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John C Dvorak: Free biscuits free food for everyone. Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak. Adam Curry: Sunday, August 4 2020. For this year award

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winning give our nation media assassination episode 1683. This

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Unknown: is no agenda Adam Curry: bringing joy and chaos and broadcasting live from

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the heart of the country here and FEMA Region number six in

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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry John C Dvorak: here from Northern Silicon Valley, where

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I've concluded that Shannon Bream is no good. I'm John C.

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Dvorak skill.

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Adam Curry: Well, it's two women you don't like in a row on the

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show. Who's the other one? Now? You said Kamala Harris is full

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of crap. John C Dvorak: She is. Adam Curry: I'm just saying what's what did Shannon Bream

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do? John C Dvorak: Is this you know? I didn't really I kind of always

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sensed this for a while but it's been getting worse from Fox. Is

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Unknown: she from Fox? Yes. She's John C Dvorak: the fox. He's a pretty blonde. She's She's 50

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She looks 20 Good looking. well structured fade. good looking

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girl. Period. Adam Curry: What you said well structured babe, is that we said

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that I hated that John C Dvorak: race. overall structure face.

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Adam Curry: That's better. Better well structured. Hey,

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baby. You've got a well structured face. I'm gonna try

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it tonight. I'm trying tonight. See how that works.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, baby, no, no, as a compliment. You've got

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somebody that to their face. Well, structured face baby is a

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well structured fate. Well, first, I noticed that some time

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ago when she said when when Trump got indicted by Fannie

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Willis and then the New York and then all at once you get the you

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know, 96 indictments all at once. And they're bitching about

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as one of the shows that she was on? And she says, Oh, I don't

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think that was coordinated. Unknown: Really, there's no evidence

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John C Dvorak: is coordinated, even though they had people going in and out of the White House, the whole thing? So I

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thought, well, that's kind of suspicious. Then I watched this

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morning. She She does a show on Sunday. That is distributed on

2:06

all the fox stations. And she has a sidekick that comes on she

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interviews this guy Chris Murphy, who's a Democrat. And

2:15

Chris Murphy says stuff like Yeah, well, you know, the the

2:20

immigration rates go way down since Trump because countless

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done his fabulous job at the border. No pushback. And then

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later in this show, she Oh, yeah. Okay, well, that's

2:31

interesting. But we have other numbers are those numbers are

2:34

wrong. Okay. So then it says he signs off. He says, Yeah, well,

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you know, there's the difference is gonna be between Campbell and

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Trump is Trump's gonna be the dictators on day one, day one.

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And she she says nothing. And then she says that he's gonna

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implement agenda 25 as she says nothing. It's like, okay, this

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is bad. You know, I Adam Curry: had a thought I had a thought this morning. I know,

3:01

as a standby, everybody had a thought. So all these cable news

3:06

channels, Fox, of course, clearly run by Democrats. I

3:10

mean, just look at the look at the John C Dvorak: Murdoch. Kid kid the kid. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: The reason why they're on the air is because of

3:20

the carriage fees. Right. Largely Well, I mean, that's,

3:25

that's the main, that's the main income. So say you have 60

3:31

million households. On cable net, that's probably low, but

3:35

let's just let's say 50 million, say 50 million. And you get one

3:39

buck for your channel. And I don't know do you think every

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channel makes about a buck? I mean, cable is expensive these

3:46

days? You John C Dvorak: know, I I know people that have these numbers.

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I should probably look into it. If we have some real numbers.

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Let's look Adam Curry: into it. Because why couldn't the curry divorce

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Communications Group? Why couldn't we start a cable

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channel? Lobby Comcast lobby all these other guys. And and just

4:05

get a channel? And then you know, we'll we'll get somewhere

4:09

between 20 and $50 million a year. And we'll just pay a whole

4:13

bunch of podcasters. You know, we'll, we'll I'll turn the

4:17

camera on in that. Hey, will you turn the camera ugly? I'll turn

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the camera on. You know, I'm sure we can get nick the rat to

4:26

turn the camera on. Darren O'Neill and we could just do the

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no agenda stream. We could divvy it up. Everybody wins. Why not?

4:33

I mean, how hard can it be to launch a cable channel? In times

4:38

when everyone knows there's no reason to watch cable anymore.

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John C Dvorak: Well, there's that we witnessed this whole

4:46

process with tech TV. Yeah, well and with span it was mostly they

4:50

had nothing but trouble getting people to carry because it was

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Adam Curry: tokers, hey we have a whole network of producers As

5:00

I'm sure some of them will hike the skirt.

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John C Dvorak: Well, I mean, MTV did it by saying, you know, I

5:06

want my MTV dad that whole idea. Yeah, jingle emerged. I want my

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MTV. Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, we can do that worked. Yeah, yeah, it's

5:17

doable. Let's do it. I think it's it's a possibility. I mean,

5:20

just why not? Why not? The cable companies are starved for for

5:26

reasons to keep people. I'm sure we could get someone to like

5:31

maybe Joe maybe Joe milk. Yeah, you know, I'll pick up an extra

5:34

couple mil from these boys. Don't you think? Well, if

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John C Dvorak: you if you could get Joe Yeah, that would be that

5:43

would be hot because then you could do the whole thing. That

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would be hot. Yeah, it'd be high. Yeah, it'd be great.

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Adam Curry: I talked to Joe this morning. John C Dvorak: Oh, that's where you to go in. Okay. Oh,

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Adam Curry: no, no, no, I wasn't going there at all, just by

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coincidence. Because what did Joe have to say? Well, we were

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talking about his awesome special that he did last night.

6:07

Oh, John C Dvorak: this was the live. Yeah, how was it? I didn't

6:10

get this. Oh, Adam Curry: it's funny. It's funny in it. But you know, what

6:14

a standard is not bad. No, it's a great comic. The what is so

6:19

outstanding about is he did it live. And that most comedians

6:24

don't do that with their specials. They don't really want

6:28

to do something live. Because you know, you can sweeten it

6:31

later. You can drop the bits that didn't work best, which is

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what they do. Yeah. Well, Joe didn't do they just went live

6:38

for like, an hour and 10 minutes. It was very, you want

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to hear a little bit. There's a little bit here. I don't know if you've probably seen this. You see this bit that's on?

6:45

John C Dvorak: I didn't Well, unless you did it before. I've

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seen his old Act. Now this this is Adam Curry: a bit from the special peer check has short,

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Unknown: you know, it's just good to see everybody having a good time. The country is almost back to normal before world war

6:55

three. COVID was just so strange. We lost a lot of people

7:02

during COVID and most of them are still alive

7:12

lot of people that I don't fuck with anymore. Before COVID I would have told you that

7:17

vaccines are the most important invention in human history.

7:21

After COVID and like I don't think we went to the moon. think

7:26

Michelle Obama's got a dig. I think pence again is round. I

7:29

think there's direct energy weapons and

7:36

honestly, I'm just kidding. I don't think Michelle Obama's

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gonna dig but I believe all that other Adam Curry: kind of almost projecting Bobcat Goldthwait

7:46

there for a second little bit of Sam Kinison. Maybe almost.

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John C Dvorak: There was something. It was good. Yeah. He

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was an energy. He's a little different than when I saw him

7:57

before. Yeah, he was. He was a little hyped.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, he's an Are you kidding me the live show and

8:02

I can understand that. I can understand it. Yeah, well, okay.

8:06

And just think about it. I mean, we could also we could do music.

8:10

We could throw some value for value music up there.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, kinds of calculations. No big

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Adam Curry: deal. Easy. Easy peasy. Yeah, it will be alright.

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It's a deal. Let's do it. Okay. All right. Yeah. Does anyone

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know how to start? Anybody out there. So I went to Frisco.

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Friday, Friday night. John C Dvorak: Yeah. Frisco, Texas Frisco, Texas. Yes. And

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for is that from you? Well, Adam Curry: I flew. So it was an hour and 20 minutes. But it's if

8:41

you drive 9090 John C Dvorak: miles, 100 miles

8:46

Adam Curry: through the air? That's a good question. No, it's more than that. Now, because we're doing about 190 miles an

8:53

hour. So it's much more than that. It's too far to drive a

8:59

five and a half hours to Dallas, basically. So after the podcast

9:06

in 2.0 podcast went over Gillespie airport, which is five

9:09

minutes from the House Beautiful. Edie the 28th to hold

9:12

these are the oh, wait John C Dvorak: a minute, what? You should probably tell people

9:16

why you went to Frisco to that's, Adam Curry: um, that's coming. That's coming after the ED part.

9:23

So I always have a Safety Pilot go with me, who was instructor

9:28

from the flight school where I rent the plane. It's also handy

9:32

because he'll bring the plane up from Bernie it's all gassed up

9:36

to all the annoying stuff. Yet We'll even handle the luggage.

9:40

It's 28 Now these kids are so young. And you know, so I'm

9:44

chatting with him and said so how long before we lose you

9:48

because I don't think I've flown more than three times with any

9:52

with any safety pilot because all these kids get sucked up by

9:54

the airlines. He says Ah, now it's gonna be a little longer

9:58

for me because they have over hired He says all of these

10:03

airlines mainly because they can't get any new planes. Now

10:07

spirit, and I think Alaska and he's like they've over hired

10:11

have over hired. So I just thought that was a little interesting little tidbit. So we went up we were invited to

10:17

attend the closing gala evening of the citizens defending

10:25

freedom Conference, which is organized by the remnant

10:30

Alliance. John C Dvorak: Do they defend freedom? Yes, most

10:35

Adam Curry: definitely. I would say that I went boots on the

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ground inside the Christian nationalist movement was

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amazing. So this conference was about 250, pastors, preachers

10:50

and priests. It was, and they had all these, I didn't go to

10:54

entity sessions, of course, but they went to all these sessions,

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to motivate them to speak into the culture not avoided. And I

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was kind of expecting, like a vote Trump thing. But it wasn't

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that at all, actually. And about 30%, maybe about 30% of these

11:10

pastors were black. And yeah, that was, I thought that was,

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yeah, it was more than representative of the

11:18

population, which was interesting. Speaking there were

11:22

Laura Logan, the neighbor, Michael G invite,

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John C Dvorak: you know, I Adam Curry: was invited by our pastor. But it's it's all it's

11:32

all the John C Dvorak: Laura didn't invite you, Laura. She didn't

11:37

invite you. She Adam Curry: would have budget new hours come in. Now. But you

11:41

know, and I have to talk to her. Because if you have Laura Logan,

11:47

and she's going to speak because she was speaker. What would you

11:50

want to hear from her? Stories? Yeah. What kind of stories about

11:55

what about what topic about working with in

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John C Dvorak: the media and how collected is exactly? Yeah, of

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course. Adam Curry: No. Instead, John C Dvorak: she has an event like that. You want to hear how

12:04

screwed up things? Yes, yes.

12:08

Yeah, of course. Adam Curry: Instead, she talks about, about the child

12:13

trafficking. It was a super bummer. No, I don't like it. Oh,

12:19

wow. Yeah, John C Dvorak: that would be that's a downer man, downer man,

12:23

lay man, that's a downer. Adam Curry: But also, you know, I've done public speaking,

12:27

you've done public speaking. You want to speak about something

12:30

you're you're very familiar with that you're really good at, you

12:34

know, that you're that you're well versed in. So I don't know

12:37

how to approach it with her. But I think I need to just

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John C Dvorak: say maybe she'll hear the podcast. No, she doesn't listen to it. No,

12:43

Adam Curry: no, she just uses the name because he doesn't

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listen to it. John C Dvorak: That's right. Yes.

12:51

Adam Curry: She loves the name. And then also speaking was

12:56

Michael Flynn, who by the way, it's Lieutenant General Michael

12:59

Flynn. I didn't really realize that there was like, General

13:03

Flynn was Lieutenant General. Isn't that that's lower than a

13:06

general? Yeah, it's John C Dvorak: lower. Yeah.

13:09

Adam Curry: Is that just like an executive, a senior vice

13:11

president to star? I have no idea of the stars work. And

13:15

yeah, John C Dvorak: there's one, two and three and four. And the top

13:19

guy is, you know, the general. He's the real general. The other

13:22

guys are Lieutenant General. Oh, Adam Curry: you could just be a two star general. I thought you

13:26

have Lieutenant Joe. You John C Dvorak: could do that, too.

13:28

Adam Curry: So he's a two star general. John C Dvorak: I well, I don't I can't say I'm a look. He could

13:33

be three. I don't know. So, in general, I'm sure someone will

13:37

tell us. Someone will tell. I'm not even gonna look it up

13:39

though. The chat room will tell us exactly how many stars

13:42

Lieutenant General has. And

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Adam Curry: now he was there. He he and Laura they kind of

13:49

traveled together. They do a lot of speed. They do. Yeah, they

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do. Well, her husband Joe used to work for Flynn. Oh, yeah.

13:58

DIA, these are all spooks. So So Joe comes over to our tastes.

14:05

Yeah. And he's very, very hyper. Come on, you got to say hello to

14:11

General Flynn. General Flynn. Come on. Come on, come on. Come

14:13

on. Come on. Come on. Come Unknown: on. Come on. John C Dvorak: Give shot like a cat occurred to

14:19

Adam Curry: anybody who knows Joe will be like, That's Joe.

14:22

That sounds exactly like Joe. Yeah. Okay. And we go over like

14:30

a picture a new picture. And you know, and Flynn is they're

14:33

basically just being inundated by people the whole time. You

14:36

know, taking pictures with him. Yeah. He's got what he does.

14:39

He's got his tuxedo on. And then we line up for a picture. And

14:44

John C Dvorak: then Joseph asked where Putin was looking around,

14:46

so that would, Adam Curry: I mean, I barely had time to thank him for his

14:50

service. But Joe is like a General John Adam creep

14:56

headbangers ball, and Flynn looks at me uh huh. Excellent.

15:00

What headbangers ball. What? Of all the things Joe could have

15:04

said about me, it's like hey, headbangers ball look like,

15:11

okay, who's the lawyer? Because my suit on? And I think he's

15:18

there because well, now that I think about it, you know, two

15:23

movies were also being promoted. I think during the sessions. One

15:26

is the into the light, or out of the shadows, whatever it is.

15:30

That's the very controversial child trafficking movie. That's

15:34

probably why Laura was talking about that. And Flynn has a

15:37

there's a documentary about him, which is out. I haven't seen it.

15:44

But at the end, Charlie Kirk did the keynote. Yeah, he's the he's

15:50

the guy from turning point USA. Yes. Holy crap. That guy's

15:54

impressive. Yeah, he's

15:56

John C Dvorak: a good speaker. He's, Adam Curry: like 32 or 3333. Very, very, very impressive guy.

16:06

I mean, John C Dvorak: he's got he's got a high IQ and he's got a good

16:09

base, and he has good style. He's he knows where how to

16:12

speak. Oh, Adam Curry: yeah. And he's a seven feet tall. I had no idea

16:16

like, well, you kind of told you. 10, you know, and again, it

16:21

was the whole and pretty much what you said. He was saying,

16:24

hey, Christians, you don't vote. She got to go out and vote. But

16:30

his main focus was on how churches fit it was kind of it

16:33

was cool, because John C Dvorak: he's so Kirk picked up on the on the Trump

16:37

thing. It's interesting. He did. Yeah, he

16:39

Adam Curry: did. But he didn't say go out and vote for Trump.

16:42

He didn't say that. John C Dvorak: Now, of course, you don't do that. I don't have

16:45

to. But what do you what? Why bother? You don't have to do

16:48

that. Yeah, come on. Hello. Adam Curry: But what he what he was saying, and I liked you

16:52

know, you're so there's 250 pastors, priests and preachers,

16:55

and he's like, You guys failed during COVID. He said, You

16:58

really fail. You'd let them close your church. And it was

17:03

good. It was really impressive. So and then that was it. There

17:08

was nothing nothing really else. You know, it's not wasn't as

17:11

scary as I thought it would be. John C Dvorak: They're gonna be scary. Oh, it was Christian. It

17:16

would be boring. Christian nationalists,

17:18

Adam Curry: man. Come on that that was them. That was the

17:23

Christian nationalist right there. And he people on stage

17:27

like, you know, people introducing people. I'm a proud

17:31

Christian nationalist, they can call me that if they want.

17:36

John C Dvorak: If he you know, that would work fine. I think

17:38

that would work as a as an intro. If you then pull the gun

17:41

out and shot in the eye. Now, it'd be the way

17:45

Adam Curry: to go. Everybody was packing. I'll tell you that.

17:47

That's for sure. A lot of guns, a lot of guns. A lot of pastors

17:51

with guns. Pretty funny. John C Dvorak: Sounds like the event should have been called

17:55

pastors with guns. Anyway, that's you didn't really get

18:01

anything. You didn't get any real show materials that you got

18:05

to meet Flynn. Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that was that was that was the show. I

18:08

mean, other than I investigated the Christian nationalists, and

18:13

it was pretty, pretty tame, you know, was like, Hey, wake up,

18:19

people. Your churches are failing. I thought that was a

18:21

pretty, pretty good message. That was Charlie Kirk, if you

18:24

get a chance to see that guy talk. He's good. He's really

18:27

good. In fact, I was looking around and I got

18:31

John C Dvorak: used to it it did that debt conference. He does he

18:34

Adam Curry: does them all over the all over the country. Yeah,

18:37

like any John C Dvorak: Turning Point conference that he did I have a

18:40

clip from it that I missed time. Oh, is it an old one I wanted to

18:45

play. Okay. It is or is it as you I got a big list

18:51

unfortunately, from Adam Curry: today was an old one. It's

18:55

John C Dvorak: I picked it up since the last show. It's from

18:59

the turning point conference that Trump was at.

19:01

Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Okay, I gotcha.

19:05

John C Dvorak: And I just thought this was just something I'd never I'd never considered it but I actually have

19:11

considered it but it was where's this man?

19:17

Adam Curry: Bro? Are you looking at is it on today's list he

19:19

John C Dvorak: has to do with yes should be get to do it.

19:21

Camelus it's a This is unbelievable. I kid you got

19:28

Adam Curry: a lot of y'all here it is the overclocked man. John C Dvorak: I am over clipping they can't find OH WTF

19:33

Adam Curry: common was race? No. John C Dvorak: I can't be no that's a good one. No, no,

19:39

Adam Curry: no, no, no, I don't want to I want to hear what you

19:42

have from turning point. Trump in Atlanta Trump force W's 47

19:48

Whatever that whatever that typo means.

19:53

John C Dvorak: Graham Lebanon Lebanon. You're failing. I am.

19:57

This is a complete Epic epic fail Oh, while you're

20:01

Adam Curry: looking for that I can play a little piece which

20:04

was from Charlie Kirk's podcast. And he had James Lindsay on

20:15

talking about her quote, unburdened by what has been

20:20

John C Dvorak: this is it I have it as unburdened explained,

20:22

people see, oh, okay, Adam Curry: let me see if yours is longer. Mine is four seconds

20:27

longer. I don't want to play mine. Unknown: The quote is that we can see what can be unburdened

20:33

by what has been, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been, you

20:38

know, what can be unburdened by what has been what can be

20:44

unburdened by what has been that word

20:47

John C Dvorak: salad, or mine's longer because I don't have all

20:50

the bullshit in camera. Here's Adam Curry: the short and it's only four seconds. Why, you

20:55

know, I'm John C Dvorak: saying no, I don't have she, he just talks on

20:58

mine, he doesn't bring the cat that's four seconds

21:03

Adam Curry: is four seconds, then he goes back to talking.

21:06

John C Dvorak: You should the camera yak, yak yak is only four

21:09

seconds long. Yes. Unknown: You know, what can be unburdened by what has been what

21:16

can be, or by what has been that word salad or Marxism as Marxism that is,

21:23

in fact, not at all word salad. It's a Marxist incantation. As a

21:27

matter of fact, it's like a spell. So you can see the

21:31

possibility of a world that's unburdened from its own history,

21:34

which is exactly what Mao Zedong did, when he launched the

21:37

campaign of smash the four olds, the four old characteristics of

21:41

Chinese society, they were going to make a new China that was

21:44

going to be unburdened by what had been in the past of China.

21:47

This is what the Soviets the Bolsheviks did when they took

21:50

over power in Russia is that they were going to make the new

21:53

Russia they're gonna make the new man, as a matter of fact,

21:56

people could become unburdened by what had has been so that he

22:00

could see what could possibly be in the terms of a socialist

22:02

utopia. So when she says that, I assume given that her father was

22:07

a Marxist, I assume she knows what she's saying, and I don't

22:11

buy her idiot Valley speak. Stick one bit, I think she's far

22:15

more smart and far more savvy than conservatives have given

22:18

her credit for, and she is an outright Marxist. It is very,

22:22

very clear in her language. And that's what the Democrats want

22:25

to nominate for President right now, which is kind of

22:27

horrifying. Adam Curry: I hadn't I had not even considered that until I

22:31

heard this. John C Dvorak: Well, when I heard it fell into place,

22:35

because I've heard her to say also, she also paraphrases the

22:41

Marxist idea to each according to their needs, from each

22:47

according to their abilities. Yes, yeah. Well, now we got to

22:50

pay attention to that, which is what equity is all about. In

22:53

other words, your gift, so everyone comes out the same, so

22:55

they have to you need more, you get more. And if you have more

22:59

abilities to give more, you give more, which is a pure Marxist

23:03

thing. In other words, you don't you you know, if you're like

23:06

some moron that doesn't, or refuses to contribute to

23:10

society, but you need a lot of food because you're a big fat

23:12

guy. You have to you have to put up that

23:15

Adam Curry: yeah, or better than ozempic. But

23:18

John C Dvorak: she is definitely a Marxist. And I didn't know

23:21

that specific thing. Once she was he said, it was like, Oh,

23:25

yes, absolutely. Adam Curry: Now we got to pay attention, although the coconut

23:29

thing has nothing to do with Marxist, it probably does.

23:33

Somewhere. There's some Marxist stuff in that coconut story.

23:37

John C Dvorak: Though she's a definitely a Marxist, a classic,

23:39

a classic Marxist, which we haven't seen for such a long

23:42

time that we can't recognize that this is the issue. And the

23:46

Democrats don't see it because they're, you know, they're all

23:48

they've been suckered into into believing all this stuff.

23:52

They've been suckered. They're dumb. The Democrats are down,

23:55

but I think we've established this in the show recently. Well,

23:58

Adam Curry: the campaign still seems to consist of zoom calls,

24:02

including Swifties for Kamala, which is coming up and deadheads

24:07

for Kamala. John C Dvorak: I, the one I watched was the Jews for camel.

24:12

Oh, Adam Curry: do you have any clips from it? No,

24:15

John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna take clips from it. There's just a bunch of people fawning all over them. Oh, we got to beat

24:19

Trump and he's gonna be a dictator since day one.

24:24

Adam Curry: You know, I realized something I realized that you

24:27

know, like the Jew haters are mastodon. Yeah, they have a lot

24:32

in common with the with the the pro trans people who all hate

24:36

Jews too. They do. But yeah, they're all protesting bed.

24:41

queers for Palestine. John C Dvorak: That's right. They queers for Palestine. Yeah.

24:47

Adam Curry: So these we got a boots on the ground from one of

24:49

our producers from Matt, he says. He sent he sent me a whole

24:54

bunch of links and screenshots. He says, This is bull crap that

24:59

they had fun. 50,000 or 200,000 people on a zoom call. He said

25:04

he did a setup for Tony Robbins in 2020. And it was actually

25:10

just a beta test to see how many participants they could get on

25:14

Zoom. And they so zoom gave him 300 participants who could

25:19

interact with Tony. But there are an additional 20,000

25:23

PARTICIPANT participants that are view only. And the only way

25:27

they could do it and you had these pictures, they had all

25:29

these Macs set up with a propriety proprietary system

25:32

called Canvas from some Canadian company immersive design

25:37

studios, otherwise, it's not possible. You can't the and he

25:42

had some amazing bandwidth brought into this place. He had,

25:46

he had four different providers pulling fiber into the studio

25:49

just for this event now as to get 20,000. So I think it's bowl

25:53

that what they have John C Dvorak: is they they're lying. You think these Democrats

25:57

are lying to us? Adam Curry: Quite possibly. I think what they're doing is they

26:04

have their celebrities on Zoom, and then they just stream it on

26:07

everything on x and, and YouTube. So it's, it's a point I

26:13

wanted to make. Good. Also, I wanted to say that I think

26:21

considering where the economy seems to be headed, it could

26:27

just be a blip on the radar. I don't know, I haven't listened

26:30

to the latest DH unplug. They may really want to give this to

26:37

Trump. And I would say Kamala is impossible danger at the DNC.

26:45

John C Dvorak: Well, this is I don't think so personally, his

26:48

day to day just elected or by the way over the phone over the

26:51

weekend. Yeah, I Adam Curry: have I have a clip homeless, I can

26:53

John C Dvorak: play that. And then we can talk about her danger

26:56

Unknown: tonight. Vice President Harris I'm making it nearly

26:58

official, the DNC saying she's won enough delegate votes to

27:01

secure the Democratic nomination in a virtual roll call and

27:05

knowing that we are excited about the future, but we also

27:09

know that we got a lot of work to get there. She's

27:11

expected to be named the nominee on Monday when she'll make

27:14

history as the first woman of color at the top of a major

27:17

party ticket. And tonight new details on her running mate

27:20

search NBC News reporting these six shortlist errs, and Vice

27:24

President will be taking in person meetings with finalists

27:27

over the years so Adam Curry: they they I guess they did a zoom call. Why? They

27:31

say vertically should have just said they did a zoom call

27:34

Unknown: NBC News reporting these six shortlist errs, and

27:37

Vice President will be taking in person meetings with finalists

27:40

over the next 72 hours. top contenders include a

27:43

Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro,

27:46

the Vice President has a deeply personal decision to make she

27:49

will make the right decision for her and for the country. Former

27:52

President Trump weighing in today, I don't care, let them do whatever they still want to have

27:56

open borders. I think if you pick Shapiro who happens to be

27:59

Jewish, she loses her little Palestinian base.

28:03

Now Republicans note Harris never won a vote in a primary or

28:06

caucus. But Democrats point to record fundraising as evidence

28:10

of party. Harris raking in $310 million in July far outpacing

28:16

the Trump campaign. Adam Curry: These are the same people always say what's the

28:21

what's the law that passed that that made corporations into

28:27

people? Citizens United?

28:29

Unknown: Yeah, Adam Curry: yeah, it's this just money us we got to get money out

28:34

of politics and now it's evidence that people love her.

28:38

John C Dvorak: That's an interesting I like that. That's

28:40

a good observation. I of course, we don't want to mention or even

28:43

suggest that this money is just being laundered as foreign money

28:47

through coming in from from China from who'd rather

28:50

Adam Curry: Karnes baby it's the Obama Chai calm scam for people

28:53

who John C Dvorak: wants to know how this works. It goes to act blue,

28:57

they find a they start attaching names to

29:01

Adam Curry: the split the names up the mountain the money, and

29:05

they John C Dvorak: split up the money. So it looks like real individuals that are contributing and anyone who's

29:10

looked into it, they go to find these people and they find a lot

29:13

of them are dead. And they find these people and I don't donate

29:20

anything. It's a lot of old ladies and this is a massive

29:26

scam reported scam. It's and it's so obvious you can't get

29:30

that kind of money for somebody like Kamala Harris overnight in

29:34

five days. It just doesn't happen. This is foreign money

29:38

coming into the country to influence peddling money being

29:42

laundered by act blue. Yes. What it is, hey,

29:46

Adam Curry: by the way just to hammer home the point of the

29:51

economy. Everyone's talking about the shoots the Big Mac

29:54

Index, or the Big Mac Index. Oh is it Big Mac buying is down Bub

30:00

Have a I'd like to point out that our hair and hookers index

30:03

has predicted this way before any Big Mac index. And I think

30:08

it should be. It should be an indicator that is taken into

30:10

account. The no agenda hair and hookers index. hair product

30:15

sales down poker and poker prices down girls looking better

30:18

and men I guess for that matter. John C Dvorak: Aaron hookers, I liked the term heroin hookers

30:25

index. HH, I

30:27

Adam Curry: bet we should have an HHI indicator tell Horowitz

30:30

to build one. John C Dvorak: You can do it. He does those things.

30:34

Adam Curry: That's why I want you guys talking about the Big

30:36

Mac Index. John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't know if we have or not. Okay.

30:42

Well, Adam Curry: there it is. So, the oh, this was kind of funny. And

30:51

we know that Trump went on the, you know, did the interview with

30:56

the National Association of Black Journalists. His amazing I

30:59

didn't clip it, but my hatless and like he only stayed for half

31:02

an hour, and then his people pulled him out. John C Dvorak: Now, right at the very beginning of the thing,

31:08

which the clip we played last show, yeah, he explains how that

31:12

works. That happened. And they they kept him from coming on

31:16

stage for a half hour, and then he had to leave. And then and

31:19

they blamed him. And then Adam Curry: Kara and Scott were saying, you know, because

31:23

they're marketing geniuses, you should know. They should really

31:27

focus on his age that he's too old. He's too old. The very same

31:31

people that kept saying sharpest attack. The flip flop is

31:37

amazing. So on MSNBC, they had to, of course, combat this

31:45

because Trump knows what he's doing when he says Kamala is not

31:48

black blood are people making a big deal about his K Black. Oh,

31:53

that's racist the way he said black, black, black, is racist.

31:59

And, and we know that the black folks in America who most would

32:06

classify as American descendants of slavery, ie a DOS, they're

32:11

not going to fall for another Obama type trick. Because they

32:16

they know that they're going to get screwed in that deal.

32:18

Unless, of course, he selects Wes Moore as their vice

32:21

president, but that's not looking very realistic. So they

32:23

have to, of course, to black people, that Simone Sanders, who

32:28

used to run the campaign for Bernie Sanders, no relation,

32:31

and, and that Princeton professor, what's the guy's

32:34

name? Eddie Glaude. Oh, they have to go and discredit the A

32:40

das Americans. It's been about go,

32:43

Unknown: I tend to agree. So first of all, it's great to be

32:45

back on the weekend again, and see both of you. I think, I

32:48

think I think that's absolutely right. On a certain level, there

32:51

are those who call themselves eight us Americans of African

32:55

descendants of slavery. And they are questioning whether or not

32:59

she's black or not. And I think at the heart of that argument,

33:03

in the heart of what Donald Trump is doing is a basic

33:05

misunderstanding. Donald Trump is a little bit more sinister,

33:07

right? There's this understanding of race in the

33:10

United States that is very, that's very structured that has

33:12

goes back to the one drop rule. There's there's a conflation

33:16

here of racial hierarchy and ethnicity that's going on here.

33:19

In so many ways. I want to just say that this is a distraction.

33:23

And it reveals not only how insidious Donald Trump is, but

33:27

how dumb he is, this is a clown show on so many ways, and I

33:31

don't want the campaign to get caught up in it. I want the

33:34

campaign to continue to continue to pursue his message. We're not

33:38

going back, we're going forward. We don't want to go back to that

33:42

mess. But those of us who have to address it, we need to have

33:45

to address we need to address it with the seriousness of history

33:47

and the seriousness of our moment, I think, but I think

33:50

you're absolutely right, that he's trying to appeal to those

33:52

at those people some so he absolutely is.

33:55

Adam Curry: So first of all, don't send your kids to Princeton. Second, he brings in the one drop rule, which is

34:03

total horse crap, and it comes

34:05

John C Dvorak: into play a Showboat. Oh, does it? Well, I

34:09

mean, that's where it was popularized. Adam Curry: So the one drop rule, as I understand it, is if

34:14

you have one ancestor somewhere with one drop of white blood,

34:19

you're no longer black. So he's bringing colorism into it.

34:22

Whereas it's very obvious. Kamala Harris is not African

34:26

American. She's not an American descendant of slavery. And there

34:29

will there black people everywhere and I going on television and trying to explain this with little success.

34:36

John C Dvorak: Let's go back to 2000 when Don Lemon still had a

34:40

show on CNN, Adam Curry: ah, the good old days I missed I missed the dawn

34:44

Meister and he John C Dvorak: was convinced that she was you know, she she

34:48

was not a das for sure. And it was like she doesn't count it

34:52

but she's black but so what even though it's now there's numbers

34:56

coming out showing that you know, even her dad was not even

34:58

fully black but Adam Curry: It's not about color. The point is is beside

35:03

John C Dvorak: the point, but let's listen to Don Lemon go

35:05

after a black woman who's defending cameras being

35:08

American. He does when she's not a black woman. Okay.

35:12

Unknown: I agree with that. I agree with that. But African American? No. But is she African

35:18

American? There's a difference. There's nothing wrong with that.

35:20

No one is trying to take anything away from her to her lineage.

35:23

I think you're falling. I think you're falling into the trap.

35:26

All she had to do was say, I am black. No, I'm not African American.

35:29

That's it. I'm not falling. Let me let me let me finish. Hold on. I'm not

35:36

falling into a trap by that. Adam Curry: April Ryan.

35:39

John C Dvorak: I don't remember I think it is. When she

35:42

Unknown: goes down her lineage. Many Africans landed on in

35:45

Jamaica and all these other Caribbean islands. So she could

35:48

indeed make us not America. You can mix with others but she's

35:51

not American. But she is a black woman. She

35:53

was born. Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz.

36:00

This is not about Ted Cruz. You cannot. It was hypocrisy. I'm not changing the subject. Yes.

36:08

Adam Curry: Cruz. April Ryan is a DOS American descendent of

36:12

stupidity. Jeez, crazy. Yeah. Well, remember the a DOS

36:23

Americans they were okay with Obama, who was Kenyan Hawaiian

36:28

call whatever you want. The Filipino what was he? Not

36:31

Kenyan? Indonesia was Kenya Indonesian. Well,

36:36

John C Dvorak: boy, he is Indonesian. Yeah. But invasion.

36:39

Yeah. Because he had to wait. The whole thing was sketchy.

36:41

Yeah, it Adam Curry: was sketchy, but it was because of Michelle.

36:43

Michelle, a black American woman. Always got Michelle

36:47

that's okay. So called if Kamala wants to win anything with this

36:50

black vote nonsense. She has to have Westmore?

36:55

John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's not happening. It's a fact that was already leaked.

36:58

Adam Curry: I don't actually I didn't see that as a leak.

37:02

John C Dvorak: I saw it as a scam of some sort. Do you have

37:07

you ever clip? It's just it's an ad with music. And it's not a

37:12

clippable. But it was an ad that came out of Pennsylvania

37:17

Philadelphia, I believe from the mayor of Philadelphia

37:20

congratulating Shapiro for being the vice presidential choice

37:23

really Adam Curry: wasn't really congratulating him as well.

37:27

She'll be great with Shapiro. Well,

37:30

John C Dvorak: whatever it was, I think it was just a test dry

37:33

Ryan and maybe there could have been 200 of these dimes. We

37:36

don't know. But Shapiro still. And it's going to be sketchy

37:41

whether they pick strip Shapiro, as I pointed out in the

37:43

newsletter is the wrong. Do you have to give up Michigan if

37:48

you're going to take but Pennsylvania is more important

37:50

than Michigan? And I don't know what they're thinking. But

37:54

Cooper left so that ruins my thinking that was going to be

37:58

Cooper? He said No, I'm not going to do it. No. And, and I

38:02

think, what's her name? They're not going to run to women. I

38:05

don't care what anybody wants. Now Adam Curry: Shapiro did cancel his his trip to the Hamptons,

38:10

days before the reveal on Tuesday. So I think

38:14

John C Dvorak: it's gonna be I still think Shapiro is still at

38:16

the leaderboard. He's the guy but it's going to really screw

38:20

up things because of the Palestinian supporters.

38:23

Adam Curry: Yeah, that's no good. So you don't see I don't

38:26

know you don't think there's any that Vice yours for Harris.

38:31

John C Dvorak: Meet Up. Zoom calls seem to be jacked up about

38:35

Shapiro being the guy. Well, yeah, there Jews. Hello.

38:39

Adam Curry: You don't think there's any I mean, just just thinking as as crazy people who want to assassinate candidates.

38:47

You don't think there's any that Kamala is in any danger?

38:51

John C Dvorak: A big assassinated? Unknown: Yeah.

38:53

John C Dvorak: Was it last time? Since Kennedy? Did anyone even

38:57

took a shot at a Democrat? It's Adam Curry: a cycle.

39:02

John C Dvorak: I don't know. Well, I mean, there was now if

39:05

you haven't noticed, this is in the news. If you give you're

39:07

keeping track if you keep score, no, I'm too big. All of a

39:10

sudden, I don't have a clip and I shouldn't I was thinking about

39:13

getting this clip. I didn't get it. All of a sudden that because

39:16

they're investigating the Secret Service. Now they've gone back

39:20

to the pipe bombs in January. So yes, I did. They came out with a

39:24

report saying oh, these pipe bombs. Those explained it we're

39:27

blaming the Secret Service for leaving the pipe bombs there.

39:30

And then in the in the exposition of this discussion of

39:33

the pipe bombs, they keep saying and one of the pipe there was a

39:36

pipe bomb at the RNC and there's a pipe bomb at the DNC and

39:40

Camela walked right past the pipe bomb Vice President walked

39:46

right past the pipe bomb and she could have been exploded. And

39:51

I'm thinking why is this all of a sudden being discussed as

39:54

anything? Why is it in the new report? So this was maybe a shot

39:59

across the bow Out of warn her or warn everyone that yeah we

40:03

can blow you up I don't know

40:05

Adam Curry: put her on equal footing that's I have I did

40:08

notice that I didn't get any clips I did see articles about

40:11

it that's interesting well yeah it's

40:15

John C Dvorak: out of the blue out of the blue just out of the

40:17

blue boom we're talking about the pipe bombs now whoo

40:22

Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah because that was hushed up like don't

40:24

talk about the pipe bomb. Don't talk about pipe bomb. John C Dvorak: Disappeared.

40:29

Adam Curry: Let me just do a quick headline. Let me just do a quick Google News scan. Let me see what they say. Kamala pipe

40:36

pipe bomb pipe bombs. This will get me on a list.

40:40

John C Dvorak: Yeah, it'll be on a list. Go go use Duck Duck go

40:44

too late. Adam Curry: So listen to this. ABC News New DHS Watchdog Report

40:50

details how close Kamala Harris came to viable pipe bomb. Let me

40:56

see is any other mainstream? The Times Kamala Harris came within

41:04

20 feet of pipe bomb at Capitol riot which is a little

41:08

disingenuous Unknown: put all right MSN

41:14

Adam Curry: Campbell hearts Okay, that's came within 20 feet

41:16

of pipe bomb January 6, if anything, okay, how about this?

41:21

Because they're connecting the pipe bomb to January 6. So how

41:24

about some kind of attempt that we can pan on Republicans and

41:31

attack attempt I'm not saying that it was that it will be

41:34

successful but an attempt because there's a lot of

41:37

connection to January. In fact, everyone's connecting to January

41:41

6. House Pat. Oh, this is this was March. Mmm

41:47

Unknown: hmm. Adam Curry: Oh, we got to keep our eye on this

41:51

John C Dvorak: sentence up. I mean, they're trying to you know, since Trump did get shot with a bullet they finally

41:55

admitted it. Yeah, I have. They're trying to balance it a

41:59

little bit. Well, you know, Trump got shot so what she would

42:03

have been glowed up. Adam Curry: Here's the latest about the Secret Service agents

42:08

and the local cops tonight the

42:10

Unknown: Secret Service acknowledging that their agents

42:12

could not hear radio traffic. In the moments as local police

42:16

desperately tried to find a man who would soon attempt to

42:20

assassinate former president when I snap pops. There was really a big sense of urgency

42:26

going on and the state and locals were doing everything

42:29

they possibly could to try to find the assailant.

42:32

In fact, the Secret Service had no personnel and a key command

42:35

post with a radio traffic about shooter Thomas Matthew crooks

42:39

was being listened to. There was clearly radio transmissions that may have happened on that

42:44

local radio net that we did not have

42:47

acting Secret Service Director Ronald ROH holding a rare press

42:50

conference today. And while he continued to express concerns,

42:54

the local police may have had a vantage point to clearly see the

42:58

shooter on the roof with a rifle. He again laid the blame

43:01

for the overall failures squarely at the feet of his

43:04

agency. And no way should any state or local agency supporting us in

43:09

Butler on July 13 be held responsible for our Secret

43:13

Service failure. And with this blunt assessment as we approach the Democratic

43:18

National Convention, the director warning that we're in a

43:20

quote, unprecedented threat environment

43:23

Adam Curry: unprecedented threat environment, we of course have

43:26

the best producers in the universe. And I have a boots on

43:29

the ground from the night of the thin blue line. He says I've

43:33

many insights in the ways of American law enforcement I have

43:35

some first hand insight as to how local law enforcement

43:38

officers and the United States Secret Service coordinate VIP

43:41

visits. I have worked several presidential visits to my city.

43:45

Do we have the best producers or what? So like George

43:49

Stephanopoulos says, Hey, one of our producers here happen to be

43:53

you know, beyond detail with many presidents and as they

43:56

know, the most recent event was when Trump visited my city for

43:59

the state convention in 2023. Prior to the event, all

44:03

personnel were advised of mandatory overtime all days off

44:07

or canceled all hands on deck for the 300 ish sworn personnel.

44:12

Prior to the start of the day, we local cops attended a

44:15

detailed briefing to go over the written operational plan, then

44:19

included assignments and posting security zones etc. everyone in

44:24

attendance was required to sign the operational plan. And he

44:28

puts in parentheses where's the Philadelphia operational plan

44:31

that would put to rest who was responsible. Most importantly,

44:35

it included how to communicate any security issues up the chain

44:38

of command. So the United States Secret Service agent embedded

44:42

with our commanders could relay information to Secret Service

44:45

personnel on the VIP detail. My post was the highest rooftop

44:50

directly across the street from the event venue. It was a black

44:54

roof eight storeys high in June in the southeast. It was hot We

45:00

didn't just decide to be more comfortable and sit in an air

45:03

conditioned room on the eighth floor of the building instead.

45:06

Our department's motorcycle squad did the Escort from the

45:09

airport to the venue when Trump was about three miles out. We

45:11

were ordered to land all. All drone or UAV assets. No drones

45:18

were able to fly even police drones. Finally, when Trump left

45:21

his motorcade to go inside, there were no fumbling and

45:24

bumbling dei hires who couldn't find their holster. The detail

45:28

was mostly men who all looked like badass operators in nice

45:31

suits who could handle business. Like our dude thin the night of

45:36

the thin blue line, that's how it's supposed to go. It doesn't

45:40

sound like anyone had an operational plan they signed off

45:43

on what did John C Dvorak: I understand that they'd ever had an operational

45:47

plan that they didn't the coordination between the locals

45:50

and the and the Secret Service was the deal. They were bitching

45:55

about it new, like a like a soccer game. Yeah, noodle mill.

46:01

Adam Curry: So when you hear that, that there was definite

46:05

lines of communication in this event? This story sounds weird.

46:10

Unknown: Tonight, a stunning new admission from the Secret

46:13

Service. It was so apparent to me that in this incident, in the final 30

46:18

seconds, there was clearly radio transmissions that may have

46:21

happened on that local radio net that we did not have.

46:25

Look what happened. And the seconds before a gunman opened fire on former President

46:30

Trump. Local police sounded the alarm over their radios that a

46:33

gunman was on the roof. Only the Secret Service didn't get that

46:37

message. This is going to drive our operations going forward.

46:40

Ronald RO, the new Acting Director of the Secret Service

46:43

taking questions from reporters today. At the first press

46:46

conference since the July 13. Rally press by NBC News as to

46:50

why Secret Service agents didn't know local police were

46:53

communicating about the shooter row explained we had

46:56

our security room and then they had a unified command post. We

46:59

have to rethink how we you know, where we put our security

47:03

rooms and local and federal law enforcement who have worked with

47:06

Secret Service tell NBC News this type of coordination is

47:09

critical. How important is it for sort of service and local

47:13

law enforcement to be together physically during an event is

47:16

extremely vital so you have no communication gaps between the agencies.

47:21

Today's revelations coming just days after row fell under sharp

47:24

scrutiny from senators that demanded more answers. He

47:27

promised the agency is doing a full review and will discipline

47:31

or fire agents who should be held accountable. And tonight

47:34

the coroner's report obtained by our Pittsburgh affiliate WP exci

47:38

confirms crooks was killed by a gunshot to the head. Oh,

47:42

Adam Curry: thanks, Captain Obvious. No, there you go. So

47:47

that smells bad. John C Dvorak: Well, like I said they're blaming this guy row is

47:55

just as as responsible as the Cheadle woman as he shot he

48:00

should go yeah effect he should quit. I

48:03

Adam Curry: have two more Kamala clips on if you have any more

48:06

but like the one. John C Dvorak: I just want to play this one first. Okay, which

48:10

is one of the one of my weird clips. Okay, WTF clip is the WTF

48:17

clip Unknown: earlier this week speaking to a gathering of Black

48:19

Journalists, former President Donald Trump questioned vice

48:22

president Kamala Harris's racial identity.

48:25

And now she wants to be known as black. So

48:28

I don't know. Is she Indian? Or is she black?

48:30

She is always a black college.

48:33

I respect either one. But she obviously doesn't

48:37

John C Dvorak: know, in there that we played this clip before

48:40

in this entirety. Yes. The the journalist from ABC says she's

48:47

always identified as a black woman, which is a blatant lie.

48:52

That's not true. We have plenty of clips of Kamala identifying

48:56

as an as a South Asian woman over and over and over again.

49:01

They had specials on her done with other Indians and she was

49:05

the South Bay. So that's bullcrap. So she does ABC

49:09

reporter who was very hostile. I agree. Yes. We just lie right

49:14

there. Adam Curry: Well, the Kamala is was so all in on your Indian

49:18

heritage. She should be running Google. I mean, seriously, there

49:21

was just a continuous or more Microsoft or any big tech

49:25

company for that matter. This is who is this? This is conserve

49:32

the culture founder, and an activist Makayla Montgomery. A

49:37

Unknown: few days ago, President Trump said he didn't know vice

49:40

president Harris was a black woman. I'm trying to figure out

49:43

what all the outrage is about because he's the only black when

49:45

it's time to get elected. She's very good.

49:52

John C Dvorak: He did you see he brought her on a second time.

49:54

Go. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's got he's got a gold mine and this

49:58

one. She's skeptical. Unknown: It is good

50:07

the same black people who are mad at Trump for being confused

50:10

about her race, ethnicity, nationality, whatever, are

50:14

seemingly forgetting that while you're touting her as the Savior

50:16

for black people, she identifies as an Asian woman. She chose her

50:22

side and it wasn't ours. When asked if she would ever do

50:26

anything specifically for black people, she said no. Whereas

50:30

Trump gave us the platinum plan. Lifted the black community by

50:35

increasing capital by almost $500 billion, creating 500,000

50:40

new black businesses and would give black churches the ability

50:43

to fight for federal resources for their communities.

50:49

Adam Curry: Now there's, there's another thing in there that I

50:52

learned from the OFAC show that in the workplace, most a Das,

50:59

I'm just going to make it very clear, are severely

51:03

discriminated against by Asians, ie Indians, particularly in the

51:08

tech sector. John C Dvorak: Oh, that's interesting. I can see that she

51:14

Adam Curry: was like to a severe degree. And when the whole Floyd

51:20

thing came around with all these, all of a sudden, then all

51:24

these Silicon Valley companies, you know, these tech companies

51:27

like, Hey, you're black once you come to the meeting and tell

51:29

everybody how you feel. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

51:37

of course, there's a lot of classist issues in general.

51:41

Yeah. I always John C Dvorak: had that with brought with Indians. Because

51:44

only ones that are over here, really, to any extreme or

51:48

Brahmins. Yeah. And they're very classic, classist, and they

51:52

wonder, Adam Curry: the ones that listen to no agenda.

51:57

John C Dvorak: No, even even our Brahmins, there's no question

52:01

about it. But there's just they just happened to be up to date

52:07

with things a little better. But Indians is from my sources. The

52:14

Indian contingents in the United States are just baffled

52:19

Brahmins. They're baffled by why we don't have a class structure

52:23

doesn't make sense to them. We do. We got Puerto Rico, but not

52:27

in any any rigid ways. Not like, I mean, the Brahmin, you're the

52:32

one you're the one that touchable is the other end of

52:35

the spectrum is very rigid. You're you're

52:37

Adam Curry: promoting favelas. I mean, come on.

52:42

John C Dvorak: We're very classist. Well, promoting

52:45

favelas is different. Okay. It's a housing. That's a practical

52:50

solution to Adam Curry: a problem the housing price housing program.

52:57

John C Dvorak: By the way that comes up with the there's nobody

53:00

has been able to debate my favorite in fact, JC buzzkill

53:05

Jr, he likes to always cite the he sees urban analysis of

53:11

authors, including one famous woman whose name is eluding me.

53:17

They're really kind of there's there's an undercurrent in terms

53:21

of urban development and urban theory that favelas are not a

53:26

bad idea. Adam Curry: Well, if I could, if I could add to it, I think we

53:29

should do the American version of a favela. You've already

53:32

picked the spot is that hill overlooking San Francisco? It's

53:36

John C Dvorak: on the other side. Actually. It's on this

53:38

one. This is South San Francisco. It's on the site. It

53:41

overlooks the peninsula really not so much.

53:44

Adam Curry: Is it a nice view, though? Oh, it's dynamite

53:47

killer. Well, then, instead of you know, the shanty towns, it

53:50

just dropped a whole bunch of federally funded to tiny homes,

53:54

then you kind of have like the community

53:57

John C Dvorak: first village, this this is this I had to argue

54:00

against this sort of thinking, no, why no reason. Because then

54:05

all of a sudden you're gonna have regulations and zoning. You

54:09

cannot allow the government involved but there's but there's

54:12

Adam Curry: where it's working in Austin community first

54:15

village, there's no regulation, the government's not involved.

54:18

So just have the tech guys. But

54:20

John C Dvorak: it's not in in any way. A shanty town know that

54:25

where people are building their own stuff, and they're just

54:28

introducing, regulating regulation is the key to this.

54:33

Adam Curry: Okay. All right. Can we can we make wood available?

54:39

John C Dvorak: Most people can find wood. Okay, but yeah, it'd

54:42

be nice to do you do what they used to do with remember the

54:45

riots that used to take place during the Floyd and don't brick

54:49

and Tifa here. That's where you'd go. You'd go around the

54:52

corner and there'd be a load of bricks. Yeah. That somebody left

54:57

there so they could throw the bricks at the cops. Yeah, yeah.

55:00

No one ever knew where these bricks came from those guys yeah

55:03

drop some wood and bring those guys back and have dropped

55:06

bricks and wood in there yeah sure you could do that.

55:10

Adam Curry: I still I'm not against your idea at all i

55:13

John C Dvorak: i see it as argue against but

55:16

Adam Curry: still the land has to be made available by the

55:18

government so they have to nest the B City Council

55:21

John C Dvorak: it says fallow it's sitting up there right now

55:23

there's not being used for it. So for this set for this signage

55:26

it says South San Francisco that can be removed I'll leave it

55:30

there leave it up put it put lights or you can use it to

55:32

build part of the house. Adam Curry: put lights on it so people can see it from from from

55:36

the from down below. John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, by the way that where the Hollywood

55:44

sign is in LA now the perfect spot Yeah,

55:47

Adam Curry: it was a great spot. The Sonya Massey. Killing is

55:53

gaining steam ahead of the convention in Chicago.

55:57

Unknown: It's been about two weeks since the body camera

56:00

footage of 36 year old Sonya Massey being fatally shot by

56:03

sheriff's deputy was released to the public.

56:05

All too often, black Americans face fear for their safety in

56:11

ways many of the rest of us do not on July

56:15

6 Massey was shot and killed by former deputy Sean Grayson

56:18

inside her home in Springfield, Illinois. This happened after

56:21

police say she called 911 To report a prowler in her

56:23

neighborhood. Grayson has since been fired from his job and

56:26

charged with her murder. He's pleaded not guilty to all

56:29

charges while the Sangamon County Sheriff's Department has

56:32

spoken out against the shooting, saying it does not reflect their

56:34

values and training. Here at home activists are calling for

56:40

justice and change any

56:42

improved since the killing of George Floyd and 2020. Pastor

56:49

George Floyd Bill organisers

56:51

held a peaceful protests outside Chicago police headquarters

56:54

calling for the passing of the George Floyd justice and

56:57

policing Act. The bill increases accountability for law

57:00

enforcement misconduct. Adam Curry: By the way, I see. Yes, yes.

57:07

John C Dvorak: So the guy was a rat kicked off his job. charged

57:11

with murder. Yes, no justice. And he's, he's charged. They've

57:16

arrested him for murder, which is what was appropriate, and

57:20

they want him to do what what more do they want to torture

57:23

him? Right? No, Adam Curry: no, they want the George Floyd Act signed, which

57:27

was John C Dvorak: going to accomplish that their normal

57:30

justice system that already arrested the guy for murder.

57:34

What's what's what's, what needs to be done? I'm not getting

57:39

this. Adam Curry: That's a very good question. Let me see what the

57:42

st. Floyd Act includes.

57:47

John C Dvorak: They want to police officers accountable. That guy has been arrested for murder Hello. The

57:51

Adam Curry: bill enhances enforcement mechanisms to remedy

57:54

violations by law enforcement. Among other things does the

57:57

following lowers the criminal criminal intent standard from

58:00

willful to knowing or reckless to convict a law enforcement

58:05

officer misconduct in federal prosecution limits qualified

58:09

immunity as a defense to liability in a private civil

58:12

action against law enforcement officer and grants

58:15

administrative subpoena power to the Department of Justice in

58:18

pattern or practice investigations? That's probably

58:21

the big one right there.

58:23

John C Dvorak: So it's got nothing to do with this case.

58:26

The guy's been arrested for murder. I will say this is all

58:29

specious. This is all this is all designed. It's it's PR.

58:35

Well, it's more in PR. It's trying to handcuff the police.

58:39

Yes. Adam Curry: Was PR. I will say I saw the second body cam footage

58:45

and I'm not saying that this cop did the right thing. But the the

58:49

woman when she she threw the boiling water was throwing the

58:53

boiling water at the COP and that's when he shot not saying

58:56

that that was the right thing to do. But no one saw that. Did you

59:01

even know it? No, John C Dvorak: I did not know this because there's there's two

59:05

bodies. My understanding since you saw that I didn't my

59:09

understanding was that she threat just threatened to do it

59:12

and never did. Yeah, the way it was presented to me Yeah, no,

59:16

Adam Curry: you actually see the water being thrown. But I didn't

59:19

know if was boiling. I don't know any of that. But it doesn't

59:22

matter because it was not not good. Anyway, I really do you

59:30

have anything else on Trump or anything? Because there's not

59:32

much going on right now. I mean, just the same old same old

59:35

everyone's forgotten that he almost got killed. That doesn't

59:38

seem to be a thing anymore. I John C Dvorak: have a I have two series on on Trump one is their

59:43

clock one. That one of them is they're trying to pin something

59:49

on him to kind of like soften the blow the Biden you know,

59:54

obvious corruption and graft. So they've come up with this bull

59:58

crap. This is Carol land. Then, on the Trump bribe

1:00:06

Adam Curry: Carol, who is she? Carol Lennox, Lennox or Lenin?

1:00:09

Oh, it's John C Dvorak: says she's introduced. I'm

1:00:12

Unknown: pretty sure. And Carol, I want to ask you because you

1:00:15

have a new exclusive out about a secret investigation into

1:00:19

whether Donald Trump response ties from the long

1:00:23

Adam Curry: clip man. John C Dvorak: She Yeah, I'm sorry. She is a reporter for The

1:00:28

Washington Post. She's implying that Trump was given a bribe in

1:00:35

cash from Adam Curry: Egypt. Is that the thing? Yeah,

1:00:38

Unknown: yeah, yeah. Okay, Tim, President Abdel Fatah, LCC, a

1:00:42

legend. And allegedly, the legend walk us through exactly

1:00:46

how did $10 million possibly get from the Government of Egypt to

1:00:51

then President Elect Donald Trump?

1:00:53

What happened and what was jaw dropping jaw dropping US

1:00:57

government? Investigators, federal prosecutors FBI agents

1:01:02

was the CIA in early 2017 alerted the Department of

1:01:06

Justice, that they had credible intelligence from an informant

1:01:11

and corroborated by additional intelligence gathering, that LCC

1:01:16

had plans in late 2016, to basically inject or illegally

1:01:22

give $10 million to Donald Trump's reelection efforts.

1:01:26

Essentially, he wanted to help Donald Trump get elected and he

1:01:29

was going to do this with $10 million. Under the table.

1:01:33

investigators looked and looked and looked to figure out if this

1:01:37

intelligence was true, could they figure out was this money

1:01:40

ever spirited to Donald Trump? Did he have spirited?

1:01:44

Adam Curry: Why would you use that term? spirited? That's

1:01:47

interesting. Unknown: Spirited intelligence was true. Could they figure out

1:01:53

was this money ever spirited to Donald Trump? Did he in their

1:01:57

words accept a bribe? But the problem was, although they found

1:02:02

a debate, Tyro bank had made a bizarre withdrawal of cash

1:02:08

exactly matching the intelligence $10 million pulled

1:02:13

out of essentially the Egyptian CIA's account, just as the

1:02:18

intelligence suggested they found this withdrawal of cash

1:02:22

stuffed into duffel bags, five days before Donald Trump became

1:02:27

president. But the problem for investigators in the United

1:02:30

States was they wanted to get Donald Trump's records his bank

1:02:34

records to determine did that money from Cairo that was so

1:02:38

suspicious $10 million in US bills, did it land in Donald

1:02:43

Trump's accounts? And the US attorney and basically said no,

1:02:48

I'm not going to let you subpoena those records. You

1:02:51

don't have enough evidence to do that. And Bill Barr, the

1:02:55

attorney general at the time he killed very suspicious of this

1:02:59

request to subpoena for records and express doubts about whether

1:03:03

or not this case was justified. In the end, the prosecutors and

1:03:08

the FBI agents threw up their hands they said they couldn't do

1:03:12

this investigation without getting that information. And

1:03:15

they were despondent because they felt they had a lot of

1:03:17

evidence suggesting this could be true they had to find out if

1:03:21

it was and they were never allowed to do that. So

1:03:25

Adam Curry: in in the world in which we live where the media

1:03:27

believes that they are the ones that choose our presidents this

1:03:30

would be a smokescreen for the ACT blue shenanigans going on

1:03:34

with his 200 million for Harris John C Dvorak: right it also drives takes away from the guy

1:03:40

that democratic just yeah quit become a gold bar man a gold bar

1:03:46

Bob gold bar ba why why is this definitely a smokescreen and it

1:03:51

here's a couple of things that should be noted the CIA can look

1:03:55

at anybody's bank account they would have seen this they didn't

1:03:58

need to really do any of this this was both This is bull crap

1:04:02

this is the same as the 51 CIA guys who intelligence experts

1:04:07

who said well yeah the laptops bull crap even though the effort

1:04:10

right there from recession Russian disinformation and the

1:04:13

Russian Is that true so the whole this is this is a bogus

1:04:18

story, Adam Curry: but why is the why use the term spirited I look at

1:04:22

the definition I don't see how you can connect. Transferring

1:04:25

money to spirited unless it's John C Dvorak: like I spirited is a term you would use in

1:04:31

writing to imply sneaking it you spiriting it off you're sneaking

1:04:36

it Adam Curry: like a go like a ghost. Okay, gotcha.

1:04:39

John C Dvorak: So I think is a good use of the word I would

1:04:42

never do use it myself. But I think that's what she's trying

1:04:44

to get. She's trying to get the image in your brain that she

1:04:47

just goes like, go be ready. Druce Yes. Okay, got it. Got it.

