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right, we are rolling. Luckily
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for us, my regular
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co-host has some autoimmune issues
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and he's seeing the best doctors available
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and sitting in for him is
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one of the all time greats. We're so lucky
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that he's here. Give it up
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for the one and only Andrew Dice Clay, everybody.
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And it's great to be here. Man,
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this is awesome. This is a treat. The
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reason I'm here because I love Burt. You
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know, I really do. Yeah, he's great. I think
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you guys are a great team. Thank you. That's
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number one. Another thing, you know,
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you guys are just killing it out there.
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Thanks, man. I have to say it, you know,
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because I follow, you know, you know, I
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don't know how anybody knows who follows
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who. Yeah. You know what I
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mean? But I do. I follow you.
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I follow the two of you. I
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follow him. He's so crazy on the road
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with the fully loaded. It's crazy. You
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know, yeah. I'm like, when did they have time for the
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show? That's how I look at the clips. I
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know because they're out like they're kayaking
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and fucking playing frisbee golf. Let me
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ask you something about him because I've
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talked to him. You
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know, he, you
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know, he's like when he's on
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that thing, when they're out there
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doing those shows. Yeah.
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And they're gigantic shows. Yeah. Bigger
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than gigantic. Yeah, they're huge. So
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I'm saying, so there
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they are now in an amusement
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park, you know,
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with everybody going on the
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roller coaster. Yeah. Now,
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I know if I was with him and
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he said, you know, let's do, does he
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like tell them you have to do this?
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Because nobody turns around and says, I'm not
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going on there. Yeah. Because
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he knows I would. I would never. I would
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never do it. I grew up near Coney Island.
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I didn't go on the cyclone once. Not a chance. So
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and the roller coaster is today make that look
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like. And he's like just
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smile. He'll sit in the front car Nothing
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means anything to him. He's like
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the what's it like the carnival
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guy like that. Do they have to do it?
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I don't think they have to but I do
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think that Burt has this thing It's
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probably an extension of who he was in
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college. We're like the guy who's like, let's
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go Let's go fucking stand on
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top of this building and take shits off
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this and then somebody's like, all right Let's
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go white water rafting. Yeah. No, no I
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don't want to do it doing that, you
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know But it
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is amazing to see ya know. Yeah.
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Yeah. He's contagious though. He's contagious fun,
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you know and What
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else do and I love that he's where
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we had talks about exercise. Uh-huh, and
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he is pumping Yeah, you know he's been and
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I've even seen our wall bird talk about
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it. He's been getting after it Yeah,
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you've been a big exercise guy. Well,
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that's Where I
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connected with him when I met him
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at the mothership. I started talking about
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exercise Yeah, I go, you know,
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I'm not ripped, you know, I'm just
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you know, you're a fit guy though I mean
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like Jews don't get ripped, you know
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what I mean? We just don't I mean now
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and then you see one But yeah, you got
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to figure the father's Italian So, you know what
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I mean that it's a mixed matter but
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yeah, but I love to exercise because
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I always say like You
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know like as a comic you're
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exercising your mind your mind your
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mind runs your body So why
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not exercise everything? Yeah, you know,
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so you were baby. He's been
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doing it He's been doing it more
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lately for sure you were but you were
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a big workout guy Like you
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have been right for your well, this is the
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thing when I was uh, when
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I was 30 and I
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got Ford failing. Mm-hmm. That's also like when
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my career took off right before I was
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30 So all
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these celebs would come to my show from
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from Cher to
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Priscilla Presley to Billy
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Yachty I had an idol, my
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first concert in LA at
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the Wilton is where I became friends with
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Guns N' Roses. And Stallone
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would come to all my shows. I became
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friends with him, because he
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called to meet me on the set of Lock Up,
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which I idolized Sly. I
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couldn't believe, my manager at the time, he calls me
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and he goes, Sly Stallone wants to meet you. So
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bottom line, the next Sunday, he
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leaves a message on my voice machine
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going, you know, we're having Memorial Day, why
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don't you come over to my house? You
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know, and I'm looking at the
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number two wife, you know, which wasn't
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the number two wife yet. And
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I go, do you believe this? We're going to
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a barbecue at Sly's. But
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at his house, I met
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this guy, George Pipsick, which
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was his trainer for all
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the Rockies and Rambo's. And
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he set me up with George, who
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was Mr. Cheka Slovakia four years in
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a row. And when
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steroids came into the business, he
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quit the business and came to America,
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met Sly, he built every machine in
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his gym, and he taught me to
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train. But by the time I
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was about 38, I
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was 255, which
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I call Elvis dying weight, because
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I was miserable in that marriage.
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So I was just fat. Thank
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God I was able to exercise a little because
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of what George taught me. But it
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wasn't until my fifties that
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I just really got into it. And
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I leaned out. You look great, man.
