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For years while reporting on the Haditha killings, I
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thought what everyone else thought. That
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there were 24 civilians killed by Marines on
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November 19, 2005. 24
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victims. That's what's been
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reported in basically every news story about
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Haditha. It's the number the military gave
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in press conferences. The number that members of
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Congress used
0:46
when they talked about the killings. But as we got deeper
0:48
and deeper into our reporting, we
0:56
began to wonder if maybe that
0:59
number was wrong. This
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is the final episode of season
1:10
three of In the Dark, spaceship
1:13
number eight. One
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day, our producer Samara was reading through the
1:31
thousands of pages of documents that we'd received
1:33
by suing the military. But she came
1:36
across something that got her attention. Samara
1:38
called to tell me about it. Hey, Madeline.
1:40
Hi, Samara. So
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I was calling you because I
1:44
found something that's kind of interesting. Hmm.
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Samara had found a reference to something else
1:51
that happened in Haditha on the
1:53
same day that the 24 people were killed, something
1:56
else the Marines had done that hadn't
1:58
resulted in any charges. and that
2:00
none of us had ever heard of. The
2:03
reference Samara had found came in one
2:05
of the statements Lance Corporal Justin Sherritt
2:07
had given to NCIS agents during the
2:09
Haditha investigation. Most of
2:12
Sherritt's statement was about things we already knew about,
2:15
but there were a few lines about this other
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thing. The exact time that
2:19
this is happening is a little unclear, but
2:21
it's maybe an hour or so after the
2:23
ID has exploded. And so this
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would be after the Marines went into some of
2:28
the houses and killed some people. Yes. Sherritt
2:31
described for investigators how after the Marines
2:33
went into the first two houses, there
2:35
was a pause in the shooting. Sherritt
2:38
and Wouterich were outside looking around. When
2:40
Sherritt said, they spotted a man on
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the road a few hundred meters away,
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and Wouterich just opened fire. Samara
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read to me from Sherritt's statement. Wouterich
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took his first shot but missed. I
2:52
went to fire because Wouterich had fired,
2:54
but my weapon failed to fire and
2:56
jammed. Wouterich took a
2:58
second shot and hit the individual and I saw
3:01
him fall. I did not see a
3:03
weapon and no one had shot at us. Why
3:05
did they shoot him? Why did
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Sherritt say they shot him? Sherritt does
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not give a good explanation. He basically
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says like, Wouterich started shooting, so I
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started shooting. Sherritt
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said he never asked Wouterich why he shot at
3:18
the man. And as far as Samara
3:20
could tell from the records we had, Sherritt
3:23
never mentioned the shooting to investigators again.
3:25
Wouterich never talked to investigators about it at all.
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Samara went back to the documents, looking for
3:31
any other references to this shooting, trying
3:33
to figure out what had happened. And
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as she read, she realized this
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man who was shot apparently survived.
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Samara found documents that described other Marines
3:43
finding him later that day in a
3:45
nearby house. But
3:47
as Samara kept reading, she realized
3:50
that this shooting was only the beginning
3:52
of the story. Because
3:55
it turned out that the man Wouterich and Sherritt
3:57
shot at wasn't alone that day.
4:01
He had been with several other men at the time, and
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it was what happened to one of those men that
4:06
really got her attention. Most
4:10
of the information Samara was finding came
4:12
in a series of interviews NCIS investigators
4:14
had conducted with a different squad of
4:17
Marines, a group of Marines who
4:19
weren't involved in the killings in the houses. This
4:21
group was called Second Squad. Second
4:25
Squad had been posted a little ways away from where
4:27
Sherritt and Wooterich had been, and
4:29
the Marines of Second Squad pick up the
4:31
story from where Sherritt left off. They
4:34
describe hearing the gunfire coming from Wooterich
4:37
and Sherritt's position and spotting
4:39
two men running. Running through
4:41
the area fleeing Wooterich and
4:43
Sherritt. It appeared
4:45
that what had happened was that after Wooterich shot
4:48
the first man, the men who were
4:50
with him started running away, and they
4:52
ran right into the path of Second Squad. Some
4:55
of the Marines of Second Squad spotted these two
4:57
men running. According to their statements
5:00
to NCIS, they thought it looked suspicious. Two
5:03
men running and being shot at by Marines.
