Chuck Klosterman is a writer and essayist. In a wide-ranging conversation with Isaac Chotiner, he discusses the costs of politicizing pop culture, the roots of Trump’s shamelessness, and why music is such a subjective art form.   Email: ask@slate.comTwitter: @IHaveToAskPod Podcast production by Max Jacobs.Please fill out the Slate podcast survey at slate.com/podcastsurveyLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices