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Armageddon
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is a turn that gets thrown
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around as shorthand for the
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end of the world. But
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as many of you know, it's not an event,
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but a place. In the book
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of Revelation, Armageddon is the
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plain where the armies of good and
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evil gather on the final day of
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judgment. But the name originated
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is Harm Megiddo, the
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mount or mount of Megiddo. And
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the remains of bronze age Megiddo still
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exist. around twenty miles
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southeast of the modern city of Haifa
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in Northern Israel. If
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you wanted to, hadn't had the money
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and, you know, your paperwork was all in
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order. You could go visit Armageddon
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right now. They're actually
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building a new airport there. I'm
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not joking. Long
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before any talk of the end times,
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Megadote earned an enviable reputation
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as a stage for military conflict. Which,
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in fairness, is what can happen
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when you sight your city at a narrow path
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along a major trade route linking
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Egypt with Syria, Anatolia,
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and Mesopotamia. It
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can make you rich. It can make you powerful
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it can definitely make you a target. The
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earliest recorded battle of Megadou
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was fought in fourteen fifty seven BC.
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At the time, the territories west of the
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euphrates were home to dozens of
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minor canaanite city states of
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varying size and influence. and
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Megadoo was up near the top of the
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list. Actually,
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it was one of those times, like the
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early iron age, when the major
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powers were mostly out of the picture.
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The main exception was the Northern Syrian
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Kingdom of Latani. which had
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made a few local inroads. On
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the flip side, the last confirmed Egyptian
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campaign under the Faroe thought
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most the first was already nearly
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fifty years in the past. The
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previous year of fourteen fifty
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eight word had come north that
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the latest Egyptian pharaoh had
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Shepsut had died. Times
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of regime change Germ oftentimes for
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testing political boundaries. On
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this occasion, the Matani king
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Shausch Qatar ordered one of his
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vassals. the king of Kadesh
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on the Orantes River to join
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forces with the king of Megadoe and
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do a little recon down south. Since
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Megadou was roughly halfway between
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Kedesh and the Egyptian border, marching
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the Kedeshi army south was
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already a pretty aggressive move.
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Especially since between them,
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Megadot and Kadesh could apparently field
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an army of ten to fifteen thousand.
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It's possible that number is inflated and
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may all include Matani military
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advisers along with contingents
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from nearby cities and tribes. In
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fact, there's an interesting theory about some
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of the local auxiliaries. At
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last year's ASOR conference, Doctor
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Lauren Monro of Cornell University gave
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an interesting talk on an early iron
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age poem that was later
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repurposed for inclusion in the Old
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Testament song of Debra. She
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makes a pretty convincing argument that
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a biblical hymn describing a number
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of proto Israelite Highland tribes
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banding together to oppose the
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lowland kings of Canon was
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actually a story of highlanders and
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lowlanders banding together to
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confront the common foe. Based
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on the timing, the details of the conflict,
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and the local geography, the
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iron age poem may have been inspired
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by the earlier battle of Megadeau. And
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who may have been this common foe?
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Well, there were on pretty solid ground.
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Because the minute he heard news of armies
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massing, the brand new Faroe
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mustered his troops and marched them north
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into Canon. Though
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brand new isn't really quite accurate.
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In fact, Futmos the third had already
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co ruled Egypt with his aunt and
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stepmother the pharaoh had shipset
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for twenty two of his twenty four
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years. But now
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that he had the throne to himself, he
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intended to make his mark, which
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as Alexander and Caesar could tell
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you, is often easier when you
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write your own press. So
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we actually have an insanely detailed
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account of the entire campaign recorded
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by Thutmos' military scribe
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Chenetti and later inscribed at
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Karnak. If you believe
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this version, Thutmos' strategy
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was so bold and daring and
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immediately successful that he
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nearly won the battle in a single
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day. But well,
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I'll let his scribe, tell it. Futmos
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was in their center. Amun being
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the protection of his person in the melee
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and the strength of set, pervading his
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members. Then the enemy
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saw his majesty prevailing over
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them, and they fled headlong to
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Megadou with faces of fear.
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They abandoned their horses and their
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chariots of silver and gold. Now,
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if only his majesty's army had
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not given up their hearts to capturing
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the possessions of the enemy, they
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would have captured Megadou at this time.
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So because they stopped to gather
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loot, the Egyptians lost the initiative.
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And Thermos was forced to lay siege
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to Megadou for seven long months.
