0:00

Lovely book Club.

0:09

Foo.

0:10

Sure this is a Miss

0:12

Piggy.

0:13

You just see this.

0:14

CEO of High Hurt Bob.

0:17

I'm sure he's expecting me.

0:19

I'm his three o'clock.

0:21

Let me just call in right now if you can have

0:24

a seat right there on the couch there, missus

0:26

peg, that's a Piggy.

0:28

Okay, I would take your

0:30

Lotte.

0:32

There is a there's some instant coffee

0:34

in the cupboard.

0:35

What is this trouf was born?

0:42

Hey, Bob, Yeah, I've got Piggy

0:44

here. Say here for a meeting. Okay,

0:47

yeah, you can go right on in, Miss pig.

0:50

Mercy and the Lotte please.

0:56

Miss Piggy, Bob Pittman, Bob,

0:59

it's.

0:59

Such a poo leisure to meet you.

1:01

You know.

1:02

As CEO of iHeart, I think I can safely

1:04

say you are the first pig that

1:06

I've ever had in my office.

1:08

As it should be.

1:10

And I've met Harvey Weinstein.

1:13

You know, I heard through

1:15

the great Vine of Hollywood that

1:18

you were.

1:18

Dying for me to have a show.

1:21

Well, you know, Miss Piggy, podcasts are so

1:23

hot right now. They are the future. You know,

1:25

iHeart reaches over one and

1:27

twenty percent of Americans every

1:30

single week and from their living rooms to their

1:32

cars.

1:32

Now, I was thinking to show basically

1:35

it's a lot about me and my shopping habits,

1:37

and I interviewed designers like

1:40

Vivy and Westwood, and maybe

1:44

I have started just a Parker on

1:46

But then it's mostly about

1:49

me interviewing eligible frogs

1:52

and talking to other amazing, successful

1:55

sexy men like yourself.

1:58

Miss Piggy. I think that's sounds super fun.

2:01

Now, I just want to stop you right there for a

2:03

second. We hear at iHeart. We really try

2:05

to appeal to as universal of an audience

2:07

as possible, so I wonder if that

2:09

idea might be a little bit niche maybe

2:12

something a little more universal.

2:14

Everyone loves Piggy, of.

2:16

Course, everyone does love Piggy. But I

2:18

do think that maybe the frog angle

2:21

and the pig angle might be a little

2:23

hard because so many of our listeners

2:25

are human.

2:27

What you're saying, the human man is

2:29

not attracted to Miss Piggy. I'll

2:31

let you know I've been with the best of them,

2:34

George Clooney, Brad.

2:36

Pitch to me, shut on me.

2:39

They've already said yes.

2:40

In fact, they're in my DMS.

2:42

They're begging me, begging me.

2:44

No, those would be great guests to have on

2:46

your show.

2:47

I've already made a contract myself

2:50

for me, typed it up.

2:52

What do you think of this?

2:54

And this number?

2:57

Okay, ten thousand dollars a

2:59

year? Wow?

3:00

Okay, well, Bob,

3:03

I would hate to do this, but I

3:05

saw you leaving Mammo Fuku having

3:08

the bo Sam with Gonzo,

3:11

and I will go to pick Weekly.

3:14

You sign my country.

3:16

I was supposed to be a secret Mondev. Nobody's

3:19

supposed to know about me and Gonzo's dinners.

3:22

I would even want to know what you were discussing

3:24

Gonzo's dang to me.

3:26

You know what, miss Piggy, you know, I think, actually that sounds

3:28

like a great idea. Frogs then the whole thing. Yeah,

3:30

that's a great, great, great podcast.

3:33

I've shut it and we can make a deal.

3:35

Kistaff.

3:38

Who's that knocking at the door. It's

3:40

all your friends. You've filthy whrse, your husband's

3:43

gone, and we've got books and a bottle of wine

3:45

to kill.

3:46

It's Hollywood, it's books, it's

3:48

gossip.

3:49

I'm sure it's memoirs. Martini,

3:54

CLEVELYO Club read

3:56

it while it's hot. Clevely Club

3:59

I'll.

3:59

Tell your secrets.

4:00

We won't talk celebrity books.

4:04

No boys are a loud.

4:07

Say it loud and pounds.

4:09

Celet book Club buzz

4:12

me in.

4:12

I brought the queer.

4:13

Foe best friend

4:15

that kills me every time.

4:18

It will be hard not to do. The

4:20

voices, the voice. What we're calling the voice,

4:22

this entire arms, the voice

4:25

just a few minutes. Far want to check in, Hey.

4:29

Best friend, Hey, one of my best

4:31

friends in the whole world. Have you been this past week?

4:33

It's been a crazy It's been a crazy week. Fashion

4:36

Week New York is alive. It's electric going

4:39

on. So what shows have you been to?

4:41

So a ton triple mail XL.

4:44

I went to the Dockers Show. I

4:46

walked on the Dockers Show.

4:48

I saw you at a men's warehouse closing actually.

4:51

The closing show. It was a dinner. Men's

4:54

warehouse had a super intimate dinner catered

4:57

by Applebee's ex lover

4:59

boy, and I just, yeah,

5:01

I have.

5:02

Any na shrubs for this soberful?

5:05

Yeah, it was imitation Scotch with

5:08

shrubs.

5:10

Anything grosser?

5:12

Yeah? What shows have you watched?

5:13

It? Well? So I went to the Gauntlet Cheng

5:15

show.

5:16

I went to that show once two years

5:18

ago.

5:19

Yeah. It's one of those things where I just I'm on the list at

5:21

this point and they're kind of like your grandfather,

5:23

I'm grandfathered in and they need bodies. Yeah,

5:25

And it was like this thing where

5:28

it was like obviously I always like standing,

5:30

and then like there

5:32

was like iPad girls in this space like

5:35

check in with to be like get your seat,

5:37

and then like I saw like this

5:39

girl like ask to be like,

5:42

oh, do you have a seat, like and then she's like, no, you're standing.

5:44

It's kind of like probably gonna be standing to but you know, I'll just check

5:46

to make sure. And then I'm like, so, yeah, the last name.

5:48

And then she's like Beatbebepepe,

5:51

so you're gonna be standing, And I was

5:53

like, oh, totally absolutely, I love. I

5:55

love to stand. You can see so much more

5:57

when you stand.

5:58

Sitting is so over it being

6:00

kills no.

6:01

I mean, first of all, city is literally bad for your health.

6:03

It's the new smoking. And when you're

6:05

sitting, you're not seeing like the full outfit

6:07

as much. You're getting like the crotch pov.

6:10

Oh, it's almost it's perverted.

6:11

And also when you're standing you can turn around,

6:14

so I was actually kind of in the middle. There

6:16

was like several aisles and I was in between two miles, so

6:19

I could literally do a three hundred and sixty

6:21

degree turn. I'm getting way more views

6:23

than the sitters, So actually huge

6:25

hack if you're going to go to a fashion show

6:28

stand.

6:28

Yeah.

6:29

Anyway, the clothes were amazing two

6:31

or to four. I'm so proud of the designers

6:33

and all the work they put in over the years. Beautiful

6:36

Yeah, dresses.

6:37

Okay, So anything going on your mood

6:39

board?

