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Who is Mark Weber. He's a self made business executive
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here to help you find your success from the New
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York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His
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global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational.
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He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic
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your host of always in Fashion, Mark Weber.
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Mark Weber, I never gave much thought to what's next
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until I did. One of the best statements ever made
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on the future is I planned for the worst and
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hope for the best. Caution and concern can save you
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or your business. Another I admired. You can't reminisce about
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the future. You can't look back and learn from that
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which hasn't happened yet. You must plan for the future.
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We get paid to see around the corner. Problem is
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it's quite difficult without a crystal ball, but none the less,
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we need to be soothsayers. That's a person who's set
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to see into the future, but back to the future.
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Illustrated how hindsight could be twenty twenty. Have the answers
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in advance, and you be a genius, the richest man.
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In the world.
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But we don't get tipped off in advance. Yes, I
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never planned until I woke up and realized all of
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life is a plan. You can try to replan, but
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they're no do overs. There's no road map. The greatest
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generals that have ever lived have been quoted as saying,
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the best paddle plan only less till the first shot
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is fired. Said professionally, no plan of operations reaches certainty
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beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main force. You
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can ply this to life. You go to school, you graduate,
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you get a job, you work hard, you find a
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significant other, you have children, and you create the life
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cycle for their lives. In business, your plan, execute, replan,
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re execute. They are no guarantees. The one lesson I've learned,
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the one lesson we've all learned. No matter how brilliant
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the idea, no matter how strong the brand, no matter
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how brilliant the product or the creativity of the marketing
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it takes people. People are the ultimate resource in a business.
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Brilliant plans need brilliant people to develop them, and people dedicated,
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hard working, loyal people to the point. In order to
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have a thriving company, your people, your associates, need to
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be happy. Your need is to motivate them and then
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retain them keep them in the company. You do it
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through compensation, commending them on jobs well done, motivating them,
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and ensuring that the company messages and goals are clear
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and selfishly ensure that all key executives want to stay.
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Having said this, well run companies ensure that people assets
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are protected. Well run companies I love that phrase. More
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on that later. The most senior or critically skilled people
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in the company have contracts, then your HR team and
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senior managers should understand it's okay to lose people as
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long as you lose them to yourself. Make sure the
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openings are there when they exist. The future is clearly
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spelled out in positions delineated, and that whenever possible, you
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promote from winning. And lastly, your board if there is one,
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your lenders, if you have them, your shareholders want to
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ensure a documented succession plan is in place. If your
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CEO leaves, it gets hit by a truck, how will
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the company go forward? Who will succeed him? It could
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be the president, chief financial officer, the head of marketing,
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could be anyone that may be the most critical decision
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in the plan. Should our CEO leave, we have to
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be prepared to go to the outside to find the
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next one. A well crafted succession plan includes a backup
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plan for every significant operating job in person. Now, succession
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plans don't always work. Sometimes people really get angry. I
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have a clip I want to play for you.
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You're my kid brother, and you take care of me. Do you have to think about that? Do you ever
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once think about that? Save Fredo off to do this,
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Save Fredo off to do that. Let Fredo take care
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of some Mickey Mouse nightclub somewhere. Save Freido to pick
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somebody up at the airport. I mean your older brother, Mike,
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and I was stepped over. Ain't the way I wanted it.
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I can handle things. I'm smart, like everybody says like dumb.
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Let's smart and I want not. Everyone will be happy,
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particularly if the succession plan links. Everybody has high visions
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of where they are, and it can lead to mayhem.
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But this is the way it works. Now, those of
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you who know the show know me. You know this is where I usually introduce Jesse, my co host, Jesse Weber.
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He's not here again. He's busy. He work in twenty
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four to seven, so he's not gonna be with us tonight. However,
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I'm gonna go it alone and I want to talk
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to you about succession plan, my own personal succession plan
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that you might find interesting. Back in my PVH days,
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my CEO was a young man. He was basically I'm
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fifty four years old, and he started to talk about retiring.
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I thought he was a Nazi's the CEO of the company.
