[SPOILERS] PART 1 - THE MANDALORIAN SEASON 3 EPISODE 7 AFTER WATCH PARTY

[SPOILERS] PART 1 - THE MANDALORIAN SEASON 3 EPISODE 7 AFTER WATCH PARTY

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[SPOILERS] PART 1 - THE MANDALORIAN SEASON 3 EPISODE 7 AFTER WATCH PARTY

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0:01

We would be long and if

0:03

you would join us. Hey, guys,

0:05

how's it going? Welcome back to another Star Wars Theory podcast.

0:10

OK, you know what? Initial

0:12

impressions. I like the episode, except there

0:14

are some really interesting moves

0:17

that I didn't get. Like, why didn't Bo

0:19

just use the Darksaber to cut open where

0:21

Din was at? And she could have, you know, kicked the thing in before

0:24

Moff Gideon came down

0:25

and she could they all could have gone through there and helped him.

0:29

Uh, Paz Vizsla didn't need to die. He could have just

0:31

kept shooting and moved backwards. You

0:34

know, I mean, I really liked

0:36

his character. I don't know. I'm sad

0:38

he's dead. Pretorian guards

0:41

link the sequel trilogy. Not

0:43

happy about it. Cope, I guess.

0:48

Yeah. Hmm.

0:52

Like a lot of this could have happened by episode five. The

0:56

armorer set them up, works for imps. Yeah,

0:58

I could see that. I could see

1:00

that. If Bo don't use the

1:02

saber to open the door, I know. They look

1:05

like Boba Fett prototype armor. I remember

1:07

George saying they were supposed to be an

1:09

army of them. Yeah, right. Ela wasted

1:11

potential, rest in peace, pass. Great episode sucks.

1:14

It took this long to get there. Yeah,

1:16

like an epi- This could have been like an episode five kind of thing.

1:19

Does the white pirate have a super battle droid head for

1:21

his shoulder armor? I

1:23

also loved how grief telling the droid

1:26

to notice markings, like

1:28

Dex tells Kenobi, droids don't pay attention

1:31

to them in episode two. Mandloor

1:33

is a perfect analogy for the US, says

1:36

X. A perfect analogy

1:38

for everywhere, especially North America,

1:40

I would say. They

1:43

took Ruggu's pod out of Mando's ship since he's

1:46

probably riding with Beau now, letting go of Mando.

1:48

He def can't fit with IG

1:50

suit, much love from New York. Hey, what's up,

1:52

New York? 10 out

1:54

of 10 episodes just because of Grogu in ID 12.

1:58

was oust when I oust thrawn That'll

2:00

end well. Yeah, that won't end well for Gideon. Can

2:02

you tell me that much? Long

2:04

live the Empire. Great

2:07

episode. Sucks it took this long to get here. Moff

2:09

Gideon was the best part of the show. Killing Paz is

2:11

metaphorically Jon Favreau heading out.

2:14

I don't know. I feel like he just probably wanted to kill off his character.

2:17

But his character was dope. I liked it. Well,

2:19

he was a good character. He

2:21

was kind of like the... Ah,

2:24

like from Gladiator, the big German guy. I

2:27

know who it's Ralph plays

2:29

it. I think his name is Ralph Muller or something.

2:32

The big German gladiator. That's

2:36

who he reminds me of.

2:37

Armor is Ursa Wren,

2:39

call it. Dragoo

2:41

lost his force ability after training.

2:44

Yeah, what the freak, man? He's

2:46

just watching. Like, train

2:49

two years with Luke? Pull?

2:52

Alright, let's do a pull. Let's

2:54

do a poll. 9 to 10.

2:59

7 to 8. 5 to 6.

3:03

4 below.

3:04

All

3:09

right, let's see what you guys got.

3:13

Damn dude, favorite Mandalorian is gone, tearing up.

3:16

But oh my God, dude was a badass on the way

3:18

out. Love seeing the secret Imperial counsel

3:20

too. 9 out of 10. Where

3:23

is the N1 currently? Mando, Bin, and Bose?

3:26

I think it's on... I

3:29

guess it's not on Navarro. Or is

3:31

it? Yeah, I think

3:33

it's on Navarro. Hmm? When

3:36

they did the pirate thing, it's on Navarro.

3:39

If she had used the saber

3:41

to open up the front door, they would have all been mowed

3:43

down one by one while going through. I

3:45

hated the last few episodes, but that was sick.

3:49

I don't think they would have been mowed down because they

3:51

could have just all put their

3:54

blasters through the whole shooting. John's

3:58

character dies, he wasn't mentioned.

4:00

to help on Filoni's movie drama

4:02

with John and KK. Are they trying to hide him leaving?

4:04

6.7 out of 10 episode for me. Mando

4:06

has been sidelined hard this season. Kathleen

4:09

Kennedy can't have a strong masculine character like

4:11

Paz. So patriarchal. Yes, Bo-Katan.

4:15

I don't see a problem with the Praetorian guards

4:18

showing up. I don't care if they were from the sequel

4:20

trilogy. They still low-key badass. 9

4:23

out of 10 episode in my opinion says Connor.

4:25

Hope Thrawn in last episode and Caps

4:27

Gideon.