6:40

Yeah, I mean I don't

6:42

think so. It's very like I.

6:44

Mean the garment chain show. I remember going to Gauzy,

6:47

very gaussy of

6:50

the boots.

6:50

You were like wow, but you were like, I don't know if I could

6:53

roll it off.

6:54

I think it's like people would be probably too turned

6:56

on.

6:56

Oh absolutely, it was scary.

6:58

Anyway, fashion Week is amazing and

7:01

it's so funny, like see people like really

7:03

all fashioned out, like going to their one

7:06

event. Yeah, And it was like I saw this

7:08

couple get off at Midtown, which made me think

7:10

they're going to my favorite store, Nord Storm,

7:13

And the guy was in like a wool trench

7:15

and the girl was in Mary Jane's

7:18

and leather and skirts and they got out

7:20

and the guy started applying cologne.

7:22

Oh god, that's so sad. Yeah,

7:25

it's like reminds me of my friend Lily,

7:27

who actually didn't get into a party

7:29

this week and then I got into. It's actually

7:31

so sad.

7:33

That's a ghost story. Maybe save that for

7:35

the vik for the VI.

7:38

Scary chose

7:41

Halloween naboo.

7:42

Okay, we should talk about the biggest fashion

7:45

icon in the entire world.

7:46

She truly is a

7:49

ground breaking.

7:51

Groundbreakings,

7:54

ageless singer, entrepreneur,

7:57

feminist, eternal

7:59

fiance say.

8:00

Yeah, although now is

8:02

single right since twenty fifteen allegedly.

8:05

But girl, she

8:08

invented Carrie. She invented

8:10

like all women.

8:11

Honestly, she literally invented all women. She

8:14

invented like ironic self

8:16

beware, like satirization of

8:18

commininity, of like.

8:20

Being like I'm ridiculous and I need diamonds

8:22

and chanel.

8:23

Yeah, she invented like those

8:26

Jonathan Nadler pill pillows.

8:28

Oh that's like, can I get valume please?

8:33

She is our first non human

8:35

subject.

8:36

Yeah, this is going to be an interspecies

8:39

pod. She is our first

8:41

puppet. Yeah, this is huge. She's

8:43

our first pig.

8:47

She's all foam and no bullshit,

8:49

ladies and gentlemen, misss

8:52

Piggy.

8:53

And her book The Diva

8:55

Code.

8:56

Miss Peggy on Life, Love and tend.

8:58

Theatic Things Men crossed

9:00

out Frogs too.

9:03

This is also, you know, one

9:05

of her many books.

9:07

Yeah, she's got several in the stable.

9:09

How do we pick this one? Not to pray?

9:11

I think, you know, I bought this for my mom

9:14

in high.

9:14

School, okay, and then you had it lying around and

9:16

you were like, you need money, and you got it for me.

9:19

I actually didn't have it lying around that I reordered.

9:21

I think my mom has her own copy, okay.

9:24

Her well trodden copy.

9:26

Yeah, I think I was familiar with it, and

9:28

I think some it seemed the most

9:30

like classic Piggy. It's also early two

9:32

thousands, Piggy.

9:33

It's two thousand and nine, which you

9:36

really start to see in some of the references

9:38

in the book when she talks about iPods and.

9:40

BCBG and

9:43

you know, so it's like she has a cookbook if that's more

9:45

from the nineties, and that's like going for like

9:47

on eBay, I think like ninety.

9:50

Felt books, right, because

9:53

this was giving seven thirty two books so

9:57

the cover is that.

9:58

She has her strained hair and she has been it's.

10:00

Bangs with this like two thousands bang straightened

10:03

hair. It's feathering a little. It's almost like it

10:05

could if you kept going, you could get to a wolf cut in

10:07

a few years, do you know what I mean? And you could also face

10:09

framing.

10:10

It's not a Rachel because she is bangs,

10:12

but like Rachel, it's getting into

10:15

the waves of like kind of you know,

10:17

the Courtney Coxes and the classic

10:19

celebrity waves.

10:20

I watched that insane video that's

10:22

like huge, like YouTube Nerd that you sent.

10:24

Me, was like welcome to

10:27

Dan's.

10:30

Annie, and he's like surrounded by like so many Boba

10:32

fat heads in the background and he is doing

10:34

this full history of him speaking, which was really

10:36

interesting. But basically she kind of got

10:38

this razor bob in like nineteen eighty nine

10:41

that like lengthened over the course of the nineties,

10:43

but it's still like straightened. It's straight

10:45

bangs because she was doing way

10:47

more. She was almost like feathered and then doing like you

10:49

know, big kind of glamorous old Hollywood curls.

10:52

Yeah, like, well was first time with the cover and then we'll

10:54

go back. So she's in pearls because she's classic.

10:57

She's in like an angora pink

11:00

like fluffy vest.

11:01

It's also like this material it's

11:04

almost Shaneil esque.

11:05

It's Shaneely, but maybe not as shiny as

11:07

Shaneil. Huge flower,

11:10

which is very Carrage. This outfit.

11:13

She is very carry and we are because.

11:16

She's this voluminous feminine

11:18

like fifty skirt. Right, it's like.

11:20

Going tight and big and pearls

11:22

and saying, yes, this is glamour. Then it's like

11:24

opera gloves.

11:26

The over accestrization is very carry. And then

11:28

she's wearing a ring over the glove.

11:30

And I'll tell you this, it's an engagement

11:32

ring.

11:32

M hmm.

11:33

Remember no wedding ring.

11:36

It's really just crazy

11:38

to me.

11:39

Kermit never like sealed the deal.

11:41

They've never gotten married.

11:43

Yeah, I mean the thing about Puppets.

11:45

It's also the Raws and Rachel. It's like, once

11:48

they get married, where's the story?

11:50

Right? And I think that's why, like Disney

11:52

broke them up in twenty fifteen when they were doing

11:54

like a Muppets relaunch for Disney Plus or something.

11:57

Yeah, and I.

11:57

Watched the movies like with like Tina fe and Brenda

12:00

was reading some article and.

12:01

They were just like, you know, one thing Jim Henson always

12:03

said was get out of the character's way.

12:06

And it's a little bit just like you know what, like they

12:08

are muppets and you probably could have figured out ways

12:10

to just like have them still be

12:12

in their mode.

12:13

I think they're a way where we could have

12:16

given Piggy a marriage

12:18

and that it could have been like hean knows

12:20

it for some reason, Like it's just.

12:21

Like a little lazy. It's like The Simpsons is

12:23

still in the air. They're not being like and now they have to

12:25

get divorced because we've run out of ideas. It's

12:28

a little bit like there are some like a

12:30

suspension of disbelief with like characters

12:32

like this, because I will say Miss Piggy is

12:34

an invention.

12:35

She literally transcends

12:37

I think like cartoon yep

12:40

bits.

12:40

But like cartoons, it's kind of just like, yeah, you're

12:42

supposed to believe that she's the same age every year, like

12:45

she's not getting older. So what's with the fiction

12:47

of them getting divorced?

12:48

Because I watched this like interview

12:51

with her and it was about how like Miss pig

12:53

was fifty and Miss Piggy's like.