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I try, you know what I mean? You
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exercise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
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do weights, I do cardio
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stuff, I ride a bike, go on
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runs. All right, so when you do
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weights, do you do heavy
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reps? No, I don't really
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do heavy. See, that's the, no, no, I mean
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a lot of repetition. Oh, oh, yeah. So I
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have a heavy weight heavy reps. Yeah. Yeah, like
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every set I do is between 15 and 21
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reps No matter what
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I do. Okay, you know, it's just and
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and that's how you stay like leaner and
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I don't even know why we're talking about. I
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don't know we were talking about gambling two minutes
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ago Let's talk again. I want to talk about
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you because I met you For
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you know two minutes at the Bill Burr
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we read and sure we were in New
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York It was awesome
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because it was a surprise for the audience was surprised for me
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too. I was just stopping by Bill's
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show at MSG and I'm
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sitting there in the wings and then I see
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you well, they go. Oh dice is gonna do
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a surprise set in here I was like no
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so I just grabbed you real quick and I was
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I mean it was awesome because You
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know for everything that's happening and comedy
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has never been this big right like
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globally And there's fucking 15
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people doing arenas and there's 40 plus
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doing theaters It's insane But you're
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the guy that all of us
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like when when arenas were
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even discussed It seems like
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such a far-fetched thing. We're like, yeah I
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mean like it was something that you did
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you did that, you know I never thought
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when I did like I know I'm the
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first guy that did it. Yeah, okay, and
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that was my dream.
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Yeah, okay, and so I
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never thought at that time that it's
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gonna become the norm For
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when comics get big it's gonna be
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arenas. Yeah, you know and Rogan always
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talks about it on his show He
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goes he goes I forgot who
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told me he goes Rogan said the garden
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is the is the home that
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dice built Sure that every comic no
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matter how many arenas they do
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they got to play the garden because
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dice played the garden so It
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was it was a funny thing with Bill Burr because
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I love his comedy
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Yeah, and I said to my sugarplum. He
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was playing out in Jersey at the Prudential
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Center and I said, you
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know, I know Bill really
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likes what I do so I'll text
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him if he's gonna feel odd that
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I come to his show I won't go. Yeah. Because
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I know how I would feel like when Rodney would
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show up. Sure. You feel you got to be better
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than you are type of thing. Yeah, yeah. You
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know, so uh, he goes, no I want you
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to come. So all
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the way there, you know, I'm teasing her
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because I could really get
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her. Uh-huh. You know, and I'm
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in, I'm in what I call
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my dress-up motorcycle jacket, you know,
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my going out for dinner. Sure.
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Not necessarily on stage, you know,
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and I go, yeah, I haven't done arenas since,
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you know, I went back to the garden in
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2000. I sold out the beacon and
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the garden in the same week, you
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know, in the year 2000 and had nothing
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going on in the business. Uh-huh. And I
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just did it. So that's,
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that's 24 years ago. Yeah. So I
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said, oh, I haven't done, I haven't
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done an arena since 2000 and,
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and all the way there. She's going, it's,
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it's, it's not your show. You're
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not performing. Like she thinks I'm
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losing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love to do
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that to people to just put them on. Yeah.
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Like I do in the street when I come
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over. Boys, you,
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you have, it is,
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it's become everybody's favorite IG account. And I
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got to tell you this, cause for people
9:26
who don't know, it's so, it's so worth
9:29
a dive into because it's, it's like
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these real genuine organic moments where you're
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like, you want to pitch and
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people are like, what? They gotta go.
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We got an Andrew Dice Clay. What is it? I
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don't even know. The Instagram. What
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is this Instagram? What's it
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called? What is it? What is my site called?
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It's at, it's at Andrew Dice Clay. Okay. And
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it is, it is my
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personal favorite Instagram
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account where you just walk
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up to anybody and
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you're like, are you here for the thing? And they're like,
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what? I got addicted
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to it because I'm in New York a
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lot and I just love
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since I'm a kid to mess with people.
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I can't help myself and I used
10:11
to do it with a video camera and
10:14
you know with the DV tapes
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but it wasn't going up on
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phones. Again,
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Rogan was sort of a new comic at
10:23
the store and I'm filming
10:25
every night I changed the lighting in
10:27
the comedy store in the kitchen red
10:30
blue green like it's a set rather
10:32
than the stark lighting you know. So
10:34
one night
10:37
Rogan walks over and he goes can
10:39
I ask you something? Because it was all the
10:41
new comics that are like like
10:44
hotter today like Bobby Lee
10:46
and Ari Shafir and Sebastian
10:48
all these guys were new
10:50
comics. So he comes
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off he goes can I ask what
10:54
you're filming every night? You know I
10:57
go oh it's the show it's you
10:59
know my show and he goes
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what's it on? I go
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oh nothing really and he
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just starts laughing three nights later he's
11:08
got a guy with a camera filming
11:10
him. Yeah you know not what I
11:12
was doing but like that's
11:14
why he's so smart he catches on
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to stuff. But now when the phones
11:19
came out you know when
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I went back to New York I was
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you know I just walked over to
11:26
some unsuspecting are you the one
11:28
and I don't act like this you
11:31
know he's almost like are you the
11:33
one he's almost like the slow guy
11:35
in the neighborhood. Yeah yeah totally. So
11:37
I come over I go excuse are
11:39
you the one that wanted the they
11:41
said you wanted the picture and
11:44
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feels like, it feels like you're
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sharing something that is genuinely for you. Like
15:31
that you're getting the kick out
15:33
of doing it. I can't do it enough.
