0:00

Are we doing. We're just gonna intro and go.

0:02

No, we always have a cold open, so we

0:05

always kind of like catch up about something.

0:08

Sometimes you kind of just makes it up of you know, spice

0:11

it up.

0:15

Or not out of It's fine.

0:18

You know what I love is Mac and I were

0:20

talking about this last night is we

0:22

were mentioning how

0:25

what's really kind of what I

0:27

was nervous about with the rewatch, But like I'm

0:30

actually loving as I'm appreciating it,

0:32

and I'm also like recognizing

0:34

like the specialness of our relationships

0:36

even more and our like

0:39

true like family

0:41

nature.

0:43

You know.

0:43

I felt like like while I was in it, while we were shooting

0:45

it, like I was so busy, like trying to be like surprisingly

0:50

like perfect. I was trying to be like

0:52

everything that I thought I was supposed to be. And now I

0:54

can actually like love and appreciate and like

0:56

kind of like come back to it. I just

0:58

like, you know, even just to smell like this

1:01

very brother sister.

1:03

I think we're realizing the significance

1:05

of the time that we spent together that was

1:07

not even on camera too,

1:10

and like the process more than

1:12

just the job that we drove

1:14

to and did and came home.

1:16

Yeah, it took like what twenty

1:19

years looks with

1:22

us in particular, we've

1:24

spent the majority of our lives

1:27

together, right, So that's I mean,

1:30

that's all it is.

1:31

You know, like we have that family

1:35

type relationship because

1:37

we've spent as much time with each other

1:39

as we have with our own families.

1:42

I didn't realize it until we

1:45

came back together really as

1:47

much.

1:47

Yeah, I know.

1:48

And it's been fun because it's like the quirks

1:50

and like the like silly little things and.

1:52

Like, well, this is great.

1:54

What's great about this and what's different

1:56

about this than the other time since the

1:58

show has been off that we've got together is

2:00

that like the few times we've gotten together after

2:03

the show went off was like we'd go out to dinner

2:05

and hang out for like an hour or two and

2:07

eat and catch up for a minute. But all that

2:09

is, you know, everyone knows, like

2:11

when you see an old friend you haven't seen it in a while and you catch

2:14

a meal, like it's not you don't

2:16

get back into the swing of things, whereas this

2:18

we're like working together doing the pod

2:21

and so we get to get back into the

2:23

swing of hanging out all day together and doing

2:26

something creative, you know, and

2:28

constructive, and that's that's what

2:31

we used to do every day together.

2:33

And I think we almost have more in

2:35

common with each other now too

2:37

than we did before, because we're all we

2:39

all have our own families now and we're

2:42

all, you know, the age difference

2:44

between us is less significant than it was

2:46

then. Totally.

2:47

I think that's the craziest thing because I was even thinking today

2:49

and I was like, realize that, you know, we're

2:52

only three years difference, which I felt

2:54

like when we were shooting was like I was

2:56

so old immature.

3:00

I was like you were.

3:02

It was.

3:03

It was justified though watching the early watching

3:05

the first season, like you

3:08

and I really were in that like little

3:10

kid bucket, and you and Jess

3:12

really were in that like preteen bucket,

3:15

and we were all kind of in different

3:17

story And Barry,

3:21

yeah, Barry looks like a twenty five year old

3:23

cosplaying as a high school student.

3:26

Along with all of his guest stars.

3:30

It's a little weird, very mature girlfriends.

3:32

Which actually, speaking of which should we do

3:34

the intro?

3:36

Sure?

3:39

Hey, everybody, in

3:41

case you don't know what you clicked on, you're watching

3:44

or listening to catching up with the Camdens.

3:46

I'm David Gallagher, I'm.

3:47

Beverly Mitchell, and I'm Mackenzie.

3:49

Rossman and uh and now

3:51

we are going to continue our our

3:54

rewatch session we've we've

3:56

started up which has been a munch requested

4:00

thing for us to do where we go through

4:02

the early days of the show and watch

4:05

some of the some of the episodes.

4:07

We're going through the first season, and

4:09

this is episode three.

4:11

Yeah, David, did you watch it?

4:13

I did. I watched it. I

4:16

rewatched it.

4:17

I rewatched it.

4:19

And you actually were

4:21

more prepared than Mack and I this morning.

4:23

Right of course.

4:25

I mean I don't know about.

4:28

Of course, but I'm

4:31

always prepared. Well,

4:33

not that

4:35

we all.

4:36

Clearly understand what an actual rewatch

4:39

is.

4:40

Yeah, well, going through the rewatch

4:43

not rewatching it kind of threw me for a

4:45

loop. Sorry, I don't know why

4:47

I was the only one who misinterpreted

4:49

the instructions. I really couldn't,

4:52

for the life of me figure out why you guys asked me to rewatch

4:54

it before we'd get together to rewatch.

4:57

I thought we were going to rewatch it.

4:58

It sounds like a re talk.

5:00

Yes, I mean I see now, the

5:03

like the politics behind

5:05

the rewatch. Why we can't do it live

5:08

on the Yeah, it

5:10

is kind of like a react ash of the episode,

5:14

but.

5:16

It's a reacting. Yeah,

5:19

that's true, a react we'd have to have

5:22

live.

5:24

Rect lots of reactions.

5:25

Yes, we used to be really good at

5:27

those.

5:28

And they didn't call it. They didn't say

5:30

like Lucy shocked. It was always just Lucy

5:33

reacts. Simon, who

5:35

do you.

5:36

Think reacted most, Like if you were

5:38

to breaked on the script? Do you think Eric

5:40

reacts the most or I don't know.

5:42

I think a lot of reactions reacted.

5:46

Though, But that was never that was never

5:48

scripted.

5:49

That was just my uh just creative

5:51

natural.

5:52

Well, I think it's just it's just shorthand,

5:54

right, Like the writers are are pumping

5:57

these scripts out, and so no matter

5:59

what the react, no matter what the appropriate

6:02

reaction is, they would just say this person

6:04

reacts, that person reacts because they wanted

6:06

to get there

6:08

their emotional

6:10

state.

6:10

That was a call out for like close ups and

6:12

editing.

6:13

Yeah, it was like.

6:14

It wasn't necessary, just

6:17

good old fashioned TV shorthand.

6:19

Yeah. But honestly, they were really so great

6:21

at pumping them out because unlike

6:23

a lot of shows that i've heard of we you

6:26

know, the script we got was the script we shot,

6:28

Yeah, and there were no last minute edits, and nothing

6:30

was still being written while we were filming it.

6:32

Basically very rarely

6:34

season we had a few different colors.

6:36

But I mean I've I've found all

6:39

my old scripts and they're blue.

6:42

I remember that when the revisions

6:44

would colors.

6:47

Green, so like our first season

6:49

did have colors in the script, but like

6:51

those rainbow, but like season

6:54

eleven, they're blue.

6:56

Do you remember when we got to Cherity, they might they.

6:58

May have given us the revision, and I just didn't.

7:00

I was gonna say, like that might just also

7:02

be the fact that we would get the revisions and be

7:04

like cool because the small Sides, which

7:07

the small Sides was a version of the script

7:09

that's this big that you could stick in your pocket. And

7:12

what you guys don't know, or maybe

7:14

do know, is that whenever you watch

7:16

the show, those small sides are in everyone's

7:20

or all have them on.

7:21

Us, always

7:23

in the kitchen and the drawer.

7:25

Yeah, you know, it's funny.

7:26

When we were shooting later in the show, I remember

7:28

liked kind of like the gum, but like

7:30

you would if you looked in some weird

7:33

nook in the set somewhere in a drawer or

7:35

like on the side you would find like dusty

7:38

old small sides from like seasons

7:40

ago, and it was like finding

7:42

an old tone.

7:43

It was always fin to try to figure out whose it was.

7:46

Sides they were.