12:55

I'm twenty five.

12:56

Yeah, She's like, what do

12:58

you mean, misspeaking.

13:02

The only impression I can do that I've

13:04

I think really I've been prostracting

13:06

it for a while. So

13:09

just to start from we're gonna

13:12

jump into the divco but a little bit of history

13:14

here and like go through her.

13:16

Look.

13:16

So Jim Henson when

13:18

he was creating the Muppets, it was actually only

13:21

picked up by the UK because it was so

13:23

fucking weird.

13:24

That's so UK because this is the

13:26

thing. You know. I was actually talking about this with Michelle

13:29

Collins the other day on her pod. But

13:31

it's like America doesn't let

13:34

non like super conventional attracted

13:36

people be on TV, and so like Muppets

13:38

especially, they're just like freaked out by it. And like

13:40

that's why British reality shows are like

13:42

better because like they have like crazy people

13:45

on them.

13:45

Or that hilarious sitcom with that huge

13:48

woman Miranda.

13:49

Yeah we love her. Yeah, they

13:51

just like you have to just like be so fucking.

13:54

Fake, so fucking fake and pluck.

13:57

And plastic surgery eyes and veneered.

14:00

Pounds and it's like Miss Piggy

14:03

is like before you know, the Lizzo's.

14:09

She actually paved the way for women of sie

14:12

literally run.

14:16

It's like she is the first proud.

14:20

Curvy curvy Yeah, who

14:22

was not being like curvy as a joke because

14:25

like who else was even? I

14:27

mean, because like everyone who is famous in like fifties and sixties

14:29

was a fucking stick I know. I mean, I guess like may

14:31

West was curvy in some ways. May

14:33

West paved the way for Piggy.

14:35

Yeah.

14:35

But is it that thing where I feel like we've talked about

14:37

this, but people are always like Marilyn Monroe

14:40

was like actually a size zero, but in today's size

14:42

zero, that's twelve.

14:44

And today's in nineteen

14:46

fifty six, ized twelve is actually a size.

14:48

And you're like, wait, so I'm

14:51

lost. I'm actually lost now.

14:52

And I think Miss Piggy I didn't know

14:54

this. So her creator is this woman Bonnie Erickson, who

14:57

was like working for Jim Henson and he

14:59

said, I want you to make me three pigs

15:02

and she made like a male pig and

15:04

then she made Miss Piggy. But

15:07

the Piggy she made then, I mean, it's not

15:09

the Piggy of today.

15:10

No, And what did she name it?

15:12

Piggy?

15:13

Lee because she was a huge fan of

15:15

Peggy Lee. And then Peggy Lee actually

15:18

threaten to sue the threatened to

15:20

Jim Henson because she was just like, I'm

15:22

not a pig.

15:23

I'm not a pig. And it's like crazy. I

15:25

mean, that's so like fifties singer to

15:28

be like offended that there's like a puppet

15:30

of you. She's like, I'm a world class

15:32

sing a doll.

15:33

But you know, obviously it worked out in Miss Piggy's favorite

15:35

because if she was named Piggy Lee.

15:37

It would have kept her in the fifties. And again she's twenty.

15:39

Five, yes, and she's a contemporary figure who

15:41

evolves like with America.

15:43

And in this book is talking about blackberries

15:45

and BC beg right, Like if she was Piggy

15:48

Lee, it would be this like an

15:50

owl for a fat out, like.

15:52

She would have ever gotten to be the huge star

15:54

she was because she would have been too tight.

15:56

God intervenes, you know, everything happens

15:59

for a reason. Yeah, I love

16:01

me some Peggy Ly and she is so piggy,

16:03

She's so like sultry,

16:05

loud.

16:06

Well, funny thing about Miss

16:08

Piggy is she like wants to be Peggy

16:10

Lee. And she wants to be this

16:12

singer and this cabaret artist. But of course,

16:15

like she's always like too

16:17

much of a natural comedian and she's just like

16:20

she falls into the comedy of it is this.

16:21

Thought of her. It's like her character is someone

16:23

that's usually portrayed as like a

16:26

kooky side character, like maybe

16:28

a Samantha or fran

16:31

Fine, like someone who's like funny, ridiculous,

16:34

wants diamonds, but it's still the love interest

16:37

of the nanny.

16:38

Oh sorry, yes, of course, yes, yeah.

16:40

But it's rare that like a piggy

16:43

like character who's like silly and loves

16:45

chocolate and diamonds is still

16:47

the main love interest.

16:49

Well in the movie, I was kind of thinking of it

16:51

in this way. It's like she's kind

16:53

of like a drag queen in this way,

16:57

she's fabulous. She's doing this like satire

17:00

femininity and like consumerism

17:02

and commercialism and like you know, the fame

17:04

horneman, the like the desperation for celebrity,

17:07

but like she's making herself the butt

17:09

of a joke in the way that like you do

17:11

in drag as well, where it's like she's

17:13

always going for the laugh, you know.

17:16

Carol King you know what I mean. I

17:19

guess that Carol Amore,

17:23

Philis Diller, And

17:25

this is the thing, it's like, you can't

17:28

really be super hot

17:30

and super funny. No, sorry, Sarah Silverman.

17:34

Who's like the hottest, funniest

17:36

actor. Cameron Diaz.

17:38

Cameron Diaz, Actually you're right now, Cameron isn't. Jenny

17:40

McCarthy changed all that.

17:41

But the mold.

17:43

They did break the mold in this way,

17:45

but not in the like they're not

17:47

live acts. I guess it's different for them,

17:49

yes, to be like the full because

17:51

it's like I'm thinking, just back in seventies Land

17:54

Share for example, like

17:56

so glamorous, they work together

17:58

so sexy, hey, and like Share

18:01

is funny, but Cher's not really willing

18:03

to go all the way. She's not gonna be Chris

18:06

Sarley, Like she's not gonna make herself

18:09

the butt of the joke.

18:11

Canonically, the straight man was sonny sunny

18:14

and Share like he was silly, and she was I

18:16

roll girlfriend, right, which is funny

18:18

because it's like Piggy Eye rolls

18:21

in this whole book, if I'll read some she

18:23

ie rolls at Kermit, but

18:26

like Kermit is actually kind of

18:28

I don't know, the Woody Allen. He's

18:30

like the nerdy, nerdy

18:33

indie guy who's so like women

18:35

are crazy and I'm actually a genius,

18:37

but like you should trust me, Like she's the crazy

18:40

one.

18:40

Yeah.

18:40

No, he's always gaslighting Piggy.

18:43

Yeah, he's like this like manipulative

18:45

indie cook.

18:46

So here's sorrys

18:50

in Richwood. It's like I could really go

18:52

the fuck off about Kermit, Like and obviously

18:55

there be no Piggy without Kermit,

18:58

but you know I was watching him up It's Take Manhattan,

19:00

and you know he's.

19:04

Our jobs are fucking crazy

19:07

with the amount of research for this show. Wait,

19:09

did you see this scene where she gets

19:12

robbed, she.

19:14

Gets mugged, and she's chasing him in the park.

19:17

In the roller skates and then it's like she's life

19:19

size and she's and that was like.

