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We would be long and if
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you would join us. Hey, guys,
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how's it going? Welcome back to another Star Wars Theory podcast.
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OK, you know what? Initial
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impressions. I like the episode, except there
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are some really interesting moves
0:17
that I didn't get. Like, why didn't Bo
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just use the Darksaber to cut open where
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Din was at? And she could have, you know, kicked the thing in before
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Moff Gideon came down
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and she could they all could have gone through there and helped him.
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Uh, Paz Vizsla didn't need to die. He could have just
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kept shooting and moved backwards. You
0:34
know, I mean, I really liked
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his character. I don't know. I'm sad
0:38
he's dead. Pretorian guards
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link the sequel trilogy. Not
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happy about it. Cope, I guess.
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Yeah. Hmm.
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Like a lot of this could have happened by episode five. The
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armorer set them up, works for imps. Yeah,
0:58
I could see that. I could see
1:00
that. If Bo don't use the
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saber to open the door, I know. They look
1:05
like Boba Fett prototype armor. I remember
1:07
George saying they were supposed to be an
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army of them. Yeah, right. Ela wasted
1:11
potential, rest in peace, pass. Great episode sucks.
1:14
It took this long to get there. Yeah,
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like an epi- This could have been like an episode five kind of thing.
1:19
Does the white pirate have a super battle droid head for
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his shoulder armor? I
1:23
also loved how grief telling the droid
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to notice markings, like
1:28
Dex tells Kenobi, droids don't pay attention
1:31
to them in episode two. Mandloor
1:33
is a perfect analogy for the US, says
1:36
X. A perfect analogy
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for everywhere, especially North America,
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I would say. They
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took Ruggu's pod out of Mando's ship since he's
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probably riding with Beau now, letting go of Mando.
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He def can't fit with IG
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suit, much love from New York. Hey, what's up,
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New York? 10 out
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of 10 episodes just because of Grogu in ID 12.
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was oust when I oust thrawn That'll
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end well. Yeah, that won't end well for Gideon. Can
2:02
you tell me that much? Long
2:04
live the Empire. Great
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episode. Sucks it took this long to get here. Moff
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Gideon was the best part of the show. Killing Paz is
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metaphorically Jon Favreau heading out.
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I don't know. I feel like he just probably wanted to kill off his character.
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But his character was dope. I liked it. Well,
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he was a good character. He
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was kind of like the... Ah,
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like from Gladiator, the big German guy. I
2:27
know who it's Ralph plays
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it. I think his name is Ralph Muller or something.
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The big German gladiator. That's
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who he reminds me of.
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Armor is Ursa Wren,
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call it. Dragoo
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lost his force ability after training.
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Yeah, what the freak, man? He's
2:46
just watching. Like, train
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two years with Luke? Pull?
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Alright, let's do a pull. Let's
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do a poll. 9 to 10.
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7 to 8. 5 to 6.
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4 below.
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All
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right, let's see what you guys got.
3:13
Damn dude, favorite Mandalorian is gone, tearing up.
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But oh my God, dude was a badass on the way
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out. Love seeing the secret Imperial counsel
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too. 9 out of 10. Where
3:23
is the N1 currently? Mando, Bin, and Bose?
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I think it's on... I
3:29
guess it's not on Navarro. Or is
3:31
it? Yeah, I think
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it's on Navarro. Hmm? When
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they did the pirate thing, it's on Navarro.
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If she had used the saber
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to open up the front door, they would have all been mowed
3:43
down one by one while going through. I
3:45
hated the last few episodes, but that was sick.
3:49
I don't think they would have been mowed down because they
3:51
could have just all put their
3:54
blasters through the whole shooting. John's
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character dies, he wasn't mentioned.
4:00
to help on Filoni's movie drama
4:02
with John and KK. Are they trying to hide him leaving?
4:04
6.7 out of 10 episode for me. Mando
4:06
has been sidelined hard this season. Kathleen
4:09
Kennedy can't have a strong masculine character like
4:11
Paz. So patriarchal. Yes, Bo-Katan.
4:15
I don't see a problem with the Praetorian guards
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showing up. I don't care if they were from the sequel
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trilogy. They still low-key badass. 9
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out of 10 episode in my opinion says Connor.
4:25
Hope Thrawn in last episode and Caps
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Gideon.
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You love you, Thierry. I love you too, Connor. Yeah,
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him wanting Thrawn out is not going to
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not going to go well. Not going
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to go well. John is out.
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That's why he has nothing to do with the future announcements.
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Paz dying is proof. I'm
4:44
sorry, but I couldn't get into this episode at all after
4:46
the last six episodes. Big L season, no magic.
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Yeah, feeling a little bit bummed because of the
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whole season, but this episode was fun.
4:53
It had me intrigued and interested while
4:55
I was watching it. Any
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sort of thing with the sequel trilogy just turns me off.
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I'm so sorry. It just does. I'm
5:03
not sorry. It's just the way it is. Pretorian
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Guard seemed more badass than they
5:08
were in the Last Jedi. Great episode. Sad it was
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this late in the game. I hope the finale
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delivers. Why
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was she gonna make a bottleneck with
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the saber right in front of the soldiers to save Mando?