15:35
Yeah. I'm addicted to it. Please
15:38
never stop. It's the funniest thing. Well, this is
15:40
the thing, when I do leave the apartment, you
15:43
know, my sweetheart will
15:45
always say she'll go, just
15:47
do me a favor, make sure you could
15:49
kick their ass, whoever it is. Because
15:52
I have had some problems with people
15:54
getting my face, you know,
15:56
and I'm like, I got to get out of this.
15:58
Really? the dumber I
16:01
play, the more they're thinking, oh,
16:03
there's something wrong with this guy, just walk
16:05
away. But
16:07
I do like, I
16:10
forgot, I
16:12
forgot what I had out years ago.
16:14
It's something you don't need in your
16:16
body. It was
16:19
an operation. Like an
16:21
appendix? It's not the appendix though,
16:23
it's a- Spleen? What,
16:25
babe, what's that thing? What
16:30
is it? Just
16:34
gel it. She's
16:38
in the other room, but if she says something,
16:40
they'll send me a message. No,
16:42
just what's it called? Somebody
16:46
find out. We'll
16:49
go ask her. I thought she's
16:51
watching. She's watching, but she's probably, she's
16:53
lying. She's, oh,
16:56
okay. So anyway,
16:58
I'm walking by, number
17:03
one, I just hung up the
17:05
phone with
17:08
the comic bread guy I'm from. Yeah, yeah, sure.
17:10
So he's like, what are you doing? I go,
17:12
I just knew I had a fight with a
17:15
guy. He goes, where
17:17
are you? I go, I'm at a bus stop. He goes, you're
17:20
a legendary, why are you at a bus stop? What
17:23
are you doing with your life? So
17:25
what happened is I'm walking by this guy
17:29
and I hear him on the phone. He's
17:31
talking about doctor stuff. You
17:33
know, like, I don't know about his wife or something.
17:35
And that's all I got to hear. So
17:38
I come back, I get my phone on. I'm
17:40
going, excuse me. You're
17:43
the one that wanted to talk about, you
17:45
know, I have my appendix out. You
17:47
know, you needed to talk about it. You wanted to meet with
17:50
me. Guy couldn't get away quick
17:52
enough. Yeah, he couldn't, you
17:54
know, like a 45, 50 year old man with
17:57
a backpack asshole, you know, which
17:59
is. little walk away scooter. And
18:03
so I just loved it because he's
18:05
jumping like what? No,
18:07
I don't need you. I'm in the middle
18:09
of this like, who are you? But that's
18:12
what I love. And Jim Norton knows better
18:14
than anybody my whole life. I just love
18:16
to bother people. Yeah, it's a different sense
18:18
of humor than the one I use on
18:21
stage. Yeah. It's the one
18:23
I was using in the car going to
18:26
see Bill, you know, to
18:28
my own girl. Yeah, going, No, you
18:30
know, I don't know. I didn't put
18:32
anything together, you know, and
18:34
she's going, it's not your show. We're going
18:36
to watch the show. Sure. She
18:39
goes, I don't know. Maybe he'd want you to
18:41
introduce him. I don't know. Like she
18:43
just wanted to stop talking about it. But
18:46
the joke was on me because I get
18:48
there. And the minute I walk into his
18:50
dressing room, and you know, Bill, he's a
18:52
great guy. Totally. As a guy, he's a
18:54
great guy. And he goes, he
18:57
just gets up with this big smile. He goes,
18:59
dice, you're gonna do some time, right? So
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I'm like, my stomach dropped. Yeah, I'll
19:04
be honest with you know, I'll
19:07
do 1500 seat theaters, 2000 seats
19:09
or clubs. That's what I do
19:11
now. And he goes, and I go,
19:14
No, no, no, no, no. Not a joke.
19:16
So I go, I'm not I'm not going up. That's
19:18
not what I'm here. He goes, No, you you got
19:20
to go up. You got to do time, right. And
19:23
then I get introduced and the minute
19:25
I went up, the place went nuts.