19:21

She's borring Gregory Hines roller

19:23

skates and

19:25

it's actually so Zoey Dashanel

19:28

and Indy. Basically like Kermit

19:30

thinks Piggy leaves to go home and

19:33

he gets a job at this diner and

19:35

like starts like flirting with the daughter who's

19:37

so bangs and an aspiring fashion designer,

19:40

and they're like walking through Central Park, just

19:42

like talking about like life

19:44

and stuff, and Piggy is like spying and

19:46

being so and

19:49

then it's like she gets robbed and then she steals

19:51

this guy's roller skates still like starts skating

19:53

off of them, and he's being so like, well,

19:56

Piggy, she's just a friend, like bangs

19:58

girl and Hug and

20:01

it's like fuck off.

20:03

I guess I do think in this context

20:05

though, that Kermie is gaslighting the other girl

20:07

who probably thinks it's gonna be more absolutely,

20:10

but in his own way, he is just being like a dumbstricker

20:13

who's just like whatever.

20:14

Well yeah, and he also thought Piggy move so.

20:19

But that's why she likes him, is like because

20:21

he is kind of a simpleton sometimes and

20:24

she can manipulate him and order him around.

20:26

That's why it is all about where she's like I love

20:28

Chanell and Diamonds and is like

20:30

I want Brad Pitt, but like she

20:32

just flirts with like let's say, what era

20:35

is it. Maybe it's Johnny Cash, maybe it's best

20:37

Pit, but like she does want

20:39

her just a kind of indie.

20:41

Yes, Hug, She's she's

20:43

doing that character right, I mean, as I was saying,

20:45

she reminds me a friend of the podcast Cohen a little

20:47

bit, yes, who is a very contemporary figure,

20:49

and she sat her as a millennial culture like

20:52

on stage in this like fabulous like

20:54

musical persona. She's like making

20:56

yourself the butt of the joke, being like, oh, like you

20:58

know, isn't the desire for attention

21:01

that is so emblematic of her era? Like it's not

21:03

funny and I'm this like embodiment of that.

21:05

Of like millennial stuff, right, But she's

21:08

actually kind of satirizing that.

21:09

She's satirizing that, and like cat loves her boyfriend,

21:12

That's what I'm saying.

21:14

Just like like at the end

21:16

of the day, like their love is so strong

21:19

Cleo

21:29

Club. This is also

21:31

you know in this era, it's like the

21:33

eighties nineties, desire was like really

21:36

trendy to be like how can I change a man? You

21:38

know, like give the man a makeover, Like let's

21:40

put him in an HERMANI suit. And you

21:42

know this is such an example, and you

21:44

know she's basically listing all these

21:47

situations that frogs do and

21:49

how you can fix it.

21:51

Forty he's fashion changed one

21:53

word green. It's all he wears

21:56

formal and former casual casual

21:58

chic urban cheek suburban she informal

22:01

casual sub Saharan chic. No

22:03

matter the occasion, it's always the same

22:05

green outfit.

22:06

What voo need to do?

22:08

Look on the bright side.

22:09

If he's naturally green, this essentially

22:11

means he's not wearing anything.

22:13

So you know, it's like she's mad that he has bad style.

22:15

But then she's being like, isn't it hot that he's naked? Literally,

22:19

which is so this is very nineties of

22:21

like because like when did that kind of birthday

22:23

card culture come out of just being like women

22:26

in sert shoes here, like men

22:29

they're good for nothing. My body's a temple, and

22:31

like services are not open today, but all

22:33

I want is a hot man with like a chainsaw.

22:36

And like just being so like hmm

22:38

yeah, chocolate, need it now,

22:40

like and then all man cards

22:42

are so which she talks about here is very

22:45

like, uh, sorry, I'm always

22:47

a husband glued to my remote. Yeah,

22:50

I'll take you out to dinner, like men hate

22:52

restaurants and like all they do

22:54

is love watching TV, and now like

22:57

men are addicted to restaurants.

22:58

Exactly, and now women

23:01

actually are so into gadgets and they're

23:03

fit bit. Okay wait, the

23:05

part where she's like he's two

23:07

into gadgets is so yes,

23:10

I'm gonna try and do a pick impression. It's not Gonnass,

23:13

he's gauds. I can't do it.

23:15

Mine's too Yoda.

23:17

Let's do the exercise that they did, which.

23:19

Is ironic because Frank Oz does miss Piggy and

23:21

Yoda. Yeah, he's such a genius because

23:23

it's like, how does he do both? They're

23:25

so different. They are like similar, but they

23:27

are so different, and.

23:28

Yet he's also directed Father of the Bride. Yeah,

23:31

just like what a talented man.

23:32

You know, are still alive?

23:33

Yeah?

23:33

Wait, okay, wait, sidebar. Do you know how Jim Hanson

23:35

died? Really dark, it's really

23:38

random and scary. He literally got

23:40

strep throat what Yeah,

23:42

and he was like fifty two, like he

23:44

was completely fine, in totally good health,

23:47

and then like he was like, I have a sore throat,

23:49

but I think I'm fine. And he was like negotiena deal

23:51

with Disney at the time, like she didn't have

23:54

a lot of people said they thought he had

23:56

aids Lily, and it was the rumor

23:58

that his whole goal had to

24:00

dispel at the time because people like

24:03

you Italian Americans were

24:05

being so big at it.

24:08

I don't know, he likes puppet and

24:10

talking and voices.

24:12

Sorry, I'm a married.

24:13

Man and I don't play with puppets.

24:14

Okay, No, it was not. It's it

24:17

was randomly strapped and then like it turned to

24:19

pneumonia, like really quickly, and

24:21

he was just like thought he was fine. Them like two days later he

24:23

was coughing up blood. Goes to like Cedars Sinai

24:25

or whatever, and they like gave him antibiotics.

24:28

They killed the infection, but it was like too late. There were

24:30

so many abscesses and he just like so.

24:33

Stop And it's

24:35

not funny. I'm just saying. The homophobia

24:37

at the time.

24:39

Was also I

24:41

think he was straight.

24:41

He had a wife, he was straight.

24:43

Okay, and who knows what he did in his free time.

24:45

And it's actually not my business.

24:47

It's none of my business.

24:48

I'm saying. According to Wikipedia,

24:50

it was strapped throat, so like if your throat

24:53

is sore, basically you're gonna die and

24:55

go to the hospital immediately. Okay.

24:58

Anyways, yes, Francas is amazing, but.

25:00

But I was skidding before you the guy, let's

25:02

do this exercise before you read this, just for the guy

25:04

who took over for Frank Auz was

25:07

like Emma Brett. He opens up

25:09

his voice, biggering, just

25:11

kind of.

25:12

Like kind

25:16

of the cadence of it. He

25:18

scrolls a tip stirs.

25:20

If he dos a screen a Britteryxnors

25:24

and here's the absolute ladies and electronics,

25:27

he will just have to run out and get one.

25:29

And if he really doesn't particularly want

25:32

it, need it or what it does, what

25:35

you need to do. Let

25:37

him have his toys, but match

25:39

him tour for tour. If

25:42

he gets another PDA or GPS,

25:45

make sure you nap another d k

25:47

n Y a couple of pcpgs

25:50

with the field c ks thrown

25:53

in for good measure.