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If she made a hole, they would have got shot
5:21
going through.
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There
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must've been a way out of that man. I mean, like they could just
5:29
put their, they could blind fire, they could like put
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their arms through the freaking hole
5:33
there and start shooting. I mean, there's just so many different
5:35
ways. This
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is Star Wars says little G-Wagon. Why the armor
5:40
and Gideon's helmet so similar? Because
5:43
she's a spy.
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Calling it, man. This
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episode has some incredible shots. Hey
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Theory, do you think Din will die in the next episode?
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Also, how do you rate this one and
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what was your favorite and least favorite thing about
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it? Least favorite thing, Paz dies.
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Um, Victorian guards also, I would
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say most
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favorite thing. Grogu
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in the, in the IG 12. That was funny. Uh,
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I don't think, I
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don't think Din's going to die, man. What's
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up pet shop.
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Two, two months. What do you think will happen
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to pass? Visible son. He's going to turn to the dark side.
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This is why I serve Boca tan crease.
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Wise Din written
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by ChatGPT. Reading
6:31
the chat while watching the episode was a bad idea. The
6:33
EPs hadn't even started yet and people started to hate.
6:36
I think Star Wars fans have lost the ability to
6:38
feel happiness. Best episodes yet. No,
6:40
I don't think they've lost the ability. I think they're just tired.
6:44
I think some of them, yeah, have lost the ability, but
6:46
some of them are just tired. Great
6:50
app, but probably because of the comparison to the rest
6:52
of the series. I mean, compared to last
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episode, you know, this was a great one.
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The brains playing space croquet.
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As Vizsla is to is to manly,
7:02
the force is female.
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Not bad. What you think happens in the finale?
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In the finale. Moff
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Gideon probably gets pretty far with Mandalore, but
7:12
I would love it if like the rest of the fleet shows
7:15
up. However, I would also love it if.
7:19
Boba
7:19
Fett showed up, but that's not enough. I
7:21
think axe woves
7:24
and the entire night owls are loyal to
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Gideon.
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I'm going to call it right here.
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I think they're loyal to Gideon and they're not going to help. John,
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no need for pads when we have Bo. I
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like how Gideon was hiding on Mandalore
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the whole time. Yeah,
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he had his whole freaking empire there, man.
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Great, terrible episode five out of 10. Bad
7:47
writing F. Sequel says the second sons.
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As could have jet packed out of there before his jet pack got damaged.
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They could have all jet packed out to be honest. Maybe
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they're out of fuel. was
8:00
Deaf Mythosaur, same size, and
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has cheek horns. It didn't have the cheek horns. I didn't see the
8:04
cheek horns. Did you guys see cheek horns on the Mythosaur?
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I didn't see that.
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Paz dying equals din doesn't die would
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be too much. Yeah, there's no, dude, din's not
8:13
dying. There's no way. Imagine if Paz
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pulled a predator and detonated himself, this is the
8:17
way. That would have been kind of dope though. That
8:21
would have been kind of sick. Why
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was din the goal? Moff didn't want Grogu.
8:27
He
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probably has a bone to pick with him, man. He
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got him arrested and he beat him.
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When Gideon was mentioning the army, he's probably the reason
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the first order begins.
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Yeah, that was not a mythosaur, definitely.
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I think if Bo cut through the door to save Din, Gideon
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would have killed Din, maybe.
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Okay, spam one if you think Bo
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should have cut right through the door. Spam two
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if you think that would have got them killed.
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I understand the bottleneck thing, that makes sense. But
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I think there's just ways around it. Like she could have maybe like
8:58
poked circles in, man. And they could have
9:00
just like put their arms through it, shot
9:02
them all down. By
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not using the saber to save Din, Grogu
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not using any sort of force to save his father,
9:10
as not using the jet to get out of there, fun,
9:12
but annoying. Yeah, it's kind of like when Boa didn't use
9:14
his jetpack in the beginning of the show.
9:16
Just because Paz should have backed up, I don't
9:18
think this is what his character would have done.
9:22
What,
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you think he wanted to die in honor
9:24
in battle? Maybe
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some guy came in my work today claiming to work for Disney
9:30
and said that they were going to make a Mando movie.
9:34
Probably what Dave is doing. Don't
9:37
be upset about relations to sequel trilogy. Dave
9:39
hinted pretty recently that they were looking to avoid
9:41
the main storyline of the sequel trilogy
9:43
in an interview.
9:45
I hope so, dude. So
9:49
was Moff getting a Maul command
9:51
in the past? His helmet has horns on it. I
9:54
would think so. I would think he
9:56
was loyal to Maul. I
9:59
don't know why else. he
10:00
would have horns on his helmet, you know? I
10:02
feel like the other Imperials knew more about Thrawn's return.
10:05
They just keep Gideon out of it and let him do his thing
10:07
until Thrawn comes back. Yeah, probably. They're
10:09
just like laughing at Gideon, man. They
10:11
just think he's a joke. Did
10:14
K.K. kill off John's character or
10:16
is this John bowing out
10:18
gracefully from the show?