19:27
It went Jersey. No, this is Jersey
19:29
show. Okay. And
19:31
because I've been thinking about like, maybe
19:34
going bigger again. And
19:37
but you know, you get a little old, it's
19:39
like, no matter how you train, you know,
19:42
you're still a little older, like, you know,
19:44
to face those kinds of crowds, which you
19:46
know, because you're doing it. Yeah, yeah. You
19:48
know, it takes like, how old are you?
19:50
I'm 45. Okay, yeah,
19:53
45. You're nothing. You're
19:55
not you're a child as far That's what happens
19:57
when you hit like 60. You
19:59
know, You look at a 45-year-old guy
20:01
going, because I remember my father telling
20:04
me, at that age, he goes, you
20:06
don't even realize how young you are.
20:08
You're a kid. You know,
20:10
that's how the older generation, you know, that's just
20:13
how it goes. So I go
20:15
on the stage, I kill the crowd, and
20:18
my girlfriend's like, you see, you can
20:20
do it. See, that
20:22
was nothing for you. All
20:24
right, so I don't know if it was
20:26
two weeks later. Now, like
20:29
I told you, I became friends with Guns N' Roses
20:31
in 88. So
20:33
around 92, I get
20:36
a call from Axel. He's
20:38
doing the, but I was
20:40
friends with them. I'd go to the
20:42
rehearsal studios, I'd sit in, jam with
20:44
them on the drums. Yeah, at the
20:46
rehearsal place with Slash and Duff. They'd
20:50
come to my apartment three in the morning,
20:52
we'd go to the rock and roll Ralphs
20:54
on Sunset, and I'd annoy people in the
20:56
parking lot, only without the
20:58
phone. So I
21:00
get a call, and I was
21:03
starting to get claustrophobic in the
21:05
arenas. It was already
21:07
like three or four years of arenas,
21:10
and he goes,
21:12
I'm doing, this is Axel Rose
21:15
talking common sense now. The
21:18
Axel you know. He goes, I'm
21:20
doing the Rose Bowl, and
21:22
I want you to be our guest,
21:26
you know, and go on F the
21:28
Metallica. Oh my fucking God. And I'm
21:30
going, I can't do it Axel. I
21:32
go, just being closed in like that,
21:34
you know. He goes, DICE, it's
21:36
gonna be over 100,000 people. You
21:40
know, he goes, and you're gonna be outside. He
21:42
goes, just look at the stars. So
21:45
it made sense to me. So I
21:47
come out, and the minute I came out to
21:49
We Will Rock You, and
21:51
the whole audience got up. You
21:54
know, it was amazing, an amazing feeling. So
21:57
now here we are all these years late. I just
21:59
did the. Bill Burt thing it was like this
22:01
past November or something. And
22:04
so now I get a call on
22:06
a Monday night from their road manager
22:09
that they're gonna be at the MetLife, which
22:11
is the old giant stadium in Jersey.
22:14
This is in like beginning
22:16
of December. We want,
22:18
here's a special guest, can you do it? And
22:21
I'm like, tomorrow night. And
22:25
you know my girlfriend's like, she also
22:27
watches out for me, my health, everything.
22:31
And she goes, you don't have to do it. I go, yeah,
22:33
but I do. Yeah, so I
22:35
show up at MetLife, 60,000 people
22:37
or more, something
22:40
like that. Now I don't see
22:43
him, because I'm in a dressing room hanging with
22:45
Duff. And now when Tom
22:47
Mayhew, the road manager, goes, all right, it's
22:49
time. As we're walking, I'm
22:52
seeing through the bleaches, just
22:54
as far as the eye could see. And
22:57
I'm going, oh my God. I
23:00
go, and I'm thinking, well,
23:03
these are the stories I told my
23:05
girlfriend. She's now getting to see it.
23:08
So let them have it. And
23:10
I even look, when I look at the video
23:12
so little, walking out to
23:14
that crowd, and they went nuts. But
23:17
the difference is, it's not
23:19
a comedy crowd. They're not there
23:22
for comedy. They're there for rock
23:24
and roll. So you're taking a
23:26
chance. Definitely. And I slammed
23:28
them for about 15 minutes. So
23:32
now I see Bill Burr is coming
23:34
to the garden in December, and
23:37
I called him, because that
23:39
is my place. And
23:44
he goes, Dikes, you wanna be
23:46
my special guest? You got it. That's how
23:48
simple it is to him. And
23:53
that's where I meet you. I
23:56
think right before I was going on. Right before you went
23:58
on stage, man. I
24:01
remember, and it was just easy,
24:04
you know, that's how I felt about
24:06
it, and I remember his manager telling
24:08
me after, he goes, you
24:11
just played an arena like it's a 200-seat club.
24:15
You're heckling people, you're picking on
24:17
people. Like he loved
24:19
when I looked at a girl, remind me
24:21
to pinch your tits after the show, and
24:23
the place went fucking nuts. I
24:26
did. You know, I want to feel my
24:28
balls banging against your little pop socket over
24:30
there. And he's going, who
24:32
does that? It's an arena. That's fucking crazy.
