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prosecutor writer producer of Criminal Minds which

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Today I'm Paramount Blush

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Season seventeen. Years. And

1:42

the it's. Unbelievable! Such a popular

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1:47

Haig's former state and Federal

1:49

prosecutor and I'm executive producer

1:51

of the Audible Series Invisible

1:53

Life and Death on The

1:55

Reservation which was submitted I

1:57

can't call nominated submitted by.

2:00

Audible for a Pulitzer Prize. We did

2:02

not get the Pulitzer Prize, sadly, but

2:04

it did bring attention to the

2:07

just perils of life and death on

2:10

a specific Wind River Indian reservation for

2:12

a couple of young women. And if

2:14

you haven't listened to that Audible

2:17

series, I suggest that you go

2:19

and check it out. It's

2:21

pretty incredible. We talked to

2:23

the girl's mother, and so I'm

2:25

very proud of that project, Pulitzer or not

2:27

Jim. Right, absolutely. And you

2:30

should be. So today we're going to talk

2:32

about something that, well, nobody

2:34

should be proud of. It's

2:36

a horrific thing, and I've just

2:38

heard about it, but I'm

2:40

going to actually view it right here live,

2:43

right in front of everybody. And that

2:46

this particular case we're talking

2:48

about today has something in common with the

2:50

last two episodes that we've done here, best

2:52

case, worst case on the

2:54

terrible New Jersey case of the father

2:56

who after what looked

3:00

like trying to run his six year old son to

3:02

death on a treadmill, then brought him

3:04

into an ER and he'd been beaten to death and

3:06

the father's on trial for it. And the

3:09

video component of that, which is

3:11

of course unusual to have in

3:14

lots of cases, the video component

3:16

is something that comes up now

3:18

and then in trials and makes,

3:21

I mean, of course, in things

3:23

like child sexual abuse images cases,

3:26

critical to watch, but somehow it's

3:28

so much more visceral when we

3:30

see an image of either the

3:32

offense, you know, pre-offense

3:34

behavior or something like with this

3:37

case of the father in New Jersey, a little

3:39

six year old Cory, you know, we get

3:41

a sense of abuse. And I think that

3:44

is so difficult to deal with. And that's

3:46

exactly what I want you to see today.

3:48

So let me set up just a little

3:50

bit before you watch it, Jim. It's not

3:52

very long, it'll only be a few seconds,

3:54

but everyone

3:57

knows who Sean Puff Daddy

3:59

did. Combs is

4:02

Puffy now, I guess he goes. No, I think it's

4:04

Diddy now. But anyway, he used to

4:06

be you were running through his Iran

4:09

through all his names that I

4:11

know so for a long time. He was a

4:13

music guy then he was kind of a Fashion

4:17

mogul and he's just

4:19

a really successful

4:23

Entrepreneur kind of type of

4:25

person but looking back on it

4:27

now it appears there were lots of rumors of bad

4:30

behavior And he is being investigated

4:32

remember we talked about it just a few weeks

4:34

ago on this podcast He's being

4:36

investigated by the United

4:38

States government US Attorney's Office in the

4:40

Southern District of New York where Jim

4:42

used to you know, apply your FBI trade

4:44

in the Southern District of New York and

4:49

He's being investigated for what looks like

4:52

Sex trafficking of women

4:55

maybe girls We

4:57

we haven't seen an indictment yet that I'm

4:59

aware of there been some search warrants executed

5:01

at a couple of his houses And

5:04

so information has been leaking out We

5:06

also know a little bit about the

5:08

allegations that we think may be coming

5:10

Jim because of some civil lawsuits That

5:13

were filed in New York and

5:15

LA I think but definitely New York about

5:18

some serious abuse between

5:22

her by Diddy on a

5:25

long term like a 10 year long

5:27

girlfriend and That

5:29

woman filed a lawsuit and

5:32

Diddy settled that lawsuit which

5:34

alleged some very serious physical

5:37

and mental and emotional abuse

5:40

the day after she filed a lawsuit,

5:42

which is certainly Suggestive

5:46

While I think they were probably nda's

5:48

signed. We know nda's are in the

5:50

news right now There's nothing illegal about

5:52

an NDA, but It appears

5:54

he settled and she's not talking much

5:56

anymore. And So enter this video. Wow

6:00

that has been put our i

6:02

Think by Cnn just today and

6:04

cm it involves Getty and that

6:06

woman and at a hotel and

6:08

I want you to watch it

6:10

right now. Will give everyone a Williams

6:12

person. I'm single. Day.