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I'm the president of company. It's running well. We have
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a great chief financial officer. We're running the company. He
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doesn't come in every day. He lives a life. He's
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on the strategic side. Why would you possibly resign? Why
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would you give that up? He says, I have other things I want to do. I said, I don't believe
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He says, well, don't believe me, but I'm going to be leaving. And the more we spend time together, the
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more he was driving home the point that he was
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going to retire early and I was the president. Where
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did that leave me? On top of which him and
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I grew up together, and I was concerned. So one
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day we're having a conversation and he said, uncategorically, Mark,
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you better get ready. I'm getting serious. I'm going to
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retire and move on, and you're going to be my replacement.
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And I said, how do you know that? He says,
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because I'm going to insist. I said, how do you
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know that? I said, Look, if you're serious about leaving,
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which I don't understand, if you want to stay here
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for the rest of your life, I'll be your number two president. I'm happy. I love working with you. That's
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fine with me. But if you decide to leave and
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I don't get to become the CEO, I want to leave.
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I don't want to be stuck here with someone new. I don't want to be stuck here thinking that the
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company didn't think I was good enough to have the number one spot. After all this slime, I need to
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be taken care of. So what does that mean? I said,
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I want a provision in my contract that says that
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if I'm not made the CEO, I can walk off
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into the sunset with you, and I henceforth called it
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a sunset contract. And he looked at me and said
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one of the dumbest things I ever heard in my life. Sindmy,
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what are you talking about? Mark? This makes no sense.
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If you can't get the CEO job, then you'll just
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behave poorly and they'll fire you and you'll get your contract.
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And I looked at him, I said, did you just say that to me? I've been here for twenty five years.
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I look at this company as if it's my own.
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I treat the money as if it's my own, my heart,
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my time, my life, my family invested here. And you're
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telling me that should I not become the CEO, I
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should behave like Peck's bad boy and hope to get fired.
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That's what I want to do with my career. Unacceptable.
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I want a contract that illustrates if I'm not going
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to be the CEO, I can leave. I think it's
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fair for the amount of time I've been here, for the contribution I make to the company, He said, let
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me talk to the board. The board had a compensation committee.
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I don't know how the conversation went, but Lo and Behold.
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A week later, he came back and he said, you're
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going to have your sunset contract. Namely, if in fact
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I leave and the board doesn't name you CEO, you'll
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be able to walk off into the sunset. You'll be
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able to get your package and leave and go with me.
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And I thought that was amazing, and I won, and
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I wanted using my brains and it was the right
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thing to do. And after all is said and done,
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in this life, you always have to plan. You always
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have to have a succession plan. So what is a
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succession plan? I'll tell you what it is. It's not
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a Chinese menu. Contract is not a Chinese menu. You
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don't get to pick what you want from column A or column B. A succession plan outlines every single critical
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role in the company. And you might wonder why am
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I talking about this tonight, which, by the way, the show is called succession. And I'll tell you why. You
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know what got me thinking about this? Twice former person
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in Trump was almost assassinated. Where would that have left
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us as a country? And then the vice presidential debate
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talk about succession? Hold that thought. If you're a family business,
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I've found family business is very interesting and very peculiar.
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No matter what happens, family members run the business. But
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if there are three children, does the oldest get it
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and the eldest what happens if the eldest son is
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an idiot, or for that matter, what is the eldest
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woman is an idiot. I'll tell you what. One of
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the things impressed me most and my travels around the world.
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In Hong Kong, the woman, if she was the most capable,
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got it over the sun. They didn't fool around, they
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passed it along. I'm not so sure that's the way
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it's done here in the United States Corporate America, the
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seriousness in which a planned discussion for succession is planned
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and put and set in stone. The first thing you
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have to ask yourself is what I was saying before
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about contracts. The top most executives in the company have
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to have great contracts. You want them with the company.
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You want them to know that there's a future, and there's a story and told and should they get fired,
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they have a severance package. But here is the key.
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There's always a non compete that mirrors the severance package.