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When it finally fell, Foot Most
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spared its defenders' lives, but
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stripped the city and surrounding countryside
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of pretty much everything of value.
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In fact, a substantial part of the Karnak
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inscription is a detailed list of the
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plunder. Including nine
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hundred chariots, two hundred
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suits of armor, five hundred
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bows, and three hundred and
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eighty seven thousand cows. He
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also sent the princes of the
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land bearing their tribute to
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silver, gold, lapis lazuli
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in turquoise southward. Then
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his majesty appointed Prince's anew
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for every town. I'm
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going to go out on a limb here and suggest
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that Thutmosis campaign had a
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fairly disruptive effect on Kainan.
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And you can multiply this by a dozen
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more campaigns in the Kainan Syria
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fonetia and adjacent territories
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over the next two decades. Including
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one where the most managed to capture
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a lovely little town on the euphrates river
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named Karkamish. But
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again, in the south, the disruption
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led to the abandonment of numerous
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middle bronze age cities and rural
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sites, and the foundation, re
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foundation, or repurposing of others.
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Two of the more interesting examples of
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the latter were the cities of Beth
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Sheehan and Telre Haav. Beth
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Sheehan was cited at the junction of the Jordan
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River Valley and the Jezrio Valley
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and was known in later classical times
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as scythopolis. At
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the time of utmost the third invasion,
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the site was already home to a canonite
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temple to ball or possibly the
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war god reshif. similar
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and designed to those at Ebla and
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Alaloc. But
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to set the stage for future campaigns,
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Sutmos decided to repurpose Beth
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Sheehan as an Egyptian garrison
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town. One early Egyptian
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embellishment to the site was a new
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temple dedicated to Macaul,
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the great god, lord of Beth Sheehan.
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A recovered Stelay shows the deity
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seated on a throne with two Egyptians
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paying homage. At
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the same time, around three miles away,
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a new city was founded atop a partially
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populated bronze age tell, named
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Rahaf. By
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its earliest mentions the following century,
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Tel Rehav was already a major
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city. According to archaeologist
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and historian Amihai Mazar, Who's
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our source for much of today's episode?
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The city's estimated area of ten
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hectares is somewhat larger
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than nearby Pella, roughly
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similar to that of Megadou and
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more than twice as large as the Egyptian
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government center at Betchyan. Tel
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Aviv's fairly rapid growth may have
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been a deliberate initiative on
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the part of the Egyptian administration. An
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attempt to create a canonite polity
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that could be easily managed and
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provide the nearby Egyptian garrison with
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produce and other commodities. In
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fact, the new city's population was
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likely made up of canaanites displaced
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by the most the third campaigns. Under
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the subsequent nineteenth Thoramicide
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dynasty, both Beth Sheehan
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and Tel Rahaf continued to
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grow and prosper. Beth
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Sheehan was completely rebuilt.
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And under the twentieth dynasty, the
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city gained large administrative buildings
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and a palace for the local Egyptian
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governor. At the same
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time, bizarre notes that Tel Rehan
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became the center of a Canonite city
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state administered by a local
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ruler who perhaps controlled a
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large part of the Beth Sheehan Valley
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and some adjacent territory to the
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west and northwest, while
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being under the supreme control of
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the Egyptian governor at Betchyan. Recovered
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finds highlight some distinctions between
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the two sides. While half
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the pottery at Beth Sheehan was
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in an Egyptian style, favored
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by its Egyptian administrative and
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military population. The majority
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of the pottery at Tel Rehav was
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a local Cananite style. Though
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it's worth noting that a few pots and jars
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were imported from Philistine Econ
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and even Anatolian Meledis. Of
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course, the twentieth Egyptian dynasty
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ruled during the era of the bronze age
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collapse. while the
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sea peoples destroyed the inland sites
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of Hasor, Megando, and Lakish,
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they never penetrated as far as the Jordan
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Valley. but the local
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region didn't escape unscathed. I
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mentioned a few episodes back that Egypt
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largely withdrew from chaen during
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the reign of Rameses the sixth. One
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of the outpost the Egyptians abandoned
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was the garrison at Beth Sheyhan.
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It may not have been an entirely passive
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withdrawal. Parts
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of the site suffered violent destruction. likely
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at the hands of local Canonites or
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possibly even Habiburu. Whoever
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was to blame, it was the Canonites who
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occupied the city. I
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also noted a few episodes back that
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after the Israelite King saw was
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killed by the Philistines at Mount Gilboa,
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they displayed his head, sword, and
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armor at Ashkelon. But
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his body and those of his sons.