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They thought the men were insurgents. And
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so members of Second Squad opened fire
5:11
too, and hit one of the
5:13
men in the head. The
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man who'd been shot in the head fell to the
5:17
ground. As
5:19
the Marines watched, an Iraqi family came outside
5:22
and picked up the man. They
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brought him inside their house. A
5:26
little while later, someone approached the Marines waving
5:29
a white flag, and led the
5:31
Marines to the house. The
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Marines of Second Squad went inside and found the man
5:35
that they had shot in the head. He
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was alive, but badly injured. They
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get inside and they find the Sirockee man,
5:43
the man who's been shot in the head. The
5:46
family of the houses tried to help this guy, like
5:48
they've tied a towel around his head. The
5:50
Marines bandaged the man's head wound. They took photos
5:52
of him. And then they radioed
5:54
for a medevac. And they put him
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on a door that they're using as a stretcher, and they
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bring him. Mamdu
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was 27 years old. He
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was charming, outgoing. His brothers
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described him as a kind of guy
16:06
who got along with everyone. He was
16:08
very friendly, used to have jokes with
16:11
others. He
16:17
mixed with people. He established
16:20
a co-relationship and a friendship
16:22
with others. A
16:24
cousin later sent us a picture of Mamdu. He's
16:27
looking right at the camera, grinning a huge grin.
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A person next to him is giving him bunny ears.
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The family lived in Haditha in a neighborhood
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a little ways away from where Khalid's family
16:43
lived. Before the war, Mamdu
16:45
and his brothers worked in construction. But
16:48
when the Americans arrived, that kind of work dried
16:50
up. And so the brothers started
16:52
doing all kinds of odd jobs, just
16:54
trying to scrape a living together. On
17:01
the morning of November 19, 2005, the brothers had a job to do. A
17:06
guy who ran an operation selling gas around Haditha
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wanted them to walk to a nearby town to
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pick up one of his trucks. Mamdu
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and his brother Juma set off on
17:23
foot with two of their cousins, Hider
17:25
and Yassine. The men
17:28
didn't know that anything out of the ordinary had happened
17:30
that morning. They'd been too far away
17:32
to hear the IED explode, and too
17:34
far away to hear any of the shooting that followed.
17:44
The men walked through the town, out
17:46
of their neighborhood, and into Khalid's Saman
17:48
receives. The streets were quiet,
17:51
and then out of nowhere. There
17:57
were Marines on the street, a few hundred meters away.
18:00
firing at them. What
18:04
Mamdu's brothers were describing appeared
18:06
to be the moment that Lance Corporal Justin
18:08
Sherritt described in his statement to investigators. The
18:11
moment he said Wudirich opened fire on a man and
18:14
so he tried to shoot too. Sherritt
18:17
hadn't given investigators a clear reason why they
18:19
were shooting at the man. And
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the men told Namak they had no idea why the
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Marines were shooting at them. They
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said they weren't carrying weapons or anything
18:28
that could have been mistaken for a weapon. They're
18:31
just walking through town. The
18:33
Marines didn't call out any warning. They
18:36
just started shooting. The
18:38
men ran trying to escape. But
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one of the Marines bullets hit Yassine in the
18:43
stomach and ripped through his back. Yassine
18:45
fell face first to the ground. Mamdu
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stopped running. He checked on Yassine.
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Are you OK? Are you alive? Yassine
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said, go, run. A
19:00
neighbor pulled Yassine into a nearby house. He
19:02
was eventually taken to a hospital and he
19:04
survived. Mamdu,
19:07
Juma, and Heider kept running. Unbeknownst
19:10
to them, they were running right into
19:12
another squad of Marines. Second
19:14
squad. And then. Wahooebras.
19:18
So his brother Mamdu was shot and his head.
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Mamdu was hit too. Neighbors
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got Mamdu into a house. His
19:32
cousin Heider went into the house with him. Heider
19:35
later told his family what happened inside.
19:38
How Mamdu, despite his head wound, was still
19:40
conscious as he lay on the floor of
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the house. How he was
19:44
praying and asking Heider to take care of the
19:47
family. Heider told the
19:49
family how a group of Marines entered the house
19:51
and carried Mamdu out to an
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American helicopter. The
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search came up empty. The
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family kept trying. Juma and
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Qasem traveled with their mother to prisons
22:07
all over Iraq, checking
22:11
to see if Mamdu was being held in any of
22:13
them. But he
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wasn't. Qasem said
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their mother refused to stop hoping that
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Mamdu might still be out there somewhere,
22:22
and that one day they might find him. She
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didn't stop looking for him.
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She knocked all the doors.