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So if you are a president of the company and
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you get fired for not cause, if nothing, you did wrong,
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cause generally is about legal things. You did a bad job,
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you can get fired, it doesn't matter. You still get your severance. But if you have two years, then you're
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going to sign a non compete that says you can't
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go to a competitor for the next two years. Now,
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some come copanies will list every single company in the
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industry that you're in to try to avoid you getting
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a job anywhere. That's not valid. Can't stop a person
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working forever, but they say, hey, I'm going to pay
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you for two years. I don't want you working in this industry. So you have to be smart when you're
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negotiating a package. My severance package, the only thing it
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included with companies that we considered taking over and buying
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the rest I was free and clear. I refused to
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sign a severance package and a non compete that would
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keep me out of the industry forever. The second thing
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that a good succession plan does it protects the executives,
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the CEO, the president, and sometimes the chief financial officer.
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In my case, the first thing they did after nine
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to eleven they brought a consulting firm who specialized in security,
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and they told us to build special rooms as bunkers
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in our houses, so gofa bit something happens, you had
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a room that was impregnable, that had its own air system,
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its own water supply, conditioning, and food that they would
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detail on what need to do. They wanted you safe.
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The second thing that probably nobody thinks about when it
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comes to a good succession plan is the senior VPS,
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the executive VPS, and certainly the CEO and president can
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never be on a flight together. We were not allowed
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to fly together because God forbid something happened to the CEO.
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The president needed to be available. In my case, I
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was the successor to the CEO. I had to be available.
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So nobody thinks about that, But there are detailed things
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that go involved in each of those things. It also
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includes a detailed job description of every position held in
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the company and who that success it would be. If
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you were a vice president in the warehouse, they wanted
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to know if you disappeared, was there a vice president
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available to pick up the place and walk right in.
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If not, the HR team was told to have a
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list of potential candidates should we need to press a
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button to fill those positions. This was a very detailed, heart,
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well thought out plan, and having said that, it was
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presented to the board and generally speaking, an entire board
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meeting would be set aside for the discussion of succession.
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And when it came to the CEO to the president,
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I was asked to recuse myself, which means you walk
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out on your own volition, recognizing that it's confidential information
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that in this case, because you're involved, the board might
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not want you to hear. And what got me thinking
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about it is the presidential election, as I started to say, politics,
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It's always been said, but very few people think about
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the vice president as a heart beat away. That's what
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it is, a heart beat away that if something would
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have happened to Trump, or something would have happened to
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whom I wanver is President Biden. Now there's a succession plan,
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believe it or not, it's the vice president and then
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the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, or was Nancy Pelosi?
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Mike Johnson? Is that his name? Anyway, There's never been
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a time in our country where our populace was more
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aware and evolved with the country than it is right now.
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Whether it's a combination of the Internet, social media, Opinion
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News twenty four to seven. We're all involved in the
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government now, we're all invested citizens, and we're all aware
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of what's going on in this presidential election. And let
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me state it upfront before I tell you what I think.
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I have tremendous respect for each candidate. For that matter,
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anyone who runs for office and wins has my respect,
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even if I don't like them personally, even if I
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don't like their policies. I was trained to respect the
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office that they hold. Kamala Harris is a woman. I
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don't care. Woman makes no difference from me. Is she capable?
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Is she strong decision making? Does she get what's important?
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I'll come back to that. I want to play a
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clip from you from a movie I saw when I was thirteen years old. It was a comedy. It was
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called No Time for Sergeants Andy Griffin anybody who knows them.
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But I remember how young I was when I saw
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this movie because it left an impact on me, and
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I'm gonna play it for you.
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I want you to turn around very slowly and look
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very carefully this time and tell me exactly what you see.
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I see or Cornel, Yeah, a captain, that's all.
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And the captain's a woman nation.
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I don't notice whether it's a man.
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Or what.
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All I see is a captain, that's all.
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Look. Having a woman president is historic. Having a black
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woman president is even more historic, and that is wonderful.
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But I could care less. I want the best person
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in the office, and if she's crazy on the left,
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I don't want her. Trump an acquired taste, his own
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worst enemy. Everything that comes out of his mouth is questionable.
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So many people hate him, so many people dislike him,
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so many people don't want him to be president. But
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I have a problem. He did get the job done.