7:47

But the revisions are the different colors

7:49

are just are different revisions.

7:51

So like your your script always started off with

7:53

blue.

7:54

Script was always blue, when you then.

7:55

Came like pink, yellow,

7:57

golden rod.

7:59

Yeah, yeah, there.

8:01

Was always three they were named colors that

8:03

would come out in order, so that once

8:05

you you would have to take the

8:07

pins out of your script and then replace

8:09

the pages that were rewritten with the new

8:11

colors, and so by the end of shooting

8:13

the episode you would have this kind of rainbow

8:16

script, but you'd be able to tell which

8:18

page was revised in which or

8:20

order. Basically of her visions through the

8:22

color system.

8:23

So the colors were I always, of course,

8:26

as I would.

8:27

I loved getting

8:29

my script all like dialed in like I loved

8:31

like as soon as the revisions came in, like my script

8:33

was like perfect.

8:35

I don't think, Jesse, I.

8:36

You remember when we got those I

8:38

bet she does. Do you still have

8:41

So Stephen, when you're for a Christmas

8:43

present, gave us all blinders, like black

8:45

binder script binders with their names on them.

8:48

That's one thing that I do still have. Actually that's

8:50

in my living room. Okay, but like

8:52

the leather bound three ring binder with their

8:54

names on it.

8:55

I'd got to check the vault.

8:58

Probably did we get back into this

9:01

rehash and dive into episode

9:03

three, which I believe is called in the

9:06

Blink of an Eye. I don't

9:08

know why, but why don't we rehash it and figure out

9:10

to find out?

9:10

Let's figure it out?

9:11

Okay, So how it starts,

9:14

as many things do, is breakfast.

9:16

At the table in

9:18

the kitchen. Yep, having breakfast.

9:21

We didn't eat.

9:22

We didn't eat breakfast a lot.

9:24

No, this was we never had birthdays either,

9:27

No, we do.

9:28

I think I think we're gonna have to. I think there is a

9:30

birthday at some point.

9:30

There's a few.

9:31

It wasn't like a regular seasonal

9:34

thing that we did. But they'd sprinkle.

9:36

Yeah, I imagine those seven kids celebrating

9:38

all those But it would have been like the whole show would have been

9:40

like Birthday seven.

9:41

I don't know.

9:42

I think part of the reason why you you

9:45

you see these scenes like

9:47

breakfast, the breakfast table in the kitchen

9:50

that that don't come up as often later on is

9:53

because they're they're shopping, right, Like they're

9:55

shopping all these different family moments

9:57

to see which ones are the most

10:00

useful for them, and then things like the dinner

10:02

table kind of one for

10:04

our like whole family scenes,

10:07

and stuff like our living room scenes

10:09

like the living room.

10:10

Foyer where that the foyer kind of comes

10:12

into the living room.

10:13

That threshold was like a

10:17

very.

10:17

Active spot in the gathering.

10:19

Yeah, So things were constantly

10:21

and sometimes they do this thing which I always thought

10:23

was actually clever and cool. We would have

10:26

a scene going on in the living room and then someone

10:28

would come to the door and you'd have a side scene

10:30

going on in the front, and then the two scenes would like

10:32

merge. Yeah, and so they when they would do

10:34

stuff like that, I don't know, I always thought that was

10:36

like a cool, clever use of the space, you know,

10:38

the set.

10:39

Space we had.

10:39

Yeah.

10:40

But so in that first scene where

10:42

we come in at Simon.

10:45

I get my

10:47

cereal box prize, which Simon,

10:49

for some reason, as smart as

10:51

he is, is unaware that all the cereal

10:53

boxes have a prize in them, and

10:56

and so it's not a particularly special

10:58

event, but I feel so special about

11:00

it, and that's what matters. And so I get

11:02

my moon rocks out of the out

11:05

of the cereal box, and I'm convinced that it

11:07

must be lucky that I got the moon rocks,

11:09

because then, in a in a clever

11:11

little Simon way, you know,

11:13

I'm told like, hey, all the cereal boxes have

11:16

prizes in them, and I'm like, yeah, but it ended up

11:18

in my bowl.

11:19

So it's true.

11:20

The odds of you know, the whole family

11:22

not getting it that I got it made it special

11:25

and lucky. And so that kicks

11:27

off Simon's little gag for the episode, which

11:29

is which is cool.

11:30

And then of course I think Lucy is

11:32

now obviously boy crazy at this

11:34

point, so she's very excited

11:36

about.

11:37

Because now she's you know, she's a

11:40

date.

11:40

You guys are not only boy crazy, you're very openly

11:42

boy crazy. You're very very very

11:44

loud and proud about your boy craziness and how

11:46

you must be kissed immediately and

11:49

all the time exactly.

11:51

You know, you know what, I don't think I

11:53

recognized what this setup

11:56

of these like. It's very clear to me now, like,

11:59

now how Lucy ended up being how Lucy

12:01

was because it was clearly set up in the first

12:03

few episodes, and here I was like, I'm like, why

12:06

is Lucy always kissing people? I'm like, oh,

12:08

well, because we set her up as like a crazy,

12:11

hormonal.

12:12

Very harm she is

12:14

a very hormonal tea.

12:18

Yes, And we're all talking about Grandma

12:20

and Grandpa coming into town because

12:23

all of the younger Camden kids are still

12:25

unaware that Grandma.

12:27

Is only Matt knows at this point,

12:29

right, right, and they come with gifts as

12:31

grandparents.

12:32

Well, we haven't gotten there yet. We haven't

12:34

gotten there yet.

12:35

We know that they're supposed to come.

12:36

Oh oh, big, big moment for

12:38

you too.

12:39

Yeah, that's right, you're

12:42

right.

12:42

And obviously another big lasting

12:44

impact kind of thing is that Simon gets

12:46

his bunk bed dream. They

12:49

set up that Simon's been pushing for bunk beds

12:51

for a long time, and then I'm really

12:53

excited until I find out that

12:56

my my bunk mate

12:58

is going to be Ruth and

13:00

not I don't know, Matt, like you,

13:03

I thought maybe would decide to bunk with

13:05

me at the young age of twenty

13:07

five sixteen, So

13:09

then I'm like, my

13:12

my dream becomes a nightmare. I don't know how

13:14

that, you know, like I get

13:16

what I want, but not the way I want, and it's it's

13:19

you know, it's a gift and

13:21

a curse. And then we immediately

13:24

as we go into the room, the bunk beds are there,

13:26

so we skip the set up in the whole the.

13:29

Actually the building.

13:30

Yeah, really like

13:34

buying the bunk.

13:35

Beds, dragging them up the stairs, pulling

13:37

out the allen keys, setting the damn

13:40

thing up, like all the stuff that would

13:42

actually happen and take up most of the day.

13:45

He already did it because exactly.

13:48

Annie did it when no one was

13:49

looking.

13:51

While we were eating breakfast. Annie was putting

13:53

together them.

13:54

Up the stairs because Annie is a boss.

13:57

That's right, I mean, welcome to television.

13:59

Yeah, just things just happen.

14:01

Then what happens.

14:02

Yeah, and the news that.

14:04

Grandma and Grandpa are actually not going to come they're.

14:06

Supposed to come in, that's right.

14:07

And then they canceled. They canceled suspiciously

14:10

and and without reason or

14:13

warning, right.

14:14

Which is very distressing

14:16

to Annie because now.

14:18

She's very worried about why.

14:21

Eric suggests that she should just

14:24

fly to Arizona.

14:25

Yeah, like you do, Yeah, like you do decide

14:28

during breakfast to go to Arizona

14:31

for the afternoon.

14:33

I mean as you could in

14:36

California.

14:36

Yeah, especially there's so many great areas.

14:38

This was still the era where we weren't like California

14:42

though, Like in the beginning, wasn't it

14:44

that we were like not that we were specifically

14:47

trying not to be California, but we were.