25:56

That was amazing.

25:59

You got the to and it's also going between

26:01

the soft one where she's been there, yeah

26:04

me and then you.

26:05

Go I was like pushing it a little too,

26:07

it's the softer one.

26:08

But then she goes in gives

26:11

me the roles being like also just like

26:13

men are so obsessed with their GPS, which

26:16

at first I was like, haha, who is, but then I was remembering

26:18

my dad like being so proud

26:20

to buy like the thickest thickest

26:23

ips.

26:23

I remember it was like Christmas Day,

26:26

like two thousand and two, my dad

26:28

getting this huge garment, this brick

26:31

garment. He was like, well, this

26:33

is pretty neat, and it like had like

26:35

such a like calculator screen that

26:38

could just like show you and they're just like showing

26:40

you nothing basically, and it's like cool.

26:43

It's like doesn't even have Google Maps on it, but

26:45

they did, like it was showing you, like your coordinance.

26:48

It would just be like okay, I'm at like thirty four

26:50

and like.

26:50

To put in the directions. It was so like beep,

26:53

hard beep.

26:54

Like well. There was also the car one,

26:56

Yeah, I'm thinking of the car. My dad had this not

26:59

just like a co wor in it, like like literally

27:01

was it for the car? Was he just like this

27:04

thing you carried around with you to like know where

27:06

you.

27:06

Were a massive ass compass?

27:08

Yeah, well he does love to hake no for

27:10

sure, and that is useful for him.

27:12

Yeah. Do you remember he carried around with him

27:14

was like yeah, we actually

27:16

at thirty two degrees north.

27:18

Yeah, and he would be like, well look at the actual

27:20

you'll see the trail that we've taken. We kind of veered

27:22

north here, so he

27:25

got some joy out of that garment.

27:27

But he didn't. I bet your mom picked up a few

27:29

BCBG.

27:30

Oh she did. She was Santa that

27:32

year.

27:33

Yeah, she was shopping for herself.

27:35

Okay. Piggy makes this like acronym

27:37

joke multiple times in the book about

27:40

DK and Y and BCBG and c

27:42

K wait read it because she's going if

27:44

he gets another PDA or GPS,

27:46

make sure you nab another DK and why

27:49

get it? Letter letters

27:52

because she's a punster at the end of the day.

27:54

And again she's a comedian and a punster. And I

27:56

was like eighties Piggy, I

27:59

feel like it was so Chanel the

28:01

dk't mind BCPEG. I was like, that's

28:03

what's so this two nine.

28:06

I'm more like American sportswear

28:08

acceptable.

28:09

Like the dec whyk

28:12

I mean the shirt I'm wearing today is

28:14

like a Calvin Klein Kermey spoof.

28:17

Where he's in sexy underwear.

28:18

Yeah, like Calvin's.

28:20

He looks like a hot indie guy.

28:23

N get it, and like, I get it, not Piggy. It's

28:26

also you could compare another comparison

28:28

Lena Dunham and Adam O Adam

28:31

Driver yeah, girls, she's

28:33

like depressed.

28:34

And he's got like a big mouth. Kermit's

28:36

got a big mouth, like a man with

28:38

a big mouth, and like.

28:40

You know, she's Piggy's whole things. She's needy

28:42

even though she.

28:44

Him to Miss Piggy.

28:46

You compared her dear friend, Miss Piggy.

28:50

She's literally a fabulous pig.

28:53

Also, Piggy is actually I'll say it, yes

28:55

she is a pig, but she's never like

28:58

the biggest I think she is in

29:00

the eighties and she has a wider

29:02

face and a perm.

29:04

Yeah, well this is getting back into this insane video.

29:06

We watched about the evolution of her like foam core

29:08

undercarriage, and like the

29:11

foam she was made with like evolved

29:13

and like got more high tech, and like her skin

29:15

got more beautiful. Like at first she was like actually

29:17

creepy exacting so that it's.

29:20

Like British people are creepy, and like even

29:22

the nerdy guy was like, it's actually hard to like

29:24

watch her move because the skin is like terrifying.

29:28

Yeah, and it's like super creppy and drapy

29:31

and like falling apart. But then it's

29:33

like, I don't know, maybe that's more realistic

29:35

and it's like, is she actually like pushing

29:37

unrealistic beauty standards for pigs.

29:40

Well, she definitely gets a snout job. Like

29:45

you'll see the snout becomes smaller.

29:47

It also becomes like longer and more expressive,

29:50

right, which is like partly for you know, acting

29:52

purposes, so like Frank can make her

29:55

more excitable and like do more comedy

29:57

with her.

29:57

And I feel like her ears were sharper and hear

29:59

the like a little more.

30:01

Like I wonder if you like affected

30:03

like state fair piggery, Like

30:06

if like the pigs that the like Wisconsin

30:08

State Fair in the seventies were actually kind

30:11

of like less sassy, less

30:14

sassy, less makeup, like

30:16

less smooth skin, and now they're like trying to buff

30:18

them and make them like so much more miss piggy.

30:20

I mean there are those like little pig runs

30:22

that I've seen at state fairs

30:25

where they name all the pigs and it's like.

30:27

Oh wait, we did see that. Yeah, that was like the best thing of

30:29

every seen.

30:29

Right, it's being so like Beyonce like

30:32

pig or whatever, and that feels

30:35

does feel affected.

30:36

By, right, And that comes back

30:38

to the joy of femininization, And

30:40

that's where I'm like, there's so much drag

30:43

overlap here, and I.

30:44

Think what they real is because when she was first on

30:46

her bower Boat show, who's like easy listening,

30:49

but she was more say with

30:51

me, demure, and then

30:53

she slowly got more

30:56

sassy yes, and then her final

30:58

form of more like the and now

31:01

and just like right,

31:03

it's like always being so diamonds diva.

31:06

But I think at first it was like, yes, she was

31:08

like glamorous, but she was a little bit like, yeah,

31:10

I'm a guy's girl. I'll follow Kermit

31:12

somewhere like okay Kurmi and is

31:14

like more like her whole thing became like

31:17

being violent, which is I'm obsessed

31:19

with, like her karate chop.

31:21

Yeah, hi yi, I

31:23

know. I was just watching an episode of The Muppet

31:25

Shirt with Liberachi as the special

31:27

guest, and that's completely insane. And she's

31:30

doing this like Greek restaurant dance

31:32

number, and there's all these other pigs

31:34

at the Greek restaurant and they're all just going Mika

31:37

nos hoummos, and

31:41

she's wearing this kind of just like almost like

31:43

a Venice like Venetian gondola outfit,

31:46

and she's just like pushing random waiters

31:48

like downstairs and just being like.

31:50

I'm no Greek buddy.

31:52

Kiss me on Tuesday, kiss me onstair.

31:56

Where it's like she wants everyone to love her, but she

31:58

also wants to just like hurt. She

32:00

does right.

32:03

And it's actually so like pushing

32:05

men and kicking them and like being like

32:07

you're disgusting, And it's

32:09

like she is this girl that like is

32:12

so like diamonds and fabulous because at the end of the day,

32:14

like her probably biggest female friend and

32:16

foe is like Janis, who

32:18

is like the Stoner and the Muppets.