6:16

I'm seeing a hallway with abuse against

6:18

these and looks like city running down

6:20

like naked with a towel around for.

6:23

Holding a towel around his waist, Oh.

6:26

My God girlfriends seemingly go away

6:28

at all or even some tell

6:30

him it's going to buy the

6:32

here throws lives around the kitchen

6:34

and tix or again grabs your

6:37

bags and then in rags her

6:39

bath. Max the last until You

6:41

Are Going To Stop this right

6:43

now. Pretty. Have to tell

6:45

you that this is. With

6:47

it. But the. Running down the hall,

6:49

this. This. Is something that. Tells.

6:54

Me that either. See tried while he

6:56

was taking a shower. To.

6:59

Are. Getting dressed, To leave

7:01

him and he is stopping that

7:03

from happening. He a

7:06

mean it was unbelievable. The intensity with which

7:08

he grabbed her and yanked during slammed down

7:10

to the ground. And then kicked her

7:12

again and again. This is

7:14

our bloody murder writing her way. It's

7:17

very brutal, but this Arab or it

7:19

on this reminds me of. Other.

7:21

Situations I've I have witnessed in

7:23

my my own life. I had

7:25

a neighbor at one point. That

7:28

that they were from a foreign country

7:30

somewhere in Africa and. And.

7:32

Ah, either. Very quiet. I barely

7:34

ever saw them, but one time

7:37

I happen to be driving. Like.

7:40

Home and it was early in the morning

7:42

because I have been working basically overnight on

7:44

a on Criminal Minds suit. And.

7:47

And. I saw this woman. Wearing

7:49

her two little kids out the front

7:51

door and into the car was parked

7:53

on the street. And it's

7:55

very busy. Streets are you going by? You

7:58

know, thirty five miles an hour base. But

8:01

in the time I saw her do

8:03

that, I saw her, what

8:05

I appear, what I assumed to be

8:07

her husband, come running out with a

8:09

towel wrapped around his waist, just like

8:11

did he just did in this, and

8:14

literally grab onto her and

8:17

walk her back into the house. And

8:20

she had to turn and tell the kids to

8:22

get out of the car. And they got out

8:24

of the car and went back into the house.

8:26

I mean, it was amazing how, I mean, it

8:28

just like made the hair stand up on the

8:30

back of my neck when I just saw this,

8:32

because that's exactly what happened.

8:35

And I believed at that time that

8:37

she was trying to get away from

8:39

him. And unfortunately, they moved

8:41

just in a number of days after

8:43

that incident, they moved out of that

8:45

house. And I

8:48

have no idea what happened to them. But

8:51

this is unbelievable. Well

8:54

it's incredibly violent. Here's

8:57

what's interesting about that, Jim.

9:00

There's another part to it too, that you

9:03

can, that it's a running around on

9:05

social media that you can see a

9:08

different angle where Diddy is throwing

9:11

a couple of vases

9:13

that are sitting in a little anteroom

9:15

to that hotel lot, that elevator lobby,

9:18

where you can't see her, you can

9:20

only see him. He sits

9:22

down in a towel and there's like this

9:24

incredible, I don't know how to describe it, disdain

9:27

in his movements as he sits down

9:29

on this table, grabs one vase and

9:31

throws it at her, grabs the other

9:34

vase and throws it at her. We

9:36

don't see anything else. Those are the

9:38

only clips that I have seen him

9:40

running down the hallway, then into

9:43

the elevator lobby, where she's, I think holding

9:45

an animal. Like I think it looks to

9:47

me like it might be a pet carry

9:49

case for a dog, but it could just

9:52

be a suitcase. I can't tell. But it

9:54

looks like a pet carry case and

9:57

some Other bag, like a purse or something. And

9:59

He just literally. The Rose heard of

10:01

the ground and grabs whatever that eighth

10:03

is and starts to walk weight than

10:05

takes her a couple of times when

10:07

she is down and barely moving and

10:09

then drags her like you said and

10:12

picks up the case himself as as

10:14

he's going take all of it. The.