10:20
Little buddy, little. I'm sad, man.
10:23
This wasn't necessary, Theory. I know it wasn't necessary
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at all. It makes me sad. Makes
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me very sad. Moff
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Gideon had a very similar helmet to the Armor. Yeah
10:33
dude, they're both in it together. She's
10:36
not good. Why do you think I made that video that she's Rook cast?
10:41
Never would have guessed Gideon was on Mandalore. Hey
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Theory, what series did you like more this year?
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Bad Batch or Mandalore? Uh, Bad
10:48
Batch. So
10:49
far. Armor must
10:51
be a spy. Makes too much sense. I
10:54
felt taken out of it when Din asked Grogu, you
10:56
good? And bro, they didn't even show
10:58
a wound where Paz got stabbed by the guard.
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Yeah, you know when, and when he cracked
11:03
the stormtrooper's neck? Nothing.
11:06
No sound. It's Disney, man. They can't
11:08
do that stuff, I guess. I don't know.
11:10
I'm not sure. Dang,
11:13
Paz Vizsla is hardcore, sad to see him go,
11:15
but what a way to go. This
11:18
is the way. Also, they fly now. They fly
11:20
now. So I couldn't resist. Yeah,
11:22
they do fly now. And they all have Beskar armor. So
11:26
I guess it wasn't. Mandalorians
11:30
that saved Moff Gideon, it was just his own
11:32
imperial storm troopers, but with Beskar armor. Climbing
11:36
through a small hole into a
11:38
firefight, everyone will get killed. Why didn't Bo
11:40
just cut a hole to escape instead? Also,
11:42
how the hell did just five or 50,000 foot fall? The
11:46
force. What
11:48
if all the sick Mandalorians were imps designed
11:51
to sneak in and kill Mandos in orbit?
11:54
Oh no, I think that's Axe Wolves and his team. Yeah,
11:59
all the ones like. Above orbit. Yeah,
12:01
I think those are the ones Those
12:04
are the ones I think that are against everyone
12:06
and they're with Gideon People
12:13
really voting for him below really people got
12:15
one below. I don't know people saying 9 to 10 man
12:17
dude 3% 7 to 8
12:23
out of 10 the second biggest but most people liked it With
12:27
all of the sick Mandalorians
12:29
where Imps designed to sneak in and kill the Mandos in
12:31
orbit, I believe
12:33
that the ones in orbit are actually the betrayers.
12:36
Too many plot holes to mention, but the one that concerns
12:38
me the most is the lack of female representation
12:40
in this episode. Thank God another man dies.
12:43
Revenge of the sixth. Down
12:45
with men.
12:48
When people say no one hates Star Wars more than
12:50
Star Wars fans, it's like, yeah, bro, we possess
12:52
the appropriate level of understanding to call out the
12:54
Star Wars BS when we see it. Absolutely!
12:57
Finally someone gets it. Damien Wayne.
13:00
Bo being a leader has already got 50 people
13:02
dead. She's
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not a very good leader. Love watching this episode
13:07
and I can't wait for the finale next week. We
13:09
should have gotten to this point earlier in the season though.
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Rest in peace, Paz!
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Poor Paz. for
13:16
poor Paz. I
13:19
really liked him.
13:23
I think it would have been cooler if Moff Gideon flew down to
13:25
finish off Paz in front of Bo.
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Give some Negan vibes and us more
13:30
motivation to want him dead. It
13:33
kind of was like a Negan vibe in the end, wasn't it?
13:35
Lizzo could have saved Paz Vizsla. Yeah
13:38
dude, she would have just come in and been like, everyone,
13:40
let's stop fighting. Gidion
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and Armor Helmets both have spikes, so
13:47
maybe they're mauled Elorians. I think so.
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I think she's been a spy this whole
13:53
time. What is of concern
13:56
to me is what will happen to Grogu
13:58
now.
14:00
That'd be funny if they get separated again at the
14:03
end of the season. Everyone's gonna be like, okay, which
14:05
show are they gonna be reunited in?
14:09
You knew Paz was gonna die when Bo didn't cut the hole
14:11
big enough for him. Yeah,
14:14
pretty tiny hole. Her being a spy makes
14:16
sense. She made it out of that sewer when
14:18
they went, when they were overrun and
14:21
made a final stand, but made it out fine.
14:26
out here wiping the Mandalorians out.
14:28
Dude, he just had the
14:30
whole freaking empire's fleet
14:34
on Mandalore just chilling, building everything.
14:36
This is Exegol. This is his Exegol.
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Do you think Gideon is an ex-Maul loyalist?
14:44
Armor and helmet kind of match.
14:46
Also, States Star
14:49
Wars Celebration was lit AF. Oh, I'm
14:51
glad you had fun.
14:53
Now that Mandalorian kid is fatherless.
14:56
I know, sad. Am
14:58
I the only one who feels like there's lack of space
15:00
domination from the Empire? I just want to see some Star
15:03
Destroyers gameplay, big love.