4:29

You love you, Thierry. I love you too, Connor. Yeah,

4:31

him wanting Thrawn out is not going to

4:34

not going to go well. Not going

4:36

to go well. John is out.

4:39

That's why he has nothing to do with the future announcements.

4:41

Paz dying is proof. I'm

4:44

sorry, but I couldn't get into this episode at all after

4:46

the last six episodes. Big L season, no magic.

4:48

Yeah, feeling a little bit bummed because of the

4:50

whole season, but this episode was fun.

4:53

It had me intrigued and interested while

4:55

I was watching it. Any

4:58

sort of thing with the sequel trilogy just turns me off.

5:01

I'm so sorry. It just does. I'm

5:03

not sorry. It's just the way it is. Pretorian

5:06

Guard seemed more badass than they

5:08

were in the Last Jedi. Great episode. Sad it was

5:10

this late in the game. I hope the finale

5:12

delivers. Why

5:14

was she gonna make a bottleneck with

5:16

the saber right in front of the soldiers to save Mando?

5:19

If she made a hole, they would have got shot

5:21

going through.

5:23

There

5:27

must've been a way out of that man. I mean, like they could just

5:29

put their, they could blind fire, they could like put

5:31

their arms through the freaking hole

5:33

there and start shooting. I mean, there's just so many different

5:35

ways. This

5:38

is Star Wars says little G-Wagon. Why the armor

5:40

and Gideon's helmet so similar? Because

5:43

she's a spy.

5:46

Calling it, man. This

5:48

episode has some incredible shots. Hey

5:51

Theory, do you think Din will die in the next episode?

5:53

Also, how do you rate this one and

5:55

what was your favorite and least favorite thing about

5:57

it? Least favorite thing, Paz dies.

6:00

Um, Victorian guards also, I would

6:02

say most

6:05

favorite thing. Grogu

6:08

in the, in the IG 12. That was funny. Uh,

6:12

I don't think, I

6:13

don't think Din's going to die, man. What's

6:16

up pet shop.

6:18

Two, two months. What do you think will happen

6:20

to pass? Visible son. He's going to turn to the dark side.

6:23

This is why I serve Boca tan crease.

6:26

Wise Din written

6:28

by ChatGPT. Reading

6:31

the chat while watching the episode was a bad idea. The

6:33

EPs hadn't even started yet and people started to hate.

6:36

I think Star Wars fans have lost the ability to

6:38

feel happiness. Best episodes yet. No,

6:40

I don't think they've lost the ability. I think they're just tired.

6:44

I think some of them, yeah, have lost the ability, but

6:46

some of them are just tired. Great

6:50

app, but probably because of the comparison to the rest

6:52

of the series. I mean, compared to last

6:54

episode, you know, this was a great one.

6:57

The brains playing space croquet.

6:59

As Vizsla is to is to manly,

7:02

the force is female.

7:04

Not bad. What you think happens in the finale?

7:08

In the finale. Moff

7:10

Gideon probably gets pretty far with Mandalore, but

7:12

I would love it if like the rest of the fleet shows

7:15

up. However, I would also love it if.

7:19

Boba

7:19

Fett showed up, but that's not enough. I

7:21

think axe woves

7:24

and the entire night owls are loyal to

7:26

Gideon.

7:30

I'm going to call it right here.

7:32

I think they're loyal to Gideon and they're not going to help. John,

7:35

no need for pads when we have Bo. I

7:38

like how Gideon was hiding on Mandalore

7:40

the whole time. Yeah,

7:42

he had his whole freaking empire there, man.

7:44

Great, terrible episode five out of 10. Bad

7:47

writing F. Sequel says the second sons.

7:51

As could have jet packed out of there before his jet pack got damaged.

7:53

They could have all jet packed out to be honest. Maybe

7:58

they're out of fuel. was

8:00

Deaf Mythosaur, same size, and

8:02

has cheek horns. It didn't have the cheek horns. I didn't see the

8:04

cheek horns. Did you guys see cheek horns on the Mythosaur?

8:06

I didn't see that.

8:09

Paz dying equals din doesn't die would

8:11

be too much. Yeah, there's no, dude, din's not

8:13

dying. There's no way. Imagine if Paz

8:15

pulled a predator and detonated himself, this is the

8:17

way. That would have been kind of dope though. That

8:21

would have been kind of sick. Why

8:24

was din the goal? Moff didn't want Grogu.

8:27

He

8:28

probably has a bone to pick with him, man. He

8:30

got him arrested and he beat him.

8:33

When Gideon was mentioning the army, he's probably the reason

8:35

the first order begins.

8:37

Yeah, that was not a mythosaur, definitely.

8:41

I think if Bo cut through the door to save Din, Gideon

8:43

would have killed Din, maybe.

8:45

Okay, spam one if you think Bo

8:47

should have cut right through the door. Spam two

8:50

if you think that would have got them killed.

8:52

I understand the bottleneck thing, that makes sense. But

8:54

I think there's just ways around it. Like she could have maybe like

8:58

poked circles in, man. And they could have

9:00

just like put their arms through it, shot

9:02

them all down. By

9:05

not using the saber to save Din, Grogu

9:07

not using any sort of force to save his father,

9:10

as not using the jet to get out of there, fun,

9:12

but annoying. Yeah, it's kind of like when Boa didn't use

9:14

his jetpack in the beginning of the show.