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He did have a lot of great ideas. He did
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make things happen, he did have strength. Now, obviously I'm
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leaning towards him based on the way I'm saying, but
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it doesn't matter. I'm only one vote you get to decide.
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But back to succession, no one knows what life brings.
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Remember I said it, I respect all. But what really
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got me thinking about succession was the vice presidential debate. Now,
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I was pleased as there was cordiality. I was pleased
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that they shook hands, they respected one another. It's the
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way debates should be in reality, I thought Jad've answers
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a far right religious Yahoo. Turns out he's a brilliant,
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accomplished served in the Marines for his country, and he's
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a humble human being. The reality was in succession, I
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saw him as a president, and I thought that was
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important considering we're discussing a heartbeat away. On the other side,
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Tim Walls, a self described knucklehead with buffoonish behavior. I'm
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not making this up. He said it himself. Oh and
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he admitted he was a liar and a truth changer,
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this own version of the truth. And when he got caught,
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he could have answered this whole thing in Tenement Square.
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He could have said, I wasn't there for Tenement Square,
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but I was there in the summer when the riots
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were still going on and the problems were still going on.
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But he made it come out differently. And I'm told
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he did the same thing with his service record. Look
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at you never come to it, But can you really
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see that guy as president? A heart beat away. That's
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what got me thinking about succession tonight. But we are
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always in business life, politics and now this we have
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I'm very happy spring in summer, and I help you
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Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber.
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Tonight, I'm discussing succession, the future, Who's going to be, whom, Who's.
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Going to be?
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What? What got me thinking about it was the vice
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presidential debate, which was scary when you consider these folks
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are a heartbeat away from the presidency. Nobody pays any
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attention to the vice president. You listen to all the pundits,
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they'll say nobody votes based on the vice president. Nobody
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even gives it a second thought. And yet it's scary
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because you never know what life brings. You pick from
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those two candidates and ask yourself whether or not either
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one of them would be a good presidential candidate. God
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for bit, you know, we're talking about the most powerful
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position in the world, the leader of the world. And
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not only that, they're clearly I're gonna be decision making
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policies for the rest of our four year policy if
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something should happen, so it really matters, and that is
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what they say. Words matter. And while I'm atter, I
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want to talk about the rich paying their fair share.
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I've told you that I used to be important. Then
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I no longer am, and I guess, Jesse, if you
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see us, say stop whining. You're still important. Your family
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thinks you're important. You're always important. I used to be important.
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I had huge jobs, considering I grew up in the
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city projects. To get two CEO jobs, I think it
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was pretty huge. And to work for one of the
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largest companies in the United States in the paril sector,
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and then the largest luxury company in the world. I
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used to be important, and I don't think I am now.
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But I tell you what that importance had done. It
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taught me a lot of stuff. And when someone talk stupid,
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get the rich to pay their fast share. Billionaires and
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millionaires that have to pay their fast share. It is
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the dumbest, stupidest lie in the world fair share. I
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made a ton of money and everything I made was
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tax through the roof. I've worked for a public company
25:27
who published my salary. They gave me the check, they
25:30
took my taxes out of it. I had no deductions
25:33
other than when anyone else had. At the time, I
25:36
guess I was in the thirty six thirty eight percentile,
25:40
and that's just for federal tax New York State tax.
25:44
I was seeing less than fifty percent of my money.
25:48
You think about it. Person works, they make one hundred
25:53
dollars and at best they get fifty dollars for their effort.
25:57
Don't tell me the rich don't pay them have fair share.
26:01
Of course, we pay our fair share. Now, this is
26:04
where it gets stupid, and where they bend the truth
26:08
and they try and work you up. I always work
26:13
for a public company. I guess the honesty is during
26:17
those days, I would be afraid to start my own business.
26:22
How do you do that? I mean, we'd even begin,
26:25
And yet these brilliant entrepreneurs figure out how to build businesses.
26:31
You could be a plumber. You went to plumber school.