14:50

It wasn't stated at

14:53

any time that we were a California.

14:56

Until they saw all the palm trees.

14:58

It eventually became kind of suburban

15:00

California.

15:01

So if they do, at one point call out Third Street,

15:04

I guess you have Third Street.

15:05

And I know, I just as I said it.

15:07

I just realized that that was a dumb statement to

15:09

scrap that there's a third

15:11

Street in every single town in all

15:14

of America. So I'm okay,

15:16

yeah.

15:16

Let's move on. What happens next? Should

15:19

we take a break, Yeah, let's take a break.

15:21

We'll we'll be right back.

15:27

Be back.

15:28

I got my coffee.

15:30

You guys already O yours?

15:32

Yeah, yours the whole time, drink

15:35

yours, drank mine. Okay, all right, well

15:37

now this is.

15:37

My second coffee. This is that cold brew that brewed

15:39

in the car all day yesterday.

15:44

I left it in the car.

15:45

So I left in the car all day and.

15:46

Then she went to the fridge this morning and was like, where

15:49

is my cold brew? And then when

15:52

I went out for coffee, I found it.

15:54

We'll find out if it actually happened.

15:55

So you went and got the cold coffee.

15:57

You're calling it cold brew.

16:00

In the car because it's in the car, and you're

16:02

like, and.

16:03

That's your copy too.

16:04

Okay, let's right, circle back, everybody

16:07

circle places, circling back, circle

16:09

back.

16:09

We're coming back.

16:10

We're into episode three and we are

16:12

chatting about bunk beds.

16:15

Jared told us, Oh yeah.

16:16

Okay, so we got bunk beds. We set them

16:18

up, and Simon's mad.

16:19

I can't believe it.

16:20

Well because Ruthie also starts, so

16:23

well, I move all of my stuff in and I basically

16:25

take over the entire You start.

16:26

Moving your stuff in is the cutest thing ever, by

16:29

the way.

16:29

You just you come in with like some

16:31

dolls and and you're and you're

16:33

starting to set your dolls up and it's just

16:36

it's perfect for your And

16:38

I'm like mortified, right that

16:40

You're like moving in all your your army

16:42

of dolls.

16:43

Into the room, and it's so

16:45

cute.

16:46

It's it is adorable, isn't like you

16:48

line them up? I think you have a line where you said,

16:50

then all the eyeballs.

16:51

Yeah, they're staring at me, and you're

16:53

like, they can't help it.

16:55

It's really cute.

16:56

But it was because I think at one point

16:59

you even say, like put in the closet, and

17:01

you say, I.

17:02

Think that they would breathe

17:04

a little to breathe in there, And then I mentioned

17:06

who he also, this is

17:08

who he's first appearance, and apparently

17:11

who he helps unload luggage at the airport

17:13

sometimes, so he's not always around.

17:15

I forgot about who your imaginary friend.

17:17

So that the weirdest reference

17:20

so far on the show, I

17:23

think easily is adult

17:25

teenagers are arguing about.

17:28

Who goes with Wait, let's be clear

17:30

on which teenagers you're talking about.

17:31

You're talking about Mary, the ones.

17:34

The ones who were actually adults. I

17:36

was clear.

17:36

I was perfectly clear the adult teenagers

17:42

that one over and

17:45

her adult teenager boyfriend are

17:47

arguing about if they're going to go to

17:50

see a movie or something, and and the

17:52

movie that comes up, which

17:55

is the nineties gem if you're not old

17:57

to notice or remember, it's

18:02

so awkward and strange that like, that's the

18:04

choice. I think, given the context

18:06

of the show, is

18:08

it though it's it's.

18:10

Kind of weird.

18:11

I think given the well there we mentioned

18:13

it a lot throughout the whole episode, a lot of

18:15

emphasis.

18:16

I was just I just when I saw it, I was like dumbfounded.

18:19

I was like, why did they just shout out strip

18:21

tease?

18:21

It could have been maybe, yeah, it.

18:23

Could have been any movie.

18:25

Well, the whole point was it was R and

18:27

it was racy.

18:28

It was like, but given the

18:31

R rated movies throughout

18:33

these very episodes, the fact

18:36

that the name drop is stripped teas is just

18:38

like a little like, ugh, it's weird.

18:40

No, wait, Mary

18:42

is what if Matt's supposed to be sixteen,

18:45

Mary is supposed to be fifteen?

18:48

Teen?

18:48

Right, going to see strip tees right

18:51

on a date?

18:52

Right, Matt, Matt, Matt

18:54

sixteen, Matt's sixteen, and

18:57

Mary and Matt's friend is also sixteen.

19:00

Mary is fourteen? Right, okay,

19:02

yeah, and so they're like, we go see

19:04

strip teas.

19:05

He's like already saw.

19:06

It doesn't make sense

19:08

because Matt is also a soft as a

19:11

junior, not a sophomore. I'm just saying

19:13

that the mask doesn't quite work out. Maybe

19:15

magic yeah, sure, yeah.

19:17

I mean I okay, they're not

19:19

six They're clearly not sixteen.

19:21

But right.

19:22

And then so after this whole Strip

19:24

Teas situation, then we

19:27

skipped to I think I.

19:29

Have an answer to why that was used. What

19:32

I expect to be a huge hit based on

19:34

the release date is when the scripts were written.

19:36

So they're like, well, we need a movie, so they put

19:38

that in.

19:39

And by the time Strip Strip

19:41

Teas was was the Demi Moore strip

19:43

movie.

19:44

It was the Demi Moore led film.

19:46

I think they were overshooting how much

19:49

they thought teenage high school boys

19:51

would come out.

19:53

To the theater.

19:54

I mean, were

19:56

we I wonder if we were part of their promotional

19:59

camping.

20:01

Maybe maybe there was some ad

20:04

dollars.

20:04

Yeah, I don't know, it's it was. It

20:06

seemed like a very odd choice to

20:09

me.

20:09

So in the next scene, we

20:12

have Lucy is

20:14

going to have a date with Jimmy Moon and

20:16

Eric has intentions

20:18

on probably or Lucy's

20:21

concerned about Eric ruining the date because

20:23

obviously he has a reputation.

20:25

For doing so.

20:26

He has a history of ruining

20:28

dates right and

20:31

rebels in it like I.

20:33

Mean that like most would, I mean,

20:35

I would imagine.

20:37

I mean, yeah, it's one of those

20:39

stereotypical dad things that like, haha,

20:41

I'm gonna my

20:43

daughter's date.

20:45

I guess, well, I mean, I don't think he's

20:47

eager to have Lucy be dating

20:49

so fair.

20:51

But allows it so he

20:53

could.

20:54

Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying.

20:56

I guess, you know, I don't know, it's just it's

20:58

I think it's one of those it's a stereotypical

21:01

dad.

21:02

Thing that seems silly.

21:03

Well, and I think it's like when you have a daughter and everyone's

21:06

like, you're going to be in trouble, and I'm

21:08

like her, you.

21:10

Know, like I haven't heard it before.

21:13

Yeah, it just says it's one of those things that everyone

21:15

like brags about but doesn't seem like

21:18

bragworthy.

21:19

Yeah, you know, well we have so

21:21

And I think also at this point,

21:24

Lucy thinks that she's got it onder

21:26

control because Annie's supposed to help her out.

21:28

But everything changes with Annie

21:31

having to go to Arizona

21:33

and now Dad is back in the mix, which is

21:36

a no bueno.

21:37

That's right, and that Annie going

21:39

to Arizona flip flops.

21:41

The plan flip flops everything. I mean, Annie

21:43

going to Arizona.

21:44

Is like is the monkey wrench?

21:46

Yeah?

21:46

Because also that also means that we're also

21:48

going to have to eat Dad's food, and Ruthy

21:51

is clearly spoken

21:53

about her opinion of said food.