32:20

She is a guy's girl.

32:22

She is a guys girl, which I think why

32:24

she is so like high Off.

32:26

Well this question where she says what

32:29

to say when you feel like fighting, and it's

32:31

like things you can do to start a fight,

32:34

ask for it?

32:34

What does when you feel like fighting? Does

32:37

this dress make me look fat? Should

32:39

I bar these shoes?

32:41

Marked?

32:41

If we watch the figures cuting competition?

32:44

Marred?

32:44

If I drive the remote? I

32:47

threw that out again, remote.

32:49

Stuff, remote jokes because

32:52

men always want the click girl.

32:53

I always love to click click click.

32:57

I do feel like I do do this though,

32:59

and I want.

32:59

To start I mean It's classic do I

33:01

look fat?

33:02

If I want to just like be mad at my boyfriend, I'll just be

33:04

like, oh so you think you look fat? And he's like, I literally

33:06

didn't even say anything.

33:07

I said nothing, and you're it's not don't impress

33:09

me much.

33:11

And I'm just like, Okay, well you didn't

33:13

say anything, which means you do think.

33:14

I like, yeah, that is like, oh so

33:16

you don't want it. You're embarrassed to be with me.

33:21

Career tip number one.

33:22

Ambition. Ambition is what drives us

33:24

marrying wealthy is what provides the driver.

33:27

People who work to live have a job.

33:29

People who lived to work have a career. People

33:31

who have people do have the work for them, haven't

33:34

made if she's not married.

33:36

Yeah, it's interesting. I

33:38

mean again, it's the character. It's almost like this Paris Hilton

33:40

book and there are Confessions of an Heiress, which is so

33:42

just like How to Be Read book. Yeah.

33:45

I also wanted to talk about identity

33:48

for a second here, please, Yeah, because in

33:50

this book she refers to herself

33:52

mostly as a woman and not as

33:54

a pig. Occasionally as a pig,

33:57

but it's mostly a woman and there's a lot of just like

34:00

this men do this or let me do this, but

34:02

frogs do this. She talks about frogs

34:04

more than she talks about pigs. Yes, and

34:07

so she's like often othering Kermy

34:09

as a frog, but in her own mind

34:12

she is standing for all women and she is

34:14

this like icon of femininity. There's

34:16

only a couple of points where she breaks, like when she talks about

34:18

the oscars and she's like, they've only given oscars

34:21

to humans, which is possibly speciesism,

34:24

which is almost like a proto woke joke.

34:26

No, and she makes another thing in the interest soudly

34:29

about this stuff where she talks about how like her

34:31

and Kurmy are like the only interspecies

34:33

couple.

34:34

Yes, that was another joke where she kind of broke

34:36

it and she was like, I get it, I'm a pig.

34:38

But and she says also in the intro

34:40

to your part, she says I will use men

34:43

and frogs interchangeably, but she doesn't

34:45

say.

34:45

I will use women in pigs inter Yeah.

34:47

Because she also doesn't want to call women.

34:49

She doesn't want to call a woman.

34:51

She's the only pig.

34:52

She's not really a pig's rights activism.

34:55

No, it's not animal rights activism. Yeah,

34:57

she's basically saying, like, I know that a pig

34:59

is a problem thing for him to be, but I also

35:01

think that like, by doing

35:04

this joke about womanhood, I'm also celebrating

35:06

womanhood and kind of like criticizing

35:09

and insulting everyone who thinks that like

35:11

women are are superficial

35:15

you know, man haters, man killers, whatever.

35:17

Because she's doing this like goat.

35:20

Which also brings back to being her be kind of a retro

35:22

drag queen. Yes, it's a little

35:24

of this kind of self hate still

35:27

being like like born this

35:29

way. Yeah, like I was born a pig, but

35:31

I meant for stardom. Yes, it

35:34

also is kind of riology.

35:36

Be damned.

35:37

I wrote this down, you know, like in

35:39

the famous queer text stone

35:42

Butcher Blues Yes by Leslie Feinberg,

35:44

And it's about how just like you know, you would automatically

35:46

just he a butch lesbian back

35:49

in the day, in the sixties, just

35:51

like it was more conversation like

35:53

you're a heat.

35:54

It was more like stud culture in

35:56

the South today, exactly.

35:58

What's your stud name? And it's like, what's

36:00

your pig name? And I think she's being like, yeah, it's

36:03

fun men frog, same thing.

36:05

Yes, he might peg.

36:07

She she's not being like, my pronouns

36:10

are pig her.

36:11

She's just being like, I'm a pig.

36:13

Obviously obviously I'm a pig, but

36:15

like, for the purpose of this conversation, I'm a woman,

36:17

yes, and like womanhood is

36:20

fluid and beautiful and it's a big.

36:22

Tent stone pig blues.

36:25

That's the theory book we're going to write about

36:27

Piggy.

36:29

And her as like a transhumanist like allegory

36:33

collapsing the boundaries of identity.

36:35

Oh I also this dad, I was like, they're also

36:38

kind of a prototype for just like a Chip

36:40

and Joanna or just like any couple

36:42

Reno show where it's like she's

36:44

so iroll, she's so eyroll and making

36:46

all these.

36:47

Design decisions, and he's

36:49

being like so doing the like construction

36:52

work.

36:52

Right, but he's it's a little more sitting.

36:55

Because he's actually.

36:58

Kermi type to this book.

37:01

Oh I love that reveal in the

37:03

middle.

37:03

Of the book. Yeah, get the page, so you

37:05

know she begins it and she's being still like,

37:07

oh if my publisher found

37:09

a typist for me, because obviously

37:11

she's not gonna type.

37:12

So it's supposed to be like ten

37:14

thousand things that idiotic frogs do,

37:17

and then it stops at forty two. Number

37:19

forty two. He's a frog who doesn't realize

37:22

how fortunate he is to have a mow and ought.

37:24

To be glad.

37:25

I put up with this dot dot dot, and then it

37:27

goes up to dot. Hold on, I'm

37:29

not typing any more of this. I quit,

37:32

and then it's like signed K the F,

37:35

I love K the F. And

37:39

then the whole book shifts and it becomes basically

37:41

more just like fridge magnet aphorisms.

37:44

Yeah, and it's being a little more like.

37:46

If your man does this, yeah, whatevery

37:48

diva needs to know? Too much is never

37:50

enough. I do love the one that's

37:52

a you could lead a horse to water,

37:54

but why would you want to wait?

37:56

That's what she gets really. Bethany also, who's

37:58

another kind of Peggy.

38:00

Bethany is one hundred percent of Miss Peggy

38:03

for sure.

38:04

Main character, but hilarious,

38:06

but a business woman like always

38:08

engaged for Mary.

38:10

I guess I'll say about Bethany is that

38:12

I don't not necessarily gonna put her on

38:14

that like faillis satirical

38:17

level that maybe like Elena dunnams on

38:19

that I don't. Bethany is deeply

38:22

unaware of whatever you could accuse

38:24

her of satirizing.

38:26

And if she thinks she's aware, like doing

38:28

her like food things, she's still like not.

38:31

Yeah, She's ultimately completely insane.

38:33

He's status obsessed.