26:33
You have your own business, you hire your own crew,
26:36
you work your own hours. You have to make customers happy,
26:38
and you build a business on your own. And that
26:41
plumber has to have a truck, he has to have equipment,
26:46
he has to have people to do his bills. He
26:49
needs staff, he needs plumber's assistants. He's making an investment
26:53
in his business. It's not like me. I go to
26:56
work and I show up, I get a salary. That
26:58
plumber has to do a lot, has to invest his
27:01
own money to establish himself in the plumbing business. In
27:06
this world, in every world, when you're paying your taxes,
27:11
you're allowed to deduct your expenses. If you're Louis Viton
27:18
and you invest thirty five forty fifty one hundred million
27:22
in advertising that brand to make it interesting to people.
27:26
You're allowed to deduct your expenses if you have a
27:31
store and it does one hundred million dollars on fifty
27:35
seventh Street, to pick a number out. It's not free
27:38
and clear, one hundred million dollars. You have to pay
27:40
your rent, you have to pay employees. Your profit is
27:43
based on what's left over, not the total number. And
27:48
because you're investing and you're taking a risk, corporations are
27:55
taxed at a different rate than individuals because it makes sense,
28:00
it's only fair. Which brings me to capital gains. That's
28:05
where the billionaires make their money. That's where many millionaires
28:10
make their money in capital gains. What is capital gains?
28:14
Before I go there, I would tell you any time I've ever been in my position and an entrepreneur showed
28:19
up by my doorstep to offer me a service, to
28:22
sell me something, to talk about me, all we talked
28:25
about is whether they get the courage to start on
28:27
their own. You think about all the immigrants, and I
28:31
am in favor of legal immigration, not illegal immigration, but
28:35
whichever the case may be. Think about the risks they
28:38
took to come to this country, how they were willing
28:41
to do anything, to be in a caravan, to walk
28:44
through the jungle, through the woods, through the course rivers,
28:48
to come here to start anew It's really an extraordinary
28:53
set of experiences. If you ask an immigrant, weren't you
28:58
afraid to start your own businesusiness rather than get a job,
29:02
they'd look at you and say to you, after what I went through to get here, how can I be
29:05
afraid of anything else in my life? Fascinating? Don't tell
29:10
me the rich don't pay that their share. Entrepreneurs are
29:13
investing their own money, which brings me back to capital gains.
29:17
I have two choices in theory what to do with
29:19
my money. As to you, you could have put it
29:22
in a bank or treasury bill, but it's guaranteed by
29:26
the government. You put it there, it gives you a
29:28
return and no matter what happens, you get your money back.
29:32
A stock, however, is a risk this country is built
29:38
on selling companies to the public market. I own Apple shares.
29:43
I'm an owner of Apple. I own a portion of that company. I invest money and I wait and I
29:49
wait and I wait, and the stock can go up,
29:52
the stock can go down. But the government recognizes that
29:57
I'm taking a risk and to you move the economy
30:01
along to understand how it helps hire workers give people jobs.
30:06
The government understands that you are taking a risk investing
30:10
in companies, and for that, we're going to give you
30:14
a special tax break, which at the moment is between
30:17
twenty and twenty five percent instead of thirty six percent.
30:21
It tacks you at a capital gains rate to recognize
30:24
the fact that you are taking risk. That's where billionaires
30:28
make their money. They're not taking salaries, and if they do,
30:31
they pay the same tax as you do. But if
30:33
they invest in their company, like Elon Musk, and he
30:37
decides to sell this company, and the rule with capital
30:40
gains meaning you'll get a benefit on the tax rate
30:44
if you hold it for more than one year. You
30:46
buy a stock Apple tomorrow goes up ten points and
30:49
you sell it, you're gonna pay regular tax on that.
30:51
But if you buy a stock and you hold it for a you're gonna pay capital gains twenty percent a
30:56
lot less big companies create jobs. All entrepreneurial companies create jobs.
31:03
What are these puntings saying there'd be no country without entrepreneurs.
31:08
Jobs aren't created by the government. Well, there's a lot
31:12
of jobs, but none of them make money. They're a
31:15
service sector to the country. So please, guys, I'm telling you,
31:21
nobody gave me anything in life. I came from the
31:23
city projects. I worked hard, I worked smart, I got lucky.