21:55

Yeah. Yeah, Ruthy's a foodie

21:57

from a very young age. Realize

22:00

that.

22:00

But then I.

22:02

Actually think that pays off really well though. But

22:04

the Dad's bad food joke I think

22:06

has a great payoff.

22:07

Okay comes next?

22:11

Oh yeah, because Lucy does what younger

22:14

sisters absolutely do, is

22:16

she threatens because she

22:18

wants Mary to help like

22:22

keep Dad away from Jimmy Moon

22:24

and her. And when Mary says no because

22:27

she's got a date with Jeff, Lucy's

22:29

going to be the narc and tell everyone

22:32

that she's going to see an R rated movie

22:35

strip.

22:36

There's actually some really weird

22:39

and complicated like politicking

22:42

between you and.

22:43

Mary in this episode. Like you

22:45

guys are like.

22:46

Frenemies the whole time, Like

22:49

you're asking each other for support

22:51

and help on your date schemes,

22:54

but then you also like backstab each

22:56

other like multiple.

22:57

Times, really pretty

23:00

typical with.

23:02

The knife behind the back thing that is

23:04

like really intense between you guys

23:07

early on.

23:08

Yeah, I mean I think that was

23:10

like the that was.

23:12

It's the goal.

23:13

It's the goal of it description of our

23:15

relationship throughout the entire show.

23:17

Sure, I guess it sets it up clearly.

23:20

Yeah.

23:21

Yeah, it clearly sets you guys up to be

23:23

like that. So but

23:25

I was struck by how like ruthless

23:29

it is, you know, like you guys

23:31

like that.

23:32

Is girls, teenage girls.

23:34

It is very funny and yeah,

23:38

and disturbing.

23:38

After Lucy threatens to like tell on

23:42

Mary about the date, like

23:44

you just said, like actually, then Mary does

23:47

the good thing and breaks off the date

23:49

with Jeff so that she could be the good sister.

23:51

Right, which kind of backfires on her.

23:54

Right He gets upset about it.

23:56

Oh yeah, he does get upset and acts like,

23:58

by the way, acts kind of like a jerm because

24:00

she's like trying to like stand

24:02

up for a sister and.

24:03

He's like, well, you should have told me sooner.

24:05

Yeah.

24:05

Definitely, he does act like a jerk, but it's

24:07

not long lived because then he

24:09

he becomes.

24:10

Like which is so seventh Heaven.

24:13

I guess yeah, he just he wants to go.

24:14

To the party, right, Yeah, he.

24:16

Wants to go to the party, and he's being a jerk about it. But

24:18

then as the episode progresses, he becomes.

24:21

Like really needy and sad

24:24

boy about it.

24:24

Yeah, so it's like and he already saw strip

24:27

tease.

24:28

And he already saw some strip teas

24:30

twice, so you know it's not going to go

24:32

for a third time. So

24:35

after that, then we get a

24:38

little vignette of Eric unpacking

24:40

groceries, totally normal thing for dad

24:42

to do. He he sticks chips

24:45

up in a dish cabinet. I don't know, it's kind

24:48

of strange that where things end up going.

24:50

But then he realizes something and runs

24:52

to the car to find her got something. Ruthie

24:55

sitting in the car, knowingly that

24:57

she was gonna be left in

25:00

a car.

25:01

It's a good thing we haven't established that it's California

25:03

yet.

25:08

My biggest fear is like,

25:10

like, like, you can't even leave a kid.

25:12

Like I watched that episode and I

25:14

was like, oh my god, what if I ever? What if what

25:16

if it happens to me? If it happened to Eric,

25:19

it could happen to me, you know, like,

25:21

gosh, oh.

25:22

My gosh, but it's like so scary. I don't know, but I

25:24

love that You're like, mom never does

25:26

this.

25:27

It's very cute.

25:29

But there isn't a bead of sweat on my forehead

25:31

either, so it must have been win.

25:33

No, they weren't trying to make it like life

25:35

threatening. It was

25:37

just supposed to be a cute joke.

25:39

It was, but don't

25:42

leave kids in the car.

25:43

It sent my brain into a tailspin

25:45

after I saw that.

25:47

That's just.

25:49

Absolutely yeah.

25:51

And it's just supposed to set up that Eric

25:54

as the as the pastor patriarch

25:57

of the family, is not the

26:00

one who runs the household.

26:01

Right, Yeah, he's definitely not the multitasker.

26:03

Yeah.

26:03

I just I really like Ruthy's outfit in without

26:06

Annie.

26:06

That falls apart a little bit. That's

26:09

the the gag.

26:10

Yeah, parents,

26:14

No, I mean one kid,

26:16

so I can't imagine leaving her in the

26:18

car, like, like, I only got

26:20

one kid to worry. But I don't know

26:22

how if you had more kids would be you'd be more

26:24

likely to do it either.

26:25

I don't know.

26:26

It seems well luckily

26:29

the kid we I do have to say, and

26:32

it sounds so silly, but I definitely count

26:35

how many.

26:35

Times do you forget things in the house. I

26:38

had to exit the house at least four times

26:41

when I'm like taking my kids somewhere and like

26:43

run, you know, back and forth, back and forth. Oh

26:46

it's not the kid, I just forget everything else basically.

26:49

Oh yeah, I mean that's but

26:51

it's also because you have so much.

26:53

But that's because all your other stuff doesn't follow

26:55

you around all day, Like my kids

26:57

follows me around and I couldn't leave her

26:59

anywhere if I tried, you know.

27:01

And while we fill up on coffee, you're

27:03

gonna fill up on some ads. See ya.

27:09

Well, I mean I think I'm constantly chasing

27:12

you around trying to give you your stuff, like

27:14

your wallet or your ATM.

27:16

Card or your hat.

27:17

Be like Mac put this all in the same space.

27:20

Yeah, And both both of those things were

27:22

individually misplaced. In the week before

27:24

coming here, I found I found my ATM

27:27

card like a couple hours before in

27:29

a bag of stuff that I had like taken

27:32

out of the car. The wallet was a separate find.

27:35

Also, if so, here's

27:37

it. We're just gonna go on a

27:39

tangent.

27:39

But you okay, we're after this tangible.

27:42

I'm doing it. You lose stuff all the time.

27:44

So when you lose stuff, is it just for like, oh

27:46

you lose things for a few minutes or whatever. Because

27:49

I'm the kind of person who never loses my things.

27:51

I always put my things in the same place. But

27:54

when I do lose something, I'm it's

27:56

hopelessly lost. For like, it ruins

27:58

the whole day. I can't find it all day long, Like

28:00

I never lose something and then like, oh it's so right

28:02

here, you know what I mean.

28:04

But I lose something, I'm like.

28:05

I lose things like multiple times a day,

28:08

like like phones is

28:10

that but quick though?

28:12

Right? Quick recovery.

28:13

Yeah, it depends on how I lose

28:15

it until I need it again, and then I bothered

28:17

to look for it. Actually,

28:19

I just adapt

28:21

an I can I use Can I use

28:23

my phone to pay for something?

28:24

All right?

28:25

Well, I don't need to find my ATM card until

28:27

I go to a place where I think I maybe can't

28:29

do that.

28:30

But I do have to say.

28:31

There was one time I was out with mac and she

28:33

was like paid with cash and I was like, oh, wow,

28:36

you why you pay with cash?

28:38

And she's like, well, I have to because.

28:39

I don't know where my ATM card is or my credit card.

28:42

So I always have to have cash so that way, and

28:44

I was like what and

28:46

then.

28:46

But then you found it.

28:49

Here's what I do have to say, though, I'm so proud

28:51

of her is because she's prepared

28:53

for.

28:54

Like for the event she loses

28:56

her her career. Yeah, I don't

28:58

know, it's I love.

28:59

That love that I

29:02

if I lose stuff, I'm crude.

29:04

You know.

29:05

I'm used to like acting on the backup

29:07

plan and the backup, backup plan, and I

29:10

like this.