1:04:51

Part two. Unknown: It's pretty stunning, Carol. I mean, Egypt has been in

1:04:55

Adam Curry: let me step away for the enthusiasm. Yeah, that's

1:04:58

pretty stunning, Carol. Yeah, that's Unknown: pretty stunning. and Carol, I mean, Egypt has been in

1:05:01

the news a lot lately, namely because Democratic Senator Bob

1:05:05

Menendez was convicted just last Oh, of acting as a foreign agent

1:05:09

for Egypt. Is there a possible pattern here? Egypt's efforts in

1:05:16

trying to influence us politicians?

1:05:19

The key linchpin in all of this, Laura Wow. So

1:05:22

Adam Curry: they have, they can't really do Russia anymore.

1:05:26

So we're gonna do Egypt now. Now, Egypt, the brothers

1:05:28

John C Dvorak: also this this element we noticed earlier in

1:05:31

the show with the pipe bomb is that we have to have a balancing

1:05:35

act, the Democrats, Democrats did this. Take a shot at Trump.

1:05:40

Yeah. So we added all that somehow. Now the Republicans who

1:05:43

even though we don't have any evidence whatsoever, let's just

1:05:46

dream up a story and make it so as he admitted Menendez disowned

1:05:50

of Trump. Oh, it was taking a bribe and $10 million bribe.

1:05:54

Meanwhile, of course, they act blue thing, like you said, is

1:05:58

hundreds of millions but okay, the

1:06:01

Unknown: key linchpin in all of this, Laura is again, Egypt's

1:06:05

general intelligence agency, essentially, LCC CIA. This is an

1:06:10

important spy network that CC has relied upon to pressure and

1:06:15

push for his agenda abroad.

1:06:17

Adam Curry: Oh, wait, this this also this has a secondary

1:06:21

benefit, because we know that Egypt won't taking any

1:06:24

Palestinians. So let's make those guys look stupid.

1:06:28

Unknown: Possibly, yeah, especially

1:06:31

in the United States. What what Menendez is bribery conviction

1:06:35

and trial showed was the general intelligence services top

1:06:39

officials were reaching out and making friends with Menendez and

1:06:45

trying to steer him to push specific things that were

1:06:50

important to see see on the world stage. They went so far as

1:06:54

Menendez actually giving them some important information that

1:06:58

was pretty sensitive about employees of our government who

1:07:03

are in Egypt, which was pretty sensitive information. And it

1:07:07

went so far that he took a lot of money from people who are

1:07:12

operating at each IPS bidding, and he was accused of being a

1:07:17

foreign agent of that country. The general intelligence service

1:07:21

once again, CC's CIA was the entity that the US Intelligence

1:07:28

said would be used to spirit this money to Donald Trump. And

1:07:33

the general intelligence service account is where that bizarre

1:07:37

$10 million cash withdrawal came from.

1:07:41

Carolyn egg of The Washington Post, thank you for your time.

1:07:44

Riveting, Adam Curry: riveting. Riveting riveting. Carol, thanks. So

1:07:48

John C Dvorak: that's just a smear, smear. Just same. smears

1:07:52

didn't go spirited, schmeer schmeer, it was a schmear in the

1:07:57

Jewish sense. I have two other ones. I got Trump in Atlanta and

1:08:02

NPR clip. Unknown: Former President Donald Trump held a rally in the

1:08:06

battleground state of Georgia today is NPR Stephen Fowler

1:08:10

reports the state has a new significance in the presidential

1:08:13

race. Trump's packed rally had the same crowd size and energy as vice

1:08:17

president Harris's rally days earlier. Exactly the same exact

1:08:21

same venue, John C Dvorak: by the way, stop stop is that even though the

1:08:24

Democrats had to bring in two homeless, they bust them in and

1:08:29

pay people money to show up at the Harris campaign and then

1:08:32

brought a Torker in a hip hop artist. Megan came from there,

1:08:37

Megan, the stallion, Megan, the stallion. And they did that. And

1:08:42

it was like the same. Exactly the same. Okay.

1:08:45

Adam Curry: Also news guy on on the tiktoks he was he was

1:08:48

showing crowds waiting in line for a Harris event and it was

1:08:52

all AI it was all you know, people really see the people

1:08:58

holding up signs with their hands going through the sign

1:09:00

and, and very, very weird things like yeah, that doesn't really

1:09:04

look authentic brah there's, those

1:09:06

Unknown: campaigns are paying attention to the Peach State.

1:09:09

It's one of several newly competitive states now that

1:09:11

Harris is in the race. And we can't let that happen. Because if we lose Georgia, we

1:09:16

lose all thing and our country goes to hell, because we can't

1:09:20

have her be President of the United States. She's grossly

1:09:24

incompetent. Both Trump and Harris have launched multimillion dollar ad

1:09:28

buys across seven battleground states that will decide who wins

1:09:31

in November. Stephen Fowler, NPR news, Atlanta.

1:09:35

Adam Curry: I'm noticing this flaw in in the Trump campaign.

1:09:39

And I really started to pay attention to it when he said at

1:09:43

the end, a BJ BJ interview, that their whole campaign was geared

1:09:50

towards Joe Biden, and that they really weren't prepared for

1:09:54

Harris and I can't understand why he hasn't called her

1:09:58

cackling camera. yet. I mean, it's so obvious. He needs a name

1:10:05

like lion Camela. No cackling camera that that is I think

1:10:09

that's persuasive. This

1:10:12

John C Dvorak: has come. This has come up this has come up in

1:10:16

the conversation if you listen to enough of these resources,

1:10:20

which is the dead the Trump campaign, supposedly I don't I'm

1:10:24

not buying this completely, that the Trump campaign was flat

1:10:28

footed. When Biden bailed? I wouldn't say that. And they

1:10:34

don't they're still strategizing, what to do. And

1:10:39

Trump's kind of ad libbing. That's where he that thing about

1:10:42

the Indian heritage kind of came out even though it seems like a

1:10:47

plot to me it seems like he was he schemed that but they're

1:10:50

making it sound as though he just made it up on the fly,

1:10:53

which he doesn't do that much of he practices his bits. Yes, he's

1:10:58

maybe test your right cackling camera would be a lot better,

1:11:01

because it does give you an image or

1:11:04

Adam Curry: calm communist Camela. I mean, you can do a lot

1:11:06

of things, a lot of alliteration opportunities.

1:11:09

John C Dvorak: It's only been a week or so. So give him a little

1:11:12

time. All right. Adam Curry: Well, there's another thing I feel they're not

1:11:15

prepared for. And this is a it's a it's a risky move, but no

1:11:19

agenda shop may want to may want to think about it. No

1:11:22

John C Dvorak: agenda shop.com.com.

1:11:26

Adam Curry: So all of Trumps merchandise, has 4547 on it.

1:11:31

This is very, very risky. Because he may have to make it

1:11:36

48 If Joe dies, and Kamala becomes the 46 the 47 president,

1:11:45

his merch will be no good. John C Dvorak: Wow. So that is about as obscure. A concept as

1:11:51

I've heard. Thank you. So good. No, it makes it collectible.

1:11:55

Adam Curry: Yeah, well, yes. But being ready and having Trump 48

1:12:03

Would you'd be you'd be ahead of everybody.

1:12:06

John C Dvorak: Yeah, the problem with that is that if that guy if

1:12:09

like somebody leaked a 48 out there, that would mean he's not

1:12:12

quitting. He's staying in office, you know, or some some

1:12:16

scam ish thing they would come up with? Would that is an

1:12:20

interesting point. Yes. He would have to change it to 4548.

1:12:24

Adam Curry: Yes. Or just 48 or just 48? Yeah, just a thought.

1:12:33

Just a thought. John C Dvorak: Well, anything can happen. If you saw the one

1:12:37

clip which I reposted on Twitter. I use Twitter. Yes.

1:12:41

I've seen you with this one clip that's floating around. It's

1:12:45

It's It's Biden at the at the meeting with the hostage

1:12:50

exchange. And he wanders off as it's want to do. He's wanders

1:12:56

off and wanders onto another plane and just goes in. Well, do

1:13:00

you see this? Yes, Adam Curry: I did. Well, I want to say a couple of things about

1:13:03

it. Because this was the the airplane that brought the

1:13:07

Russian prisoners in the prisoner swap, which we can

1:13:10

certainly talk about. The White House has come up with a

1:13:15

statement so he walked up the stairs and I mean, certainly the

1:13:19

way it was positioned that the clip the way Kamala was looking

1:13:22

at him doing what he doing. I mean, it was almost like Hey,

1:13:27

Joe, Joe, Joe would come back. John C Dvorak: He wondered it was but it was one of those

1:13:32

wandering off things like he did in the in Europe when he

1:13:36

wandered off to the wrong guy who, you know, De Beers.

1:13:39

Adam Curry: Yeah, well, what the White House has come out with a

1:13:42

statement. The interlude for Biden lasted two minutes. The

1:13:48

President was out of view for about a minute and 40 seconds.

1:13:50

President Biden wanted to personally thank the flight

1:13:53

crew, who brought these brave injured individuals home to

1:13:57

their families. White House Deputy Press Secretary Andrew

1:14:01

Bates sold the Daily Mail. Now, that is already barely

1:14:06

believable. But you can see that he walks up the stairs and turns

1:14:10

right, he doesn't turn left towards the flight crew unless

1:14:13

you want to thank those. John C Dvorak: I do recall him he looks like he turned right. I

1:14:17

want the best excuses. He had to go to the bathroom.

1:14:21

Adam Curry: That would have been good. That would have been better. John C Dvorak: It would have been more logical.

1:14:28

Adam Curry: According to tinfoil hat in the troll room, the flight crew is actually on the tarmac next to the plane. Well,

1:14:32

that makes it even funnier. Let me just talk about this for a

1:14:36

second because this deal. Let me see. Alright, so here's the CBS

1:14:44

and by the way that overshadowed the deal itself. You know,

1:14:47

everyone's like, Oh, look at that guy. But more. Everyone's

1:14:51

very distracted by that. Not at all talking about the deal.

1:14:57

Unknown: Marine veteran Paul Whelan was the first former As

1:15:00

an urge to step back onto us soil, immediately welcomed home

1:15:04

by President Biden and vice president Harris. Wall Street

1:15:07

Journal reporter Evan Gersh. KOVITCH soon followed, embracing

1:15:11

his mother on the tarmac and journalist also commercial law

1:15:21

who could not wait to see her daughter's. To me.

1:15:26

This is about the essence of who we are as a country. It really

1:15:30

is about personal relationships about families, Whelan's

1:15:33

family played a critical role securing his release. They were

1:15:37

disappointed when he was not part of the last prisoner swap

1:15:40

with Moscow that freed WNBA star Brittney Griner and former US

1:15:46

Marine Trevor Reed sometimes some harsh words with the government having to keep

1:15:51

them accountable for taking care of us. But in the end, you know,

1:15:55

here I am. At least five Americans remain imprisoned in Russia, including

1:15:59

61 year old Mark Fogle, a teacher from Pennsylvania. Two

1:16:04

years ago, Fogle was sentenced to 14 years and a penal colony

1:16:08

for possessing medical marijuana. In his statement to

1:16:11

CBS News, his family said we are completely heartbroken and

1:16:15

outraged that Mark has been left behind while the US government

1:16:19

brought other Americans home. President Biden vowed to fight

1:16:23

for Fogle. We're not given up or we're not given up on that

1:16:27

the agreement led to the release of 24 prisoners by seven

1:16:30

different countries. Among the fried Russians, a convicted

1:16:34

murderer, several spies and hackers on CBS mornings National

1:16:39

Security Adviser Jake Sullivan justified the trade.

1:16:43

At the end of the day, the President looked at this deal.

1:16:46

And he said what we are getting the value of human life, the

1:16:50

value of families back together, the value of standing up for

1:16:53

freedom of the press far exceeds what we are giving up by sending

1:16:58

a few more criminals back to Russia, right. So

1:17:00

Adam Curry: the American media was completely useless on giving

1:17:02

us any details or really how the deal fit together. I went to the

1:17:06

European media, France 24 and Deutsche Avella. And first of

1:17:10

all, I mean, just considering the swap. I would say the

1:17:14

Washington Post guy probably was a spook he probably was spying

1:17:18

there. That's what he was arrested for. And that's why

1:17:21

they wanted him back. That's just my feeling. I have nothing

1:17:25

to base that I feel the same way. And here's the here's the

1:17:29

sister of the Fogle guy. Unknown: It was a long awaited reunion for the freed American

1:17:34

prisoners and their loved ones. For the families of those still

1:17:37

being held in Russian prisons. It's also a huge disappointment.

1:17:41

American Mark Fogle was not part of the exchange on the first of

1:17:44

August. It's bittersweet that Mark they left Mark behind they just

1:17:49

that's that's what happened. And they they preferred other people

1:17:56

over him. Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, we want something valuable is to this.

1:18:01

What is valuable is human life, says, Jake, as human life except

1:18:06

yours, you're less less valuable. Deutsch Avila actually

1:18:10

had some details, which I appreciated.

1:18:13

Unknown: So what do we know about the size and scale of this

1:18:16

deal? Well, this was the largest prisoner swap in the post Soviet

1:18:21

era and it took place in Turkey, the US, Russia and others

1:18:26

exchange 24 prisoners and two children. 10 people have been

1:18:31

moved to Russia for 16 Western and Russian nationals. Now

1:18:36

perhaps the most well known of them is Wall Street Journal

1:18:39

reporter Evan Gursky vich he was detained in Russia on spying

1:18:42

charges in March of last year. German national Rico Kay who was

1:18:47

sentenced to death in Bella rousse on terrorism charges is

1:18:51

also among those freed as is Vadim grassy cough, a Russian

1:18:57

who was convicted of the 2019 murder of a former church and

1:19:01

Millicent in Berlin. While speaking about the exchange, US

1:19:05

President Joe Biden paid particular tribute to German

1:19:08

leader Olaf Schultz are particularly

1:19:11

great sense of gratitude to the chancellor. The demands are

1:19:20

making a may require me to get some significant concessions

1:19:25

from Germany, which they originally concluded they could

1:19:29

not do because of the personal question. But everybody stepped

1:19:33

up, Paul stepped up so he stepped up Turkey stepped up.

1:19:37

And it matters to have relationships really does.

1:19:41

Adam Curry: So that was a lot going on on this deal that we

1:19:43

really don't know about. John C Dvorak: But I do want to mention some of the it's kind of

1:19:48

amusing, which is the two children that were the kids of

1:19:53

one of the spies that went back to Russia. were completely

1:19:56

unaware that they're Russian wandering Who the hell this

1:20:00

Putin guy Adam Curry: was? Why are we on this plane going to Moscow? Why

1:20:05

are we on this John C Dvorak: plane going to mind? They don't speak Russian.

1:20:08

Wow. And they were completely befuddled the stories about the

1:20:11

two kids being what happened to us is apparently hilarious.

1:20:18

Adam Curry: Yeah, so I guess this is part PR, because it's

1:20:23

the WaPo is a journalist and oil journalist.

1:20:27

John C Dvorak: You know, I always wonder how leaky The CIA

1:20:30

is when it comes to these guys. Ever since the entire Chinese,

1:20:37

you know, infrastructure of American spy agents in China

1:20:43

that were that were all arrested and shot? Yeah, because of a one

1:20:48

one counter agent that was working for the CIA, given the

1:20:52

names away. If this you know, it's like every spoken in Russia

1:20:57

is not identified already. Yeah. There's just keeping an eye on I

1:21:04

mean, they arrested that one guy for for whatever reason,

1:21:07

Adam Curry: because here's the thing. They didn't if this if

1:21:09

this was a PR move, they didn't do it right. Now is the is the

1:21:15

is the guy in the morning shows as you're doing interviews, is

1:21:18

he out there talking about how great Joe and Kamala are? Yeah,

1:21:21

it was, I couldn't believe it. I set my foot back home on

1:21:25

American soil and there was the President the Vice President to

1:21:28

greet me even waiting to get my bag off the plane. That would

1:21:33

have been the way it would have been the way to play it. Now, so

1:21:41

it's just feels wrong. And we all got really distracted by by

1:21:47

Biden's meandering. Because it was it was funny. Oh, it was

1:21:54

hilarious. But when I see that I'm like, Okay, what are we

1:21:57

missing here? And what we're missing is the actual story. So

1:22:03

and how can you even remember one of the other names of the

1:22:06

other days apparently is 1000 Americans in jail in in in

1:22:10

Russia? John C Dvorak: No, of course not. No. Okay, so

1:22:16

Adam Curry: not a good job. People not a good job. Anything

1:22:20

else on this because we've got to go to the UK.

1:22:24

John C Dvorak: Let's go to the UK. UK

1:22:27

Adam Curry: is in chaos. And our producer boots on the ground

1:22:32

Sarah has been keeping me very up to date. Most of it not

1:22:37

usable for the show but just so I kind of know what's happening.

1:22:42

She's you know, there's a lot of people doing YouTube videos and

1:22:45

Tik Tok videos and a kind of take that for what it is but

1:22:49

there's a lot of videos of people with machetes and knife

1:22:54

fights and hammers and going crazy is a background I

1:22:58

John C Dvorak: I have a background or it's the only thing I have is this one. I said something to the last show but I

1:23:03

bumped it for this one. This is the UK riots. This is the newest

1:23:07

version from NPR. It's a very short and extremely short

1:23:12

backgrounder. It was Unknown: a violent day and several British cities today

1:23:15

riots involving hundreds of anti immigration protesters began

1:23:18

after false information spread on social media to set the

1:23:21

suspect in a knife attack earlier this week was a radical

1:23:24

Muslim immigrant. Police say the suspect was born in Wales.

1:23:27

John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Now see, this is the we've had three

1:23:31

versions of this guy first he was a immigrant and then he was

1:23:35

a you Rwandan Adam Curry: which I think that's the truth. He He's born of

1:23:39

Rwanda and immigrant parents Unknown: in Wales.

1:23:44

Adam Curry: I don't know about Wales, but John C Dvorak: that's what he said. He said he's born in

1:23:47

Wales. I don't know about Wales. So how many Rwanda is there in

1:23:51

Wales? That then go to London? So Chuck

1:23:55

Adam Curry: wasn't in London? Hello. Oh, it wasn't in London.

1:23:58

I'm sure I thought it was in London. No, no, no Southport.

1:24:00

This is this is the North okay. John C Dvorak: Now well, beside the point it's nowhere near near

1:24:04

Wales. Be careful No, where near Wales. Okay.

1:24:11

Adam Curry: Let me see. Southport and Wales.

1:24:15

Unknown: Hmm. Adam Curry: This No, this is more this is Liverpool. Anyway,

1:24:26

the what's happening is so this has been bubbling under for a

1:24:32

long time in the UK. People are very tired of the immigration.

1:24:38

And there was even a story here. Yes, facts on a plate. Our

1:24:46

population is at least 77 million somewhere. So the UK has

1:24:51

gone from 59 million in 2001 to between 77 and 80 million by,

1:25:00

you know, by this by the independence count and and

1:25:05

they're saying well of course this is all immigration. And you

1:25:08

know if you follow Tommy Robinson who's a little tough to

1:25:11

follow because, you know, he's so vilified and he speaks like a

1:25:16

hooligan. It's just, it's just what he is the way he speaks.

1:25:21

But you know, there's a lot of we've seen the grooming, a lot

1:25:25

of a lot of horrible things. And even someone looked it up for me

1:25:28

back in episode 986, or something of the show. We were

1:25:33

talking about the increased knife fight knife crime in the

1:25:37

UK, and I remember weddings, we got people like, Hey, shut up.

1:25:40

It's not that bad. John C Dvorak: Now yet people are saying that just about Nigel

1:25:45

Farage. Yes,

1:25:47

Adam Curry: exactly. Oh, well, so Faraj, of course, you know,

1:25:50

these are now his people. So the people who are out there and

1:25:54

these are northerners now this is what happened with the when

1:25:57

the iron lady came in. What's her face? Yeah, your lady was

1:26:02

Thatcher. Yeah. When Thatcher came in, you know, we had the

1:26:05

guys from the north come down with their, you know, the thin

1:26:07

white English dudes with their pitchforks and their torches.