9:16

Just because Paz should have backed up, I don't

9:18

think this is what his character would have done.

9:22

What,

9:22

you think he wanted to die in honor

9:24

in battle? Maybe

9:28

some guy came in my work today claiming to work for Disney

9:30

and said that they were going to make a Mando movie.

9:34

Probably what Dave is doing. Don't

9:37

be upset about relations to sequel trilogy. Dave

9:39

hinted pretty recently that they were looking to avoid

9:41

the main storyline of the sequel trilogy

9:43

in an interview.

9:45

I hope so, dude. So

9:49

was Moff getting a Maul command

9:51

in the past? His helmet has horns on it. I

9:54

would think so. I would think he

9:56

was loyal to Maul. I

9:59

don't know why else. he

10:00

would have horns on his helmet, you know? I

10:02

feel like the other Imperials knew more about Thrawn's return.

10:05

They just keep Gideon out of it and let him do his thing

10:07

until Thrawn comes back. Yeah, probably. They're

10:09

just like laughing at Gideon, man. They

10:11

just think he's a joke. Did

10:14

K.K. kill off John's character or

10:16

is this John bowing out

10:18

gracefully from the show?

10:20

Little buddy, little. I'm sad, man.

10:23

This wasn't necessary, Theory. I know it wasn't necessary

10:25

at all. It makes me sad. Makes

10:28

me very sad. Moff

10:30

Gideon had a very similar helmet to the Armor. Yeah

10:33

dude, they're both in it together. She's

10:36

not good. Why do you think I made that video that she's Rook cast?

10:41

Never would have guessed Gideon was on Mandalore. Hey

10:43

Theory, what series did you like more this year?

10:46

Bad Batch or Mandalore? Uh, Bad

10:48

Batch. So

10:49

far. Armor must

10:51

be a spy. Makes too much sense. I

10:54

felt taken out of it when Din asked Grogu, you

10:56

good? And bro, they didn't even show

10:58

a wound where Paz got stabbed by the guard.

11:01

Yeah, you know when, and when he cracked

11:03

the stormtrooper's neck? Nothing.

11:06

No sound. It's Disney, man. They can't

11:08

do that stuff, I guess. I don't know.

11:10

I'm not sure. Dang,

11:13

Paz Vizsla is hardcore, sad to see him go,

11:15

but what a way to go. This

11:18

is the way. Also, they fly now. They fly

11:20

now. So I couldn't resist. Yeah,

11:22

they do fly now. And they all have Beskar armor. So

11:26

I guess it wasn't. Mandalorians

11:30

that saved Moff Gideon, it was just his own

11:32

imperial storm troopers, but with Beskar armor. Climbing

11:36

through a small hole into a

11:38

firefight, everyone will get killed. Why didn't Bo

11:40

just cut a hole to escape instead? Also,

11:42

how the hell did just five or 50,000 foot fall? The

11:46

force. What

11:48

if all the sick Mandalorians were imps designed

11:51

to sneak in and kill Mandos in orbit?

11:54

Oh no, I think that's Axe Wolves and his team. Yeah,

11:59

all the ones like. Above orbit. Yeah,

12:01

I think those are the ones Those

12:04

are the ones I think that are against everyone

12:06

and they're with Gideon People

12:13

really voting for him below really people got

12:15

one below. I don't know people saying 9 to 10 man

12:17

dude 3% 7 to 8

12:23

out of 10 the second biggest but most people liked it With

12:27

all of the sick Mandalorians

12:29

where Imps designed to sneak in and kill the Mandos in

12:31

orbit, I believe

12:33

that the ones in orbit are actually the betrayers.

12:36

Too many plot holes to mention, but the one that concerns

12:38

me the most is the lack of female representation

12:40

in this episode. Thank God another man dies.

12:43

Revenge of the sixth. Down

12:45

with men.

12:48

When people say no one hates Star Wars more than

12:50

Star Wars fans, it's like, yeah, bro, we possess

12:52

the appropriate level of understanding to call out the

12:54

Star Wars BS when we see it. Absolutely!

12:57

Finally someone gets it. Damien Wayne.

13:00

Bo being a leader has already got 50 people

13:02

dead. She's

13:05

not a very good leader. Love watching this episode

13:07

and I can't wait for the finale next week. We

13:09

should have gotten to this point earlier in the season though.

13:11

Rest in peace, Paz!

13:14

Poor Paz. for

13:16

poor Paz. I

13:19

really liked him.

13:23

I think it would have been cooler if Moff Gideon flew down to

13:25

finish off Paz in front of Bo.

13:28

Give some Negan vibes and us more

13:30

motivation to want him dead. It

13:33

kind of was like a Negan vibe in the end, wasn't it?

13:35

Lizzo could have saved Paz Vizsla. Yeah

13:38

dude, she would have just come in and been like, everyone,

13:40

let's stop fighting. Gidion

13:44

and Armor Helmets both have spikes, so

13:47

maybe they're mauled Elorians. I think so.

13:51

I think she's been a spy this whole

13:53

time. What is of concern

13:56

to me is what will happen to Grogu

13:58

now.

14:00

That'd be funny if they get separated again at the

14:03

end of the season. Everyone's gonna be like, okay, which

14:05

show are they gonna be reunited in?