24:34
And Bill was so funny, because when he
24:36
came up after, he goes, well, it's nice
24:39
to see DICE's mellowed in age. But
24:43
that really did turn the switch on, because
24:46
a lot of people would call me
24:48
like the rocky of comedy type of
24:51
thing. So I get that
24:53
in me. So now
24:55
there's, you know how you don't mention deals
24:58
until there's a deal? So
25:00
there is someone I'm talking to, a guy
25:03
you would call a rainmaker, that said,
25:05
you know, if you want to do
25:07
this, let's do it. He
25:10
goes, it'll be bigger than life. So
25:12
you'll go on an arena tour? I might. I
25:15
might. You know, right now, I'm
25:17
happy. I can't wait to do the mothership tonight.
25:19
So fun. I love being on top
25:21
of them, but I also, you know,
25:23
sometimes a comic, as you know,
25:26
people you know, the fire burns
25:28
out. And you watch him
25:30
on stage, and you go, he's just phoning it
25:32
in. See, I'm not that
25:34
guy. Like I even got
25:36
dressed to come here. I want to look
25:38
a certain way for you. I didn't want
25:40
to come here just, you know, out of
25:42
bed and laying back with a pair of
25:44
hands. I can't do it like that. You
25:47
know, you're somebody I really like. You know, I
25:50
love that I'm on here. I wish
25:52
Bert was here with us, but I've
25:54
done his podcast, you know, and
25:56
but I think both of you were so great.
25:59
I love that you got your This is your
26:01
new lawn? Yeah, this is Arvada, yeah man. Tell
26:03
me about this, I wanna know about it. Poor
26:05
Osos, man, we make it here in Texas. It's
26:08
wheat-based, I don't know if you're into
26:13
some of the little nuances of Arvada,
26:15
but usually they're corn or wheat-based. This
26:18
is a higher caliber. It's
26:20
distilled, proprietary distilled, and
26:23
we're going all over the place, man. We're
26:25
just, we're, every day we're in the state.
26:27
You should. This is, like
26:30
they say, this is your time. How
26:32
does that feel? It feels, it is
26:34
like, you know. When did it start
26:36
for you, coming up now? For me,
26:40
it is, I think I'm lucky in that I
26:42
didn't get on a rocket ship that just went
26:44
to the fucking moon one day. It
26:46
was a nice, gradual build. I
26:48
did a special in
26:51
2013, and it
26:53
was supposed, it wasn't considered a big
26:56
thing, it wasn't a thing to get Netflix then.
26:59
Netflix was like, oh, you got Netflix. Because Comedy
27:02
Central turned you down, and Showtime turned you down, and
27:04
I was like, all right, I guess I'll do Netflix.
27:07
So it goes, it was like that. I
27:09
was like, they're like, Netflix said yes. So
27:11
it came out in 2014, and by the end of 2014, I
27:16
was selling out clubs, which was, I'd never
27:18
sold tickets before, so I was like, this
27:21
is un-fucking believable. It's a great feeling, though.
27:23
It's the best feeling, and by early 2015,
27:28
we could sell out the whole weekend, add
27:30
shows and sell them out, and we started to, later
27:33
in 2015, start to do rock clubs and small theaters.
27:38
And then the next special came out in 2016, and
27:40
it was a gradual bump
27:43
up. So then it was proper theaters for
27:45
the next tour. And
27:47
then you did that for a while. And then, so
27:50
it's been like that of every tour,
27:53
the venues got bigger, and on the last tour,
27:55
we were doing really
27:57
big theaters and some arenas, and then this
27:59
tour. There has been arenas
28:01
and amphitheaters and stuff. So like, but it was
28:03
a small way to get it. And
28:06
when you're in the arenas, how do you feel up there?
28:08
I mean, it is
28:10
kind of surreal. And then this weird
28:12
thing happens where, once you're
28:15
doing them for like a few months,
28:17
I mean, it's always a thing when you pull up
28:19
and you're like, shit, this is where the fucking Rockets
28:21
play? This is crazy, you know? And you're like, you're
28:23
in the tunnel and you see like the NBA
28:26
media room. And you're like, that's nuts. But
28:29
there's this thing I think where, there's
28:31
still the same thing I think when you do clubs, theaters
28:33
and arenas, when I always do the voice
28:36
of God mic for whoever's opening. And
28:38
whenever you go like, like
28:40
how's it going tonight, Cincinnati? The
28:43
level of them going, you
28:45
look and you're like, this is gonna be a hot show. Or
28:48
sometimes you go like, how's it going? And they're like, so so.
28:50
And you're like, yeah. See, I judge
28:52
it by, you know, Eleanor Kerrigan who
28:54
is my feature. I always
28:56
judge it by her set. Sure.