10:16

Case and her as if she's laundry

10:18

back to the room. And the interesting

10:21

thing about this? Him. Or

10:23

the significant thing is when you

10:25

read Kathy's lawsuit against city that

10:27

she filed a year ago or

10:29

so that was settled. Or just

10:31

a few months ago. I think

10:34

now that she settled that, he

10:36

settled very quickly. This incident. Was.

10:38

Described. In

10:40

almost perfect detail and so what

10:43

is written down in black and

10:45

white. It's a very different experience

10:47

for anyone who's reading a complaint

10:49

like that is as allegations and

10:52

at the time did he and

10:54

his whole team came out and

10:56

denied every single worked. In

10:58

allegation they said she was lying, it

11:01

was all made up like it was.

11:03

None of that was true as it

11:05

wasn't the only allegation the last year

11:07

at me see our alleged being trafficked

11:09

and sexually assaulted and forced to do.

11:12

Other things by Diddy with

11:14

others and now we find

11:17

out. Through. This video

11:19

that was taken in I think

11:21

it was twenty sixteen and a

11:23

Los Angeles hotel. We find out

11:26

they kathy was telling the literal.

11:28

Truth Bruce other about the incident

11:30

find so see underplayed. I mean

11:32

yes it is is so almost

11:34

on of know sanitize. Been this

11:36

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11:38

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13:01

after running

13:03

down the hall, turning the corner, grabbing her by the

13:05

head and hair and slamming her to the ground and

13:07

then kicking her and then going and picking up the

13:10

bags and then kicking her again as he's

13:12

walking by clearly talking to her. He

13:15

walks back out when he goes back and sits on

13:17

those chairs. He sits with his

13:19

legs spread far apart.

13:22

It's really a power move. It isn't

13:24

at all some kind of conciliatory thing

13:26

like, oh, I messed up. Oh, I'm

13:28

sorry. He was definitely asserting power by

13:30

doing that like just stamping his feet

13:32

down, you know, three and a half

13:34

feet apart to make it look

13:36

like he is the tough guy. He is the man.