1:26:11

And, you know, you don't want to piss these guys off, and they're

1:26:14

all walking around, you know, with they're all tatted up.

1:26:17

They're all workers that blue collar. They got the Union Jack

1:26:20

right draped around their shoulders, and they're tired of

1:26:23

it. So they of course, are the far right. The far right don't

1:26:27

understand it's the far right. The far right is writing. The

1:26:30

far right is a problem. Here's here's a short clip from a

1:26:37

podcaster Paul Thorpe and he's one of the he's one of them.

1:26:42

See, Unknown: these losers have become case Thomas. And the

1:26:46

mainstream media is useful idiots. and I are allowing them

1:26:51

to hide the bigger picture from all of us. So we get a problem

1:26:55

three, the real protesters, the ordinary mums and dads and dads

1:26:59

and granddad's are now of course, predictably, being

1:27:03

lumped in with the rioters we knew that was going to happen

1:27:07

didn't wait, allowing star ma to dismiss the real witchy unlike

1:27:12

the blind firmly at the door of the so called far right, which

1:27:16

has now become a term surely that needs to be quickly put to

1:27:21

sleep before the country explodes. Doesn't this

1:27:26

government doesn't in the mainstream media realize that

1:27:29

every single unfair every single biased headline all this

1:27:35

misleading and inaccurate rhetoric is unreleased stoking

1:27:39

the fire. And their refusal to look at the bigger picture is

1:27:44

simply staggering. And if they continue to label everyone as

1:27:48

far right, then don't be surprised when people start to

1:27:52

behave like it. Adam Curry: I think we should give this guy the 3am slot on

1:27:56

our cable channel can be great. Yes, that's, well, it's RAM so

1:28:01

it'd be ADM. ADM, in the UK as part of the UK drive time. So

1:28:08

here's GB news, which is supposed to be the conservative,

1:28:11

you know, like the Fox News version, soft Fox News in the

1:28:16

UK. Here's their morning show. These two ditzes are pretty

1:28:20

funny. Unknown: That has been another night of serious violence on the

1:28:23

streets as protesters have attacked a police office set a

1:28:27

car on fire, and they've surrounded a mosque in

1:28:30

Sunderland. The demonstration which was in Sunderland, as you say it was

1:28:34

one of more than a dozen that had been planned by someone

1:28:38

across the country, or the Prime Minister has warned protesters they would face the

1:28:42

full force of the law do use of course try to crack down on the

1:28:45

violence. And of course this violence seems to be happening ironically and

1:28:50

dreadfully after those three little girls were murdered

1:28:53

during the massive stabbing in Southport. How

1:28:56

Adam Curry: is this ironic? Post ironic people are mad about

1:28:59

this. I don't understand the eye the irony of it

1:29:02

John C Dvorak: back again, maybe I can catch it. Unknown: As well and protesters they would face the full force

1:29:08

of the law to use of course trying to crack down on the

1:29:11

violence. And of course this violence seems to be happening ironically

1:29:16

and dreadfully after those three little girls were murdered

1:29:19

during the mass stabbing in South boy.

1:29:22

Adam Curry: So they're disconnecting the to what

1:29:25

John C Dvorak: they Yeah, they're making it ironic because

1:29:27

it was violence that killed three little girls and they're

1:29:29

exhibiting violence. Yeah, Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, she How ironic is that? I wonder? How

1:29:35

could that be? GB

1:29:37

Unknown: news do you think it is? It is very difficult to

1:29:42

think about how we manage all this and the fact we sort of say

1:29:46

it's in the wake of what's happened in Sunderland. It's got

1:29:48

nothing to do with SASS forte has clearly whoever is orchestra,

1:29:54

Adam Curry: there's literally saying it has nothing to do with

1:29:56

it. Unknown: It makes no sense. sense yeah,

1:30:00

to think about how we manage all this and the fact we sort of say

1:30:04

it's in the wake of what's happened in Sunderland. It's got

1:30:07

nothing to do now, Adam Curry: which has everything to do with Sunderland. Alright,

1:30:12

so maybe maybe you know they're they're making a misconnection

1:30:17

but this is not the first thing that has happened to young girls

1:30:21

or or people in general in the UK there is just like Sweden we

1:30:25

don't hear about it anymore. But there's a lot of illegal

1:30:29

immigrant crime taking place. So you can't disconnect this GB

1:30:33

news as Unknown: far as clearly whoever is orchestrating these events

1:30:38

Adam Curry: in Russia, maybe Russia is doing it.

1:30:41

John C Dvorak: What is she she's orchestrated, it's

1:30:43

Adam Curry: orchestrate whoever is doing this Egypt,

1:30:46

Unknown: Egypt. It's got nothing to do now. With Soundsport has clearly whoever is orchestrating

1:30:52

Adam Curry: it. Yes, it absolutely right. Looney MC

1:30:57

tuning the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes

1:31:00

and ears. It was their final and most essential command. Exactly.

1:31:04

Don't believe your eyes and ears, people. Oh, clearly

1:31:08

Unknown: whoever is orchestrating these events is

1:31:10

using Southport as some sort of a trigger skews. And it may be

1:31:14

an excuse. Yeah, but for what you ask what good. I mean, I've

1:31:18

heard many commentators say what what do they think they're

1:31:21

achieving? And I think the answer is that they don't think

1:31:24

at all. They're just looking for an excuse to cause trouble.

1:31:29

Well, I think some some are, but there is, I think, Mark White

1:31:33

homeland security, security, as this has put it very well over

1:31:35

the last couple of days, when he's talks about the fact that

1:31:39

there is the great parts of the British community who feel

1:31:43

unheard, underrepresented, ignored by the politics, but not

1:31:51

ignored by the police. When you compare it to this idea of two

1:31:55

tier policing, where if you've got a pro Palestine March and

1:31:59

awful things chanted, nothing seems to happen. But you should

1:32:03

have a lot of white people together and the police move in

1:32:06

the right gear. Yeah, Adam Curry: there's a lot of this a lot of these because I'm

1:32:09

watching the crowds. I'm watching people interview people

1:32:12

in the crowds. There's a lot of this two tier policing two

1:32:15

tiered justice system. Hey, welcome to the party. UK.

1:32:19

Welcome to what we've been subjected to. We just don't use

1:32:23

machetes. So of course yeah, yet. Of course. This is as

1:32:31

fodder for all kinds of cool stuff we can do when when the

1:32:33

population kicks up like this in Liverpool,

1:32:36

Unknown: Bristol hole or Belfast, anti immigration

1:32:40

protests have swept across several British cities in what's

1:32:43

become the most widespread rioting in the country for over

1:32:46

a decade. In Nottingham to far right demonstrate

1:32:50

Adam Curry: what happened a decade ago. What right we were

1:32:54

around with the show what writing was there. John C Dvorak: That era when the students were protesting and

1:32:58

they developed at tea kettle approach? Remember that? Oh,

1:33:02

Adam Curry: yeah. Negatively Yes. Cabling cabling. Ah, good

1:33:06

one Unknown: tree for over a decade. In Nottingham tuned. Fairlight

1:33:10

demonstrators took to the streets on Saturday facing off

1:33:13

with anti racism groups. People

1:33:15

are fed up as being told you should be ashamed if you're

1:33:18

white and working class. Well, I'm proud white working class,

1:33:23

there is an attempt to exploit a very tragic situation. This is a sort

1:33:27

of nationwide protest we've seen come out of nowhere. And

1:33:31

Nottingham is a multiracial city and we want everyone to feel

1:33:34

comfortable in their own city centre. The widespread riots

1:33:37

follow a stabbing in Southport that killed three young girls

1:33:40

earlier this week. false information about the suspects

1:33:43

background quickly spread online, fueling anti Muslim and

1:33:46

anti immigration demonstrations. Even after police confirmed the

1:33:50

suspect was born in Britain. The violence has prompted hundreds

1:33:56

of mosques to step up security. It's a first test for newly

1:34:01

elected prime minister Kier Starmer. His government has

1:34:04

promised a firm response. criminal violence

1:34:07

and disorder has no place on Britain's streets. We've been

1:34:12

clear to the police that they have our full backing in taking

1:34:16

the strongest possible action against perpetrators, including

1:34:21

we're making sure that there are more prosecutors. There are

1:34:24

sufficient prison places and also that the courts stand

1:34:28

ready in Sunderland where violence has a peak on Friday

1:34:31

for officers had to be hospitalized and 10 writers were

1:34:35

arrested further demonstrations are planned for Sunday. Yes,

1:34:39

Adam Curry: sound familiar? Oh yes, there were cops herded the

1:34:43

January 6 riots. Yeah, some very familiar script. This, of course

1:34:47

is not what Kier Stormer wanted, as Starmer wanted as his first

1:34:54

first issue to deal with as the new prime minister. So there is

1:34:57

a political aspect to this. So we had to come out. And he had

1:35:00

to talk to had some kind of meeting like some some homeland

1:35:04

security meeting. And you have to take into account at the UK.

1:35:08

If you post something on social media that hurts someone else's

1:35:11

feelings, you will get a visit from the police. And you can get

1:35:15

arrested for just saying, hey, you know, you you tranny is not

1:35:21

a nice thing to do. But no, it's like, but in America, at least

1:35:24

you can say it. If you want, you can go you do your Macedon vibe

1:35:29

you can do you can do that. But in the UK, you know, you get

1:35:33

arrested. So they have to we gotta take measures.

1:35:37

Unknown: This was a meeting to pull together our response

1:35:41

response both to the immediate challenge, which is clearly

1:35:44

driven by far right hatred, by nearly all violent disorder that

1:35:49

flares up whatever the apparent causal motivation, we make no

1:35:54

distinction. Crime is crime. And so to that end, I can announce

1:36:01

today that following this meeting, we will establish a

1:36:04

national capability across police forces to tackle violent

1:36:08

disorder. These thugs are mobile, they move from community

1:36:14

to community. And we must have a policing response that can do

1:36:18

the same. Why the deployment? Sorry?

1:36:23

John C Dvorak: It says a national police force.

1:36:26

Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, they can do the same mobile

1:36:29

John C Dvorak: forever. Left has been wanting to create a

1:36:32

national mean, they tried to make the FBI into it. But now

1:36:36

Adam Curry: they had a meeting. So what's happening, and

1:36:38

Unknown: we must have a policing response that can do the same

1:36:42

shared intelligence, why the deployment of facial recognition

1:36:46

technology and preventive action, criminal behavior orders

1:36:51

to restrict their movements John C Dvorak: bring crime?

1:36:54

Adam Curry: Behavioral What do you say was the term used here?

1:36:59

Unknown: facial recognition technology, and preventative

1:37:03

action, criminal behavior orders to restrict their movements for

1:37:07

John C Dvorak: criminal behavior order. Yes, Adam Curry: with preventative action. So you look you're kind

1:37:12

of you're posting some criminal things there online, we're going

1:37:16

to have to restrict your movement son, before

1:37:19

Unknown: they could even board a train. Adam Curry: Social score, yeah, China, China,

1:37:27

Unknown: before they could even board a train in just the same

1:37:30

way that we do with football hooligans. But let me also say

1:37:35

two large social media companies and those who run them, Elon

1:37:39

violent disorder, clearly whipped up online. That is also

1:37:44

a crime. It's happening on your premises. And the law must be

1:37:49

upheld everywhere. That is the single most important duty of

1:37:54

government service rests on security. And we will take all

1:37:59

necessary action to keep our streets

1:38:02

Adam Curry: safe. Whenever there wasn't what do you say was the most important action of government violent disorder

1:38:07

Unknown: clearly whipped up online. That is also a crime.

1:38:11

It's happening on your premises. And the law must be upheld

1:38:16

everywhere. That is the single most important duty of

1:38:20

government is Adam Curry: that that law must be upheld everywhere. That's the

1:38:23

most single important duty of government. So shut down social

1:38:28

media because that's a problem. And there's an advisor to

1:38:31

Starmer. And he tries to walk it back a little bit, but he's very

1:38:37

clear what he's saying here. Now, Unknown: I believe Lord warnie is with us now. Lovely to see

1:38:41

you this morning. It's been a very good week, particularly on

1:38:45

your patch and issues that you're interested in, John,

1:38:48

because, I mean, we've been seeing Britain go up in flames.

1:38:52

You've said something interesting in a previous interview, and I just want to question you on it. You sort of

1:38:56

suggested that we might want to reintroduce COVID measures to

1:39:01

deal with that. Does that what you mean, have you been mis

1:39:03

misconstrued slightly? Explain what you mean?

1:39:06

No, no, I'm glad you've asked me about this Camilla. No, not at all. The

1:39:12

point I was making is that that at points of national emergency,

1:39:17

the British public such as, as we haven't covered, the British

1:39:21

public have shown that they are prepared to accept different and

1:39:25

unusual approaches. And I think that in that context, if if

1:39:31

greater powers are needed for the police to be able to crack

1:39:35

down on the troublemakers who are inciting these and inflaming

1:39:41

these riots, I think there would be broad support for that. I

1:39:46

think some of the people who never wanted locked down in the

1:39:49

first place have been sued either deliberately or

1:39:55

unintentionally what I was saying so thanks for giving me

1:39:57

the chance to make that clear. Adam Curry: Yeah. Don't think you're talking about people

1:40:01

wearing a mask bro. Obviously locked down slug people in their

1:40:05

homes, the British people they are. They are willing to take

1:40:11

these extreme measures. They're willing. They're willing to take

1:40:13

it. Well, we shall see. We shall see how the brothers do up there

1:40:19

up north. I don't think so. I think they've had it. I do

1:40:25

predict that we'll see some immigrant hotel gets set on fire

1:40:29

in the UK. It's going to be bad.

1:40:32

Unknown: Yeah, probably. Yeah. Adam Curry: And on that happy note, that's fair, a great way

1:40:38

to go. Like to thank you for your courage in the morning tea

1:40:42

with the man who put the seat and cackling Kamala say hello to

1:40:44

my friend on the other end the one and only Mr. John

1:40:52

John C Dvorak: revenir says the world the names and nights out

1:40:54

there in Adam Curry: the morning to our trolls and the troll room. Let

1:40:58

me count you first of all we're a little late today and let me

1:41:05

see the previous trolls were only about 100. Under the last

1:41:09

lesson they showed 2402 It definitely is picked up. Picked

1:41:15

up I like it. And the trolls are active and they're good. They're

1:41:17

doing good things good work trolls are good trolls and pat

1:41:20

you on the head. When we bend down to patch on that they're

1:41:22

very tiny these trolls and they are in the troll room troll

1:41:25

room.io is where you can join them. If you haven't trouble

1:41:29

signing in, you have to register. Some people have

1:41:31

emailed me about that there's there are detailed instructions,

1:41:35

you just have to follow the links to get to get to it.

1:41:39

trolled on.io is great because you can be in a troll room on

1:41:42

the same page along with the live stream. And as usual, these

1:41:45

live streams are also available for you in the modern podcast

1:41:49

apps, you can find one at podcast apps.com. And you'll be

1:41:53

alerted when these when these shows go live. It's not in your

1:41:56

legacy, not only not in your grandpa's podcast app only in

1:42:00

the new ones. And when we publish a show, besides all the

1:42:03

extra features it has, you'll also be notified within 90

1:42:07

seconds. John C Dvorak: You know I? I don't normally do it. But I've

1:42:11

gone into the troll room. And I don't remember having to

1:42:15

register or anything you go in as a guest and you're sitting

1:42:18

you Adam Curry: can't post I think you can only post if you

1:42:20

register otherwise you just then you're you're lower than a

1:42:24

troll. And I'm sure you didn't post that you post something

1:42:29

John C Dvorak: only to post in there for. Adam Curry: Exactly. So I think you can you can be a troll and

1:42:35

be in there but you can't troll so you're actually sub troll.

1:42:38

John C Dvorak: You're a non troll. Yeah, Adam Curry: you're lower than troll. I mean, that's bad lower

1:42:42

than troll. As you can understand just listening to

1:42:47

even GB news who have a commercial model, they have

1:42:51

commercials. There's no way we could live by a commercial

1:42:55

system because the stuff that we're talking about No, we're we

1:42:59

we bring you therapy for your conspiracy theories. And we try

1:43:04

to help you understand what's going on your world which means

1:43:07

you know, sometimes we got to talk stuff that just won't pass

1:43:10

on. won't pass and Garm regulations if you know what

1:43:14

Garmin is look it up jrM No way. So we decided early on almost 17

1:43:18

years ago. Let's Garm Garm is the rating agency. Oh that you

1:43:23

haven't heard of Garm? No. Oh Garm is amazing. Garm stands for

1:43:30

Let me see. It's the it well, they are the World Federation of

1:43:36

Advertisers Garm stands for Global Alliance for responsible

1:43:41

media. You see? So Garm is a cross industry initiative

1:43:49

established in 2019 by the World Federation of Advertisers How

1:43:54

can you not be a member to help the industry address the

1:43:57

challenge of illegal or harmful content on digital media

1:44:01

platforms and its monetization via advertising? This was set up

1:44:08

after the church Christ shooting when the killer live streams

1:44:13

attack that was their that was their trigger. John C Dvorak: X Christ Church

1:44:18

Adam Curry: ya know in in New Zealand,

1:44:21

John C Dvorak: yeah, Christ you're you said Church Christ.

1:44:23

Did Adam Curry: I say that I met Christ Church. I say Church

1:44:26

Christ. That's weird. He did Christ your mom. I'm dyslexic. X

1:44:32

is now a member of Garm. Because, you know, the

1:44:34

advertisers they don't they're so incestuous. The advertisers

1:44:40

don't really want any risk is certainly not the agencies that

1:44:45

by the media. So now so you know the agency Well yes, we follow

1:44:50

the Garm guidelines so your content will always be safe. It

1:44:54

won't show up next to a bunch of horrible podcasters or anything

1:44:58

want to hear their strategic partner are some Garm? Yeah, I'd

1:45:01

John C Dvorak: like to hear this. This is all news. I don't

1:45:03

know how they miss this. I understand that I'm a podcaster.

1:45:07

I take I know this. Adam Curry: I'm sure we've played something about Garm. I'm

1:45:11

sure we have. Well, maybe not. Maybe not. It's, well, it's the

1:45:17

big agencies, obviously. Then we'll see our leadership on

1:45:21

leadership. I think it's okay. We handlers

1:45:24

John C Dvorak: handler on there. Adam Curry: No, we have the World Federation of Advertisers,

1:45:32

treasurer and CEO. We have the actual CEO of the World

1:45:36

Federation of Advertisers. We have the president of MasterCard

1:45:43

is in here. We have the Chief Marketing consumer and Marketing

1:45:49

Officer of international foods for PepsiCo. And these are

1:45:54

pretty big advertisers. Yeah, we have the Global Chief Marketing

1:45:59

Officer of Nestle. We have the chief communications

1:46:02

Institutional Relations Officer Bank of America.

1:46:06

John C Dvorak: So far, all I'm hearing is globalists. Well,

1:46:08

Adam Curry: yes, that is correct. Global category leader

1:46:12

marketing and services IBM Wreckit. Ralph, another huge

1:46:18

advertiser at Unilever. Diageo, there's your drink guy, the Mars

1:46:23

Corporation, L'Oreal, Procter and Gamble Danone for your, for

1:46:29

your dairy products. Do you see why you're not gonna get any

1:46:33

advertising? These are the advertisers. So they're all in

1:46:39

on this. And boy, they must have some great cocktail parties, you

1:46:42

imagine? Oh, John C Dvorak: caviar, piles of piles of caviar. And those

1:46:48

Norden rip deals where you got a big bowl of ice and a bunch of

1:46:51

shrimp. Adam Curry: Yeah. How about a chocolate fountain? One of

1:46:54

those? John C Dvorak: Yes, that would be the Yeah, you have to have

1:46:58

that for sure. A Adam Curry: chocolate fountain. Beautiful. So instead of that we

1:47:03

decided to go with a value from well, John C Dvorak: we don't get to go to these parties. We don't

1:47:06

know. I haven't seen a shrimp cascade with a big button giant

1:47:10

thing ice and all the shrimp. I'd say for 10 years. Oh, ever

1:47:14

since I started doing this show, actually. But it's almost 20

1:47:17

years. Adam Curry: Yeah, we didn't even we didn't even have nothing.