15:06
In time demon
15:08
team, in time. I think once Thrawn
15:11
comes, it'll be just kind of game over. Lego
15:13
set leaked Mandalorian and Ty Interceptor
15:16
in dog fight. Can't
15:18
wait for Thrawn. I hope Luke and Ahsoka
15:20
show up at the finale.
15:22
Oh, the Lego set leaked.
15:27
Luke and Ahsoka? Oh,
15:30
Luke over Ahsoka? I could see Ahsoka
15:33
showing up. I think they're kind of done with Luke,
15:35
but I hope not. I don't
15:37
know, I don't see them putting Luke in again because
15:39
people will just be like, oh, it's fast service.
15:43
Now we know how armor got waters of
15:45
Mandalore. What do you
15:48
mean? Gideon doesn't need
15:50
wolf or any other Mandalorian because he has all
15:52
the best car metal already. I
15:55
am IG-12. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no,
15:57
yes. How did Gideon know
15:59
Beau had a
16:00
the darksaber besides not seeing it on Din.
16:05
I'm telling you man I think because Axe Woe's is
16:07
a betrayer. Yeah
16:11
I think that's why. So
16:14
you think if Gideon loses again it'll
16:17
just be a repeat? On
16:21
season two's finale? I mean
16:23
they don't want to do a season two finale so with the ending
16:25
of this one you want to make sure that
16:27
Mando and Grogu aren't separated because
16:29
people just be like, okay,
16:32
clearly that means nothing. We're just going to get a Boba Fett season
16:34
two and they're going to be back together. So
16:36
you also don't want Moff Gideon losing
16:39
to Din. If
16:42
Moff Gideon loses, he needs to die because
16:46
he's not really that big of a villain
16:49
to be
16:51
around for this long. They'd
16:53
be dragging on too much. So
16:55
I think they need a bigger villain, Which would be Thrawn
16:58
and and they've already set it up that Thrawn
17:00
and Gideon don't like each other or he
17:02
didn't Yeah, probably so Gideon doesn't like
17:04
Thrawn. He wants him out of there So
17:08
pretty sure Thrawn just gonna kill him
17:10
And also the fact that he made that phase
17:13
three Darktrooper
17:16
armor,
17:18
which is resistant to lightsabers
17:23
Does that mean the people that rescued Gideon were just his own
17:25
forces in best guard Yeah, I think so Richard really
17:27
wish the show made more strategic sense considering
17:30
how militant the Mandos are canonically.
17:32
Why would they follow imps into an obvious
17:35
trap?
17:37
Yeah, that wasn't very bright. They're
17:40
like, Hey, why is everything kind of changing? This isn't
17:42
really a cave anymore. It's just kind of Imperial. I'm
17:44
gonna keep going anyway. You think
17:46
the armor and Moff Gideon's helmets have anything to
17:48
do with Maul because of the horns? Yeah,
17:51
yeah, I always thought so. I mean, I made a
17:53
bunch of videos about that costume design 10
17:55
out of 10 rating two out of 10 action
17:58
doesn't equals good
18:01
Was the monster Zillow look similar? No,
18:03
it was just some dinosaur. Watching Revenge of
18:05
the Sith to clean, cleanse my pallet so different
18:07
than this bullshit Jon is creating. I
18:09
can't believe how bad Star Wars is in comparison. I'm
18:12
hurt, says Sorin. You know, this
18:15
whole season, the Mandalorian has felt really just
18:18
kind of all over the place and weak.
18:20
This episode
18:22
actually felt like the Mandalorian
18:24
meets Game of Thrones and
18:26
I liked it. I
18:28
didn't mind this episode. I just, I'm
18:31
frustrated that it's at episode seven of
18:33
eight. This should have been really episode four.
18:37
Four, five. Five are the latest.
18:39
The Praetorian
18:42
guards had Mandalorian helmets. Yes.
18:45
What? No, they didn't. No,
18:49
they didn't. See this. Nope,
18:51
they did not. They
18:54
did not. Another
18:57
Mid-Alorian episode, Mass of El. Damn,
19:00
if Ax and the Armor are with Gideon, then the
19:02
rest of them are dying, unless the New
19:04
Republic shows up. I don't think the New
19:06
Republic's gonna show up. No one's going
19:08
to Mandalore.
19:10
The title of the episode is Spies, hinting at something.
19:13
Maybe the Armor is a spy, maybe multiple Mandalorians. I
19:16
think it's the Armor, man. But
19:18
she also like, she also beat
19:20
up the,
19:23
He'll beat up the imps on Navarro
19:26
in the first season. Why
19:30
else would Gideon care about the Darksaber, the planet, or
19:32
have the armor if he wasn't a Mandalorian or part of
19:34
the armor as plan? I
19:37
think Gideon is just an obsessor
19:39
over combining
19:43
every single faction into one because
19:45
it's true if you do do that. I mean you're kind
19:47
of unstoppable. Like a Jedi
19:49
Mandalorian. He
19:52
can't really be beat.