13:39

That is such it's unbelievable

13:41

how violent he is. And

13:44

he's been able to get away with this for

13:47

a long time. The other

13:49

thing is that when I

13:51

worked with the FBI in Washington, DC,

13:53

I worked on a task force, a

13:56

major crimes task force with the Metropolitan

13:58

Police Department. Washington

14:00

DC's Police Department, which you know

14:03

DC is not part of

14:05

a state, so everything gets

14:07

prosecuted in the federal

14:10

courts. But I

14:12

remember one of the detectives that I was

14:14

working with had a picture of Puff Daddy

14:18

on his little wall by his desk

14:20

and I asked him about it. He said,

14:22

oh that's when I arrested him

14:25

for brandishing a firearm

14:27

at Howard University when

14:29

he was going to school there. And

14:31

I said, what do you mean? He said he pulled a gun on one

14:33

of the other students at Howard. Now

14:37

I don't know if that record still exists

14:39

or if it was expunged, but I'm telling

14:41

you what the detective told me. That

14:44

means that he's been doing

14:47

violent things at

14:49

least since he was in college. That's a

14:51

long time ago and

14:53

so getting away with it all this

14:56

time, I can believe totally that he's

14:58

so emboldened that there's

15:00

no way that he feels

15:02

like he's ever gonna get caught. And you

15:04

know even in the articles that

15:07

follow this video from CNN, it

15:09

shows his statement about how people

15:11

are assassinating his character

15:13

and making up lies and total

15:16

untruths about him. Well clearly this

15:19

speaks volumes and I

15:21

tell you Francie, I mean

15:23

it's a side note to this

15:25

but it's still ditty. I'm

15:27

really disturbed by the videos that

15:30

I see with interactions

15:33

between ditty and people

15:35

like Justin Bieber. I mean

15:38

Bieber is such an innocent 13 or 15 year old and

15:40

ditty is

15:45

what looks like grooming him. It

15:47

does look like grooming. It's offering him a Ferrari

15:51

and all these connections and

15:53

the best times any teenager could ever

15:56

want and then you

15:58

see later videos of of

16:00

Bieber with Diddy and You

16:03

know some of them like one in the club that

16:05

looks very like

16:09

Sexualized behavior and then another

16:11

one where Diddy's like, hey How come you're

16:13

not hanging out with me anymore and Bieber

16:15

is very uncomfortable and he he's

16:17

trying to sort of backpedal and say well You know,

16:20

I guess you're people are talking to my people and

16:22

we haven't done anything but

16:24

it's just It

16:27

really bothers me. Yeah, it looks like he is a

16:31

He is definitely all about

16:33

power and what I find

16:35

I mean, let's set aside

16:37

the actual physical assault, which

16:39

is obviously the whole You

16:42

know criminal part of this But let's set

16:45

that aside for a second and just talk

16:47

about the first few seconds of

16:49

that video Jim I was so struck the

16:51

first time I watched this by

16:53

how Fast he

16:56

is moving Down that

16:58

hallway in a towel holding

17:00

the towel on it's not like he's got it wrapped

17:02

and you know How you can wrap a towel and

17:04

sort of right on you know, he left his

17:07

barman really quickly Yes, he left the

17:09

hotel room very quickly and goes running

17:11

down the hall Mostly

17:13

naked. That's how Unconcerned

17:16

he is about being

17:19

caught. That's how Determined

17:21

he is to catch her.

17:23

That's the single-mindedness of His

17:26

attitude and his intention when he

17:29

leaves that hotel room He's

17:31

not even thinking about anything else and if he

17:33

is he's probably just thinking I'm Diddy and it

17:36

doesn't matter cuz I'm You know,

17:38

I'm somebody and nobody else is anybody and I

17:40

can get away with whatever I want That's what

17:42

it says to me and then he

17:44

goes into the lobby of the elevator Banks

17:47

and just grabs her and yanks her

17:49

down. He's completely Unconcerned

17:51

Jim that they are in public.

17:53

This is a public hotel and Anybody

17:57

could be walking around that corner from

17:59

there room to go to the elevator

18:01

or walking out of the elevator. He

18:03

does not care. He is going to

18:05

assert his dominance. He is going to

18:07

assault her because that's what it is.

18:10

This is assault and battery, plain

18:12

and simple as he grabs her and

18:15

so callously just throws her

18:17

down. And she's obviously very

18:19

small and slight throws her to the

18:21

ground where she's almost in a fetal

18:23

position. I would

18:26

imagine there's no sound on it, but my

18:28

guess is because that's because she's crying and

18:30

scared. So she's trying to

18:32

protect herself and he kicked her twice. And

18:34

then after that's when he throws those bases

18:36

at her. And so to me,

18:39

Jim, this just shows an utter

18:42

unconcern for any

18:45

consequences. This is somebody who is used

18:47

to getting away with terrible things and

18:49

who believe he's going to keep doing

18:51

it. He sits in the hallway,

18:54

practically naked, with his feet,

18:58

his legs spread wide apart, sewing

19:01

his dominance in public,

19:04

in a public place, in a

19:06

freaking hotel hallway with no regard

19:10

for decency or for anybody else.

19:12

You know, kids could be running

19:14

around there, but

19:17

he he stamps down his

19:19

feet to proclaim he's

19:21

the king and he

19:24

sits there. He doesn't sulk

19:27

and go back to his room. He doesn't hide. He doesn't

19:29

do anything. He doesn't sort of come to his senses

19:31

and think, Oh my God, I'm almost naked.