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were supposedly displayed at this new
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Kainanite iteration of Beth Sheon.
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And what about Tel Rehav? Well,
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that's probably the more interesting story.
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Because all the way from its Egyptian foundation
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in the late bronze age, through the
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bronze age collapse and into the
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early iron age, tell Rahaf
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kept right on chugging along. It's
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actually one of very few sites that preserves
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a highly detailed archaeological record
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of this entire time span. with
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zero breaks due to violent destruction
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or abandonment, which makes
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it an excellent vehicle for tracking
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developments right down through the time
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of our story. According
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to Masar, in the wake of the Egyptian
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withdrawal of the late twelfth century
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BC, Tel Aviv shows
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evidence for continuous intensive
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and well planned building activities. The
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contemporary city was substantial. and
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extended over the entire ten hectare
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mountain. It was well
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planned and densely built, with
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domestic as well as public buildings.
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It's also worth noting that in contrast
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to many of its contemporary neighbors, Tel
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Rehav apparently lacked a fortification wall.
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Moving into the tenth century BC,
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the era of the supposed unified Israelite
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Kingdom Tel Raha remained
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one of the largest and most prosperous
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sites in the region. Recoveried
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finds provide evidence of long distance
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trade relations with the coastal
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cities of Ako, Dorr,
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Tyre, and Biden. And
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through them, as far as Attica and
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UBEA and Greece. Mizar
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also notes that commercial ties
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with Egypt are reflected in a considerable
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number of feyont's ambulance. as
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well as the bones of types of fish
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that originated in the Nile and Lagoons
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of the Northern Sinai. Mazor
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also highlights other finds, including
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clay altars, cultic chalices,
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clay figurines, personal seals
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and seal impressions. The
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Cananite altars were often enclosed
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by a parapet with horns on
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its four corners. While some
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were adorned with figures of naked
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goddesses. Canaanite
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cultic practices, including the
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worship of Ball and Ashera, continued
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to predominantly, and
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there's no evidence the God of Israel
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was worshipped in the city, or
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at least not yet. Both
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bronze and iron metallurgy were
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practiced at Telrahaave. One
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of the major sources copper was the
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mines we discussed a few episodes back
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at Timna, Fean, and elsewhere
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in the Arab region, home to the contemporary
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edamites. According
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to archaeologist and historian, Nama
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Yahalomac, the earliest
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bronze working at Telre Have was
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done using methods imported from
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Egypt. But after its
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withdrawal, Egyptian traditions were
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replaced with canaanite ones. Over
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the course of the tenth century BC, iron
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became the main metal worked
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at Telre Haute, likely
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sourced from nearby Alune in
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modern Jordan. As
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it happens, the only written record
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from this period mentioning Tel Rehove
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is actually sourced from Egypt. Because
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around nine twenty five BC, the
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new Egyptian Faroe, Shoshank the
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first, marched his army into
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Canon. There are
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two main sources for Ashishan's campaign.
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The first is what's called the Bubastite
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Portal at the Temple of Karnak
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in Egypt. The portal
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holds a depiction of Shoshank Smiting
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his enemies, along with a list
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of roughly a hundred and fifty locations
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supposedly conquered during the expedition.
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According to historian Nathan Steinmeier,
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while a number of these locations are
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too badly broken to read, many
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names are still intact and
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can be used to create a basic
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map of the campaign. Oh,
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and I should mention that I've also created
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a few new maps for this season. The
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links are in the blog post.
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The second
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source is the biblical account,
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which refers to Shoshank as
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Shishak.
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The campaign evidently had
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two main prongs, with
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troops sent into two different regions
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to accomplish different goals. From
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the Philistine City of Gaza, one
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force marched southwest through the negative
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desert and into the Arab Valley.
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Stein Meier notes that at least one
16:25
factor driving the campaign was
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likely gaining greater control over
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the region's copper trade. as
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well as gaining direct access to
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the copper mines of the Arab Valley.
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As discussed a few episodes back, After
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Egypt's withdrawal, regional copper
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production actually increased under
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the semi nomadic edomites. It's
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likely that the newly emergent twenty
16:49
second dynasty wanted to take advantage
16:52
of this burgeoning source of copper.