29:00
You know, and I could tell if it's
29:02
that, you know, that intensity or if the,
29:05
oh man, let's just
29:07
get done. Yeah, exactly. And
29:10
let's just get done. I think the
29:12
surprise is that it stays that way
29:14
through every size venue. It doesn't, it's
29:16
just sometimes you're, now the thing that
29:19
I learned over years of doing standup
29:21
is that when you feel like they're
29:23
so so, you don't tell them,
29:26
don't tell them you're so so. You
29:29
leave some of those shows where you're
29:31
like, yeah, their energy was fine. And
29:33
they think that was great.
29:36
Well, see, the way
29:38
I think, you know, everybody's
29:40
got their own watch. Sure. If
29:43
they're not doing the right,
29:46
see, they used to say when you
29:48
start out in comedy, don't ever blame
29:50
the crowd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, you
29:53
do blame the crowd. Oh, I think, I think. I
29:56
always, I never could get past that.
29:59
You know, some. crowds are amazing like
30:01
did they know each other right
30:03
now and some crowds are OK
30:05
like how does that work. Yeah,
30:07
I mean I've for sure if
30:09
they're not good. Yeah, there's
30:11
no it's just like going over to somebody
30:14
in the street. Yeah, you know that's not
30:16
even going to know me yeah, you know
30:18
and I get pleasure out of that of
30:20
them walking away going. I have no idea
30:22
who you are like I don't know what
30:25
you want. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, so
30:27
they're not good. Yeah, I go you
30:29
know you're an awful crowd
30:31
right you do that you know you're
30:33
terrible. I got the crowd last
30:36
night, yeah was unreal I want to
30:38
go home and hang out with them.
30:40
Yeah, I can't wait to get away
30:42
from you people. I
30:44
know what I do is amazing. I
30:47
go I know how great I am
30:50
always known that since I'm a kid
30:52
I go you're terrible you suck as
30:54
a matter of fact. I'm
30:57
going to start throwing some people out
30:59
you know and I'll get security to
31:01
make an example go you see this
31:03
guy this big fat fuck in
31:06
the front. You know that's
31:08
been looking down at a kitchen table as whole
31:10
fucking I want to matter here. He bothers me
31:12
and the guys looking
31:14
like it's a joke and then you can
31:16
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31:18
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31:21
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33:50
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33:55
we all scroll the reels. Sure,
33:57
yeah. you
34:00
know lately, you know that
34:03
you saw the girl, the hot
34:05
two-way girl. Sure. You
34:07
know, and I'm looking at that going,
34:10
boy her dad must be so
34:12
thrilled with her. Look
34:14
what he brought up. Yeah, spit on
34:16
that thing. Now I haven't done that
34:18
bit on stage, but every time I
34:20
see her, I get angrier. Yeah. You
34:23
know, because I'm going, number one, nothing
34:25
sexy. Yeah. She was
34:28
a sexy hot chick with big pig
34:30
tits. That would be different
34:32
to me, you know what I mean?
34:34
Definitely. But when she's just this skinny
34:36
little blonde girl, I'm going, so that's
34:39
it? That's your claim to
34:41
affect it? Does she understand? Forever.
34:44
Forever. Any guy that takes
34:46
her out is waiting for her
34:49
to just spit on his dick. Yeah, forever.
34:51
That's who she is. Yeah, yeah. And not
34:53
that. She's going, all right, so you did
34:55
the little spit. What do you think I
34:57
know about? Spit on my dick, honey? You
35:00
know what I mean? Can you spit
35:02
from above? Can you stand above the
35:04
bed and hit the tip of my
35:07
fucking dick? That's what I'm thinking. And
35:09
then what about the drooling? Yeah. And
35:12
the choking that goes along with the experience? She
35:14
didn't say any of that. Nothing. She
35:17
did a little, I would throw her out
35:19
of my house for that. I
35:21
go, come back when you get experience. And
35:24
that's what the world makes a deal
35:26
out of today. But the father that
35:28
brought her up, that
35:31
had her on his knee, her
35:33
fifth birthday, and her
35:35
sweet 16, his cute little girl,
35:38
and she comes back from college and
35:40
all she learned or got was a
35:43
degree in dick sucking and
35:45
doesn't want to work. And the best she's ever going
35:48
to do is getting on, what
35:50
is that, OnlyFans? Yeah, yeah. That's
35:53
the job. That's the fucking. You know what I mean?