14:09

You knew Paz was gonna die when Bo didn't cut the hole

14:11

big enough for him. Yeah,

14:14

pretty tiny hole. Her being a spy makes

14:16

sense. She made it out of that sewer when

14:18

they went, when they were overrun and

14:21

made a final stand, but made it out fine.

14:26

out here wiping the Mandalorians out.

14:28

Dude, he just had the

14:30

whole freaking empire's fleet

14:34

on Mandalore just chilling, building everything.

14:36

This is Exegol. This is his Exegol.

14:41

Do you think Gideon is an ex-Maul loyalist?

14:44

Armor and helmet kind of match.

14:46

Also, States Star

14:49

Wars Celebration was lit AF. Oh, I'm

14:51

glad you had fun.

14:53

Now that Mandalorian kid is fatherless.

14:56

I know, sad. Am

14:58

I the only one who feels like there's lack of space

15:00

domination from the Empire? I just want to see some Star

15:03

Destroyers gameplay, big love.

15:06

In time demon

15:08

team, in time. I think once Thrawn

15:11

comes, it'll be just kind of game over. Lego

15:13

set leaked Mandalorian and Ty Interceptor

15:16

in dog fight. Can't

15:18

wait for Thrawn. I hope Luke and Ahsoka

15:20

show up at the finale.

15:22

Oh, the Lego set leaked.

15:27

Luke and Ahsoka? Oh,

15:30

Luke over Ahsoka? I could see Ahsoka

15:33

showing up. I think they're kind of done with Luke,

15:35

but I hope not. I don't

15:37

know, I don't see them putting Luke in again because

15:39

people will just be like, oh, it's fast service.

15:43

Now we know how armor got waters of

15:45

Mandalore. What do you

15:48

mean? Gideon doesn't need

15:50

wolf or any other Mandalorian because he has all

15:52

the best car metal already. I

15:55

am IG-12. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no,

15:57

yes. How did Gideon know

15:59

Beau had a

16:00

the darksaber besides not seeing it on Din.

16:05

I'm telling you man I think because Axe Woe's is

16:07

a betrayer. Yeah

16:11

I think that's why. So

16:14

you think if Gideon loses again it'll

16:17

just be a repeat? On

16:21

season two's finale? I mean

16:23

they don't want to do a season two finale so with the ending

16:25

of this one you want to make sure that

16:27

Mando and Grogu aren't separated because

16:29

people just be like, okay,

16:32

clearly that means nothing. We're just going to get a Boba Fett season

16:34

two and they're going to be back together. So

16:36

you also don't want Moff Gideon losing

16:39

to Din. If

16:42

Moff Gideon loses, he needs to die because

16:46

he's not really that big of a villain

16:49

to be

16:51

around for this long. They'd

16:53

be dragging on too much. So

16:55

I think they need a bigger villain, Which would be Thrawn

16:58

and and they've already set it up that Thrawn

17:00

and Gideon don't like each other or he

17:02

didn't Yeah, probably so Gideon doesn't like

17:04

Thrawn. He wants him out of there So

17:08

pretty sure Thrawn just gonna kill him

17:10

And also the fact that he made that phase

17:13

three Darktrooper

17:16

armor,

17:18

which is resistant to lightsabers

17:23

Does that mean the people that rescued Gideon were just his own

17:25

forces in best guard Yeah, I think so Richard really

17:27

wish the show made more strategic sense considering

17:30

how militant the Mandos are canonically.

17:32

Why would they follow imps into an obvious

17:35

trap?

17:37

Yeah, that wasn't very bright. They're

17:40

like, Hey, why is everything kind of changing? This isn't

17:42

really a cave anymore. It's just kind of Imperial. I'm

17:44

gonna keep going anyway. You think

17:46

the armor and Moff Gideon's helmets have anything to

17:48

do with Maul because of the horns? Yeah,

17:51

yeah, I always thought so. I mean, I made a

17:53

bunch of videos about that costume design 10

17:55

out of 10 rating two out of 10 action

17:58

doesn't equals good

18:01

Was the monster Zillow look similar? No,

18:03

it was just some dinosaur. Watching Revenge of

18:05

the Sith to clean, cleanse my pallet so different

18:07

than this bullshit Jon is creating. I

18:09

can't believe how bad Star Wars is in comparison. I'm

18:12

hurt, says Sorin. You know, this

18:15

whole season, the Mandalorian has felt really just

18:18

kind of all over the place and weak.

18:20

This episode

18:22

actually felt like the Mandalorian

18:24

meets Game of Thrones and

18:26

I liked it. I

18:28

didn't mind this episode. I just, I'm

18:31

frustrated that it's at episode seven of

18:33

eight. This should have been really episode four.

18:37

Four, five. Five are the latest.

18:39

The Praetorian

18:42

guards had Mandalorian helmets. Yes.

18:45

What? No, they didn't. No,

18:49

they didn't. See this. Nope,

18:51

they did not. They

18:54

did not. Another

18:57

Mid-Alorian episode, Mass of El. Damn,

19:00

if Ax and the Armor are with Gideon, then the

19:02

rest of them are dying, unless the New

19:04

Republic shows up. I don't think the New

19:06

Republic's gonna show up. No one's going

19:08

to Mandalore.