38:35

It's all about the label, the fancy car, the

38:37

platinum encrusted watch, the vacation

38:39

place instead, the showy perks.

38:42

What voon need to do?

38:43

Give MOI his number?

38:45

So you know, it's like she's being like, yes, I want

38:47

a rich man.

38:49

So it's like the frog is typing, so he is

38:51

her cock and she is this whole time, going back

38:53

and forth to being like I will leave

38:55

you.

38:55

But he understands that it's a performance.

38:58

He totally gets that. Also very nineties

39:00

about this Pokemon comment twent thousand and nine is like the jokes

39:03

about exercise equipment.

39:05

She's anti exercise, but she's

39:07

also very like sweat band,

39:09

StairMaster.

39:10

She gets buying at home fitness machine for your bedroom.

39:13

After about two weeks, get a major workout

39:15

looking for it under all those dirty clothes, I

39:17

mean iconic.

39:18

Did your mom have Like we had a

39:20

huge exercise bike. It

39:23

was massive on like the first floor,

39:25

and you remember it.

39:26

It was like white the bottom

39:28

floor.

39:29

Yeah, and it kind of created like a wind

39:31

fan like it had.

39:32

It was a swim.

39:33

Yeah, it was a swine. And

39:36

my mom would listen to her yellow

39:38

Discman and she bought the LaBouche

39:40

CD. Actually at HMV.

39:42

That's a workout way too cool for

39:44

any mom to ever do.

39:46

I know, literally my mom buying.

39:50

That's crazy, and so she used it.

39:52

Yeah, I feel like for a while and then it became.

39:55

I remember Dusty. There was a treadmill

39:57

that I never even saw out. It was only

39:59

a against the wall and then there was

40:02

pushed down. There was this like abs

40:04

seeked and it's like, you know, those

40:06

things are like the worst machine of the gym. Like anytime

40:08

I see someone using the like thing where you sit in

40:10

and move down, it's like they don't

40:12

have abs. It's just like that's not how you

40:14

got them. It was like this seat with

40:16

like a bar that you press, you.

40:18

Push down that you're just supposed to engauge the core.

40:20

Yeah, you gauge the core. And I only

40:22

ever saw a pile of clothes on it, like it was

40:24

absolutely never finding hang defining

40:27

like nineties and buying, especially

40:29

the TV and I think there are.

40:30

Something iconic photos of Piggy like being

40:33

eighties being like leotard, let's

40:35

get physical now. It's

40:37

like she is a past generation

40:40

of like you can be fabulous but anti exercise,

40:43

Like the coolest thing for a

40:45

star is to be fit, bit

40:47

and spin. It's about being like naturally

40:49

Fabuliz go.

40:51

To a gym that Paris Hilton to bring it back

40:53

to Confessions of an Era their sister

40:56

to this book. I remember at one point she says,

40:58

if you do work out, don't tell anyone.

41:00

I love that, right, Like you're supposed to experience

41:03

of effortlessness. You're supposed to be rich and genetics

41:06

and like, yeah, being naturally thin.

41:08

It's not about working for it and being Lulu

41:10

Lemon and constant Stanley.

41:12

You know, it's completely shift now

41:16

it's a status symbol to be working

41:18

out constantly.

41:18

Only being workout close and maybe

41:20

think of the amazing scene Alton First Wives Club

41:23

when Goldie Han is on the StairMaster.

41:26

She says, I get my best ideas on

41:28

the StairMaster. She's also kind of a Piggy

41:31

like character.

41:32

Oh for sure, you know, yeah, I mean we

41:34

can just make a list of all the piggies.

41:36

Goldie Hon Cameron DIA's.

41:39

I'm kind of saying Goldiehan's more piggy to.

41:41

Me, I think because it's about being like silly

41:43

in this different, like coookier

41:45

way.

41:46

But it's also about being like diamonds

41:48

in New York and knowing that you're being

41:50

in over the top, like you know, kind of

41:52

like materialist diva who's

41:55

also like an intellectual and wants to

41:57

be the star, and you're playing with that idea

41:59

of desperation and a need for attention, like Cameron

42:01

dia is, this is not part of her persona

42:05

is the guy's girl who wants to play football and do not show.

42:07

It's like she just have this like slightly self

42:09

satirizing, Like isn't it ridiculous? How

42:11

like thirsty I am, like.

42:13

Right, and like I love men and chocolate.

42:15

Yeah, Samantha is actually not a

42:18

Piggy.

42:19

It's hard she I mean,

42:21

she is the most out of the four of them.

42:24

But in a way, Piggy is also a little Charlotte

42:26

Ye. Piggy isn't

42:29

giving it up and just wants this one guy who

42:31

has the money in the Park Avenue apartment

42:33

and Chanel right.

42:34

Just kind of Charlotte. Yes, yes, yes, no,

42:37

I mean and Charlotte's so rules, She's so

42:39

dificule.

42:40

Even though but I would say love life. She's most

42:42

like Carrie because Big is Kermit never

42:46

giving her the marriage.

42:47

Big is not like a thin indie guy who lives

42:49

in Ridge.

42:50

No, but relationship wise he.

42:52

Is a little more Steve to me though.

42:55

Personality wise you just saying, though, how Big.

42:57

It's like there's always this.

42:58

Guy, Like I think it'd be funnier if intead

43:00

of making them divorce, there was more Miranda and

43:02

Steve. Like she becomes a lesbian,

43:04

she becomes she gets pig becomes

43:06

a lessian, gets with Gena, Lions

43:11

and Chrome has just been like I'm happy to just

43:13

watch Netflix or whatever.

43:25

The fabulous segment coat, What

43:28

does she eat?

43:30

What does she wear chanel?

43:32

Of course?

43:33

How does she live? Per caven your apartment?

43:37

What does she eat for grass?

43:39

Oysters? Champagne?

43:42

Do you think bacon?

43:44

I feel like it's so piggy to like.

43:47

Go to like like

43:49

a fabulous restaurant like Laban

43:51

and Den and they serve her and she

43:53

doesn't realize it and then she gets mad

43:55

at the hip and they're like Peggy,

43:58

this is our favorite,

44:00

and they serve.

44:01

Her like some pork thing.

44:03

She starts to eat it and then.

44:05

Is like and then she gets like offended, and she demands

44:07

the meal for free, but then finishes the meal also and.

44:10

Eats it all, and then it's like, Jaminda

44:12

another dinner here.

44:15

Oh no, she's throwing a fit. She's getting comps left

44:17

and right.

44:18

Left and right. I think that's the thing about

44:20

Piggy is like she's always.

44:22

Been like friend a man to buy you something,

44:24

but.

44:25

You never see kerme swiping.

44:27

I think she gets most stuff for free.

44:29

You know where she's definitely going frog club.

44:35

But yeah, she's getting the pigs and blankets

44:37

a frog club. And then it's like I'm never

44:39

going there again. So

44:43

she eats a frog club.

44:47

But what does she wear? Designer?

44:49

Is she like a little bit like rent the Runway

44:51

And I think that's like out of business now, but like.

44:53

I think she is really run the one runway

44:55

because she is so like being dressed.

44:58

And I watched this clip of her and when he Williams

45:00

and she was like, I'm.