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Mr. Khaled, Baghdad, American, Iraqi
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forces, she didn't give up. And
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she wouldn't allow Juma and Qasem to stop
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looking either. Juma
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and Qasem never gave up hope they might
22:51
one day find Mamdu. But
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after their mother died, they did stop
22:56
searching. They
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told Namak that they wanted to end this
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anguish of not knowing. If
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Mamdu was dead, they wanted to know. Maybe
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even find his body and bring it home for
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a proper burial. And
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of course, if their brother was still out there
23:13
somewhere alive, they wanted to find him. But
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it had been so long, almost 20 years. They
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tried everything, looked everywhere, talked to
23:22
everyone. But
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they'd never been able to find Mamdu. And
23:28
so, we decided to
23:31
try. The
23:43
last time anyone in the family had seen Mamdu,
23:45
he was being put onto a
23:47
U.S. military helicopter after being shot
23:49
by Marines in the head. But
23:51
he was still alive at that point, even still
23:54
talking, according to his family. We
23:56
actually managed to find a Marine who was on that
23:58
Black Hawk helicopter that day. day. His
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name is Pedro Garcia. He'd been
24:03
wounded that day in a different engagement in another part
24:05
of town. Garcia remembers being
24:07
told by someone that the Iraqi man being
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loaded onto the Black Hawk with him was
24:12
responsible for the IED that killed
24:14
Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas. I
24:17
look over and I'm like, who the hell
24:19
is this? And
24:21
then one of the guys from First platoon
24:23
were like, excuse my
24:25
language, but they were like, that's a piece
24:27
of shit that fucking pulled the trigger on
24:30
the IED. And I'm
24:32
like, why? Why is
24:34
he here? Why? Why?
24:36
And I remember saying,
24:39
fuck you, piece of shit. Mamdu
24:42
of course was not the trigger man, but
24:45
Garcia didn't know that. On
24:47
board the chopper, Mamdu was hooked up to
24:49
oxygen. He didn't look good. Someone
24:53
asked Garcia if he would squeeze the
24:55
oxygen bag to help Mamdu breathe. And
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I remember it was a crew chief. He
25:00
told me he goes, hey, I need you
25:03
to blow the little mass
25:05
thing with those little ball to squeeze
25:07
and it pumps air, pump
25:10
air into him to keep the circulation. He
25:12
wanted me to do that to him, to the
25:14
Iraqi guy. And
25:17
I literally told him, it
25:20
might have been cold, but when they
25:22
told me who that person was and then
25:26
knowing that one of my
25:28
buddies is killed, I told
25:31
him, excuse my language, but go
25:34
fuck yourself. Fuck and let them die. And
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Mamdu was still alive when the Blackhawk landed
25:43
near the hospital at Al-Assad Air
25:45
Base. Samara
25:51
found records of interviews that NCIS investigators
25:53
did with medical personnel who worked
25:56
at the hospital on the base. And they
25:58
tell what happened after Mamdu arrived. arrived. He's
26:01
flown to the hospital at the American base
26:03
at Al-Assad. And when he
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arrives at Al-Assad, he's in pretty bad
26:07
shape, but he is still alive. And
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Al-Assad doesn't have a name for him, and they have
26:12
no identifying information at all.
26:15
So the front desk clerk enters him into
26:18
the patient log as enemy
26:20
prisoner of war patient number eight.
26:24
At the hospital at Al-Assad, medical
26:26
staff intubated Mamdu, who
26:28
they called patient number eight. Then
26:31
they loaded him onto another helicopter, bound
26:33
for a hospital in Baghdad, run by
26:36
the American military. We
26:38
have a statement that a Marine who was on
26:40
that flight to Baghdad gave to investigators. This
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Marine's job was to guard Mamdu on the
26:45
helicopter ride. He was accompanied by
26:47
a nurse. The Marine
26:49
told investigators that the chopper landed in
26:51
Baghdad on a helipad near the hospital.
26:54
The Marine then loaded Mamdu into a
26:56
six-wheel ATV and drove to the hospital.
26:59
They went inside. It was full of
27:01
military personnel. A second
27:03
lieutenant told the Marine he'd have to fill
27:05
out some paperwork about the patient he was
27:07
guarding. The Marine asked if he
27:10
could use the bathroom first. When
27:12
he returned, the second lieutenant told him, don't
27:15
worry about the paperwork. The
27:17
man you brought us is dead. It
27:26
isn't clear exactly what happened in Mamdu's
27:28
final moments, or exactly when he
27:30
died. It seems it could
27:32
have happened on the second helicopter ride, the one
27:35
to Baghdad. We
27:37
requested Mamdu's full medical records from the
27:39
U.S. military, but they refused to provide
27:41
them. We do know
27:44
that despite his head injury, Mamdu was
27:46
considered stable when he left Al-Assad, headed
27:48
to Baghdad. The
27:50
limited records we did manage to obtain say
27:53
that he died, quote, as a
27:55
result of a penetrating injury to the brain.
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