

a one loss team. Tennessee, we've talked

33:18

about concerns with their offense significantly. They're

33:21

going to play them. Ole

33:23

Miss, which was number nine, they're out of the,

33:25

I'm not saying they're, they have no chance at

33:27

the playoff, but barring a big upset with Georgia,

33:29

they, that's it. Then there's the Clemson team that

33:33

I think you struggle to, you

33:36

know, see, you know, just to, to buy

33:38

in on them. Iowa State

33:42

Notre Dame. Okay. LSU. They look like they're

33:44

trending in the right direction. There's the BYU

33:46

Cougars who I saw yesterday. I'm grateful

33:49

for BYU and their, their fan support. It

33:51

was awesome. They're playing very

33:53

good on defense and their offenses, you

33:56

know, offense has some punch. So

33:58

maybe it's, you know, there.