29:12

All right, all right, we got off and we are

29:14

coming back. We are back to episode

29:16

three.

29:17

Do you lose your stuff off?

29:19

Okay, So

29:22

next we actually go back to school

29:24

and we see Mary's coming to the car

29:27

and he is making out like he's

29:29

got hot and heavy with We're having

29:32

this very interesting.

29:35

It's one adult teenager making

29:37

out with another adult teenager. It's

29:39

very strange to me because

29:41

none of them look like they've

29:44

seen a high school in a decade.

29:47

But I don't

29:49

know. And it's not our show.

29:51

It's not like a thing.

29:52

It's not a knock against our show, because all shows

29:54

back then, like they would always

29:56

I remember as an actor being frustrated

30:00

when I was doing team with more teenage

30:02

stuff and trying to get other stuff, knowing

30:04

that those jobs were going to people

30:07

in the twenties and sometimes as

30:09

old as thirty playing the part

30:11

that was my age.

30:12

Yeah, and had that same thing then.

30:14

When I was in my twenties, going

30:16

Haha, now I'm going to get all of those

30:18

high school like sexy, cool

30:21

roles and stuff, and then they were like the industry

30:23

decided then and there that they

30:25

were going to cast age appropriate from now

30:27

on.

30:28

That's the same thing I mean like, but I also

30:31

feel like the fact that

30:33

you know, actual high school kids watching

30:36

what's supposed to look like high school kids on TV

30:38

that actually look older really sort of just encouraged

30:41

real high school kids to try to look older than they

30:43

were because they wanted

30:46

to look like the high school kids on TV who were actually,

30:48

you know, in their twenties. So it's sort of

30:50

like kind of I think pushed

30:53

a generation of kids to both dress

30:55

and act and look older than they actually were,

30:58

because you know, a lot of time you're modeling

31:01

things after people that you see on TV,

31:03

and I would try to go out

31:06

for roles that were my age and they're like,

31:08

no, you look too young. You look too young.

31:09

You're too young?

31:10

Yeah, oh I know.

31:11

And it was also beyond that because I didn't actually

31:13

really look sixteen quite when I was being

31:15

short didn't help.

31:16

But no, I guess that's but it's also typical

31:18

for actors to look a few years younger than

31:20

they are. It's it's part of the

31:23

But if your industry's kind of youth biased,

31:25

you're you know, like.

31:26

Say you're a sixteen year old and you're watching

31:28

and you think that, like, you

31:30

know, Matt and Matt's girlfriend are

31:33

sixteen, You're like, man, what's wrong with me? Like,

31:35

I don't you know, can.

31:36

We just talk to make about like her makeout session

31:39

and her like blowing the kiss

31:41

and I love there's very like Jesse

31:44

like totally like pushes her head back to

31:46

get out of the way of imaginary

31:49

kiss that is going across the car.

31:51

Who framed Roger Rabbit Flapper

31:54

in the face. There's an

31:57

old one. That's a good movie.

31:58

Oh my god. Yeah.

32:00

So then then we come back into where

32:02

Ruthie has set all of her dolls up in

32:04

her new room that she shares with Simon, and she's

32:07

stoked about and then they have a conversation.

32:09

I think about who gets the top bunk, and you

32:11

know, Simon wants it, and Ruthie can't sleep

32:13

up there because who who?

32:16

Why? Yeah, it has something

32:18

to do with WHOI right, And they have this cute little

32:20

tea part who.

32:21

He can't get up there or something like that. Well who?

32:23

He has to deliver luggage at the airport sometimes

32:25

he used to unload it.

32:27

He has, he has a day.

32:28

Jobs, a day job, a couple of jobs.

32:30

Proud of WHOI for having a job who.

32:32

He was on for many years. He

32:34

really should have gotten like he was like our credits.

32:36

My brain goes in so many weird directions to joke

32:39

about.

32:39

That's a really cute scene.

32:42

Though it is cute.

32:43

It's it's at the end of the day, it's just you

32:46

being like super cute and

32:49

moving in your army of stuff.

32:51

He's and having all of your reasons

32:53

why your imaginary friend can and can't

32:55

do things, and it's adorable and

32:57

Simon's just annoyed by it.

32:59

But he's good little brother for

33:01

even sitting down to have a tea party

33:03

with her and putting up with it in the first place. To you

33:06

sort of want something from her. Yeah,

33:10

but it was cute.

33:11

But our brotherly sisterly

33:14

dynamic, with the exception of these

33:16

two murderous sisters.

33:19

Was all pretty sweet, pretty sweet and

33:22

like solid.

33:22

It was way were nicer to each other, you

33:25

guys, my brother and I.

33:29

So then Matt comes in uh

33:31

to talk to uh Ruthie

33:34

and Simon, and.

33:36

He gives you some advice and manipulate.

33:39

He gives me advice and

33:42

says that like, do you remember my rule

33:44

of time or

33:46

something along those lines, which is about

33:48

like your age determines

33:51

up to what time in the day. You

33:54

have to take the responsibility of

33:56

whatever is going on with the brothers and sisters

33:59

with yours.

34:00

So and that's when that we said.

34:01

I'm like, ha ha, yes, but

34:03

and I was just questioning that because the episode prior

34:05

to that, I'm learning my ABC is still right.

34:10

You're easily manipulated?

34:12

Is that because you're you're five

34:14

and you have to do everything that Simon said.

34:18

But then fortunately, you know Mary,

34:21

later on, Mary's like, you know, tell

34:23

them.

34:25

It's a cute little brotherly sister

34:27

league gag that.

34:28

I'm glad they didn't try to drag out too

34:30

long because it backfires pretty.

34:32

Quickly, but yes, Simon

34:34

tries it once.

34:35

It's a few scenes and then it goes yeah,

34:37

it.

34:37

Is cute though, because you're like okay, yeah.

34:40

Which is cute.

34:41

It really worked. Yeah it awe.

34:43

Well it sells because you.

34:45

It sells because because you're so cute

34:47

and you just go okay, and it just it.

34:50

In that moment, I get.

34:52

My victory and and you

34:56

yes, and then and then we have a weird like

34:59

Asian.

34:59

Sound of effect over or bows. I don't

35:01

know.

35:01

I don't know if that's cool anymore. I

35:09

mean, clearly it's not cool anymore.

35:11

We don't know what was

35:14

his lips spark?

35:17

Oh?

35:17

Yes, this is when Lucy

35:20

and Mary have a moment and Lucy

35:22

reveals that her hopes

35:25

and dreams of her date with Jimmy Moon

35:27

will end in a kiss because his

35:30

lips my lips passion

35:32

sparks Like oh, it's.

35:33

Just she's very dramatic.

35:36

I don't know why Lucy become like

35:38

a romance novelist.

35:39

Yeah, he never should have been a

35:42

reverend.

35:42

She basically or minister

35:45

romance. Pretty saucy as

35:48

a character.

35:49

She is hormonal, that

35:51

child there was a big pause

35:53

between that was.

35:55

An aggressive separation of.

36:00

What did I say something?

36:01

Yeah? No, I didn't even realize

36:03

I said it.

36:04

You saw it?

36:05

Oh?

36:06

I said, Oh, I

36:08

don't even know.

36:09

Oh, just circling back and insert.

36:13

Foot in mouth one for bed.

36:18

Oh no, and walks right

36:20

in. Can we talk about that?

36:22

So then

36:25

s there like waiting for her.

36:27

Do you have keys to your parents place?

36:30

I can get in?

36:32

Not the answer to the question I.

36:35

Can get any size dog.

36:37

I'm just saying I tried,

36:39

I can't.

36:40

They and he shows up to her

36:42

parents' place in another state, knocks

36:44

on the front door, and then just walks right in

36:47

and like hangs out and uses the phone

36:49

and is just sitting in the room. And then they walk

36:51

into their own house that they presumably

36:53

left empty, and someone's

36:55

in there, and they're not surprised it's

36:58

Annie.