20:00
like we are trying to find reason to hate this episode.
20:03
Are people hating this episode?
20:06
I haven't seen it. So I got two different chats, right? This one's a super
20:08
chat. And then this one's the real chat,
20:10
which you guys see on the screen, but I can't actually,
20:13
unless I like turn my head, every time I turn my
20:15
head here, I'm looking at regular chat.
20:18
And then this one is, is Watto styles
20:21
only money. Okay.
20:24
What do you think of this theory?
20:26
Is my pads, Vizsla, Funko Pop going
20:28
up in value today. Also, is this John's way
20:30
of subconsciously quitting the show? Stretch?
20:33
It's not a stretch. Nothing's
20:36
a stretch. The Praetorian Guards
20:38
had mandamoring helmets.
20:39
No.
20:40
I'm looking at it right now. They didn't.
20:44
As stayed back to keep the troops from chasing, there's
20:47
always what could have been after
20:49
tragedy, but there's more pressing matters. There's
20:51
no choice.
20:54
Nibiru. Every episode in the season
20:56
is 30, 40 minutes fluff with only the last five
20:58
to seven minutes propelling the story forward. Also,
21:00
Beau couldn't just cut one
21:02
giant hole.
21:04
Could have just cut one giant hole.
21:07
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like a massive one. I think, like
21:11
all the way. Would
21:14
like to see Luke show up and just go off on
21:16
everyone, but honestly could see Ahsoka showing up to
21:18
kind of set up her show possibly. What do you think? I
21:20
think it'll be Ahsoka. Luke showing up again, is gonna
21:22
be, people are gonna be like, again?
21:26
Gideon, three minutes fluff with only
21:28
the last five to seven minutes propelling the story forward.
21:30
Also, Beau couldn't just cut one
21:32
giant hole. Could've
21:34
just cut one giant hole.
21:36
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like a massive one. I'm like, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch,
21:41
like all the way.
21:43
Would like to see Luke show up and just go off on
21:46
everyone, but honestly could see Ahsoka showing up to
21:48
kind of set up her show, possibly, what do you think? I think
21:50
it'll be Ahsoka. Luke showing up again,
21:52
people are gonna be like, again?
21:55
Gideon Horns, Armor
21:58
Horns, Sodemo. Grogu
22:00
in IG was too silly. He should have
22:02
stayed with Luke. This season can't be saved. All
22:04
leads back to
22:05
RAAAAAY! Project
22:09
Necromancer equals sequel Palpatine. Where
22:13
did he talk about Project Necromancer? No,
22:16
it wasn't the Mythosaur. Master
22:19
Grogu wasn't the Mythosaur. There's just
22:21
some dinosaur. I
22:23
think armor is Rook cast. Sorry, not
22:26
Ren. Yeah, me too. Gideon
22:28
knew Bo had the darksaber and not Din.
22:32
Yeah, cause the axe woves. A
22:34
theory you reckon Thrawn will show up at the end? I think so.
22:40
I have a feeling Din is gonna remove his helmet. If
22:42
Paz had ran, would they not have opened the door and chased
22:44
him over with the sword? Oh,
22:47
you think Gideon's part of the armorers plan? You
22:51
think the armor is in charge. Okay,
22:55
spam one if you think the armor is a spy. Spam
22:58
two if you think Axe Wove is a spy. The
23:02
title of the episode is Spies Hinting
23:04
at Something. Maybe the armor is a spy,
23:07
maybe multiple Mandalorians.
23:10
If this show didn't
23:12
tie into the sequels, I would be ecstatic. Still
23:15
a great episode, says J-Mac.
23:17
I feel like the show has gone full circle
23:19
and is now lost. Why is Grogu there if he's not
23:22
gonna use the force? Feels like the Disney
23:24
execs are involved. How
23:26
did the guards cut through this Beskar
23:28
armor? Oh, hey,
23:30
it's best to know they went through his
23:33
openings and stuff.
23:36
Ah, everyone thinks the armor is shady.
23:40
Shady. You
23:43
think the Night Owls are the spies or the
23:45
armorer? Could
23:48
be both at this point, to be honest. I
23:51
mean, no brainer for the night owls
23:53
because they're just like a pay for hire.
23:57
She's always been there's always been something
23:59
off about the armor. Just
24:01
something weird. You
24:04
know?
24:07
3% of people who voted for below are definitely
24:09
miserable people. You are not being objective at this
24:11
point while you go watch the show. I wouldn't say
24:13
they're miserable. I just would say that they didn't like
24:15
the show. As
24:17
Vizsla says, there is too many proceeds
24:20
to kill them all by himself. If
24:22
he had backup with Bo, he could have survived.
24:24
Yeah, then it's, I know.
24:27
I know John wanted to die
24:29
I guess and for whatever reason Were
24:33
the best car Imperials we
24:35
were the best car Imperials Mando super commandos
24:39
Were the best car Imperials Mando super commandos. No,
24:42
I think they were just stormtroopers But
24:45
best car I think that's what Gideon was
24:48
alluding to he wanted stormtroopers who
24:50
were Jedi and Mandalorian There
24:53
is no longer the Mando show. It's all about Bo
24:56
Katan. I like Disney. It's
24:58
like Disney continues to have an aberration
25:01
against strong male leads. At this point, we are not
25:03
dealing with a corporation, but more like a cult.
