In this episode the North American Wood Ape Conservancy (NAWAC) shares their long-term research endeavors at Area X in Eastern Oklahoma. Hosted by NAWAC Chairman Alton Higgins and field anthropologist Kathy Strain, the episode explores firsthand observations and experiences, including rock-throwing, vocalizations, tree manipulations, and potential sightings of wood apes. Listeners get insights into the behavioral patterns and social structures of these elusive creatures, drawing comparisons to other primates. The discussion highlights the scientific approach and meticulous documentation by the NAWAC team, emphasizing the need for conservation efforts to protect the apes’ habitat.



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00:00 Introduction to Area X 00:23 Operation Relentless: Current Field Study 00:43 Interview with Alton Higgins and Kathy Strain 02:18 Rock Throwing and Other Ape Activities 03:54 Tool Use and Behavioral Observations 11:36 Challenges and Unknowns in Research 15:14 The Importance of Data Collection 17:14 Future of Bigfoot Research and Conservation 22:26 Personal Experiences and Sightings 41:39 Campfire Conversations: Kathy and Monica's Nighttime Encounters 42:34 Bigfoot Activity: Rock Throws and Primate Displays 43:46 Mysterious Sounds and Eye Shine 46:57 Tree Push and Rock Throws: A Night of Intense Activity 52:32 Daytime Sightings and Rock Throws 53:55 Interview with Daryl Collier: Analyzing Field Notes 54:31 Rock Throws and Environmental Changes 01:02:59 Sightings and Behavioral Observations 01:11:55 Mysterious Rock Barrage 01:12:43 Frustrations in the Field 01:13:57 Rare Sightings and Mistakes 01:15:55 Collecting Physical Evidence 01:17:11 Targeted Rock Throws 01:19:39 Tree Incidents and Theories 01:25:32 Avoiding Cameras and Human Perception 01:35:17 The Urgency of Discovery 01:40:12 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans


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