35:55
So I get angry and then it becomes a bit,
35:58
which I think right now. We did it
36:00
just did you know what I mean? Yeah, but
36:02
yeah when I see that stuff. I just get
36:04
angry at it Well, it's
36:06
it's um, you know, we're celebrating Mediocrity
36:09
at that point right? This is just somebody
36:11
just saying some bullshit I mean, you know
36:14
it's charming in the moment, but the fact
36:16
that like she got a platform
36:18
because of that pretty crazy well now Just
36:21
there's another one and this I
36:23
have thought about it I'm not even gonna do
36:25
it now cuz it is an actual bit. Yeah,
36:28
but it hasn't been done I never You
36:31
know, I know comics they go when they
36:33
rehearse My you know, like
36:36
like to the cellar and all that and here, you
36:38
know, you got the mothership and all the club I
36:41
don't I don't do that anymore. Yeah, I'll
36:43
think of something and I'll
36:45
wait to be on stage and if
36:48
it bombs then so be it you
36:50
know, but then it kills and Eleanor
36:52
after the show goes you haven't been on
36:54
stage in three months and you
36:57
leveled the room with that bit How
36:59
do you do that? Yeah, I just know myself
37:01
so Lately and I
37:04
won't go into but I will say on the
37:06
other side there's you know the actor Steve Gutenberg
37:08
Yeah, you see him on the feed Do
37:11
I see Steve on the field? Yeah, so his
37:13
whole thing is about
37:15
how he's just grateful You
37:18
know, he walks the street and he'll go. Oh,
37:20
I just Picked a
37:23
lemon or for lemon tree or by
37:25
myself You know
37:27
that he's able to do these
37:30
things He's and he's physically able
37:32
and it's sunny out and I
37:34
was in an uber in New York And
37:36
the guy started doing it like
37:39
the driver. I'm just going to the gym. I don't
37:41
want to be bothered I don't want to talk to
37:43
you. I don't want to know you Nick and he
37:45
goes, how are you today, sir?
37:47
And I'm like, you know good, you
37:49
know, can you put on the music put on 70s,
37:51
you know? I'm trying
37:53
to like forget him, you know, and
37:56
then he goes Well, I feel good.
37:58
I was able to get out of bed today and
38:00
put my pants on by myself, I
38:03
go, yeah, that's what we do, okay?
38:06
I don't wanna talk, you know, but
38:08
I'm angry at Gutenberg. No,
38:10
it's like, yeah, I get it,
38:12
you showered. I watched my balls
38:14
all by myself, you know what
38:16
I mean? But that's where
38:19
I get it from. I walk around
38:21
and I get angry, and
38:23
it's like this build up till I get on
38:25
a stage somewhere to do an actual show, and
38:28
then I'll see what happens. But
38:31
when the drivers tell me, yeah,
38:33
I'm so happy, I opened my
38:35
eyes this morning, and I'm thinking,
38:37
I wish you didn't, because
38:39
if you didn't, I'd have another driver that
38:41
would know to keep his fucking mouth shut.
38:44
You know what I mean? I hate small talk with the
38:46
driver. I don't like small talk. I
38:48
hate it so much. How are
38:50
you today? What do you care? No, don't chat
38:52
me out. Anyway, so, do
38:54
you know that, did
38:57
you ever do Diaz's podcast
38:59
in his, Joey Diaz? Oh
39:01
yeah, a lot. Did you
39:03
ever partake in an edible? No,
39:07
no, no, I can't. So he's another
39:09
world, right? He's
39:12
another level. So I go to his one time, and he's
39:14
like, eat
39:18
one of these, eat a star of death. And
39:20
I go, I don't fucking, I'm not eating a
39:23
star of death. And he goes, eat one of
39:25
the corners. So he cuts, I go, fuck
39:27
that. So he cuts it in another piece. Stop
39:29
being a pussy. I'm like, all right. So I
39:31
eat like the tiniest fucking thing. I
39:34
do it, and I feel fine for
39:36
a while. And then as the podcast is ending,
39:39
hour and a half or something later, I'm
39:41
like, oh shit, I'm fucking, I'm
39:43
hot. You're toast. I'm toast. So
39:46
I'm like, all right, man. And I get
39:48
out of there, and I get in my car, and
39:51
we're in the valley, and I'm
39:53
supposed to, at the time we're living in Redondo Beach,
39:56
and I'm like. Oh, and you gotta go, I know where
39:58
that studio was. Oh, fuck. So
40:00
I I'm going to the freeway. I pass
40:03
the exit Fuck
40:06
so I turn around and I'm listening to her take
40:08
a left here. I passed it a second time So
40:11
I'm like shit. So I call my wife. I'm like,
40:13
here's what's going on. I don't
40:15
know what to do I can't do this. She goes
40:17
pull over somewhere and And
40:20
just call an uber and leave your car
40:22
there and I go. Okay, so
40:25
I pull into a Ralph's on Ventura,
40:28
oh Okay, bro
40:31
I'm out of my mind high at this point
40:34
cuz I'm getting higher still and
40:36
I'm like shit and I'm like
40:38
are these my hands, you know and
40:41
I look over I look over like this
40:43
and Two spaces
40:45
over it's you And
40:48
I'm like I
40:51
was so fucking scared. I was like am I
40:53
hallucinating or is that a red dice? Near
40:56
Starbucks on Ventura did and so I'm like
40:58
I'm like and then I call her back
41:00
I'm like, I think dice is is in
41:02
the car over there and she's like, hey,
41:04
man I don't know what you're saying right
41:06
now, but get that uber like get that
41:08
uber right now And and and
41:10
I see you look at me a couple
41:12
times and I'm like and then I get
41:14
scared and I keep staring I feel bad.