25:06
I can get behind that. I
25:12
liked the episode, but I didn't like the last bit, says
25:14
anime. Riley says another mid-delorean
25:16
episode, Mass of El. If acts in the armor are
25:19
with Gideon, then the rest of them
25:21
are dying. unless the New Republic
25:23
show up. They
25:25
ain't, they don't care. Who are the
25:27
members in the Shadow Council? We
25:31
got Pelion, which is cool.
25:33
We got Gideon. We
25:36
got Hux's dad. And
25:39
then two other random people I don't know about. No
25:44
idea.
25:47
Do you think the Imperial Troopers are clones
25:50
of Gideon Something else or not
25:52
clones at all. I don't think they didn't just
25:54
they're just oh, you know what? Damn. What
25:57
if they are clones? What if they're actually like Jangle
26:00
clones.
26:04
Or are they Force Sensors? No, if they were Force Sensors,
26:06
man, they would have wreaked havoc. Emma
26:09
is not happy with the breaking of lore. Let's
26:11
just say she's going to wage her war on Kathy
26:13
Kennedy. What did she not like, Elizabeth?
26:15
What did she not like? Here, the Praetorian
26:17
guards look exactly like Emperor's Shadow
26:19
Guard from Force Unleashed. Compare
26:22
and you'll see.
26:24
Except they're
26:26
not black.
26:28
So
26:31
that would make me victorious. Last
26:33
episode feels like a fever dream. Yeah,
26:35
last week, Bo should have cut a larger hole
26:37
after dinner was taken away, that way more Mandos could fit
26:39
through the hole and take the fight. Pursued in
26:41
afterwards, she could also go and cut a hole
26:44
in the rear door to go warn
26:48
the others.
26:49
Yes, but she didn't. It would have been cool if
26:51
Gideon came down and forcibly took off
26:54
Mando's helmet when they captured him. That would
26:56
have been huge disrespect. That would have been sick.
26:59
Why didn't they do this? Do
27:03
you think Bo will die in the finale?
27:06
Seems like the only way we will get to focus on Mando
27:08
again. No, they're not killing Bo, dude.
27:11
There's no way. Dude,
27:15
when have they ever killed? Really?
27:20
When have they ever really like actually
27:22
killed? No, I'm thinking about it. They've never
27:24
killed a female character
27:27
besides Jin Erso. Like
27:30
Riva lives through like 50 stab wounds
27:33
from Anakin and Vader.
27:39
Oh no, the girl in Kenobi died. There
27:44
you go. You
27:46
think the mythosaur plays a role in the season finale?
27:49
I would say so. Imagine Grogu Force
27:51
crushed the door. Yeah,
27:55
why didn't he do this? Doesn't he have like latent
27:57
powers? Totally
28:00
makes sense for the armor to be a spy. The episode
28:03
was called The Spies, and of course she left
28:05
Beau when they were about to go to the Great
28:07
Forge. Dude, she's in on it. I
28:10
mean, those horns should let you know that something's up
28:12
with that kick. If Luke showed up
28:14
at the end of season two, will Han and
28:16
Leia show up at the end of season three?
28:20
That'd be kind of cool, but no. Final
28:24
episode, Mythosaur Saves the Day.
28:26
Just imagine him riding in.
28:32
And Bo is riding it. Or
28:35
Grogan. Notice
28:37
the episode is called the spies. Very
28:39
telling.
28:41
Very telling.
28:43
Ahsoka and Sabine and Ezra. Remember
28:46
Ezra helped Clan Ren before, which...
28:49
where are they? Small unit tactics
28:51
retreat and reposition and Paz was a
28:53
buffer. How
28:55
do you think Boba will fit into the finale? I
28:58
don't know. It
29:00
would be cool if he was in the finale, but he's ruling
29:02
with respect right now. But I think he would
29:04
actually be pretty bad. I think he'd write him in pretty
29:07
badass.
29:09
No, spam B if you think Bo
29:11
was gonna be in there.
29:16
I'm gonna be cool. Moff
29:18
getting without a moustache is cursed. Grogu
29:21
can wield the saber. Oh, that's why he looked
29:23
weird. Why is he like
29:26
different?
29:28
Grogu can wield the saber with IG-12? He could. He
29:32
absolutely
29:32
could. Give a good point. Absolutely
29:35
could.
29:38
That'd be kind of
29:39
wild. Din needs
29:41
to be rescued a third time in the season. What
29:43
the hell are they doing for this character? Yo, everyone's
29:45
saying B. They all want Boba to return. Well,
29:48
I'm thinking 90% of you. What
29:51
is Project Necromancer? Necromancer. Yeah,
29:54
when did they talk about Project Necromancer again? I
29:56
think it was last episode, right?
30:00
That's it.
30:02
Yeah, remember, where'd they see this?