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Consequently, the southern prong
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may have been tasked with securing local
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copper mines or instituting some
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sort of Egyptian control over regional
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copper Even
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if this was the campaign's main goal,
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it's the northern prong that gets
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most of the press. because
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this is the force that the bible tells
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us plundered the city of Jerusalem. The
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biblical account also gives us a political
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motivation. In the
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latter years of King Solomon's reign,
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a senior official named Jared Boam,
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was getting an earful of widespread Israelite
17:31
discontent. with Solomon's many
17:33
extravagancies. Nudged
17:36
by a prophecy, Jarrodome started
17:38
intriguing to split the kingdom
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and make himself king of the ten
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northern tribes. When
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his conspiracy was discovered, he
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was forced to flee from Israel Egypt
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in the Court of Shoshank the first.
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When Solomon died a few years
17:55
later, his son, Reah Balam,
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ascended the throne. Jera
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boom came back north to petition
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the new king for tax relief
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for the ten northern tribes. When
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Rayabome decided to go all contrarian
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and raise their taxes instead, the
18:13
ten tribes withdrew their allegiance to
18:15
the House of David and proclaimed Jared
18:18
Boam their king. According
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to the bible, this event resulted in
18:23
creation of the northern kingdom of
18:25
Israel with its capital at shechem.
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Only the tribes of Judah and Benjamin
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stayed loyal to Reh barefoot forming
18:34
the new southern kingdom of Judah
18:36
with its capital at Jerusalem. And
18:39
spoiler alert the kingdoms will spend
18:41
the next few centuries in almost
18:43
perpetual war. In
18:46
the biblical account, Shoshank or
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Shishak, arrived at Jerusalem
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in Rehavam's fifth year with
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an army of sixty thousand. The
18:56
city surrendered without a fight.
18:58
and Shoshank carried off the treasures
19:01
of the temple of the lord and the
19:03
treasures of the royal palace. including
19:06
Allah, Indiana Jones, the
19:09
legendary arc of the covenant. Interestingly,
19:12
Jerusalem is not included in
19:15
the list cities inscribed on the
19:17
Bubastite portal at Karnak. But
19:20
Steinmaier highlights archaeological evidence
19:23
that the nearby agricultural settlement
19:26
of Telmoza along
19:28
Shoshank's likely path to Jerusalem
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was destroyed at around this time.
19:33
So really, it's hard to say.
19:36
Going by the other cities listed
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on the portal, Show Shape proceeded
19:40
north from Jerusalem to the Israelite
19:43
capital of Shechem,
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now ruled by his former house
19:47
guest, Jeremiah. then
19:49
to Tearza and east of the Jordan.
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And following the river North,
19:54
he soon arrived at the cities of Telre
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Haav and Beth Sheehan.
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While both cities
19:59
are listed on the portal and
20:02
were therefore considered part of the campaign,
20:05
neither city shows evidence of contemporary
20:08
construction. In fact, it
20:10
seems highly likely that the northern
20:12
prong of Shoshin's campaign was
20:14
less about conquest and devastation and
20:17
more about collecting tribute. In
20:20
a similar fashion to Tigler Polaser
20:22
and his swing through Northern Syria.
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Either way, after visiting few more
20:28
northern cities, recorded as
20:30
Shunem, Tanak, and Megadou,
20:33
Shooshink likely returned back home.
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Though it isn't included in the portal list,
20:38
the discovery of a statue base bearing
20:41
his name from the Phoenician city
20:43
of Biblos suggest that Shoshank
20:45
may have visited the city, most
20:47
likely by Ship. The
20:49
inscription in the Phoenician script
20:52
records that this is the statue
20:54
that Shoshank brought Abi Bal,
20:57
king of Biblos from Egypt
20:59
for Balat Gebal, his lady.
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Along with reasserting Egyptian power
21:05
in Kainan, a major outcome
21:07
of shoshin' campaign was increased
21:10
Egyptian involvement or at least
21:12
interest in the Levantine metals
21:14
trade. And in that
21:16
vein, there's one last topic I wanted
21:19
to touch on. Masar
21:21
notes that shortly after Shoshan's
21:23
campaign, the citizens of Tel
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Rehav began construction of a
21:28
new well planned and densely
21:30
built urban corridor of the city.
21:32
conventionally known as Stratum five.
21:36
Right in the heart of this newly built
21:38
district, archaeologists uncovered
21:40
something entirely unexpected. The
21:43
remains of a hundred and eighty b
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hives. I know
21:48
what you're saying, Scott, enough with
21:50
the b's. What is it with you and the b's?