1:47:22

You're welcome. Enjoy. Yeah, so we decided to go with value for

1:47:27

value which is it's really simple. We put the show out we

1:47:30

put the show all our shows out from day one. Copy it we at

1:47:35

John C Dvorak: least we live as honest men. We do.

1:47:40

Adam Curry: We do. We live an honest life. And in which means

1:47:45

that we can dedicate ourselves but with the value for value

1:47:47

model. I mean, we just dedicate we don't have to do meetings

1:47:49

advertisement. Although it'd be nice to see the one of those

1:47:52

shrimp deals. We don't have to go to that meeting. Oh, yeah.

1:47:55

No, we'll we won't be using the any terms. You don't like Mr.

1:47:59

Mossad? Give us a list? Yeah, yeah, there's a list. And

1:48:02

believe me, there's multiple lists. So instead, we put the

1:48:05

shows out, make them available. You know, I saw that Patreon.

1:48:11

Now, I don't know how accurate these numbers are. But I was

1:48:14

looking at this. Patreon, who by the way, also deep platform

1:48:17

people which is why we don't use a Patreon model. You can you can

1:48:21

say something on a whole different platform. I go on the

1:48:23

Joe Rogan show and say something that Patreon doesn't like and

1:48:27

then they've got no more No more. No more sponsored, no more

1:48:32

donations for you. John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's unbelievable that anyone would

1:48:36

go for that well, Adam Curry: supposedly in 2023 40,000 what they call

1:48:42

podcasters I don't know exactly what they would they consider a

1:48:46

podcaster to be the they paid out $350 million dollars. Wow,

1:48:55

that's a lot of money. But you and I don't want to do Patreon

1:48:59

because a people can just get it you have to have a level you

1:49:03

have to subscribe. John C Dvorak: Oh, it's too limiting. We're broadcast

1:49:07

doesn't if you know what you're doing. Patreon wouldn't do

1:49:11

better than we can do ourselves because both of us have enough

1:49:15

skill and experience that you can just duplicate what they do

1:49:18

and do it better. Because you don't have you're not competing

1:49:22

with anybody and you're not on their limited system which only

1:49:26

allows this this and that it doesn't allow like the kinds of

1:49:29

subscriptions knighthoods executive producer ships all the

1:49:33

things that we offer are far above and beyond what patron

1:49:37

could even come close to accomplishing and then we're not

1:49:41

limited by their their rules. Yes. Which we don't we are not

1:49:45

rule followers. We Adam Curry: are definitely not rule followers and I don't think

1:49:48

our trolls are Ruffalo was either. John C Dvorak: Well, that's for sure. But the point is, is that

1:49:53

it's a crappy system for anyone who thinks for themselves.

1:49:57

Exactly. I'm really sorry. Fried and then that was that was a

1:50:01

really go along with the program on Patreon or the Oh, we got

1:50:04

special content. If you join the Patreon and premium premium, you

1:50:09

get to see the show ahead of time you get to see something I

1:50:12

wouldn't give there anybody else because I'm just giving it to

1:50:15

you. This is bullcrap. So

1:50:18

Adam Curry: instead, we just put the show out there and we say,

1:50:20

Hey, did you get any value from this and the back to us, you can

1:50:23

do it in many ways time, talent, treasure, we love our producers

1:50:26

who give us boots on the ground that is very valuable. We love

1:50:29

people who run websites, set up websites do all kinds of things

1:50:33

out there for us people organize meetups. We also need treasure,

1:50:37

time, talent, treasure, we need that as well. And people who

1:50:41

can't participate in in any other way. Even people who do I

1:50:44

would say some of our biggest and most frequent supporters,

1:50:47

let's put it that way are people who already do other things. Now

1:50:51

they understand the trifecta is not if an ad or it's you know,

1:50:57

whatever you can do is any end. It's an is whatever you can do.

1:51:02

So capitalist agenda is obviously his name is right in

1:51:09

the name. He's a Dutch master. And he is one of the artists who

1:51:13

uploads artwork to no agenda art generator.com Another fine piece

1:51:18

of machinery that Sir Paul couture put and he's a Sir, why

1:51:22

is he sir because he's a knight because he supported us with

1:51:25

treasure. But he also supports us with his time and his time

1:51:27

upgrades. So we've been through 15 years of the server with this

1:51:31

guy. We love him for it. And capital agenda capitalist agenda

1:51:36

took advantage of that system and upload what we thought was

1:51:40

just a dynamite piece of artwork, which we value very

1:51:43

much because art, especially when put out online, it attracts

1:51:47

people. It says something about the show you look at like, Oh

1:51:51

man, what are these guys doing now? And when it comes to spoof

1:51:57

package shots, and the no agenda artists are the best. So episode

1:52:01

1682. We titled that nativism just because the word either

1:52:05

wasn't heard of before. And we liked it was good. I've heard

1:52:08

John C Dvorak: of it. But I didn't know the definition of the top my head so it doesn't count and

1:52:13

Adam Curry: capitalist agenda put together Camelus crackers,

1:52:17

not not an international product necessarily because animal

1:52:21

crackers is a very US centric product. But it was the exact

1:52:27

the exact look and feel of the animal crackers box. Except that

1:52:32

had cameras cracker boys behind bars, which made it even funnier

1:52:35

white dudes for Camela yeah, by the way, the the impetus for

1:52:39

that because I said they should have called it crackers for

1:52:43

Kamala, that was a troll room suggestion. So you know, this is

1:52:46

all on you guys, you you really put this together and I love it

1:52:51

when it comes together like that. And and just looking at

1:52:54

the details of this art. It's so good, including, of course net

1:52:58

weight, 33 ounces, and instead of Nabisco up in the corner, it

1:53:01

says Gitmo. I mean, it could not get any better. So we I mean, we

1:53:05

were unanimous in this decision, I think right off the bat.

1:53:11

John C Dvorak: Boy, yeah, you actually had come back from the bathroom. Yeah, I typically need to pee and you asked me I don't

1:53:16

know you sometimes you do this and what's good. And I said

1:53:19

there's only one and you took the same look at it. I did you

1:53:23

get oh, yeah, we did. There was no dispute. We actually, were

1:53:27

remiss in discussing the other art. I can't say that we can

1:53:33

have criticism of the other art that there was good art there. I

1:53:36

mean, I think there's always something that could have been selected. Yeah, but it was that quick. It was it was like

1:53:41

instant it was to pick hence Adam Curry: the pick. Yes. Just looking through it. There's no

1:53:48

There's as obvious why it wasn't instant pick. It was this wasn't

1:53:51

that Camela with an afro No. Are you an American? Actually comics

1:53:59

a blogger had a weird AI generated thing, which was kind

1:54:03

of funny. I like Darren O'Neal's. weird weird weird

1:54:06

weird that was alright. But yeah, I was a more Olympic

1:54:12

stuff. Olympic cock rings. Okay, no. No. So obvious. It was just

1:54:20

dynamite. I think I think all the artists in you can see that

1:54:24

after that got uploaded, everyone gave up. Like, oh,

1:54:28

okay, now that's it. John C Dvorak: We're gonna use that does happen once in a

1:54:31

while, because the artists will go and check out before they

1:54:34

submit or before they even start designing. They'll look, I've

1:54:38

seen this happen before where you would normally get about 20

1:54:41

pieces in and maybe sometimes 30. And then sometimes when

1:54:45

Zinger goes in there, that's just so good. You ended with 10

1:54:50

pieces. Adam Curry: Yeah, by the way, it was war. Plautus I think who

1:54:53

came up with crackers for Camela credit where credit is due.

1:54:58

That's how it works. Your producers Even trolls can be

1:55:01

producers that would like to thank the executive and

1:55:04

Associate Executive producers of episode 1683 This is like

1:55:09

Hollywood this is another thing you don't get on. Try and take

1:55:12

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1:55:17

you can't do it. But when you have an executive or Associate

1:55:21

Executive Producer title from the no agenda show you can now

1:55:25

we don't need everybody to do this. We would prefer that

1:55:28

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1:55:32

something there's a regular basis that is any amount that

1:55:34

you want all at all amounts or whatever you want, basically,

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and we'd like to numerology that pops up from time to time. But

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Producer anyone $200 and above 300 and above and executive

1:55:48

producer and we will read your note and we kick it off right

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off the bat with John Jones. I'm sorry, was Sir eternus clavey

1:55:55

Creevy Clevy quack quack quack quack quack heavy? How do I say

1:56:02

it? John C Dvorak: I don't know. Well, we Adam Curry: became a night on the last show.

1:56:06

John C Dvorak: I like is struggling yes sir Adam Curry: eaters. Can we even you haven't told me what it

1:56:10

meant. You tied probably did you deconstructed the Latin? Sir

1:56:15

Turner's Kuya V from Santa Fe, New Mexico comes in with $600

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top executive producer no note. This is what's crazy no note

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please send us your notes or eternus and the meantime a

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double up karma for you. Unknown: You've got karma

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John C Dvorak: followed up with another no note guy, John Jones

1:56:38

in Georgetown, Texas. Wow, it's 333 50 and that came that's a

1:56:45

stripe donation. I have no idea what the what he has to say. So

1:56:50

we'll expect a note from him maybe? Soon someday or not until

1:56:55

Adam Curry: then double up karma. Unknown: You've got karma.

1:57:02

Adam Curry: And then we move to by the way John C Dvorak: I should mention people don't have to send in

1:57:06

notes. Adam Curry: No, it's not necessary. But it's nice if you

1:57:09

just say no, no, we're n j and k or less J and J K whatever. Sir

1:57:18

Scotland the Brave ourdoor Aberdeen were able to Robert

1:57:23

Dewar Fife, Great Britain is on fire over there. 333 dot 33 All

1:57:28

right. All right then gentleman from Scotland. Forgive me pod

1:57:31

fathers for I've been busy and have not supported the best

1:57:34

podcast in the universe for a year. Please do you do? You

1:57:38

spend deep deuced don't really need it. But if you feel like

1:57:43

you need it, I'm happy to do it. I have found my exit strategy.

1:57:46

And so I am retiring from the parish ministry in the Kirk. I

1:57:51

would rather say I'm re firing than retiring because I am off

1:57:55

for bigger fish. Turning my energy from parish ministry to

1:57:58

national ministry in this my land of Scotland. They speak for

1:58:03

many when I say how no agenda has not only helped me laugh in

1:58:06

hard times, like when ended up in hospital from the clogs seen

1:58:11

the clog seen AstraZeneca the health karma worked, he says but

1:58:15

also your deconstruction of the news has helped me make sense of

1:58:18

the times we are in making us all better in our roles, in my

1:58:22

case, the shepherd of the flock. So thank you, John and Adam for

1:58:26

your shepherding of the Gitmo nation. We couldn't do it

1:58:29

without you please Could I have some retirement karma? We thank

1:58:32

God for the best podcast in the universe. Sure, Scotland the

1:58:35

Brave. He says I'm off. I'm going fishing for salmon. You

1:58:39

bet. Thank you Good sir. Unknown: You've got karma.

1:58:43

Adam Curry: Good. Send us send us some salmon. We'd like

1:58:45

salmon. Send us one of those shrimp. Dill John C Dvorak: says that's a nice fatty salmon who that area.

1:58:52

Adam Curry: Salmon is the best I think Scott has smoked Scottish

1:58:54

salmon is the best in the world. John C Dvorak: Would you Which brings me to the smoked salmon

1:59:00

you get from two cific Northwest races a story which is not a

1:59:04

story okay. Well it might be no no no no, so this people love

1:59:17

the salmon from Pacific Northwest but it's because of

1:59:20

the Pacific Northwest version of the wood that they use to smoke

1:59:25

it. They use Alder I bag we have a groin as a weed is considered

1:59:30

a weed but it's a big, thick weedy it's like four inches in

1:59:33

diameter or bigger. And it's in that order which is different

1:59:36

than the one we have down here. is so delicious. It's one of the

1:59:41

great woods of the world. Adam Curry: I didn't know it was the wood. Well this the Scottish

1:59:46

salmon is just the salmon. John C Dvorak: No, it's it's not as smoky with the same flavor of

1:59:52

wood. So just saying just saying I'm older wood if you if you

1:59:57

liked the barbecue, Adam Curry: I'd like my son I sent salmon with one of those

2:00:01

shrimp deals. That's the best. John C Dvorak: Quirky in Finland. Oh that's nice ITM sir

2:00:09

Corky here I'd like to be an executive producer of the Sunday

2:00:12

show you are 333 33 Because the number the year 16 ad three is

2:00:20

significant to me Unknown: interesting I'd like

2:00:25

John C Dvorak: to hear the classic jingle resist we much

2:00:28

along with some potent business karma please thank you.

2:00:32

Adam Curry: I'm not wondering he wants to resist for much jingle

2:00:35

Hold on there is a there is a jingle that actually resist we

2:00:41

much I just had the regular oh yeah here this is a songless

2:00:45

that's not it hmm

2:00:51

John C Dvorak: I don't think he I think maybe it was to resist

2:00:53

we much we much we much whatever he goes on just a regular

2:00:57

straight up resist. We might Adam Curry: want to straight up okay. But

2:01:01

Unknown: resist we much. We must and we will much about

2:01:08

John C Dvorak: that. Be committed jobs

2:01:10

Unknown: jobs, jobs jobs. Job. Johnny's got karma.

2:01:16

John C Dvorak: That guy makes more money than anybody. And

2:01:20

that's the way he talks Adam Curry: don't be racist. We much

2:01:26

John C Dvorak: okay, sir. Even Chuck Kony Well, yes. I'm sure

2:01:30

it's your Adam Curry: turn. Yeah, now I'd say this is Stefan. Talk me. I'm

2:01:36

thinking it's Stephen. Stephen St. E F A N Stephen not Stephen.

2:01:41

John C Dvorak: J will be Stefan or Stefan. Well, to his mom

2:01:45

Adam Curry: he Stefan but I think at work he Stephen

2:01:48

Stephen. Tuck me Littleton Colorado. 333 truing up my V for

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V tab. Thank you for what you do. And J N K. Bam. Thank you.

2:02:01

John C Dvorak: Jesse born in Columbus, Minnesota nuts comes

2:02:04

in as our first Associate Executive Producer to 30 to 50.

2:02:08

Shout out to Zach preusse who was a douchebag Keep up the

2:02:15

great work for more years. Adam Curry: Jennifer Gourley is in Beachwood, Ohio. 250

2:02:20

Associate Executive Producers switcheroo. This is a donation

2:02:24

on behalf of my husband, Bob Gourley. Bob. Mr. Bob Gordy. Mr.

2:02:28

Bob Gooding. Alright, I may make that switcheroo right now. So we

2:02:31

don't mess that up later. I plan to make a donation before his

2:02:35

birthday on July 3, but about a week before his birthday, he was

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laid off from his job of 13 years. The hair and hookers

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index. Fortunately, he's going back to work in about a week. I

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was hoping you could provide him with some job karma. Thanks for

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what you do. Well, of course we can do that. And then we go

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oops, oops. Jobs, karma

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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.

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John C Dvorak: Honored with Dame Toni house. She's in Fort Worth,

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Texas. And this is a switcheroo for her husband. I think it's

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her husband, Brian. For his birthday. The tents turning 35

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And then she says see attached note which I will go to Dear

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John Anam is a switcheroo for my solace, a sign that her husband

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her son, sorry her son, your son Brian Health's birthday, he's

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turning 35 on August 10. Please deduce him.

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Unknown: You found deep deuced hit

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John C Dvorak: me in the mouth during COVID and I'm so glad he

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did. He is a great son and recently started BMX racing,

2:03:47

which is now an Olympic sport. Yes. And is winning many of

2:03:50

these races. I'm proud of him so hard. It's hard sport to win.

2:03:55

Yeah, he is hard worker at his job and at play is also very

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good dad and husband. He lives four hours away but calls me

2:04:02

just as often. Too often just to see how I'm doing. This donation

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is an installment toward his knighthood. I'm more than

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halfway there. Oh, jingles biscuit for my birthday and a

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good karma because it's his son Carter's favorite. Keep up the

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deconstruction Dame Tony Health's of the Northern cow

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town pickleball region they always give me a biscuit on my

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birthday. Unknown: You've got

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Adam Curry: they is that? Is that also a Marxist thing? She

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said. There are girl Camela biscuit on my birthday. That's

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her. That's Camela John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. It's Campbell. It probably is.

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She wants free biscuits free food for everyone.

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Adam Curry: And that's all you get. Let them eat cake. Yeah,

2:04:57

John C Dvorak: yeah, that's exactly right. You got both of it? Yeah. Free Eat and LAO and just biscuits.

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Adam Curry: Kurt Keefer is in Austin, Texas. $210.60 Big

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thanks to my Austin native free thinking brilliant wife Beth,

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for turning me on to no agenda the best podcast in the universe

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Austin. Love you guys and boobs, says Kurt. Yeah, that was the

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margarita talking. Thanks, brother. John C Dvorak: Steve Myers $210.60 The exact same amount no

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notes so he gets a double up karma.

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Unknown: You've got Adam Curry: karma and we go to Bentonville, Illinois to await O

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for Eli, the coffee guy and he says on his recent podcast, Joe

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Rogan said it as good as anybody. If there's a narrative

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you condemn, be sure somebody's making money off of that

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and they send in a note that says the following ITM ITM we

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meant to have a drawing for the producer credit this is from the

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uneasy writers meet up, but we're too busy this is I forget

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where this was. But we're too busy for this lady Varakin. So I

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think we Adam Curry: know I think it was Nashville, I think I think was

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Nashville. Yes Is Nashville and Nashville. Okay.

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John C Dvorak: We're too busy being awesome and forgot. So I

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credit the uneasy writers from the meetup of the same name,

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which you can check out on a very special episode 333 of bowl

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Adam Curry: Yeah, we have a meet up report actually from that

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from the uneasy riders is good. I'll do Robert karthi. Oh,

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there's our constitutional lawyer Robert, spring branch

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Texas $200. Flowing note. I'm going to take a look at it. It's

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my turn to read it. So what is Rob say? Oh, it's a it's an

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official. It's like an official memo. Is this this is memo from

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his law firm. Look John C Dvorak: at it in his kind of URL. There are some issues

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with the formatting. Adam Curry: Well, he has everything he does has to be

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done in Word Perfect. So yeah, that's legal. I am Adam and

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John. Today I bring up legal news to get mo nation I suspect

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that many of you producers owned small businesses always given

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also known as crap oh no CTA but if you own a business that was

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wants to know all about you and your private business holdings

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purportedly to deter and detect money laundering. Eli, Eli,

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listen up Eli the coffee guy. Don't be money laundering that

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coffee dough. And if you don't file your report before the

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deadline, you're subject to a fine of $500 per day, and

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possibly up to two years in prison. The desired reports

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check for $200 us very nice of you. And I respectfully request

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open up Adam curry karma to keep the Feds at a safe distance.

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Sincerely Rob cardi Rob dot lawyer random curry No thank

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you, Rob. Rob. Well, I John C Dvorak: was unfamiliar with this. Oh, really? Well, you

2:10:09

knew about it. I Adam Curry: did. Yeah. Because my pal Dave Jones works at an

2:10:13

accountancy firm. So yes. And we have an LLC. So he's like, Oh,

2:10:17

dude, we got to do this. Yes. So we have to do this. So we don't

2:10:21

go to jail. Unknown: Where's the forms?

2:10:27

Adam Curry: I don't know. John C Dvorak: Where do you get the forms? There's got to be a

2:10:30

form from irs.gov I'm

2:10:32

Adam Curry: sure. Well, you're sure you don't know. Now Rob dot

2:10:35

lawyer will put it on his website. John C Dvorak: I hope so.

2:10:38

Adam Curry: Yes. Well, I'm John C Dvorak: distressed.