19:10

The title of the episode is Spies, hinting at something.

19:13

Maybe the Armor is a spy, maybe multiple Mandalorians. I

19:16

think it's the Armor, man. But

19:18

she also like, she also beat

19:20

up the,

19:23

He'll beat up the imps on Navarro

19:26

in the first season. Why

19:30

else would Gideon care about the Darksaber, the planet, or

19:32

have the armor if he wasn't a Mandalorian or part of

19:34

the armor as plan? I

19:37

think Gideon is just an obsessor

19:39

over combining

19:43

every single faction into one because

19:45

it's true if you do do that. I mean you're kind

19:47

of unstoppable. Like a Jedi

19:49

Mandalorian. He

19:52

can't really be beat.

20:00

like we are trying to find reason to hate this episode.

20:03

Are people hating this episode?

20:06

I haven't seen it. So I got two different chats, right? This one's a super

20:08

chat. And then this one's the real chat,

20:10

which you guys see on the screen, but I can't actually,

20:13

unless I like turn my head, every time I turn my

20:15

head here, I'm looking at regular chat.

20:18

And then this one is, is Watto styles

20:21

only money. Okay.

20:24

What do you think of this theory?

20:26

Is my pads, Vizsla, Funko Pop going

20:28

up in value today. Also, is this John's way

20:30

of subconsciously quitting the show? Stretch?

20:33

It's not a stretch. Nothing's

20:36

a stretch. The Praetorian Guards

20:38

had mandamoring helmets.

20:39

No.

20:40

I'm looking at it right now. They didn't.

20:44

As stayed back to keep the troops from chasing, there's

20:47

always what could have been after

20:49

tragedy, but there's more pressing matters. There's

20:51

no choice.

20:54

Nibiru. Every episode in the season

20:56

is 30, 40 minutes fluff with only the last five

20:58

to seven minutes propelling the story forward. Also,

21:00

Beau couldn't just cut one

21:02

giant hole.

21:04

Could have just cut one giant hole.

21:07

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like a massive one. I think, like

21:11

all the way. Would

21:14

like to see Luke show up and just go off on

21:16

everyone, but honestly could see Ahsoka showing up to

21:18

kind of set up her show possibly. What do you think? I

21:20

think it'll be Ahsoka. Luke showing up again, is gonna

21:22

be, people are gonna be like, again?

21:26

Gideon, three minutes fluff with only

21:28

the last five to seven minutes propelling the story forward.

21:30

Also, Beau couldn't just cut one

21:32

giant hole. Could've

21:34

just cut one giant hole.

21:36

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like a massive one. I'm like, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch,

21:41

like all the way.

21:43

Would like to see Luke show up and just go off on

21:46

everyone, but honestly could see Ahsoka showing up to

21:48

kind of set up her show, possibly, what do you think? I think

21:50

it'll be Ahsoka. Luke showing up again,

21:52

people are gonna be like, again?

21:55

Gideon Horns, Armor

21:58

Horns, Sodemo. Grogu

22:00

in IG was too silly. He should have

22:02

stayed with Luke. This season can't be saved. All

22:04

leads back to

22:05

RAAAAAY! Project

22:09

Necromancer equals sequel Palpatine. Where

22:13

did he talk about Project Necromancer? No,

22:16

it wasn't the Mythosaur. Master

22:19

Grogu wasn't the Mythosaur. There's just

22:21

some dinosaur. I

22:23

think armor is Rook cast. Sorry, not

22:26

Ren. Yeah, me too. Gideon

22:28

knew Bo had the darksaber and not Din.

22:32

Yeah, cause the axe woves. A

22:34

theory you reckon Thrawn will show up at the end? I think so.

22:40

I have a feeling Din is gonna remove his helmet. If

22:42

Paz had ran, would they not have opened the door and chased

22:44

him over with the sword? Oh,

22:47

you think Gideon's part of the armorers plan? You

22:51

think the armor is in charge. Okay,

22:55

spam one if you think the armor is a spy. Spam

22:58

two if you think Axe Wove is a spy. The

23:02

title of the episode is Spies Hinting

23:04

at Something. Maybe the armor is a spy,

23:07

maybe multiple Mandalorians.

23:10

If this show didn't

23:12

tie into the sequels, I would be ecstatic. Still

23:15

a great episode, says J-Mac.

23:17

I feel like the show has gone full circle

23:19

and is now lost. Why is Grogu there if he's not

23:22

gonna use the force? Feels like the Disney

23:24

execs are involved. How

23:26

did the guards cut through this Beskar

23:28

armor? Oh, hey,

23:30

it's best to know they went through his

23:33

openings and stuff.

23:36

Ah, everyone thinks the armor is shady.

23:40

Shady. You

23:43

think the Night Owls are the spies or the

23:45

armorer? Could

23:48

be both at this point, to be honest. I

23:51

mean, no brainer for the night owls

23:53

because they're just like a pay for hire.

23:57

She's always been there's always been something

23:59

off about the armor. Just

24:01

something weird. You

24:04

know?