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I'm joking. I've never mentioned b's on this
21:55
podcast before. but I am totally
21:57
going to right now.
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So
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let me start with a few stats.
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Mazor details that each of the
22:04
one hundred and eighty cylindrical clay
22:06
beehives had volume of
22:08
around fifty six liters. One
22:11
end of each cylinder was enclosed by
22:13
a clay wall with a small flying
22:16
hole that allowed the bees to enter
22:18
and exit the hive, while the
22:20
opposite end was fitted with a portable
22:22
clay lid that allowed for a honey extraction.
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The Telrejov Apiary or
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B Yard remains unparalleled
22:32
elsewhere in the archaeology of ancient
22:34
near east or the Mediterranean world.
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It's estimated that this amount of highs could
22:40
produce around five hundred kilograms
22:43
of honey and fifty to seventy
22:45
kilograms of beeswax per
22:47
year. And somewhat
22:49
surprisingly beeswax rather
22:51
than honey was the morics expensive
22:54
and in demand product. Why
22:57
you may ask? Well, several
22:59
reasons. beeswax was
23:01
used for medical purposes sealing
23:04
and wax writing boards. But
23:06
above all, it was an indispensable
23:09
part of the metal casting process
23:11
called the Lost Wax Method.
23:14
In fact, it's likely for this very reason
23:17
that Tel Rehav beeswax may
23:19
have been exported to the Venetian coast,
23:22
south into Egypt, or north
23:24
to the cities of Syria. One
23:27
of the oddest things about the APA
23:29
was that it was situated smack dab
23:31
in the middle of a newly built, densely
23:34
populated suburb. Because
23:37
based on the number of hives, we
23:39
are literally talking about over
23:41
a million bees. Oh
23:43
my god. Can you imagine the buzzing?
23:46
It must have been literally insane.
23:49
I mean, I guess you could get
23:51
used to it at least theoretically,
23:55
Lazar also speculates that a
23:57
powerful local family dripping
23:59
with B money may have forced the
24:01
situation. Either
24:03
way, there's another super interesting
24:05
aspect that served to mitigate things,
24:08
at least somewhat. because
24:11
the bees, they weren't from
24:13
the local neighborhood. The
24:16
Syrian honey bee your apis
24:18
melifera cireica is
24:20
fairly aggressive and not particularly
24:22
productive. But Mazar
24:25
notes that the recovered remains from the
24:27
Tel Rehav a period didn't come
24:29
from this type of b. Instead,
24:32
they came from Apes Melifera and
24:34
autologa, the anatolian
24:36
honey bee, which is both more
24:38
productive and less aggressive than
24:41
its Levantine cousin. Now,
24:43
here's the rub. The latter bee's
24:45
acclimation to the Anatolian climate
24:48
makes it unlikely that these b's
24:50
migrated into canon, which
24:53
raises the possibility that telre
24:55
hold beekeepers imported
24:57
bee swarms from Anatolia, a
25:00
minimal distance of about five hundred
25:02
miles.
25:04
I know right It
25:06
may sound crazy, but it's actually not.
25:09
There are records of a local governor
25:11
a century or two later discussing
25:13
the import of bees.
25:15
And again, if you're dropping a b yard
25:17
in the center of your town, it's
25:19
worth paying the premium for the mellow
25:22
bees. Trust me. Now,
25:25
there is kind of a sad code of the story,
25:27
which is that sometime around the turn
25:29
of the ninth century BC, the
25:32
APiary at Tel Raha was
25:34
violently destroyed. Not
25:36
the whole town, just the APiary
25:39
district. We don't know
25:41
who, we don't know how, we
25:43
don't know why. Though
25:45
I might suggest that the constant buzzing
25:48
of a million b's might give
25:50
anyone a few bad ideas. Next
25:54
episode, it's back up north to
25:56
car cam ish. where I'll refocus
25:58
on the political situation of northern
26:00
Syria in the last few decades
26:02
of the tenth century BC. This
26:05
is the era when we begin to see a
26:07
gradual increase in the number
26:10
and variety of royal monuments
26:12
royal inscriptions and other generally
26:15
helpful information. As
26:17
we continue to progress through the dark
26:19
age tunnel, toward the very bright
26:21
light at the end. The light,
26:24
of course, of an oncoming train
26:26
by the name of Neo Assyria.
26:45
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