2:10:42

Adam Curry: It's very distressful. Because they you know, no, I'm

2:10:44

John C Dvorak: distressed because I didn't know about it. Oh, so this is one of those things you didn't nobody tells

2:10:49

you anything. If it wasn't for Rob here. I wouldn't know why

2:10:53

never say no. Why? Well, Adam Curry: you know why is because you're too busy watching

2:10:57

for our YouTube videos, which you send to me like oh, this is

2:11:00

an interesting series. I'm not gonna watch a four hour YouTube

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video. No, not from you. Not from anybody you

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John C Dvorak: missed out. Yeah, sure. Linda IUPAC ins up she's

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Adam Curry: And our final Associate Executive producer is

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Mark bleh felt sounds very Dutch to me, but lives in Haddam,

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Connecticut. Even Saddam doesn't sound very Connecticut he

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John C Dvorak: and Marxism is like a Muslim enclave. And

2:11:52

Adam Curry: Marx ends as 200 and says thanks, Dan, we thank you

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as do we thank all of our executive and Associate

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Executive producers for episode 1683. Remember, we thank

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sustaining donations. We appreciate you very much those

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Associate Executive producers for 1683. Our formula

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Unknown: is this. We go out for yet people in the mouth.

2:12:42

John C Dvorak: You think the local news or somebody report to

2:12:45

us about this issue with the LLC requirement that you send a

2:12:50

document to the Treasury Department out of the blue

2:12:52

wells? Okay, Adam Curry: so that is why we are the best podcast in the

2:12:56

universe because we have producers who will gladly pay to

2:13:00

get this mentioned on the show. To Hell, what if it wasn't for

2:13:05

him? Well, we all be in jail together.

2:13:09

John C Dvorak: So unbelievable. They're not going to get everyone to feel they're obviously not going to be able

2:13:13

to do this. They're gonna use it to intimidate low dry cleaners

2:13:16

and literal Unknown: and podcasts, businesses.

2:13:19

John C Dvorak: And podcasts are podcasters there's probably a lot of podcasters that are LLCs Of course, and they probably

2:13:24

indeed go through Patreon and patrons are going to tell him

2:13:27

anything. No, Adam Curry: probably not. John C Dvorak: I just find it irksome that this sort of thing

2:13:33

just crops up out of the blue like this. This is your Biden

2:13:36

administration. Adam Curry: I'd like to drop down just the hair and hookers

2:13:40

report for a moment with some big tech news. As it looks like

2:13:47

we're getting closer and closer to the bubble popping that is

2:13:53

double the AI bubble. It's a bubble. It's a bubble and it's

2:13:56

not just me now Elliott Management wait Aren't those the

2:14:00

guys who Elliott Management in they're not they like an

2:14:05

activist? A bunch of guys? John C Dvorak: who've never heard of them.

2:14:08

Adam Curry: I thought Elliott Management got a board seat on

2:14:10

some company. I think so. Elliott Management said the

2:14:16

technology mega caps such as Nvidia are in a are in bubble

2:14:21

land. And that the hedge fund is sketchy said they're hedge fund

2:14:26

skeptical that these companies will continue to purchase Nvidia

2:14:30

chips and graphic processing units in such huge volumes.

2:14:34

Elliott said that many AI applications are not ready for

2:14:37

primetime and that many of the expected uses are quote, never

2:14:41

going to be cost efficient, never going to actually work.

2:14:44

Right, and that they will take up too much energy or will prove

2:14:48

to be untrustworthy. Unknown: Yeah,

2:14:53

Adam Curry: I think that's true. I'm on board with Elliot. I

2:14:56

think they're absolutely right. And well, there was Well, I got

2:15:00

a quick clip here, just the chip sector. It's been bad all round.

2:15:04

Unknown: We now know how many employees Intel plans to cut in

2:15:08

2025. Today the Hillsboro based company announced that they are

2:15:11

laying off 15% of their workforce as part of a $10

2:15:15

billion cost reduction strategy. That's more than 15,000 rolls

2:15:20

that could be on the chopping block next year. This comes as

2:15:23

the company reports a 1% decrease in their second quarter

2:15:27

revenue compared to last year. Intel currently employs about

2:15:30

120,000 people. It's one of the biggest employers in the state

2:15:35

of Oregon. Adam Curry: No, that's not so good.

2:15:39

John C Dvorak: Wait a minute, this the Santa Clara company

2:15:41

when did it become a Hillsborough company?

2:15:44

Adam Curry: I don't know when that's that's your your Oregon

2:15:47

news organization. I don't know. Logitech coming out with a new

2:15:53

mouse, John. John C Dvorak: You know, which reminds me so so I was using the

2:16:00

very shoddy I have to agree with our producers, the shoddy Ali

2:16:06

Express. Adam Curry: Yes, the Amazon killer. But

2:16:11

John C Dvorak: they did have they do have a mouse under that

2:16:14

I bought one of these things, the exact same product from

2:16:17

Amazon about five, six years ago. And it was $11 mouse which

2:16:22

is the one I'm using on this machine right now. Yeah. And the

2:16:26

ALI Express had the same exact mouse exactly the same. I bought

2:16:29

one for five bucks. In less you can beat these prices. Your new

2:16:34

Logitech mouse is out the window. This is a terrific

2:16:38

product. Adam Curry: Oh really? What model is it?

2:16:42

John C Dvorak: Say Yeah, I don't know. It's just some sort of a

2:16:45

screwy mouse. It's got it's got a built in battery. So you have

2:16:48

to use you can recharge it with the USB port just put batteries

2:16:51

in it like it does every it's a killer. It's a killer mouse.

2:16:55

It's just dynamite. Adam Curry: Well, this new Logitech mouse five bucks, which

2:16:59

is the signature AI edition. ships with a dedicated button to

2:17:05

launch a chat GPT powered app. And you have to pay a

2:17:10

subscription to your mouse. John C Dvorak: They should pay you for this mouse.

2:17:18

Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. Google had to pull their AI ad

2:17:25

which they had scheduled for the Olympics. And the reason why the

2:17:31

ad was titled dear Sydney and it showed a girl's dad prompting

2:17:36

the AI chatbot because that's all the AI does is chatbot and

2:17:41

embed and no agenda art. prompting the AI chatbot to help

2:17:47

write a letter to her favorite athlete, US hurdler and sprinter

2:17:50

Sydney. McLaughlin love Roan. And so people got very mad at

2:17:56

this. Because the payoff line was Gemini helped my daughter

2:18:02

write a letter telling Sidney how inspiring she is. Well,

2:18:07

people started sending letters of protest, saying hi don't want

2:18:12

some a I doing this work. I want my child to actually be inspired

2:18:18

and write to these athletes about how inspiring they are.

2:18:22

That shouldn't be Google's job. So they pulled the ad. People

2:18:27

are not happy. Good. I agree. I agree. Absolutely. And then the

2:18:36

absolute this is this is actually probably actually

2:18:39

probably who I listen to me. This is probably actually

2:18:43

actually one of the best AI products ever developed. It's

2:18:47

also the most horrible, but it only cost 2 million a couple

2:18:50

million bucks for this guy to put it together. It's not out

2:18:53

yet. And I'll give you the visual. It's a lanyard that you

2:18:58

put around your neck and has a little plastic like an amulet on

2:19:02

it and you talk to the amulet you press on it so it's like a

2:19:07

rubber almost you know it resembles

2:19:10

John C Dvorak: a little thing used to do float around with a

2:19:12

did you make your friends and maybe if you're near somebody

2:19:16

else had had one Gottschee a Tamagotchi and you had somebody

2:19:20

next to BBB BBB BBB somebody's next to you. Herbie that was the

2:19:24

Furby did that. Well, that noise was the Furby noise yes but this

2:19:28

other thing oh my Adam Curry: gosh, did the Tamagotchis interact with each

2:19:31

other? John C Dvorak: I first I remember if I've device I'm

2:19:35

thinking yes if you're in range of another Tamagotchi that some

2:19:40

buddy else was wearing you would now be friends.

2:19:42

Adam Curry: So it's it what this really resembles Have you ever

2:19:45

seen a gear lever in an aircraft? Yeah, of course and

2:19:50

has a round kind of rubber thing on it. Yeah, I've

2:19:53

John C Dvorak: been in a simulator. Which Adam Curry: which is which is intentional because then you

2:19:58

don't you know you grab that lever You know, immediately

2:20:00

that's my gear. That's That's why flaps is like a flat knob

2:20:05

that feels like a flap. So it looks like one of those rubber

2:20:08

wheels you read around your neck and then you press it. And it

2:20:11

doesn't end. So it listens to you, it doesn't respond to you,

2:20:14

it responds to you on your phone with a text message. Listen to

2:20:18

the report. Unknown: It's the video Silicon Valley is talking about the

2:20:25

Effexor crazy, a teaser for a wearable product called friend,

2:20:30

which promises to be just that if you consider AI to be your

2:20:34

friend, you kind of have this feeling of no judgment. And I

2:20:37

think that allows you to be a lot more authentic with it.

2:20:39

Obviously, the 21 year old who created friend and spent just

2:20:44

shy of $2 million for the website friend.com describes his

2:20:48

product as a good listener. Sorry, that messy. The most

2:20:52

similar relationship you can attribute it to might be a

2:20:55

relationship with God where it's this kind of omnipresent all

2:20:58

knowing entity that you have around you, that you can kind of

2:21:01

like talk to in a in a silent, you know, private confident way

2:21:05

with with no judgement. Not everyone is sold yet.

2:21:08

It sounds like it's designed by people that don't know how to

2:21:11

make friends. But Tech professor Ahmed banaba, who's tried many AI devices week

2:21:17

says this might hit the mark, it's in mind me with the case when you are we have a very

2:21:22

close friend and you feel comfortable saying, you know

2:21:25

some kind of a dumb thing to that friend without worrying

2:21:28

that they're gonna judge you. The company says the device will cost $99 when it's available, no

2:21:34

subscription necessary. And it'll essentially work like

2:21:37

this. Put the lanyard around the neck. It'll have a pendant at

2:21:41

the end of it. You push a button on the pendant, and it will give

2:21:44

you encouragement, advice or feedback on whatever it is

2:21:49

you've been talking about. Yes, it listens all the time. But the

2:21:53

company says it will not store any audio recordings. Schiffman

2:21:57

believes it's an example of how AI can help. You know, I think

2:22:02

having an AI friend that will say like oh, good luck on the

2:22:05

interview will increase your productivity far more than it

2:22:07

reminding you that it's in five minutes. In fact, after we

2:22:10

spoke, he sent me this text from his friend named Emily saying

2:22:15

that he nailed the interview John C Dvorak: his friends named Emily Hello.

2:22:23

Adam Curry: So I think there's so product conversations. Yeah,

2:22:26

go ahead. Well, John C Dvorak: I think it's a good idea, by the way. And I'll

2:22:29

tell you why. We had a conversation that dinner table

2:22:31

and JC had some stats about how different generational groups

2:22:36

have less and less friends to the Z group. The Zeds the zeros

2:22:41

wherever you want to call them. The Zoomers. Zoomers, they

2:22:43

pretty much have zero friends. They they have like, it's their

2:22:48

average number of friends outside. You know, besides

2:22:52

outside the family is one. Yes. Well, you go to the millennials,

2:22:57

it's like four or five and you go to the everything else is a

2:23:00

little higher, at least is that many, but it's not one.

2:23:04

Adam Curry: I think there's some some real exit strategy

2:23:06

opportunities for us here. First of all, I think it'd be great

2:23:09

just have an AI called God. You know that he said it was like

2:23:13

having God with you all the time. Okay, good. You can do

2:23:16

that. Or how about your real friend, which is Adam and John.

2:23:20

And we're gonna we're not gonna we're gonna be real friends.

2:23:23

Like, you look like crap. John C Dvorak: But looks big. Tuck your shirt in.

2:23:31

Adam Curry: Show up on time. Get off my lawn.

2:23:37

John C Dvorak: So I didn't nagging duo.

2:23:39

Adam Curry: Real real friends, real friends, friends. Real

2:23:43

Friends do who really care about you? It's like, no, the essay

2:23:47

sucks. Get off chat. Get off Twitter. Yeah, get up. Get out

2:23:53

of bed. Get out of bed. That's what you want. Da. I agree. I

2:24:00

think it's a good idea. It's so simple. And it's just another

2:24:04

chatbot that's the only thing AI is good at. Except for no agenda

2:24:08

art. No agenda, art chat bots, and maybe maybe some of those

2:24:13

ads I'm seeing run for Kamala Harris on the Olympics. That

2:24:16

doesn't sound like her. Sounds like they might have sampled her

2:24:20

and have a bot doing it. I don't know. It's just just my feeling.

2:24:24

John C Dvorak: I do like to samples. I like to do funny

2:24:27

voices in the humor you can create with them. Yeah. The

2:24:30

videos not as good as the desert voiced itself. Of

2:24:33

Adam Curry: course, this is vaporware. There's no product

2:24:35

yet. But we could do that. We could do a vaporware version of

2:24:41

it. Oh, John C Dvorak: this is the way to go. You're

2:24:44

Adam Curry: no agenda real friend amulet. We should just

2:24:47

call it an amulet John C Dvorak: the ambulance the ambulance. Hey,

2:24:52

Adam Curry: you go. I have yes please.

2:24:55

John C Dvorak: I wanted to try to get Venezuela out of the way

2:24:57

so these clips is different last show. Adam Curry: Yeah, me it, can we well, I let's talk about it when

2:25:02

you're done because I'm curious what your thoughts are on this.

2:25:08

John C Dvorak: Well, let's play I got both NTD and NPR. I would

2:25:11

like to play the two parter from NTD. Venezuela one and two

2:25:15

Venezuela Unknown: socialist President Nicolas Maduro ordered military

2:25:19

and police to patrol across the country starting Wednesday.

2:25:22

protests continue inside Venezuela as many claim the

2:25:25

incumbent government committed election fraud to stay in power.

2:25:29

A rights group says at least 16 people have been killed in the

2:25:32

protests so far. Venezuelan authorities say nearly 750

2:25:36

people have been arrested and Maduro now also wants opposition

2:25:40

leaders to be arrested blaming them for the protests against

2:25:43

his leadership. We have held back we will uncover and capture them all,

2:25:50

and we will be victorious once again victorious. The

2:25:54

opposition says its candidate at Mondo Gonzalez had more than

2:25:57

twice as many votes as Maduro based on 90% of vote tallies.

2:26:01

This would mean the end of 25 years of Socialist rule in

2:26:04

Venezuela. With these numbers, we will begin the reconstruction of

2:26:09

Venezuela hand in hand with all of you.

2:26:13

international support for the opposition is now mounting. Peru

2:26:16

says it recognizes Gonzalez as the actual president elect and

2:26:20

Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica and Uruguay say they don't recognize

2:26:25

the results of the election. And Florida Senator Rick Scott is

2:26:28

calling on Biden to do the same and recognize Gonzalez as the

2:26:31

actual president elect. Republican Senator John Hoeven

2:26:35

told NTD he's in favor of Senator Scott's demands. Senator

2:26:38

Scott's right. I mean, it's a sham elections ridiculous.

2:26:41

Maduro doesn't hold free and open elections. It's ludicrous

2:26:44

and everybody knows it, and we should speak out against it. The

2:26:48

White House on Wednesday was asked if it recognizes Gonzalez

2:26:51

as the actual president elect. We want to see the full tabulated data from the polling

2:26:55

places we want to see something that can be verifiable.

2:26:58

The State Department on Wednesday said it's patience for

2:27:01

Maduro is running out citing new Independent reports.

2:27:05

Venezuela's 20 2004 presidential election did not meet

2:27:09

international standards of electoral integrity and cannot

2:27:12

be considered democratic. Adam Curry: Wow, amazing. The amazing you know that you

2:27:16

Smartmatic machines. So it's quite interesting that in this

2:27:20

case, the Biden administration like is rigged. It's no good

2:27:26

scams, no good. That can't possibly be right. But

2:27:31

John C Dvorak: I find weird weird is the fact that he did

2:27:35

these elections thinking he could win. Well, he's smoking

2:27:39

his own dope has no Camela. This paper, part two,

2:27:45

Unknown: the Organization of American States or OAS held a

2:27:47

meeting today to address the results of the Venezuelan

2:27:50

election entities Washington correspondent Luis Martinez has

2:27:54

more on this story. The

2:27:56

governments of 11 countries in the region requested the OAS to

2:28:00

have a special meeting of the permanent council here in

2:28:03

Washington DC to discuss the electoral process in Venezuela.

2:28:06

The OAS is the multilateral regional body dedicated to human

2:28:10

rights, electoral oversight and economic and human development.

2:28:14

We want the Messala to publish the results with transparencies. We

2:28:20

want to encourage the protection of all the opposition figures,

2:28:25

we want the Venezuelan authorities to respect the

2:28:28

introduction of asylum. And also we will want to see if the

2:28:33

contrast is continuing some independence organizations to

2:28:39

make an auditing of the results of the winners for lung

2:28:42

elections. It's important to note that in 2019, the OAS, the United States

2:28:47

and 50 other countries in the world move to recognize the then

2:28:50

opposition leader Juan guaido as the legitimate president of

2:28:53

Venezuela until 2023, when the Venezuelan opposition does solve

2:28:58

the interim government. While the expectation

2:29:00

that we have is and Mondo Gonzalez should be recognized as

2:29:05

the president elected of Venezuela. This is something

2:29:08

that is not imposed, it was the will of the vast majority of

2:29:10

Venezuelans to the point that Mundell one Silas has achieved

2:29:16

at the biggest margin in a presidential election in the

2:29:19

history of Venezuela. Adam Curry: So, of course, your no agenda show has a boots on

2:29:25

the ground report. John C Dvorak: Remember guaido Yeah, Bronco Venezuela Edo.

2:29:30

Adam Curry: Yeah, I remember that guy. He looked like Obama.

2:29:34

Yeah, of course. Yeah. He John C Dvorak: said Obama clone. Jose

2:29:37

Adam Curry: Carlos Cueto, writes in says My dad is a Venezuelan

2:29:40

PhD in political science professor expert on political

2:29:43

campaigns and political commentator, and he sent me some

2:29:47

links which unusable for the show. The situation in Venezuela

2:29:50

is dire. The National Electoral electoral council has announced

2:29:53

Maduro 150 2% against 44 of the top opposition candidate Edmundo

2:29:58

Gonzalez, or Thea Machado is team was able to secure over 24

2:30:05

and a half 1000 Voting Machine receipts, each verified,

2:30:09

certified and signed by six different citizens, a president

2:30:13

a secretary, a member to witnesses and the operator of

2:30:15

the polling machine. These polling machine receipts were

2:30:18

scanned and uploaded to this website link attach. Machado

2:30:23

secured 81% of all polling machine receipts with the help

2:30:26

of many citizens and witnesses the receipt show Gonzalez or TIA

2:30:30

more than doubles Maduro and votes even if you give Maduro

2:30:33

all the remaining votes, he doesn't have enough to claim a

2:30:35

victory. And so Jose sent this in as any and I guess Bobby The

2:30:41

Op was kind of cagey about all this didn't really just say hey,

2:30:47

this is all be a scam. John C Dvorak: Or what he has to do with it.

2:30:55

Adam Curry: Bobby The Op has been tweeting about it.

2:30:58

John C Dvorak: Well, here's the last clip I have which is from NPR which is a slightly softer

2:31:04

Unknown: horse. Yes. One of the few international observers

2:31:07

allowed him to monitor Venezuela's contested

2:31:09

presidential elections says that contest was anything but fair

2:31:13

and free. Incumbent leader Nicolas Maduro was declared

2:31:16

winner of Sunday's presidential election in a race. The

2:31:18

opposition says it one appears Carrie Kahn reports

2:31:22

the Atlantic based Carter Center says the contest did not meet

2:31:25

international standards and cannot be considered democratic

2:31:29

invited to observe the electoral process by the government. The

2:31:32

election observers listed numerous violations committed by

2:31:36

Venezuela's electoral council, which is packed with Maduro

2:31:39

loyalists among them favored media coverage and harassment of

2:31:43

opposition candidates. The center blasted authorities for

2:31:46

its total lack of transparency. The council has refused to make

2:31:50

public voter tally sheets that according to Venezuelan law

2:31:53

should be publicized. Opponents of Maduro say they have the

2:31:57

tally sheets for more than 80% of precincts, and it shows

2:32:01

candidate at Moondog Gonzalez, overwhelmingly one

2:32:05

Adam Curry: I met two people from Venezuela at the citizens

2:32:09

defending freedom conference at that dinner and one is a

2:32:13

harpist. I think he may be a famous harpist, and they're

2:32:18

very, very nice people. So we are here. I'm doing their

2:32:21

accent. We are here because we want to warn everybody that this

2:32:26

does not happen to America what happened in Venezuela. Now

2:32:30

they're really they're going everywhere they all over this

2:32:32

his word going through Texas or talking to anybody playing the

2:32:35

harp letting everybody know you do not want this to happen in

2:32:39

America as we came to America. I feel good about that. This

2:32:45

Kamala is no good. Didn't say that but could have

2:32:50

John C Dvorak: she's the socialists do that.