31:27
I made money. I paid my taxes the same amount
31:30
as any one of you. I want to be an
31:32
Uber driver, I gotta pay Uber, I gotta pay for gas,
31:37
I gotta buy a car. I have to pay for
31:39
maintenance on that car. So if you come in my
31:42
car and I charge you one hundred dollars, I didn't
31:44
make one hundred dollars. At least fifty or sixty percent
31:49
of that one hundred dollars goes to other people, or
31:51
it goes to costs. So of course I only pay
31:54
tax on the forty dollars that's left. Oh wake up,
31:56
don't be dumb.
31:58
Always in fashion, spent a.
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Lifetime of my career building the van Usen brand, and
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I am so pleased that they're back with us now
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talking about suits. Men were dressing up again and it's
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Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark
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webber So.
36:10
On the subject of stuff, which is where I am
36:13
right now. There are a bunch of things that got on my mind. I just discussed taxing the rich. I
36:18
have a question for everybody. Why isn't anybody talking about
36:22
astronauts trapped in the International Space Station. Isn't that crazy?
36:29
We put these two people up there and we can't get them back, and no one's screaming, where's NASA, where's
36:34
Elon Musk. I've been told that Elon Musk might be
36:37
coming to help them out, but you would think we'd
36:40
be talking about this. It's hard to believe. It's amazing
36:45
how hard it is to believe you want to talk
36:48
about heroes and brave people. Oh my gosh. I mentioned
36:52
well run companies before. There are uncertainties in every business.
36:58
They're uncertainties and changes that happen that people have to
37:02
figure out what to do with to take the luxury
37:05
industry right now, luxury industry is taking a bath. It's
37:09
getting hit fairly dramatically. For one of the reasons is
37:13
is there is a move towards silent luxury, stealth looks.
37:19
There's a move towards buying great looking products without logos,
37:23
not bragging about who you are. You look at Laura Piano,
37:27
Nobody knows you're wearing Lorda piano unless there's another Laura
37:30
Piano person there who appreciates the quality, understands the looks.
37:34
Luxury industry is under attack. Another thing that has happened
37:40
is that luxury companies have driven their prices up. I'm
37:44
told to as much as fifty percent or more. And
37:47
some of the cork items that you would heretofore buy
37:51
something that costs one thousand dollars now costs three thousand.
37:54
And the world is changing because at one thousand dollars,
37:58
there's a lot of people who had saved their money
38:01
to purchase that one handbag and feel good about themselves
38:05
when they walk around carrying and put it over their shoulder.
38:09
It's not as easy selling three thousand or five thousand
38:12
dollars handbags. So I'm told what's happening is their numbers
38:17
are holding up, but they're selling less units. So they're
38:20
relying on a smaller group of people to buy and
38:23
spend more on the same items that they were spending
38:26
on before. We're losing that entry level person into the
38:29
luxury business, and it's starting to have an impact in general.
38:33
Of course the board. So what do you do? I
38:37
remember the last time we had a major recession that
38:40
the world went to crazy, not COVID, when we closed
38:43
the country, The question was what do you do? Even
38:48
during COVID, what do you do? I'll never forget. October seventeenth,
38:54
I think two thousand and eight, I get a call
38:58
from the Manning Gen, director of EL. He was in Paris.
39:01
I was in New York. I remember I was walking
39:04
on the street and I just tourned into the the
39:07
LVH compound on fifty seventh Street in Manhattan, and I
39:11
was in the lobby and he said Mark, we're very
39:13
concerned with the recession that's taking place in the country
39:18
and the world. We wanted to talk to you about
39:21
what you're seeing going on in America and what you
39:23
think about it. And I'll never forget what I said
39:26
to him is, yes, you should be concerned. The best
39:33
retailers are going to buy less. There's going to be
39:36
less opportunity to save money. Everything will be at a premium.
39:41
And you have to manage your business well. And I
39:44
said to him, well run companies thrive in difficult environments.
39:52
And he said, what does that mean to you, Mark,
39:55
I said, the first thing you need to consider is inventory.