24:07

3% of people who voted for below are definitely

24:09

miserable people. You are not being objective at this

24:11

point while you go watch the show. I wouldn't say

24:13

they're miserable. I just would say that they didn't like

24:15

the show. As

24:17

Vizsla says, there is too many proceeds

24:20

to kill them all by himself. If

24:22

he had backup with Bo, he could have survived.

24:24

Yeah, then it's, I know.

24:27

I know John wanted to die

24:29

I guess and for whatever reason Were

24:33

the best car Imperials we

24:35

were the best car Imperials Mando super commandos

24:39

Were the best car Imperials Mando super commandos. No,

24:42

I think they were just stormtroopers But

24:45

best car I think that's what Gideon was

24:48

alluding to he wanted stormtroopers who

24:50

were Jedi and Mandalorian There

24:53

is no longer the Mando show. It's all about Bo

24:56

Katan. I like Disney. It's

24:58

like Disney continues to have an aberration

25:01

against strong male leads. At this point, we are not

25:03

dealing with a corporation, but more like a cult.

25:06

I can get behind that. I

25:12

liked the episode, but I didn't like the last bit, says

25:14

anime. Riley says another mid-delorean

25:16

episode, Mass of El. If acts in the armor are

25:19

with Gideon, then the rest of them

25:21

are dying. unless the New Republic

25:23

show up. They

25:25

ain't, they don't care. Who are the

25:27

members in the Shadow Council? We

25:31

got Pelion, which is cool.

25:33

We got Gideon. We

25:36

got Hux's dad. And

25:39

then two other random people I don't know about. No

25:44

idea.

25:47

Do you think the Imperial Troopers are clones

25:50

of Gideon Something else or not

25:52

clones at all. I don't think they didn't just

25:54

they're just oh, you know what? Damn. What

25:57

if they are clones? What if they're actually like Jangle

26:00

clones.

26:04

Or are they Force Sensors? No, if they were Force Sensors,

26:06

man, they would have wreaked havoc. Emma

26:09

is not happy with the breaking of lore. Let's

26:11

just say she's going to wage her war on Kathy

26:13

Kennedy. What did she not like, Elizabeth?

26:15

What did she not like? Here, the Praetorian

26:17

guards look exactly like Emperor's Shadow

26:19

Guard from Force Unleashed. Compare

26:22

and you'll see.

26:24

Except they're

26:26

not black.

26:28

So

26:31

that would make me victorious. Last

26:33

episode feels like a fever dream. Yeah,

26:35

last week, Bo should have cut a larger hole

26:37

after dinner was taken away, that way more Mandos could fit

26:39

through the hole and take the fight. Pursued in

26:41

afterwards, she could also go and cut a hole

26:44

in the rear door to go warn

26:48

the others.

26:49

Yes, but she didn't. It would have been cool if

26:51

Gideon came down and forcibly took off

26:54

Mando's helmet when they captured him. That would

26:56

have been huge disrespect. That would have been sick.

26:59

Why didn't they do this? Do

27:03

you think Bo will die in the finale?

27:06

Seems like the only way we will get to focus on Mando

27:08

again. No, they're not killing Bo, dude.

27:11

There's no way. Dude,

27:15

when have they ever killed? Really?

27:20

When have they ever really like actually

27:22

killed? No, I'm thinking about it. They've never

27:24

killed a female character

27:27

besides Jin Erso. Like

27:30

Riva lives through like 50 stab wounds

27:33

from Anakin and Vader.

27:39

Oh no, the girl in Kenobi died. There

27:44

you go. You

27:46

think the mythosaur plays a role in the season finale?

27:49

I would say so. Imagine Grogu Force

27:51

crushed the door. Yeah,

27:55

why didn't he do this? Doesn't he have like latent

27:57

powers? Totally

28:00

makes sense for the armor to be a spy. The episode

28:03

was called The Spies, and of course she left

28:05

Beau when they were about to go to the Great

28:07

Forge. Dude, she's in on it. I

28:10

mean, those horns should let you know that something's up

28:12

with that kick. If Luke showed up

28:14

at the end of season two, will Han and

28:16

Leia show up at the end of season three?

28:20

That'd be kind of cool, but no. Final

28:24

episode, Mythosaur Saves the Day.

28:26

Just imagine him riding in.

28:32

And Bo is riding it. Or

28:35

Grogan. Notice

28:37

the episode is called the spies. Very

28:39

telling.

28:41

Very telling.

28:43

Ahsoka and Sabine and Ezra. Remember

28:46

Ezra helped Clan Ren before, which...

28:49

where are they? Small unit tactics

28:51

retreat and reposition and Paz was a

28:53

buffer. How

28:55

do you think Boba will fit into the finale? I

28:58

don't know. It

29:00

would be cool if he was in the finale, but he's ruling

29:02

with respect right now. But I think he would

29:04

actually be pretty bad. I think he'd write him in pretty

29:07

badass.

29:09

No, spam B if you think Bo

29:11

was gonna be in there.

29:16

I'm gonna be cool. Moff

29:18

getting without a moustache is cursed. Grogu

29:21

can wield the saber. Oh, that's why he looked

29:23

weird. Why is he like

29:26

different?

29:28

Grogu can wield the saber with IG-12? He could. He

29:32

absolutely

29:32

could. Give a good point. Absolutely

29:35

could.