2:32:55

Adam Curry: I think you should not travel. Certainly not to

2:32:58

Southern California. Surely you know why? No, I don't know why.

2:33:03

COVID on the rise baby from tourists. Oh

2:33:06

Unknown: was when so up so high six vaccinations every time they

2:33:10

come out with a new one. I always get it to locals.

2:33:13

I just think it's better to be safe than sorry people out in Hollywood on Friday afternoon say they're

2:33:17

being more cautious. I have a

2:33:20

master three right now just started carrying him again.

2:33:26

Three, Johnson says he started masking up again after seeing

2:33:29

elected officials contracting the virus. President Biden

2:33:32

announced he was dropping out of the 2024 bid for reelection.

2:33:36

Wow, self isolating and Delaware Mayor bass tested positive for

2:33:40

COVID 19. In late June, the start of some of the worst

2:33:43

numbers Los Angeles has seen in two years, the number of

2:33:46

reported COVID cases doubling in just the last four weeks

2:33:49

according to new data from the LA County Public Health. The

2:33:53

levels of COVID in wastewater has also nearly doubled since

2:33:56

last winter's P. The Department of Epidemiology at UCLA says

2:34:01

this number is more concerning because

2:34:04

it's really telling you on a population level. What are we

2:34:07

seeing are you not relying on people going in testing

2:34:10

reporting symptoms, while hospitalizations have also doubled COVID deaths remain

2:34:15

stable. Whitetail remind says people should get a refresher on

2:34:19

COVID symptoms you have symptoms, cough, cold, cold symptoms, congestion, runny

2:34:27

nose and avoid contact with elderly or women who are pregnant while

2:34:32

hand sanitizing is still a great way to prevent the virus.

2:34:37

Because yeah, everybody does something for mine

2:34:39

says masks are still the top favorite.

2:34:43

I think that the masks are the most effective way of reducing

2:34:47

spread of the virus. Now health officials also warn everybody that school is right

2:34:51

around the corner. So it's important now to stay healthy to

2:34:56

avoid any sort of bigger potential peak problem this fall

2:35:00

All right. Adam Curry: So Los Angeles still all in on the masking

2:35:04

everybody's mask, if you notice if you see any B roll of

2:35:09

Democrat operatives working anywhere, they're all masked up.

2:35:14

You look at the you know, Kamala for President people. They're

2:35:17

all masked up. Everyone's everyone's there. They're

2:35:20

showing us who they are again, it's John C Dvorak: Korea criminals.

2:35:24

Adam Curry: The criminal, the criminal, yeah, sort John C Dvorak: of mask. You wear a mask if you're a criminal.

2:35:28

It's so Adam Curry: sad. Five countries in Europe mercy which by the

2:35:34

way, John C Dvorak: they went on and on and on and on about a

2:35:37

doubling if it goes from one to two is doubling. Yes, no, it's

2:35:41

doubling if it goes from two to four, that's doubling. Is it

2:35:44

going from one to two or two to four? Is it going from 5000 to

2:35:48

10,000? They never say, Well, why would you This is such a

2:35:51

bogus report. This Adam Curry: is just to get you to wear a mask you silly man.

2:35:55

Maska kids choke up. Belgium, Germany, Greece, Latvia and

2:36:00

Portugal are going to test a new vaccination card in a variety of

2:36:04

formats, including printed cards, mailed copies and digital

2:36:07

versions for smart cards. Smartphones. Yes, beautiful. I

2:36:14

have a this is a boots on the ground report from our nurse

2:36:17

Jamie. It's not a happy one. So I want to say that we know that

2:36:22

many of our producers were forced to keep their jobs by

2:36:27

taking a vaccination. We think a lot of them luckily got j&j.

2:36:32

Well, luckily, who knows? But probably didn't go for more than

2:36:38

two we hope. So I'm saying this with

2:36:41

John C Dvorak: a j&j and never had to get to is just to get the

2:36:44

one and done right. And it wasn't mRNA. So, you know, is

2:36:48

the dino virus different Adam Curry: but but the report I have is rather dire. And so I

2:36:53

just want to preface that by saying we love you. No matter

2:36:57

what. John C Dvorak: Nurse Jamie, a lot of people out there they got

2:37:02

this shot. I mean, it's not going to it's a percentage. game

2:37:06

you're playing at that point. Nurse Jamie getting booster

2:37:09

after booster after booster. If you're doing that listening to

2:37:11

the show, I think that's a little bit much. Adam Curry: Nurse Jamie says I want to give you boots on the

2:37:15

ground and healthcare. I've been a nurse for more than 10 years

2:37:18

as a float nurse and admitted and in administration. The level

2:37:24

of turbo cancers we are seeing right now is mind blowing. So

2:37:28

many patients with new diagnosis of cancer and as always stage

2:37:32

four non curable some of them given weeks to live. The common

2:37:37

thing I'm noticing is they all have had at least three jabs. So

2:37:42

vaccinated plus a booster if not more. Just this week, we had a

2:37:46

patient diagnosed with three new cancers, two different

2:37:51

metastatic cancers plus leukemia. This person just

2:37:55

happened to be up to date on vaccine status. I have seen

2:37:59

overdue for dose nine. So I'm assuming they had all nine.

2:38:06

That's up to date. I've never seen anyone diagnosed with two

2:38:09

different cancers at the same time, let alone three. The

2:38:13

correlation is very clear to me. It's heartbreaking to know these

2:38:16

people have been poisoned and have no idea. So I know it's not

2:38:22

uplifting, but I felt there was no one else the media, your

2:38:26

legacy does not talk about this. Your legacy media doesn't talk

2:38:30

about this. They John C Dvorak: can't just take a look at who advertises on legacy

2:38:34

media. Adam Curry: And what do you think if we had a Patreon?

2:38:38

John C Dvorak: We'd be kicked off. Exactly. Macy Gray and

2:38:42

people should have just come to appreciate what we're up to and

2:38:46

how we're doing it. Because there's no way that this is

2:38:49

possible without their help. Correct.

2:38:52

Adam Curry: Period. Are you familiar with the singer Macy

2:38:55

Gray? Yeah, of course. Well, she was on the MTV reality show The

2:39:02

Surreal Life villa of secrets. And she was rushed to the

2:39:07

hospital after she had an on air emergency because of the side

2:39:13

effects of her GLP one is that the article says specifically

2:39:18

ozempic This is another product that we have been talking about

2:39:24

for since they since since it the dosage changed from

2:39:29

something for diabetics, which I think there's there's usage in

2:39:34

in low dosage for diabetics that that's been clear for over a

2:39:37

decade. That's been around, but how people are using it now to

2:39:42

lose weight is just wrong. Particularly those who just want

2:39:48

to look better. And the guy who wrote the book, we played clips

2:39:52

from him John Jo Han Hari, when he just wrote the book about

2:39:57

cars he went on GLP one he looks pretty good. By the way, I'll

2:40:00

say but he stopped taking it. And here's a quick clip of the

2:40:05

most recent interview he did, which I thought was worth

2:40:08

sharing. Unknown: Obviously, this triggers a huge amount of muscle

2:40:11

mass loss. And there's real worries with that, right? If you

2:40:15

lose muscle mass, you naturally lose muscle mass from when

2:40:18

you're 30 onwards, anyway, you lose quite a lot every year,

2:40:20

it's incredibly depressing. When you look at the figures, you

2:40:22

lose muscle mass naturally, every year anyway. If you lose

2:40:26

too much muscle mass, you won't, you'll be a bit weaker now. But

2:40:30

the real risks are when you're older. So if you have really low

2:40:34

muscle mass, when you're older, you're at risk of a condition

2:40:37

called sarcopenia, which is Greek for poverty of the flesh,

2:40:40

basically just means you're really struggled to climb the

2:40:43

stairs, do any kind of physical activity, you're more likely to

2:40:47

fall, if you do fall, you're more likely to die. It's quite a

2:40:50

serious thing. And this, I think, is particularly going to

2:40:52

be an issue for people who are already skinny, like the people

2:40:57

at that party we were talking about right at the start, none

2:40:59

of them were fat at the start, right? People who were already

2:41:01

skinny, who were taking it to be super skinny, they're gonna see,

2:41:05

they're gonna have real issues with their muscle mass likely

2:41:07

when they're older. So this is a very serious problem, we could

2:41:10

be building up a time bomb of more frail older people further

2:41:14

down the line. Adam Curry: I believe, as I believe it, we have a whole

2:41:18

generation of people just breaking in half while they're

2:41:21

standing in line. So sad.

2:41:26

John C Dvorak: Happy news today and no agenda. Adam Curry: Well, there is good news, there's yet another

2:41:30

ozempic. A new version, this is even better than last new and

2:41:34

improved Unknown: Aysen picker will go V produces an average of 15% loss

2:41:39

of body weight over a year Manjaro causes a loss of 21% On

2:41:44

average, and the next one that will come down the line is

2:41:47

probably going to come out next year, Triple G causes 24.2%. The

2:41:51

reason Manjaro works differently. So this only works

2:41:53

on GLP. One, when djaro adds another gut hormone tip. So it

2:41:57

works on two gut hormones, not just one. And Triple G works on

2:42:01

three gut hormones, and there's going to be more and more drugs.

2:42:04

I mean, there's 37 gut hormones that can affect appetite, they

2:42:07

think so there's gonna be lots of variants of these drugs, with

2:42:11

different side effects profiles, different risks, different

2:42:13

benefits. Adam Curry: Triple G now I love it. Triple

2:42:17

John C Dvorak: G is named after a boxer from like about 15 years

2:42:21

ago. Adam Curry: Well, I think 4g is incoming. I mean this is they

2:42:25

have 37 G's they can go to I what you got, I got 35 G Oh,

2:42:29

man, you look great Unknown: news. Good news.

2:42:33

Good news. Good news. Good news. That

2:42:36

Adam Curry: concludes your good news segment for today. John C Dvorak: Sorry about Lebanon before we go. Oh,

2:42:44

Adam Curry: the Lebanon. Yeah. Can I can I play one quick clip

2:42:49

before you talk about Lebanon? Sure. Let me see where is it?

2:42:56

Because we got a lot of pushback about the smart bomb. And then

2:43:03

you know, there's been some while here it is. This is what

2:43:06

John C Dvorak: do we say about the smart bomb that would elicit

2:43:09

push Adam Curry: back because the New York Times came out right away

2:43:13

and said no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it was a bomb and it was

2:43:18

planted there two months earlier. Oh, yes.

2:43:21

John C Dvorak: Oh, okay. Yeah, the the fancy bomb or the fancy

2:43:25

missile that went through the guys Windows supposedly the I

2:43:28

have the background on this too. But I suppose it wasn't data at

2:43:32

all. It was bogus. It was just somebody bragging unnecessarily.

2:43:36

And it was actually a bomb that was planted a month and a half

2:43:40

the way I understand. Adam Curry: I'm not believing that. I just see pretty

2:43:45

John C Dvorak: sketchy deals do they have no housekeeping there

2:43:49

that may that comes in and out of that hotel room. I never

2:43:53

noticed there's a bomb in the room for a month.

2:43:56

Adam Curry: Well listen to this report, the US Unknown: announced plans to move a fighter jet squadron to the

2:44:00

Middle East and maintain an aircraft carrier in the region

2:44:03

amidst growing tensions. The announcement was made after US

2:44:07

President Joe Biden said he was very concerned at the prospect

2:44:10

of escalating violence in the area. The Secretary

2:44:13

will be directing multiple forthcoming fought force posture

2:44:17

moves to bolster force for US forces regionwide to provide

2:44:22

elevated support to the defense of Israel and to ensure the

2:44:25

United States is prepared to respond to this evolving crisis.

2:44:28

In terms of what specifics that means. I don't have that for you

2:44:31

right now. Hundreds of Palestinians in Beirut held a symbolic funeral

2:44:35

for the Hamas leader who had been assassinated in Tehran. In

2:44:38

addition to the recent assassination of a Hezbollah

2:44:41

commander in Beirut, the region is faced with all our war, Iran

2:44:44

has threatened to respond after the attack on a territory and

2:44:48

Israel has vowed to kill her mass leaders over the group's

2:44:51

October 7 attack on Israel. Now

2:44:53

Adam Curry: the thing that I couldn't show you here, they

2:44:57

showed a HELOC. copter you know those night vision shots of of

2:45:04

the guy safe house blowing up. So who was in the helicopter

2:45:09

filming it? It had to be the same people who shot from the

2:45:14

grassy knoll while Unknown: in Teheran is my honey I was assassinated in a heinous

2:45:19

attack carried out by Israel. So how did this attack happen? Due

2:45:23

to the social media blackout imposed by Iran, we have very

2:45:26

few clues. However, TRT world evaluated potential scenarios

2:45:31

based on the available information. Whether it was a

2:45:33

rocket or drone attack, we know the direction it came from, the

2:45:37

attack might have been carried out with a mini drone or rocket

2:45:40

launched from the hills overlooking the building. This

2:45:42

possibility seems strong because the drone loaded with RDX

2:45:46

explosives and could achieve a low flame explosion that leaves

2:45:49

this kind of impact, or it might have been carried out from the

2:45:53

north of Tehran by an aircraft carrying a longer range missile.

2:45:57

We see that the roof on the side whether tack room is located is

2:46:00

intact. This indicates that the rocket or drone entered directly

2:46:04

through the window. Since there are no burn marks at the point

2:46:07

where the building was hit. The primary suspect is the US made

2:46:11

our MX hellfire missile. This weapon which has a range of 11

2:46:15

Kilometer must have been fired from an aircraft to hit the

2:46:18

building. Some Western media outlets claimed that a remotely

2:46:21

controlled explosive device was placed under his bed. Iranian

2:46:26

media on the other hand, argue that the attack was carried out

2:46:29

using a projectile Adam Curry: and here's Al Jazeera

2:46:32

Unknown: to breaking news coming out of Iran now where the

2:46:34

Revolutionary Guard has released a statement on Hamas leader

2:46:38

Ismail honey as assassination. They say Hamas chief honey was

2:46:42

killed by firing a short range projectile with a warhead of

2:46:46

about seven kgs accompanied by a severe explosion from outside

2:46:52

his room. We'll have more on that

2:46:56

when we get us Adam Curry: so AlJazeera says it was both

2:47:04

John C Dvorak: Well, there's some disinformation going around

2:47:07

for some reason this is being promoted since it's possible

2:47:12

that the first report is the is the right report, which is one

2:47:16

of these Hellfires that goes right into the window and kills

2:47:18

you and it was like wait a minute should we did we get you

2:47:23

know what we gave you that missile for this purpose? But

2:47:27

not you're supposed to tell brag about it you're just supposed to

2:47:31

Shut up What are we going to do now all will make up some

2:47:36

stories and so they now they have a confusion of stories one

2:47:40

says this one says that one says it's a drone one says it's a

2:47:43

missile one thing or after another and inside a bomb inside

2:47:47

there's there for a month and a half. And so it's possible to

2:47:51

just trying to muddy the waters and it was what it was to begin

2:47:54

with. Adam Curry: I think there's reasons for that. Yeah. Do you

2:47:56

want to play on clips? John C Dvorak: Yes, we got so all hell's breaking loose now

2:48:02

because they killed another guy. And and they're worried sick

2:48:06

about Lebanon. I want to play NPR. Well, yeah, but I have a

2:48:12

bunch of different clips and I want to at least get this one

2:48:15

out of the way which is this is there'll be some redundant

2:48:20

information. But let's start with Gaza update. One Israel's

2:48:23

army Unknown: says it launched two airstrikes in the West Bank

2:48:26

today and killed nine Palestinian militants. The

2:48:29

attack came as tensions mount over a possible expansion of the

2:48:32

Mideast war to include Hezbollah militant forces in Lebanon,

2:48:36

Israel and Hezbollah have fought twice before but NPRs Greg Miry,

2:48:39

who covered both of those conflicts, says Hezbollah has a

2:48:43

greater advantage this time. Hezbollah's arsenal of rockets supplied by Iran is

2:48:48

exponentially larger than before back in 2006. It was estimated

2:48:52

to be around 15,000. Now the estimate is 150,000. These are

2:48:58

larger, more precise weapons that can reach far deeper into

2:49:02

Israel, including Tel Aviv ceasefire talks, meanwhile, have resumed in Egypt. The US is

2:49:08

beefing up its military presence in the Middle East. It's an

2:49:11

effort to defend Israel and protect US troops from possible

2:49:14

attacks by Iran and its proxies. MPRs Giuliana Kim reports

2:49:18

defense secretary Lloyd Austin said he's sending more fighter jets to the

2:49:22

Middle East, as well as more Navy cruisers and destroyers to

2:49:26

that region and Europe. The new military measures are in

2:49:29

response to growing tensions between Israel and Iran after

2:49:33

top leaders from the militant groups Hamas and Hezbollah were

2:49:36

killed. On Saturday. Iran's Revolutionary Guard said Iran's

2:49:40

retaliation will be quote severe and quote According to Reuters,

2:49:45

Israel vowed to kill Hamas leaders in response to the

2:49:48

group's October 7 attack. The current conflict between Israel

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and Hamas and the war in Gaza have nearly spanned 10 months

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now remains to be seen how the recent assassinations will

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affect on ongoing ceasefire talks. We

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Adam Curry: have boots on the ground from the region, which

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I'd like to share not too long from our dude named Muhammad.

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And he picks up a thread that we started that you started

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actually said ITM gents. Is it me? Or does it seem that every

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single powerful Iranian or Iranian proxy figure vanishes

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unexpectedly? It seems like someone is systematically

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getting rid of them. After each assassination, there'll be a

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couple of days or color of colorful rhetoric followed by

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coordination for a very clean response that doesn't hurt

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anyone, and brightly lit missiles or drones that are

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intercepted by the Iron Dome. So both parties can claim some

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victory and have some good visuals for their site for their

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for their side social media accounts. The Iron Dome

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showcases an extra ad break that all parties appreciate. Killing

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the guy in an Iranian safe house is a little bit too much,

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though. Just like atoms, Iranian friends, a lot of people in this

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region think the Iranian regime is coordinating every step with

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the US and Israel. I'm going to do I'm going to take that what a

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great ad for the military industrial complex. And move

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moving aircraft carrier move out boys move out more money,

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beautiful ships, big beautiful ships to protect to protect our

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troops. John C Dvorak: So that was fascinating. Yeah, I agree with

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that. I was fascinated with this idea. There's 150,000 missiles

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ready to be shot at Israel. Yeah. And so there was an

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expanded version of Meyer is a fact he comes on and reports on

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this. In this three parter, this is the Lebanon Lebanon War. What

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are we going to get to is this going to happen again or not?

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Here we go. Unknown: The United States is urging its citizens in Lebanon

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leave the country immediately amid growing concerns of a

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regional conflict in the Middle East. This follows two attacks

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blamed on Israel this week, which killed leaders of

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Hezbollah and Hamas. It prompted threats of retaliation. Israel

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and the Lebanese group Hezbollah have fought two previous wars

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won in 1996, the other in 2006 and prs. Greg, my recovered both

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of those conflicts. He was recently reporting from Israel

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and joins me now. Hey, Greg. Hi, Scott. Nice. Can you describe

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how those two earlier wars started and then played out?

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Yeah, there were a number of similarities that still hold

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true today. In both conflicts, Israel and Hezbollah were

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exchanging regular but lower level fire just like now before