45:01

At a press tour like footcam

45:04

my Christian Lubitans, and I didn't

45:06

pay for them the studio did.

45:08

No because she loves labels and she wants new

45:10

stuff. But she is always being a little bit like Hermie,

45:13

where's the money And.

45:14

She's like, well, Piggy, I had to

45:16

pay for our movie that we just made.

45:19

Yeah, And she was like, fine, I'll get the

45:21

movie producer to pay for it.

45:23

Yeah. She's like renting chandelier arians. I'm at the room

45:25

way all the time.

45:26

And that is like maybe returning them.

45:28

How does she live like fabulous

45:31

Park Avenue apartment, But again, like she's not owning

45:33

it. The studio again is putting

45:35

her up. And I feel like she's very I mean

45:37

like Joan Rivers, she ran,

45:40

she's a Renter's an miss

45:44

renter, Piggy like again,

45:46

parents like maybe if she's in a mansion Beverly

45:48

Hills, it's still a little twenty thousand

45:51

a month rentals.

45:53

So low hand, that's crazy.

45:55

I feel like she's more like Janice Dickinson and she's

45:57

like, Okay, well the seconds is

45:59

probably paying like fourteen hundred a month right

46:02

now. I would say she's doing

46:04

a fifty six hundred a month

46:06

rental in the hills.

46:07

Okay, in the Hills.

46:08

Is that fair?

46:09

She should go on selling sunset. That

46:11

would be great, would be so funny,

46:14

like a Manza showing her house.

46:18

And then she steals g flip from Krishelle.

46:20

Yeah. Well and this is.

46:23

Well right because she's so high camp, like

46:25

it's kind of like class like she wasn't with Kermie.

46:28

It would have to be like a butcher in

46:32

this way, because it's kind of like she is too

46:34

much for like another street guy, like

46:38

it is more like kai femme camp lipstick.

46:41

Yeah, oh, because their original

46:43

tall fem short butch.

46:45

I wonder if she could be with like a real like

46:47

a movie star. She could be with a closet movie

46:50

star like George Clooney, And she mentions

46:52

that put George Cey in this book.

46:53

She's always like, oh, go to a charity

46:56

dinner because you'll be seated next to George Clooney.

47:00

I love going to Lake Como.

47:02

Yeah, she's squatting at his like Como

47:04

house, and it's like he's like, Piggy, where are you

47:07

And she's like hiding in a closet and like stays

47:09

there.

47:09

He's got like a train of Italian twinks

47:11

in her space and she's just in the other room.

47:13

Like having figs. Yeah, who

47:18

are you? I

47:24

mean, I think we're both biggy

47:28

like Decan why diamonds

47:30

chocolate.

47:31

We're both fabulous. Steva's in the

47:33

grand queer tradition of

47:35

eminine celebration and

47:38

satire.

47:41

Pig Her.

47:45

Yeah, I mean, there's not a lot

47:47

of other people in the book. Really.

47:49

I guess there's a kermit. She mentions

47:52

Gonzo.

47:53

We're also kind of if you want to lose our

47:55

friends, if you want to like expand to the whole

47:57

like network of muppets. We are the two old

47:59

men in the.

47:59

Balcony who

48:02

were like talking at the movies, who were talking.

48:04

At the movie here and getting shushed and are like so pissed about

48:06

everything.

48:06

Wait, I just saw which is so too old men that Anna

48:09

Wintour told Jenna Bush and Hoda

48:11

to be quiet at the US Open.

48:17

Wow, we are absolutely

48:20

getting shushed, but anyway, and

48:24

Jenna Bush is just like screaming, like

48:27

trying to.

48:27

Take a photo of Tailer Swift and on

48:29

her phone. Anna Wintour is just like, please

48:32

be quiet, toy, this is Dennis

48:34

get out to be silent.

48:36

Well, okay, club kid, it's been

48:38

a wonderful episode. Sorry,

48:42

I have a reservation at front Club.

48:44

I was trying to rush out of you.

48:46

Well, of course I give him mos

48:49

book a five out of five, five

48:53

differy engagement rings

48:56

out of five.

48:58

Yeah, I'm afraid to give this book anything

49:01

less than Chanel number five,

49:03

Chanel number fives.

49:04

I mean, I would love a longer

49:07

form.

49:08

It'd be hilarious. A memoir. Yeah,

49:10

I'd love for someone.

49:12

To like do the child and

49:14

like meeting Kermit.

49:16

Yeah, but I had such a fun time going back

49:18

watching the Muppet Show. That show was hilarious.

49:21

I was laughing like a child, literally

49:23

giggling.

49:25

And also, yeah, it wasn't really made for kids.

49:27

It's like literally not for adults. Wait

49:29

did I tell you that? I was watching like History of

49:31

the World, like mel Brooks the movie

49:34

the other day. Oh fun. I was like, I've never

49:36

seen it, and it's like so funny.

49:38

I don't think I've seen History.

49:39

It's actually like super ridiculous

49:42

and rye and it's like a ride take on history.

49:44

We love and like

49:46

because you know, like we're so like history,

49:49

and I love just like kind of like ironic modern

49:51

takes on like stuff from the cost and

49:54

it's very that have you ever.

49:55

Seen this musical the producers.

49:59

Anyway, just get into stuff from the seventies

50:01

because people were having a great time.

50:02

But they were having so much fun. And like, honestly,

50:04

if you type in like any like YouTube

50:07

search, like most random celebrities

50:09

have like done a thing with Miss Piggy. Like

50:11

I was like Miss Piggy, Johnny Cash, Miss

50:14

Piggy, Joan Rivers that is a hole.

50:17

Oh yeah, Miss Piggy ethel Merman.

50:19

She was like a do at with like everybody.

50:21

But then you go modern and she's doing a spoof

50:23

on Adele's Hello music video.

50:26

So get into Miss Piggy, get.

50:27

Into explore

50:30

the truth. Okay, Piggy

50:41

does a little to be such

50:43

a defan.

50:45

So we have to tell you about my staff.

50:47

They're wonderful, my

50:50

producers, starby Masters.

50:52

Wouldn't she learn how to dress like

50:56

a.

50:56

Booza fars Kurmit's

50:58

dear friend, did you just professing producer?

51:01

And he helps me with my BlackBerry

51:03

learning how to charge introduce my new

51:06

MacBook and my executive

51:09

producers Christine Everett.

51:11

I let her, of course a differently

51:13

introduced helping me for Corn

51:16

Diamonds, Stephen Fillip.

51:18

Torch to the music and theme song

51:20

of course, and music while I walk,

51:23

and so he creates the mixes.

51:26

For me to trot for the city.

51:29

I love art and I loved galleries,

51:31

and of course I'm a painter and I'm

51:34

a big collector because you have to.

51:35

Have multiple investments.

51:38

So Teddy blanks to the artwork

51:40

and I have many of his pieces

51:43

in my mansion in Recaos.

51:47

Where before Kermit I was with a

51:50

man on prola projects.

51:53

He couldn't well, let's

51:55

just say reported

51:57

ways. Of

52:00

course, it's t's incredibly sexy

52:02

and we made a few films in the

52:04

seventies, just not for children.

52:07

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