37:00

I don't know.

37:00

It seems to me strange,

37:03

you know, like somebody if I came home

37:05

and and I walked upstairs and my brother

37:08

was sitting on my couch, I'd be a little like, hey,

37:10

dude, what why

37:12

and how did you get into my house?

37:14

And why didn't you call me?

37:16

It was the nineties, and it was fine, And they

37:18

come in and they start talking.

37:19

Abody locked their door.

37:19

They talked about having

37:23

all these kind of wild adventures because it's

37:25

clearly like it's at the end of

37:27

grandma's life and she's doing

37:30

anything and everything and gat

37:33

hot air balloon. They're

37:35

gonna fly first class and come back.

37:37

They want to go to a water park.

37:40

Yes, so

37:42

we can know down where the Camdens

37:44

live. He's near Raging

37:47

Waters or well

37:49

the water park Magic wasn't

37:52

around back then.

37:53

They're soak city.

37:54

It was no they I remember when

37:56

they built it.

37:57

Harbor wasn't Harbor

38:00

wasn't around that not then that was

38:02

built in the.

38:03

Two thousand waters. Well it

38:06

was rag we can narrow. So

38:08

where were there two water parks?

38:09

And well you know what this is, make believes

38:12

so there could have.

38:12

Been need to get one of those geo guests guys,

38:15

all right.

38:15

The other one is to that are like maybe Annie

38:17

just walks in because like in the nineties and even in

38:19

the early two thousands, who didn't like text

38:22

someone ten million times to say

38:24

I'll be on, Like I call it. You

38:26

know, I'm almost there, I'm ten minutes away. I'm

38:28

coming. I'm still coming.

38:31

I'm in the door.

38:32

Like it's like, yeah, I'll see you on Thursday at too and

38:34

the week.

38:36

Let's take a break.

38:37

Sorry, Okay,

38:44

so I do have to say that one scene though

38:46

with Grandma, when with

38:48

Annie, she does say that very

38:50

poignant line saying I'll be resting

38:52

soon enough, honey, and that that was one

38:54

that like definitely like hit me because you

38:57

know, she's very clear that like the ND is

38:59

coming right.

39:00

Yeah, it's morbid and

39:03

and sweet.

39:04

So yeah, yeah in some way. But then we

39:06

skip to Eric's Fabulous

39:09

Dinner, which is a cast role which he

39:12

learned in.

39:13

I remember like seeing that on

39:15

the plate when we were filming that, and they mixed like catch

39:17

up in it, and it was absolutely most

39:20

of them. It was revolting, Yes

39:23

it was.

39:23

Yeah, they made it look gross as best they

39:25

could. But also what I loved

39:27

about the scene though, is Eric having

39:30

a great time making it and then ordering

39:33

pizza and then also having a great time

39:35

eating it, watching all of us suffer.

39:37

Because he's just chowing down, and

39:41

as.

39:41

He ducks out of the room, we

39:44

all try desperately to get

39:46

it off of our plate. Somebody dumps

39:48

it back into the cast role. Simon

39:50

immediately goes.

39:52

For Happy to eat it. Happy runs

39:55

it's just cute.

39:57

And then Eric pops

39:59

back in and says, oh, don't fill

40:01

up the pizzas coming or something like that, which I think

40:03

is actually a great payoff because he's

40:06

enjoying himself so much because he's torturing

40:08

us with his bad food and he.

40:09

Knows it and he's in on

40:11

the joke.

40:12

Yeah, yeah, which is which is cute and

40:14

and uh and I thought

40:16

worked as a as a little gag.

40:18

And then we go to Grandma

40:21

and Grandpa at the airport with Annie

40:23

that are coming back and then living

40:25

it up and spending all the money

40:27

and having the flame mignon and like,

40:30

you know, living life as a.

40:32

Spending kids inheritance. Hey.

40:35

And and then we

40:37

move on to Lucy getting ready

40:39

for Jimmy Moon, and of course

40:41

she does the absolute nineties thing, which

40:44

is the like what was it bananka?

40:46

I remember that, like that breastspray.

40:50

That was like such a strange moment because

40:53

she's getting ready for Jimmy Moon. And we opened

40:55

the door and who's there but Jimmy

40:57

Moon?

40:58

Is he?

40:58

You know, you can never just call him

41:01

Jimmy.

41:01

It was always Jimmy Moon.

41:03

Yeah, he had that was always.

41:04

Just Jimmy Moon, and as they enter,

41:07

she sees Mary walk by and

41:09

starts doing a total Lucy thing, which is

41:11

clearing her throat to get Mary's attention,

41:14

who clearly does not take any

41:16

attention to her, and gives

41:19

her a wave and a not and just coues on,

41:21

you guys are real.

41:22

About like Jimmy What about Jimmy

41:24

Moon? And he's like, what thirteen fourteen, thirteen

41:26

year old self? And he's like, I picked up this great

41:28

French film for us to watch, right.

41:31

You know see I thought that I

41:33

was like that Jimmy Moon. That's

41:36

pretty cool.

41:37

Well, it's also having

41:39

him because he says he goes, oh,

41:42

Eric says, I'll get some popcorn out

41:44

come watch it with you, and he goes, oh, no, need for that.

41:46

I have a copy.

41:47

It brought you a copy and it's like VHS.

41:49

It's a VHS that looks like it's from Hollywood

41:52

video. Maybe.

41:55

I mean I thought it was that was

41:57

pretty good. And then you've got and then you

41:59

all so have you know, while

42:02

this date is going on, you've got Mary spying

42:05

on Lucy and.

42:06

Mary and kind of jealous.

42:07

Apote is jealous.

42:09

I like your dad.

42:10

Yeah, she's want to play a song.

42:12

Yeah, she's that's what he bugged me out.

42:14

When I was watching, I was like, oh my god, the knives

42:16

are coming out.

42:17

It's so brutal. Like she goes

42:19

up there to get dad to make him ruin

42:21

the date.

42:22

Yeah, she brings the guitar.

42:23

Yeah.

42:24

Yeah, she pusts out the guitar. She's like, don't

42:26

just ruin the date? Ruin it like this?

42:28

Yeah yeah, well because that's

42:30

how the right song, that's how her date

42:33

was. And then she takes part and so

42:35

it's not only that him.

42:37

Go down together. Yeh. By the way, I didn't

42:40

realize.

42:41

I mean we we had covered early in the podcast

42:43

how how terrified I was when we did the

42:45

musical episode and I didn't want to sing. But

42:47

I didn't remember how often we seem

42:49

to sing in the show.

42:51

I mean, we're only on episode three.

42:52

I know, and there's like four numbers. It's

42:55

like four times in three episodes we

42:57

sing. It's ridiculous.

42:58

I sing a lot on the show. We haven't

43:00

even gotten there.

43:01

I don't know.

43:01

I blocked a lot of that out. I was

43:04

definitely not why, but I mean that.

43:06

My moment in life when I thought I was a

43:08

singer I think it's because of all of this. I

43:11

sang on the show and I thought I was good. It was just

43:13

it was a misconception.

43:14

I had no such misconception

43:17

about myself.

43:18

Okay, Yes, And then we

43:20

move on to again, there's a lot of making

43:22

out. Matt's makeout session

43:25

with the Bad News she was bad.

43:26

We shall have a makeout counter.

43:28

We should rewatch, Thank god we don't.

43:30

Yeah, so the Bad News

43:33

girl, because you know she and then she pulls out

43:35

a beer and somehow

43:38

the car gets put in reverse and

43:40

the meals on wheels.

43:41

Underage designated driver rolls into

43:44

a cop car.

43:44

Yes, and she takes her beer and goes and

43:47

she spills it all over him.

43:50

Yeah, Matt, it's good.