19:33

I gotta go back to my room. No,

19:35

he continues the parade of dominance that he

19:38

is trying to exert over her. And you

19:40

know, this reminds me, I've

19:42

told, I've said before on this podcast that I'm co-writing

19:47

and co-producing a podcast

19:49

for I Heart called Playing Dirty Sports

19:51

Candles. And one of the sports scandals that

19:53

will be upcoming on that podcast is about

19:55

Ray Rice. And it's

19:58

all about sports figures who, you know, sort of break

20:00

bad, if you will. And I

20:02

don't know if everyone remembers the Ray Rice

20:04

video that came out, he and his then

20:07

fiance were at a Las

20:09

Vegas hotel, hotel

20:12

again, when they got

20:14

I guess they were drinking and they went

20:16

into an elevator. Well, video

20:18

captured him dragging her

20:21

unconscious body like a

20:23

sack out of that

20:26

elevator. And at the time he was a

20:28

player for the Baltimore Ravens, a football player.

20:31

And so like, he has

20:33

been trained to hit and

20:35

be hit by huge humans.

20:38

And he drags her unconscious body out of

20:40

the elevator. And what he then says is

20:42

that she struck him and then he struck

20:44

her. And she fell down

20:46

and hit her head on the

20:48

rail as she went down. And

20:50

it knocked her unconscious. But instead of picking

20:52

up his fiance and carrying her to hell,

20:54

right, he drags her out of the elevator

20:57

like a sack. And there's no reason that

21:00

big, strong NFL player Ray Rice couldn't put

21:02

up, pick up this little Janay and carry

21:05

her out of the totally underbines.

21:07

And so they, both of

21:10

them, both of them said

21:13

that they, it was

21:15

mutual combat, right? It was mutual

21:17

combat. Well, like two months later,

21:19

Jim, the video from inside the

21:21

elevator leaked, and it

21:23

showed him absolutely wail on her

21:26

with a massive strike to her

21:28

face. And she went down like

21:30

a stone. I mean, he dropped

21:32

like a heavy rock. There was

21:35

no railing. I mean, he literally

21:37

knocked her out. And

21:39

so the point is

21:41

that these men seem,

21:45

these particular men, not all men, obviously, these

21:48

particular men seem to

21:50

completely disregard the fact

21:52

that they are in public, and

21:54

they are perfectly

21:56

willing to engage in

21:59

shocking violence against

22:01

the women in their lives, even

22:03

in public, even in

22:06

view of cameras, potentially. What

22:08

does that say about them, Jim? It

22:11

says that they feel invincible. It says that

22:13

the rules don't apply to them. It says

22:15

that they get to do whatever they want,

22:17

especially to somebody who's weaker, smaller,

22:21

and more vulnerable than they are. So it's

22:23

just a horrible thing. This is not what

22:26

a man is. This is not what men

22:28

do. No humans

22:30

should do this. None, not one.

22:33

This kind of behavior, and I just watched it

22:36

again, just how violent did he slam to the

22:40

ground, then kicked her, and then goes and picks up

22:42

her stuff, and then kicks her again, and then grabs

22:44

her again by the head and hair and

22:47

hoodie, and drags her back around. This

22:51

is a man. Like she's nothing. He

22:53

grabs her like she's nothing. He

22:55

owns her. She's

22:57

a piece of property, and he drags her on

22:59

the ground. Just

23:04

literally lifts her up. The strength

23:07

that he exerted, lifting her

23:09

up by that, partially

23:11

by her clothing and partially by her hair.

23:13

She was a dead weight at that point. She

23:15

wasn't resisting. She wasn't trying to feel. She wasn't doing

23:17

anything. Jim, here's my question. Oh, sorry. Go

23:20

ahead. No, I don't care if she

23:23

said or did anything in the hotel

23:25

room that he's going to claim is

23:27

justification for this. Nothing is justification for

23:30

that. If she had done something, then

23:33

pick up the phone and call the police. Pick

23:35

up the phone and make

23:37

a record of it and call the police. He

23:39

didn't do that. He went running through. He was trying

23:42

to get away. He was trying to escape. Yes,

23:45

probably trying to escape to safety,

23:47

and this is what happened. That's why she

23:50

ends up getting dragged back. She can't leave

23:52

him. She said that women

23:54

who are the victims of domestic violence

23:56

and abuse are safe. seven

24:00

attempts before they're actually successful in

24:02

getting away from an abusive partner.