30:06
Yeah, well, I was in Tamad's Celebration.
30:12
I think it's safe to say no Mandos freed Gideon
30:14
considering his soldiers have Beskar armor,
30:17
explaining what happened in episode five. And
30:19
I don't think the Night Owls are with Gideon because
30:22
the new Lego set that was announced
30:25
What if Thrawn returns with Chiss Fleet?
30:30
Armor leads
30:31
Bow to unite everyone
30:34
and lead them to Mandalore, even though they got
30:36
Sanctuary on Navarro, Definite Spy.
30:41
Raghu should have Force-choked Gideon.
30:43
They're solid, I mean, yeah, it's like he forgot to use the Force,
30:46
I don't know. Honestly theory, I've
30:48
had, never had anything against the Praetorian
30:50
Guards, there are any feelings towards them. Tonight those characters
30:53
will forever make me sick because
30:55
of paths. The
30:56
fact that Grogu was, oh, big one from
30:59
Lefty, but not Looney. The fact that
31:01
Grogu was sitting on Bo's lap this episode
31:04
and Ray
31:05
is getting a new movie and Din
31:08
just got captured makes me think the force
31:10
is female in Disney Star Wars Strikes Again. I'm
31:12
worried Din is getting written off the show in
31:15
favor of Bo Katan.
31:19
I don't think Din is going anywhere.
31:21
I just can't see that happening.
31:25
I mean, like how to destroy a franchise, you know, with
31:27
one move. People would be like, what, why?
31:32
Was that creature that destroyed Mandalorian,
31:35
Land Cruiser, the Mythosaur? No,
31:37
just a dinosaur. Also, Baby Yoda operating the IG-12 was
31:39
so cute and awesome. I love this episode. Ah, good.
31:42
I'm glad you like it. Was there any reason why
31:44
Dinh Paz or anyone didn't use whistling birds?
31:48
I don't know, maybe they're out.
31:50
Lameo, the first- yeah, kinda seemed like they could've done
31:52
a little more when they were fighting, hey?
31:55
Huh. At
31:57
least, you know, like, I feel like You
32:00
know, they had some rockets or something. The
32:02
first order is like the Imperial Remnants Plan
32:05
F. Hux's father, the literal clown, no
32:07
one's taking seriously.
32:10
Yeah, why did Gideon say that his
32:12
father is
32:14
more of a fan of cloning than
32:17
anyone else? What
32:20
was up with that?
32:22
Bo or Din will ride the Mythosaur on a rampage
32:25
through the Imperial base, destroying all enemies
32:27
until Bo stabs Moth with the Darksaber.
32:29
I have spoken. Ouch.
32:31
Yeah,
32:36
Mythosaur rampaging through the Imperial Base
32:38
would be cool. Rest in peace, Mando pirate
32:40
ship. We hardly knew ye. That was
32:42
a cool ship. The Bean, Tano
32:45
feeling they'll show Vince's
32:48
ebb shown earlier. Oh, although
32:50
connect Tano series to Thrawn fun
32:52
episode, but lazy late writing. Much love.
32:55
Thanks, chair.
32:58
Yeah,
32:58
I mean, seeing Zeb kind of does
33:00
make you think that maybe we'll see a Soaker or Sabine or something,
33:02
but
33:03
I don't know. One episode left, dude. I
33:08
really feel like nothing has happened. I
33:10
think it's possible to still enjoy stuff, even if they
33:12
incorporate sequel stuff. You just can't, you
33:15
can, you can still just ignore
33:17
and not watch the sequels. If other shows,
33:19
movies use sequel stuff and make it
33:21
cool, why not?
33:23
I'm just really bothered by the sequels,
33:25
so for me it just bugs me. But if
33:27
other people enjoy it, that's great. I
33:29
feel that the armor has already been there to help
33:31
forge Bescar armor for Gideon. Rogu
33:34
is the spy. Axe
33:37
is a red herring. Armor is
33:39
the Scooby-Doo villain, and the Mythosaur destroys
33:41
the Imp base after Bo Pais plays
33:44
the Power Rangers song on a fleet. I
33:47
desperately wanna see Phase Zero Clone Trooper.
33:51
I don't get how they can make the Mandos look
33:53
so weak in our very capable fighters other than
33:55
Paz at the end and Din, which
33:58
they made them more badass. Yeah, they- They kind
34:00
of look do, kind of look do, kind
34:02
of do look incapable. Rick
34:05
Famuyiwa has not missed on any
34:07
Mando episodes. Thank God he's directing the finale.
34:10
They need to give him a movie at this rate.
34:14
For a cult, didn't he direct one of the episodes that was
34:16
kind of lame this season? For
34:18
a culture of warriors, these people suck at war.
34:22
Yeah. What's up, Jens? 27 months, thank
34:24
you. Someone tries to say Kathleen
34:26
is doing a good job. Many
34:29
people, you just go on Twitter. I don't think
34:31
the armor or wolves work with Gideon. The
34:33
people that were already on Mandalore literally knew
34:35
the base was already there.