29:38

That'd be kind of

29:39

wild. Din needs

29:41

to be rescued a third time in the season. What

29:43

the hell are they doing for this character? Yo, everyone's

29:45

saying B. They all want Boba to return. Well,

29:48

I'm thinking 90% of you. What

29:51

is Project Necromancer? Necromancer. Yeah,

29:54

when did they talk about Project Necromancer again? I

29:56

think it was last episode, right?

30:00

That's it.

30:02

Yeah, remember, where'd they see this?

30:06

Yeah, well, I was in Tamad's Celebration.

30:12

I think it's safe to say no Mandos freed Gideon

30:14

considering his soldiers have Beskar armor,

30:17

explaining what happened in episode five. And

30:19

I don't think the Night Owls are with Gideon because

30:22

the new Lego set that was announced

30:25

What if Thrawn returns with Chiss Fleet?

30:30

Armor leads

30:31

Bow to unite everyone

30:34

and lead them to Mandalore, even though they got

30:36

Sanctuary on Navarro, Definite Spy.

30:41

Raghu should have Force-choked Gideon.

30:43

They're solid, I mean, yeah, it's like he forgot to use the Force,

30:46

I don't know. Honestly theory, I've

30:48

had, never had anything against the Praetorian

30:50

Guards, there are any feelings towards them. Tonight those characters

30:53

will forever make me sick because

30:55

of paths. The

30:56

fact that Grogu was, oh, big one from

30:59

Lefty, but not Looney. The fact that

31:01

Grogu was sitting on Bo's lap this episode

31:04

and Ray

31:05

is getting a new movie and Din

31:08

just got captured makes me think the force

31:10

is female in Disney Star Wars Strikes Again. I'm

31:12

worried Din is getting written off the show in

31:15

favor of Bo Katan.

31:19

I don't think Din is going anywhere.

31:21

I just can't see that happening.

31:25

I mean, like how to destroy a franchise, you know, with

31:27

one move. People would be like, what, why?

31:32

Was that creature that destroyed Mandalorian,

31:35

Land Cruiser, the Mythosaur? No,

31:37

just a dinosaur. Also, Baby Yoda operating the IG-12 was

31:39

so cute and awesome. I love this episode. Ah, good.

31:42

I'm glad you like it. Was there any reason why

31:44

Dinh Paz or anyone didn't use whistling birds?

31:48

I don't know, maybe they're out.

31:50

Lameo, the first- yeah, kinda seemed like they could've done

31:52

a little more when they were fighting, hey?

31:55

Huh. At

31:57

least, you know, like, I feel like You

32:00

know, they had some rockets or something. The

32:02

first order is like the Imperial Remnants Plan

32:05

F. Hux's father, the literal clown, no

32:07

one's taking seriously.

32:10

Yeah, why did Gideon say that his

32:12

father is

32:14

more of a fan of cloning than

32:17

anyone else? What

32:20

was up with that?

32:22

Bo or Din will ride the Mythosaur on a rampage

32:25

through the Imperial base, destroying all enemies

32:27

until Bo stabs Moth with the Darksaber.

32:29

I have spoken. Ouch.

32:31

Yeah,

32:36

Mythosaur rampaging through the Imperial Base

32:38

would be cool. Rest in peace, Mando pirate

32:40

ship. We hardly knew ye. That was

32:42

a cool ship. The Bean, Tano

32:45

feeling they'll show Vince's

32:48

ebb shown earlier. Oh, although

32:50

connect Tano series to Thrawn fun

32:52

episode, but lazy late writing. Much love.

32:55

Thanks, chair.

32:58

Yeah,

32:58

I mean, seeing Zeb kind of does

33:00

make you think that maybe we'll see a Soaker or Sabine or something,

33:02

but

33:03

I don't know. One episode left, dude. I

33:08

really feel like nothing has happened. I

33:10

think it's possible to still enjoy stuff, even if they

33:12

incorporate sequel stuff. You just can't, you

33:15

can, you can still just ignore

33:17

and not watch the sequels. If other shows,

33:19

movies use sequel stuff and make it

33:21

cool, why not?

33:23

I'm just really bothered by the sequels,

33:25

so for me it just bugs me. But if

33:27

other people enjoy it, that's great. I

33:29

feel that the armor has already been there to help

33:31

forge Bescar armor for Gideon. Rogu

33:34

is the spy. Axe

33:37

is a red herring. Armor is

33:39

the Scooby-Doo villain, and the Mythosaur destroys

33:41

the Imp base after Bo Pais plays

33:44

the Power Rangers song on a fleet. I

33:47

desperately wanna see Phase Zero Clone Trooper.

33:51

I don't get how they can make the Mandos look

33:53

so weak in our very capable fighters other than

33:55

Paz at the end and Din, which

33:58

they made them more badass. Yeah, they- They kind

34:00

of look do, kind of look do, kind

34:02

of do look incapable. Rick

34:05

Famuyiwa has not missed on any

34:07

Mando episodes. Thank God he's directing the finale.

34:10

They need to give him a movie at this rate.

34:14

For a cult, didn't he direct one of the episodes that was

34:16

kind of lame this season? For

34:18

a culture of warriors, these people suck at war.