40:00
Inventory is the lifeblood of the company. How much you
40:03
sell or how much you don't sell is the key
40:07
to your business. How much markup, how much you make
40:11
on the items you sell versus whether you lose on
40:13
those items you sell or as what makes or breaks
40:17
a business. At a time like this, everyone should clean
40:22
out their inventory. Now. In my case, mister managing director,
40:26
we've been talking about this recession for the last six months,
40:30
and I reduce my inventory levels across the board in
40:34
the company. Was it easy.
40:36
No.
40:37
In the case of the Donna Karen Company, Donna Karen Kampany,
40:40
what are you doing? Why are you buying less? The
40:42
designers dcyn Why Mark, I don't understand you're making the
40:46
line smaller. The production people saying, I usually buy one
40:49
thousand pieces of this item. You're telling me it only
40:51
buy five hundred. I said, yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing.
40:54
And every single division in this company is going to
40:57
buy less because I believe six months now every retail
41:01
in the world is going to buy less. And I was right. I said to him at the time, here's
41:06
a way of looking at it, mister managing direct I said,
41:10
there are things that you should do. There are things
41:14
that would be nice to do, and there are things
41:18
that you must do. You have a business. You better
41:22
pay your electure bills. You want the lights to come on.
41:25
You have an office, you have retail stores. You have
41:28
to pay your landlord, otherwise he's going to lock you out.
41:31
I don't know that i'd be opening new stores right now.
41:34
I know I wouldn't. I'd wait. I don't know that
41:36
I would renew any lease higher than what I paid
41:39
for it at this time. But I would deal with
41:42
those things that only you had to do. And the
41:46
things that made me feel good are the things that
41:48
you should do. No if advertising wasn't proven. You know,
41:53
I've talked about this before. John Wanna make a famous
41:56
businessman famous retailers said, I know fifty percent of my
41:59
average tising works. I just don't know which fifty percent.
42:03
None of us know what works. Well run companies thrive
42:07
in difficult environments. Unless I was sure that an advertisement
42:13
or an expenditure would directly relate to increased sells or
42:17
to sales that I needed to capture, I wouldn't spend
42:20
the money anymore. Because well run companies must thrive in
42:24
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Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber.
45:58
On a personal something drove me crazy this week. I'm
46:02
a homeowner. You know I mentioned plumbers before you want
46:05
to say, I say, I used to be important. You know it's important now My plumber, my electrician, my heating
46:11
and air conditioning people, those people are important. Those people
46:14
are incredibly important. Something goes wrong, what do you do?
46:17
What do you do? I'm at the end of the season, like everyone else. I've been running air conditioning all along,
46:22
and I had to switch to heat, or at least
46:25
make sure in order to keep my warranties. I had
46:29
to make sure that I made official adjustment. And they
46:32
come in and check my air conditioning and heat. So
46:37
they come in and after the workman is there for
46:40
around a half hour, he says, I'm afraid I have
46:44
some difficult news to you. You have two boilers running
46:46
your house. You need them because you have a big house.
46:50
One is the main, the other is the they call it the slave helps the main, and both of them
46:57
are in trouble right now. Ye that it's a relatively
47:01
new unit, he said. I know it should have lasted
47:03
much longer, but it doesn't. And I have to go
47:06
out in the market and try and find parts. I said,
47:09
why are in the market? He said, Well, the company
47:11
that we installed this from you went bankrupt, so we
47:14
have to go out and try and track down parts. And the problem is, let's say we find him now,
47:20
what's going to happen to the next time, and there'll
47:22
be a next time. I suggest you have to replace
47:25
this units. I said, what about the other one? He said,
47:28
that's also bad news. It has to be replaced. If
47:31
not now, it'll be six months from now, and it could come at the worst possible time when it's cold outside, freezing,
47:36
and these things aren't generating the heat that you need
47:39
for your water or your house swell. I have to
47:42
ask you a question. You guys told me to buy
47:45
this brand. Are you responsible or I am? And after
47:49
clearing his throat, he said, well, you should call the owner,
47:51
but of course not, we're not responsible. We install this
47:54
in good faith, wear and tear. I don't know what
47:57
to tell you. Then he tells me the price, and I thought my head would go through the roof. I
48:02
bought a system, put it in this house ten years ago,
48:05
the entire system. I have six processes outside, I've got
48:09
six inside. I got all this going on, and everything
48:12
has turned over in the last ten years. And the
48:15
cost of this is crazy. And what are you supposed
48:18
to do? You know what I did? I vented how
48:22
can you do this to me? Ba ba b b b b b b b And you know what I
48:26
gotten for it? Nothing. I'm on plumbers tonight. If I
48:30
knew what I knew now, maybe I would have been a tradesman. While I'm on the subject of stuff and
48:35
I'm off the subject of succession, those of you who
48:37
still listening want to learn how There's a few things
48:39
I have to make sure I get off my chest. I was with one of my son's friends the other
48:43
day and I asked him, does your company match your
48:48
four oh one K contribution? And he said, I don't
48:51
invest in four o one k. I started screaming, are
48:55
you out of your freaking mind? But before I really
48:58
get great, do they match it? And yeah, they match
49:00
it up to six percent. A four oh one k
49:04
a company gives you free money. You put your money in.