24:04

So well, intimate violence, intimate

24:07

or interpersonal intimate partner violence, interpersonal

24:09

violence, domestic violence, whatever you want

24:11

to call it, to

24:14

me, is a real signpost

24:17

of that person's character and what

24:19

we can expect from them in

24:21

the future. And so when

24:24

you see the lawsuits against Diddy and all

24:26

these allegations and now the federal government coming

24:28

in and executing search warrants at his house,

24:31

houses, I really

24:33

start to think to myself, okay, there's

24:37

definitely something here. But my question,

24:39

Jim, is why

24:41

are we only now seeing

24:43

this video eight years later?

24:47

Where has it been is one

24:49

important question I have because it's

24:51

a public obviously wasn't a race. It's

24:53

a hotel. Right. You

24:55

would think law enforcement would have had it by

24:57

now, which maybe they did and didn't

24:59

leak it. But number two, let's

25:01

talk about law enforcement, Jim. Why?

25:05

Why didn't Diddy get prosecuted?

25:08

Why wasn't he slapped in

25:10

handcuffs? Why didn't anyone apparently

25:13

call the police about this incident?

25:15

He's in a public hotel. It's

25:17

on video. Are you telling me

25:21

that the security people who

25:23

monitor these feeds and monitor

25:25

the hotel for safety didn't

25:27

see this videotape? I

25:29

don't even believe it. You know why, Jim? Because

25:32

in a routine day of hotels, they don't

25:34

save their tape. They write over them in

25:36

a certain amount of time. It might be

25:38

30 days, maybe it's even six months. Or

25:41

let's say it's even five years. It's

25:43

been eight years. So for this video to

25:45

have not been written over or lost

25:47

somewhere tells me that these people

25:50

in this hotel, the security people, somebody

25:52

hung on to a copy of it.

25:54

Why didn't they turn it over to

25:56

LAPD? Well, maybe because Diddy

25:58

told them not to or maybe. did he

26:00

paid them off? I don't know. But I do know

26:02

that she picked

26:05

up the phone, probably called security.

26:07

It was the whole hallway phone.

26:09

She probably got the you know,

26:12

reception or the operator and she

26:14

probably called security at that moment,

26:16

because she wasn't going with him.

26:19

She got up and she picked up the phone.

26:22

That that's the internal you know, phone

26:24

in the in the hotel. And

26:27

she probably called security and they

26:29

probably pulled the video right

26:31

then and there and did somebody save

26:33

it because they knew that one day

26:35

this would be important or did did

26:37

the security actually do something

26:40

did they actually you know call law

26:42

enforcement? I don't know.

26:44

I don't know why. He certainly wasn't prosecuted. He

26:46

definitely wasn't prosecuted for this in 2016. I don't

26:51

know about arrested but I mean I don't think that we would

26:53

have heard of it. We would have heard about it. He

26:56

should have been arrested. He should have been prosecuted

26:58

and you know just the

27:00

unbelievable violence

27:04

in public. Can you imagine what he did to

27:06

her in private? If this is what he's willing

27:08

to do in public. That's exactly

27:10

right. You know barely dressed at this

27:13

point. Well, this just really shows you

27:15

to the fact that he felt like he could get

27:17

away with it. The fact that he did get away

27:19

with it. The fact that he's probably gotten away with

27:21

a lot worse and a lot more over

27:23

the years is really

27:26

illustrative of I think

27:28

our society's very unfortunate

27:30

and sometimes dangerous worship

27:32

of wealth and fame.