34:22

Yeah. What's up, Jens? 27 months, thank

34:24

you. Someone tries to say Kathleen

34:26

is doing a good job. Many

34:29

people, you just go on Twitter. I don't think

34:31

the armor or wolves work with Gideon. The

34:33

people that were already on Mandalore literally knew

34:35

the base was already there.

34:37

And maybe they're the ones to

34:39

cripple defenses on world's ship.

34:43

I don't think the people that were on Mandalore already

34:45

knew about the base. I

34:49

just think that they would have announced that first,

34:52

no? Or,

34:55

you know, Moff Gideon could have been paying them

34:57

to be scouts. It's

35:01

possible. Is Paz

35:03

Vizsla dead or did he just pass out? He's

35:07

dead. He got

35:09

stabbed several times.

35:11

For a second I thought Bubba Frick was joining his

35:13

team. Yeah, that'd be cool. What's

35:16

up, music? Your boy says, Praetorian guards

35:18

have always had those helmets. Yeah, it's

35:20

the same. There's

35:23

no, there are no horns on their helmets. What's

35:25

up, John? It was fantastic.

35:27

Felt like most of the Game of Thrones show.

35:30

Most like Game of Thrones. The

35:32

season has come into focus. It's about gathering

35:34

the Mandalorian tribes, and this is a climax

35:37

for that purpose. Yeah,

35:38

you know, you have a point there. It's doing what it set

35:40

out to do, but I just feel like could

35:42

have been done a little earlier. Batmace

35:44

about to make another return and

35:47

create another tsunami and save Mando. Also,

35:49

Skinny Pete in this episode. Skinny Pete was the

35:51

guy that was always like super baked, right? Yeah,

35:54

I think so. Yeah, I think

35:56

so. So I'm going to be tweeting about it.

35:58

So make sure you go follow me at realsw. theory

36:00

on the tweets. The

36:03

Mando pirates took them right into it. It's a trap.

36:06

Beau foreshadowing, more Beau foreshadowed

36:09

dropping the ball in that fight. When

36:11

she spoke of her loss of the ship,

36:14

led them into a trap and then froze up when the door

36:16

closed. I know she just like ran the other way. I'm like, what

36:18

are you doing? Why are you going the other way?

36:22

Cutting a hole takes time. They would have left. Don't

36:25

think so. They could cut like an entire, They cut

36:28

the whole door off. It's

36:30

so good seeing red elites groups

36:32

being badass. Also, I think their helmet are

36:35

more Greek in style. I'm not disappointed once

36:37

in this season. Would you say these are different

36:41

Praetorian guards than the ones

36:43

in the sequels? I would say so. They're not the same.

36:47

I mean, they just got the same weapons.

36:50

The Praetorian guards had T visors,

36:52

just looked them up from the sequels and you can easily

36:55

see there's a big difference.

36:58

I wanna be real with you, I forgot what they looked like. Praetorian

37:03

guards. Oh

37:06

yeah. Yeah,

37:08

these guys did have visors, eh? You're

37:13

right. That's kinda cool. Yeah,

37:17

that is pretty cool. They're

37:20

like a Mandalorian version of them. I

37:24

bet you that Gideon ends up taking Din's

37:27

helmet. Disrespecting

37:30

this man. Armor and bow are gonna... Les

37:33

out? Oh Jesus. I think

37:35

the Imperial guards turned into the Praetorian guards.

37:38

The look so similar.

37:40

They could have

37:43

and this could be like an early version of them but I

37:47

don't think so. I think they're different in episode 9

37:49

Hux is revealed to be a spy commander Hux appeared

37:51

in this episode Is he currently a spy for the new republic?

37:54

When did he become a spy? No,

37:57

I think Hux became a spy when he just stopped

37:59

liking Kylo Ren- It

38:01

wasn't like something he originally planned to do. Project

38:04

Necromancer was mentioned in that meeting. Josh

38:06

called it since Thrawn will use Knight

38:08

Sister magic to raise the dead.

38:12

What meeting?

38:14

Oh, the meeting with the Shadow Collective, whatever

38:16

it was.

38:19

My

38:19

theory is that Ahsoka will show up and draw

38:22

out Thrawn, he'll kill Gideon. Din

38:24

will take his helmet off and Thrawn will

38:27

bait Ahsoka with Ezra. If

38:29

both are spies, then how the F are

38:31

Din and Bo getting out of the finale?

38:37

We

38:37

mean both are spies Maybe

38:40

the spy will be a general Hux origin

38:43

story. Yikes No, thanks.

38:45

Did you know in the Colin Travaro version Hux

38:47

impales himself

38:48

on core sunt? I believe it was with mace

38:51

windu's lightsaber

38:53

What's up big cheddar first time

38:55

super chat love the watch parties season has been

38:57

all over the place but I enjoyed the episode.

39:00

Glad you enjoyed it, man.

39:01

About some of these villains and characters

39:04

coming out of the woodworks after the Empire

39:06

fell.

39:07

Yeah, I mean, they're probably just not afraid anymore.

39:11

Detoxing for life says, Theory, grown up in the

39:14

80s, Carl Weathers was one of my idols along with Sylvester

39:16

Stallone because of Rocky IV. Does anyone

39:18

care, Weathers has introduced and

39:21

birthed IG-12. So dope,

39:23

take my money Disney, IG12 toy.

39:26

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