49:08
You put fifteen thousand dollars a year, and what is
49:11
a four oh one k? The government says you do
49:14
not have to pay any taxes on the income that
49:17
fifteen thousand dollars makes until you retire in your seventies.
49:21
You get all of those earnings free of charge until
49:27
you retire. Now, from the government point of view. Thank
49:30
you when I'm making the least amount of my money.
49:32
When I'm retired and I'm not making money, that's when
49:35
you want to tax me. That's when you should leave me alone. I spent my whole life paying taxes, which,
49:39
by the way, you want to talk about taxes, rich
49:42
don't pay the fair share. I live in a nice neighborhood.
49:44
I pay taxes on my house some crazy number, and
49:48
of the crazy number, I don't want to say it,
49:52
ninety percent is school tax I'm like hymen Roth and
49:56
the Godfather. I'm just a retiree living on a pension.
50:00
I'm not going to school. I have no children going
50:04
to school. I have no grandchildren living in this house
50:08
going to school. I have nothing to do with the
50:10
school system. And most of my taxes on my hom
50:13
are for schools. What's wrong with that system? Back to
50:18
four o one K. Anyone who doesn't find a way
50:21
to contribute to their four oh one K force themselves
50:25
to save money is a moron. Now you are a
50:28
more on for one or two reasons. Either you're spending
50:31
too much money or you're not taking advantage of one
50:35
of the greatest perks that God ever invented companies matching
50:40
your contributions, giving you free money, and the government telling
50:44
you don't have to pay anything. And while I'm on the subject of this and money tonight tax the rich.
50:50
I'm not sure my son's friend talks to me anywhere,
50:52
by the way, after I let loose on them. But
50:55
again it happens something else for someone else. The other
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woman talking about bonuses. We're talking about you know, is
51:02
Trump good for the economy? What's going to be with
51:05
interest rates? And I happen to say, do you shop
51:08
with credit cards? She said yeah? I said, do you
51:11
pay your credit card bills off every month? And know
51:13
I just pay a small amount and just keep charging.
51:16
I went crazy. I went crazy. Do you know what
51:19
credit card interest is? It's like twenty percent or more.
51:24
That means like you're borrowing money from people who are
51:26
taking incredible advantage of you. Do you imagine you borrow
51:30
one hundred dollars you're based only one hundred dollars and
51:32
by the andy die, oh, I'm one hundred and twenty dollars.
51:35
It's crazy. I'll tell you what. All of you out there,
51:39
anyone who wants to borrow money from me, call me up,
51:42
I'll charge you twenty percent. I'll do it with you.
51:46
The problem is you have to give me some collateral.
51:49
You have to sign over your children, or your house
51:51
or something that really has value to me. But the
51:53
reality is charging you twenties percent, I go to jail.
51:57
So how come the credit card companies can do that
51:59
I want? I don't know. Tonight is a lesson in finance,
52:02
I suppose, or succession. Hopefully you're learning from what I
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have to say, If not, replace me. Jesse's here and
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he'll do a better job than I will. That is
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