43:51

And guess what, Dunn. Matt is in

43:53

trouble because.

43:55

He hits a cop.

43:56

He's done for it.

43:57

They tried to make it.

43:58

Look like the worst

44:01

ever coincidence you've ever

44:03

seen, like he accidentally hits

44:05

someone who is a cop and in

44:07

that moment accidentally

44:10

her beer and.

44:12

It's full because she just opened it.

44:13

Because she just yet into second he put the car

44:16

drive. She opened a beer.

44:18

But then we go we come back to

44:21

when Eric and

44:24

Mary are trying to find the perfect

44:26

song in which to ruin Lucy's date,

44:28

which.

44:29

Takes them a couple of tries tunes

44:32

and then and then he comes up

44:34

on the perfect little Hodown number.

44:36

For them, and then ask Lucy does.

44:38

Lucy completely narks and tells

44:41

Eric that is up why.

44:43

Mary is singing the Hodown with

44:45

him to ruin your date?

44:46

That Lucy tells on her and says that Mary

44:49

wanted to watch Trip Teas, which she didn't do but

44:51

wanted to, but she still gets in

44:53

trouble because of wanting to apparently.

44:56

Then we go to Matt. We go back

44:58

to Matt, who's in trouble the

45:01

cops named Bob.

45:03

Well, Matt sort of got Mary out of whatever

45:05

imaginary trouble she was in for wanting to

45:07

see a movie, right, I mean like nothing

45:10

that anyone else in that show on that episode

45:12

could have done, but compared to

45:14

Matt, you know, running beer

45:17

yeah with a twenty five year old Yeah.

45:19

And then

45:22

we.

45:22

Go to Lucy and

45:24

Mary having their fight.

45:25

An underage twenty five year old right.

45:27

And the knives are out between Lucy

45:30

and Mary because they

45:33

are mad, game, set and match.

45:36

I don't know who won that one.

45:37

I don't know.

45:38

I feel like you guys knifed each other so much

45:40

in this episode that nobody won.

45:42

That's as that could be true.

45:44

Call it a draw blood.

45:47

Then everything, and you know, Grandma and Grandpa

45:49

and Annie come back, and they come back

45:52

with a load of gifts,

45:54

yes, lots of gifts and a special

45:56

gift for Simon.

45:58

There they are to make it more.

46:00

Moon ros we get more moon rocks. There's a lot

46:02

of moon rocks.

46:03

There's a lot of moon rocks.

46:04

You really liked moon rocks.

46:05

I did, I think, And you know what, as

46:07

a kid, I loved like all

46:10

things space, and

46:12

so you know that to me is just a

46:14

relatable kid thing for my age

46:16

group.

46:16

I guess.

46:17

You know.

46:17

In the bedroom that you had, I noticed

46:20

like that they had all of the planetary

46:22

system pinned on the door, so

46:24

that tracks.

46:25

That's cool, I mean, And as a kid, like science

46:27

was always my favorite subject. And so

46:30

like having Simon, you

46:32

know, have all his like space

46:35

paraphernalia and stuff like that, it was all

46:37

super relatable for me.

46:39

I also love that in the next scene when Annie's

46:41

back and like basically everyone's coming to

46:43

Annie telling her, like all the trouble

46:46

that's been going on, and she's the first thing she

46:48

says is like, does everyone just fight when I'm

46:50

gone? And as a mom, I also

46:52

can completely relate to that. Or like all

46:54

hell breaks loose when I'm out of town, like

46:57

all of a sudden, it's like they're

46:59

just like a and of like wild animals

47:02

that.

47:02

All or Michael is okay.

47:04

All.

47:06

He is a he's a good manager of wild

47:09

animals.

47:09

Oh that's good. So he's keeper. He's

47:12

a zoo keeper.

47:13

I guess, yeah, I mean I think, yeah, there's

47:15

definitely some zoom keeping happening

47:18

right now.

47:18

It's true.

47:19

The family facade is held together

47:21

by stringy and as soon.

47:23

As the the the enabler

47:26

leaves, everything falls apart.

47:28

Yeah.

47:28

And then I left Grant with a literal zoo.

47:31

Yeah, well you know you have.

47:34

He's running the only farms.

47:35

And then and then we go back.

47:37

To Matt

47:39

got to take his shoes off.

47:42

He goes back to Matt, who did

47:45

travel circling back focus

47:47

people.

47:48

Focused, Right, I have a strong suit

47:50

of mine.

47:50

And on that note, we'll be right back.

47:56

And then we go back to Matt is in

47:58

trouble and the dad

48:01

of the bad news girl calls

48:03

out Eric, saying I should

48:05

have known because you're a minister's

48:07

son.

48:08

Yeah, but it's a minister's daughter who's the bad

48:10

one usually, right, isn't that the cliche?

48:12

I think, actually the preacher's daughter.

48:14

Yeah.

48:16

But then Eric gets mad. That's when Eric

48:19

kind of loses it a little bit. Is this the first

48:21

time we see Eric lose it?

48:22

I believe so.

48:24

No.

48:24

In the last episode he yelled at Matt for staying

48:26

out all night.

48:27

Remember, Oh that's true.

48:28

Yeah. I think this is going to be a repeated theme.

48:30

So Eric has anger management issues

48:32

and who's he going to talk to though.

48:34

Well, he's the man to talk to.

48:36

He does where he yells,

48:39

Yeah, he yells because he cares.

48:41

Then and then we have the sweetest

48:43

scene with Alice, who

48:45

played our Grandma, who comes in and basically

48:49

says how hard it must be for Matt

48:51

because Matt doesn't have anyone,

48:53

and how lucky Lucy and Mary are

48:56

because they have each other. And it's a

48:58

very sweet scene where all sudden the sisters

49:00

kind of realized, like, we shouldn't

49:03

be mean to each other, we should remove all knives

49:05

from each other's backs, and.

49:06

We should be It's a highlight.

49:07

See it's a very sweet scene, and there is

49:10

a very funny while we're walking

49:12

down the hallway. There's a comment

49:14

that Lucy says,

49:17

the whole family is weird, and I actually

49:19

had a little chuckle about that. I'm like, yes, because

49:21

we are. But every family is weird, every family,

49:23

Every family is.

49:24

So that was very sweet.

49:26

And then you guys have a really sweet brother

49:29

sister moment in the

49:31

bedroom when you guys are saying good.

49:33

Night, well we say we love each other.

49:34

Mm hmm, and then you say,

49:36

we don't have to do this every night.

49:38

Yeah, it is, it is. It is a very it

49:40

is a very cute scene, but.

49:41

It's it's a very sweet and

49:45

with each other.

49:46

It's so cute.

49:47

It plays, it plays great, and it's it

49:49

comes across as genuine and sweet, and

49:51

we have that great little sibling dynamic.

49:53

So at that moment in time before we know

49:56

we're too busy with our own dating

49:58

lives.

49:59

I guess, yeah, you know.

50:00

But tracking back to Grandma's scene with you, that

50:03

to me is a highlight scene and i'd and

50:05

I'd probably vote Grandma's MVP.

50:07

Yeah, I love that you do this MVP.

50:09

I love Grandma's but you

50:11

know, I think it's everyone should

50:13

get their flowers for their for doing the most

50:16

in an episode, you know what I mean, Like it's and in this

50:18

episode, it's it's about Grandma's

50:23

you know, facing mortality

50:25

and and it's something that

50:28

can be like is obviously

50:30

dark and scary and uh and difficult

50:32

to deal with in any sort of positive way.

50:35

But she does it very gracefully and with a

50:37

smile the whole time. And it's so sweet

50:39

and well done. So my

50:41

MVP for the episode.

50:43

I love that. And then we have a total

50:46

total ninety slash eighties

50:48

because I feel like this was big also in all eighties

50:50

movies.

50:51

Throwing rocks that window, throwing rocks the window.