27:35

You know because I can easily

27:37

see what happened. You know the security

27:39

people come maybe she's even not talking

27:41

anymore and he's saying

27:44

oh you know we got a little rowdy

27:46

or you know we were we had an

27:48

argument and maybe I pushed her or she

27:50

pushed me and but we're all fine now

27:53

and in spite of the fact that security people could have

27:55

had access to that video nothing happens so

27:57

you know that that is a very. typical

28:00

outcome when it comes to

28:02

wealth, celebrity and power. People

28:04

have it and they get away with

28:06

things that the rest of us would

28:09

not. Well, we've all heard

28:11

about cancel culture. We've all heard about

28:13

cancel culture. And

28:15

I hope that people cancel Diddy after

28:17

seeing this. I hope that it happens

28:19

so that the victims, which

28:21

I believe there are many, feel

28:24

like they can start coming forward because I

28:26

think there's plenty of people out there and

28:29

obviously some of them are women and

28:32

most likely some of them are men now,

28:34

you know, they used to be boys or

28:37

they're young men that were

28:39

forced into situations that they didn't want

28:41

to be in. I mean, everybody's whispering

28:43

about it in the shade room and

28:46

on, you know, the dark corners of

28:48

the internet and read it, but

28:51

it is not acceptable

28:54

and he should be, he

28:56

should be prosecuted if these

28:58

are the kinds of things that he did. Well,

29:01

there's no question. I hope,

29:03

I sincerely hope that we are going to learn

29:05

more about it because to me, part of

29:08

the function of our criminal justice system

29:10

is deterrence, you know, and to deter

29:13

other people from doing similar things

29:16

because they see people held accountable

29:18

for it. And what

29:21

I think we need to know is what

29:23

has happened in the intervening eight years? Why

29:25

didn't the security do anything or why didn't

29:27

LAPD do anything? And I don't know that

29:29

they even knew about it. I'm just saying,

29:32

why didn't the normal things that

29:34

should happen in a case of

29:36

interpersonal violence, why did

29:38

none of those things happen? Why wasn't

29:41

there law enforcement intervention and

29:43

what, where has this tape been? Who gave

29:45

it to CNN? Obviously CNN knows where they

29:47

got it, but who gave it to them

29:49

and where has it been all this time?

29:51

And so all those things are questions

29:53

that I think need answers, not

29:56

just because Diddy should be held accountable, but

29:58

because we need. understand that

30:00

the system is working and is going to

30:02

work for people like Cassie and

30:05

for the next person who has to

30:07

deal with something terrible like this, they

30:09

should know that they can come forward

30:11

because the system isn't going to favor

30:13

Diddy and just write it off as

30:15

a, you know, a mutual

30:18

combat the way they initially did in the

30:20

Ray Rice case. I mean, the,

30:23

these things have been going on for a long

30:25

time, Jim, and yet they still happen. I

30:28

know. So let's stay on top of this,

30:30

Francie, and we will cover

30:33

anything else that breaks on this case.

30:35

And hopefully we'll be hearing a lot,

30:37

not only from law

30:39

enforcement about what they're doing to hold

30:41

Diddy accountable for what he's done in

30:44

the past, but also I'm

30:46

hoping that people will feel emboldened

30:48

and strong enough to know that no

30:50

matter what happened to you, you

30:53

can come forward. It's not your

30:55

fault. You have no responsibility if

30:57

somebody is violent against you or

30:59

abuses you in any way, especially

31:02

if you're a minor,

31:05

especially. That's right. Well,

31:08

if anybody out there that's

31:11

listening has any information, please

31:13

do call the LAPD,

31:17

call law enforcement in your

31:19

local area and

31:21

please report what you know. And if

31:24

you do know of somebody who's in

31:27

a situation like this, where they're

31:29

being abused by, you know,

31:31

either a romantic partner or not, please

31:36

step up and help support that

31:38

person. Help them because

31:40

they need help. Many times

31:43

they can't get away without anybody else's

31:46

help. So please don't

31:49

let it just go. All right,

31:52

Francie. Well, thank you for bringing this to my

31:54

attention and we're going to follow

31:56

up on this as soon as new

31:58

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