34:37
And maybe they're the ones to
34:39
cripple defenses on world's ship.
34:43
I don't think the people that were on Mandalore already
34:45
knew about the base. I
34:49
just think that they would have announced that first,
34:52
no? Or,
34:55
you know, Moff Gideon could have been paying them
34:57
to be scouts. It's
35:01
possible. Is Paz
35:03
Vizsla dead or did he just pass out? He's
35:07
dead. He got
35:09
stabbed several times.
35:11
For a second I thought Bubba Frick was joining his
35:13
team. Yeah, that'd be cool. What's
35:16
up, music? Your boy says, Praetorian guards
35:18
have always had those helmets. Yeah, it's
35:20
the same. There's
35:23
no, there are no horns on their helmets. What's
35:25
up, John? It was fantastic.
35:27
Felt like most of the Game of Thrones show.
35:30
Most like Game of Thrones. The
35:32
season has come into focus. It's about gathering
35:34
the Mandalorian tribes, and this is a climax
35:37
for that purpose. Yeah,
35:38
you know, you have a point there. It's doing what it set
35:40
out to do, but I just feel like could
35:42
have been done a little earlier. Batmace
35:44
about to make another return and
35:47
create another tsunami and save Mando. Also,
35:49
Skinny Pete in this episode. Skinny Pete was the
35:51
guy that was always like super baked, right? Yeah,
35:54
I think so. Yeah, I think
35:56
so. So I'm going to be tweeting about it.
35:58
So make sure you go follow me at realsw. theory
36:00
on the tweets. The
36:03
Mando pirates took them right into it. It's a trap.
36:06
Beau foreshadowing, more Beau foreshadowed
36:09
dropping the ball in that fight. When
36:11
she spoke of her loss of the ship,
36:14
led them into a trap and then froze up when the door
36:16
closed. I know she just like ran the other way. I'm like, what
36:18
are you doing? Why are you going the other way?
36:22
Cutting a hole takes time. They would have left. Don't
36:25
think so. They could cut like an entire, They cut
36:28
the whole door off. It's
36:30
so good seeing red elites groups
36:32
being badass. Also, I think their helmet are
36:35
more Greek in style. I'm not disappointed once
36:37
in this season. Would you say these are different
36:41
Praetorian guards than the ones
36:43
in the sequels? I would say so. They're not the same.
36:47
I mean, they just got the same weapons.
36:50
The Praetorian guards had T visors,
36:52
just looked them up from the sequels and you can easily
36:55
see there's a big difference.
36:58
I wanna be real with you, I forgot what they looked like. Praetorian
37:03
guards. Oh
37:06
yeah. Yeah,
37:08
these guys did have visors, eh? You're
37:13
right. That's kinda cool. Yeah,
37:17
that is pretty cool. They're
37:20
like a Mandalorian version of them. I
37:24
bet you that Gideon ends up taking Din's
37:27
helmet. Disrespecting
37:30
this man. Armor and bow are gonna... Les
37:33
out? Oh Jesus. I think
37:35
the Imperial guards turned into the Praetorian guards.
37:38
The look so similar.
37:40
They could have
37:43
and this could be like an early version of them but I
37:47
don't think so. I think they're different in episode 9
37:49
Hux is revealed to be a spy commander Hux appeared
37:51
in this episode Is he currently a spy for the new republic?
37:54
When did he become a spy? No,
37:57
I think Hux became a spy when he just stopped
37:59
liking Kylo Ren- It
38:01
wasn't like something he originally planned to do. Project
38:04
Necromancer was mentioned in that meeting. Josh
38:06
called it since Thrawn will use Knight
38:08
Sister magic to raise the dead.
38:12
What meeting?
38:14
Oh, the meeting with the Shadow Collective, whatever
38:16
it was.
38:19
My
38:19
theory is that Ahsoka will show up and draw
38:22
out Thrawn, he'll kill Gideon. Din
38:24
will take his helmet off and Thrawn will
38:27
bait Ahsoka with Ezra. If
38:29
both are spies, then how the F are
38:31
Din and Bo getting out of the finale?
38:37
We
38:37
mean both are spies Maybe
38:40
the spy will be a general Hux origin
38:43
story. Yikes No, thanks.
38:45
Did you know in the Colin Travaro version Hux
38:47
impales himself
38:48
on core sunt? I believe it was with mace
38:51
windu's lightsaber
38:53
What's up big cheddar first time
38:55
super chat love the watch parties season has been
38:57
all over the place but I enjoyed the episode.
39:00
Glad you enjoyed it, man.
39:01
About some of these villains and characters
39:04
coming out of the woodworks after the Empire
39:06
fell.
39:07
Yeah, I mean, they're probably just not afraid anymore.
39:11
Detoxing for life says, Theory, grown up in the
39:14
80s, Carl Weathers was one of my idols along with Sylvester
39:16
Stallone because of Rocky IV. Does anyone
39:18
care, Weathers has introduced and
39:21
birthed IG-12. So dope,
39:23
take my money Disney, IG12 toy.
39:26
Yeah, maybe we can ride it.
39:33
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