50:54

Yeah, it's a classic one even for back then. Yes,

50:56

yeah, yeah. And so Je

50:58

playing on an old trope.

51:00

Jeff is throwing rocks at Mary's

51:02

window.

51:04

But I

51:06

was going to say, we respond to the trope

51:08

in a funny way because not only

51:10

does he get Mary's attention, but he gets

51:13

the dad's attention to like you,

51:15

you're banging rocks against the side of the house and everyone

51:17

in the house can hear.

51:18

You, but Eric.

51:20

And that's when Eric says, tell Lucy that

51:23

Jimmy Moon will give her a call.

51:25

And then gives he redeems himself and then gives.

51:28

Mary and Jeff a moment, and

51:30

then he lets.

51:31

Them have their moment on the porch. Yo, which

51:34

is sweet.

51:34

Also, is it weird that on

51:36

the exterior of the house

51:39

she opens by the way, this was

51:41

when we the exterior of our house was a location

51:44

and the interior was obviously a set.

51:46

And so the exterior of the house, she opens

51:48

the window backwards, like she opens the

51:50

top of the can.

51:51

You can do that.

51:53

And then on the inside of the house on our set,

51:56

it doesn't look like the windows.

51:57

Oh no, yeah, on the inside of the set they opened

51:59

from.

51:59

Like on the bottom, Like okay, why regular windows?

52:01

I mean that you are correct, that.

52:03

Is I don't know.

52:03

I just it was something I noticed, and I was like, do

52:06

windows do that?

52:07

They didn't do, But yes, we were not consistent,

52:10

that is correct.

52:10

I thought it was weird.

52:12

And then we have where Jeff apology actually

52:14

like apologized for being a jerk and

52:16

like recognizing that, you

52:19

know, he wasn't very nice to marry on

52:21

the front porch, and then Mary actually

52:24

admitting that the reason why she

52:26

used Lucy as an excuse

52:29

when the reality was she never

52:31

was going to be allowed to go to the party right

52:34

right.

52:35

Right right right, and that you

52:37

were a scapegoat

52:40

of course, Oliver, all.

52:44

It didn't matter at all.

52:45

Yes, And then we have the

52:48

very very sweet moment with Grandma

52:50

and Grandpa where they

52:55

kind of are having their dance

52:58

and their sweet like kind of.

53:00

Beats that are and I loved them.

53:02

Grandma and Alice were just like such beautiful

53:05

lights, like just such love

53:07

there, wonderful, like wonderful.

53:09

They're absolutely wonderful in these first few episodes

53:12

and just.

53:13

I just remember them just being so fun to

53:15

be around.

53:16

They like they definitely gave

53:18

you that Grandma Grandpa energy, like yeah, you

53:20

know those hugs and like you know, they're

53:23

just being around them on set and they

53:25

were they And then Grandma

53:28

and Matt finally have a moment because up until

53:30

this, Matt's been dealing with knowing that Grandma's

53:32

sick, but never really had that moment with

53:34

her.

53:35

Yeah, and all of the and again, incredible

53:39

work, all of these moments

53:41

with Grandma and in her her good vies

53:43

with each of us and her her imparting

53:46

her giving us

53:48

each a lesson to hold on to before she

53:50

passes is like so

53:53

sweet and.

53:54

Well done and and uh and

53:56

and.

53:56

Such quality, like

53:59

like really great example of the quality

54:01

family television we were capable of when we

54:03

were on Point back then. But

54:07

her scene with me in the bedroom, her

54:09

scene with you, her scene, her scene

54:11

with Matt, all of those scenes are just the highlight

54:13

for me, right acting wise, performance

54:16

wise.

54:16

And then Matt and Eric have their they

54:19

you know kind of they're

54:22

hug and have like they make.

54:23

Up, they make up.

54:25

And then the.

54:29

Which I didn't even remember this moment

54:31

when Grandma comes in to give

54:33

Annie a kiss. I

54:36

even had to like kind of rewatch it and be like,

54:38

wait, is this her?

54:40

Like this is the ghost moment, the

54:42

like kiss goodbye where

54:44

it's when she when Grandma says, I have

54:47

to go now, and that's when she passes.

54:49

And yeah, it comes out and they're in the

54:51

hallway and Grandpa says she's gone.

54:53

I feel like it's one of the only

54:55

times in the history of the show where we really

54:58

leaned into a super name natural

55:00

moment.

55:04

And and I think it's done again.

55:08

It kind of capstones this this amazing

55:11

performance that we get from our grandma

55:13

in this episode that it's

55:15

done. It's done quickly and

55:17

sweetly, and

55:18

uh and I loved

55:20

it, I really did. I thought I had

55:23

forgotten about it, honestly and before

55:25

I rewatched it and I went, oh, wow, did I

55:28

forgot that we had done something like that? Like it seemed

55:30

like we really leaned into the kind

55:34

of religious part

55:36

of our show, like really hard.

55:38

In that moment.

55:39

And uh, and I think it paid off.

55:41

I think it was great.

55:42

It was.

55:42

It's a very sweet moment.

55:43

And I think also that that hallway

55:46

scene when Annie runs out and

55:49

the realization that she's gone and Graham

55:51

comes out and gives her.

55:52

A hug, So it reinforces that that feeling

55:54

she had was genuine and she

55:56

she got her goodbye.

55:59

Yeah, and those instincts

56:01

sometimes, sure, there's when someone dies

56:04

or like you don't

56:06

know why, but you have that knowing that

56:09

it's that connection.

56:10

I think it's that like it's having that not all

56:13

but.

56:13

Occasionally it does happen, but that in

56:16

connection to that person, you

56:19

feel it suddenly and then and you find

56:21

out that that's that that's the moment that they

56:24

passed. It's

56:26

really sweet, and it's sweet because I don't

56:29

I feel like it's there was so much opportunity

56:31

for it to be heavy handed and

56:33

and to but it was it.

56:35

I think they did it really gracefully.

56:36

It was well, it was beautiful, it was simple, it

56:38

was clean, it was heartfelt,

56:41

and it was meaningful.

56:42

And I think also I think this.

56:44

Is part of like what

56:47

was part of our success is the ability

56:50

to have these heavy moments

56:53

that people could.

56:54

It was a great way to like just definitely

56:57

navigate difficult things.

56:59

Okay, so the nine These Fashion Award

57:01

goes to either Eric

57:04

and his Beeper belt, which I mean that's gonna

57:06

be every episode, or Jimmy

57:08

Moon and his rugby shirt.

57:11

For me, it's the beeper belt just because I

57:13

have memories of beepers

57:16

from the nineties, Like I remember.

57:18

The beeper era beeper belts.

57:19

But I don't have me Stevens

57:22

peeper and Eric's pieper remember they

57:24

switch it out and

57:28

they like would switch the beeper.

57:31

I mean, beepers are just like so nineties. I

57:33

had a beeper, I remember, like I remember

57:35

beeper code, like pager code

57:38

three.

57:39

One four three, guys, I love you.

57:41

I never had a beeper, but but I started

57:44

off with the cell phone early in the cell phone

57:46

era.

57:47

When did you get a cell phone? Do you remember?

57:49

I'm assuming my first cell phone was those

57:51

early Nokias because everyone had

57:53

those. Those were the cell phones that

57:55

that you got as a kid back then. And

57:58

I know at some point, like when Ki has

58:00

jumped the Shark, I had like my now Kio fully

58:03

motted with, like I had the light

58:05

light up battery pack in the custom

58:07

antenna piece and the what.

58:08

It like exactly.

58:10

You swapped out all the parts for it.

58:14

So are we giving the award to

58:17

to me?

58:18

It's the beeper because I don't have particular

58:20

memories of the rugby thing like

58:22

that wasn't on my radar as a kid.

58:24

But it's on you.

58:25

Guys, and the winner is Eric

58:28

with the beeper belt. All right, okay,

58:31

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