41:16
I'm freaking out and then I I
41:18
call an uber Lady
41:21
drives me the whole time. I'm in the car. We
41:23
didn't talk we didn't connect No,
41:25
we didn't talk. I mean I was incapable. I
41:27
think I would have I was so
41:29
high that I was beyond Paranoid
41:31
at that point got it. So I just sat
41:33
in the back of the uber and told the
41:35
lady how amazing it was that she Could drive,
41:37
you know, he's just a different
41:39
level a whole other like I
41:42
could remember, you know Where
41:45
you know, I'd smoke, you know and
41:47
I got the munchy and I would
41:49
never have like edibles Yeah, but his
41:52
at this place I went to they
41:54
gave me a bag of popcorn Okay,
41:58
so I got the munchies And
42:01
I ate the bag and I
42:03
slept for 19 hours True
42:06
story cuz it was just too much. So
42:08
I don't like to do the edible stuff,
42:10
you know, he's fucked me more than once
42:13
Yeah, no, I've seen him do like Like
42:16
if I did a gummy,
42:18
yeah would be like a five.
42:20
Yeah, no, I you know
42:23
I've seen him do 250 in one
42:25
shot. He gave me a thousand one time
42:27
I said, how do you do that? And
42:29
what it doesn't he's got
42:31
the tolerance but here's the thing I
42:33
thought that he has the
42:36
tolerance and Doesn't feel
42:38
the panic that we all feel. No,
42:40
he feels that panic and enjoys
42:44
riding That way
42:46
so the thing that scares you he's like
42:48
I kind of like feeling like that if
42:51
I do anything It's a like, you know,
42:53
it's a melon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
42:55
I don't want no sativa I have no
42:58
tolerance For alcohol
43:00
went out the old night with my
43:02
girl It's like,
43:05
you know, I'm supposed to be diced as you know,
43:07
yeah, you went out with me You'd go he
43:09
took two sips of a rum and coke Look
43:12
at him. Yes falling on the floor. I
43:15
just don't have tolerance You
43:17
know and not that she's a
43:19
drink. We hardly ever drink but she can
43:22
hold her liquor, you know I'm
43:24
just not she would love the vodka. That's
43:26
her thing. But you
43:28
know, I just never had tolerance for
43:30
any of it Yeah, you know, it's
43:32
just who I am, you know Yeah,
43:35
but you're and so you everybody as
43:37
soon as associates you and right before
43:39
we recorded was smoking Yeah, and
43:41
you know you still you always did the movement
43:43
and everybody was like, yeah The the dice cigarette
43:46
stuff and you still have it but you quit.
43:48
How did you quit you quit in one day?
43:50
You said in one day. I just well
43:52
I Quit
43:55
more than once. Okay, the first time
43:57
I quit my kids were real young
44:00
And I was also a very heavy
44:02
blackjack player. So I do enjoy
44:04
Dana. I love blackjack. Dana
44:07
White. Yeah. Watching the clips.
44:09
Yeah. You know, I mean, he really, you know,
44:11
300,000 a hand. It's
44:13
fucking crazy. I'm going, oh my God, you know. It's crazy.
44:16
But I played heavy. You
44:18
know, I could win or lose a half
44:20
a million in a night. Didn't make a
44:22
difference, you know. And
44:26
that was even one night when I, you know,
44:28
I did Bally's in Vegas for 13 years. I
44:31
did all the big holidays like five times a
44:33
year. Yeah. You know, so they
44:36
were paying me millions. So it
44:38
meant nothing to gamble, win or lose, you
44:40
know. And that was just Vegas, not
44:42
the arenas, you know. Vegas
44:45
was like the relaxing gig. Right.
44:47
But yet I'd be at a table playing like an animal,
44:49
you know. Let me
44:52
ask you one thing about blackjack. Because we play blackjack
44:54
every time we do a casino gig, we always go play
44:57
blackjack. The whole crew that we go with. There's
45:00
a thing where there's just
45:02
like nights where you're
45:04
there and you're winning more
45:06
hands, right. You're just, you're on a good
45:08
streak. And subsequently
45:12
there's other nights where
45:14
you're like, fucking, I can't win
45:16
a hand. And ultimately I think like
45:18
the logical thing is to go, look
45:20
man, it's just, it's gambling. You're
45:22
going to have good shoes and bad shoes. Like,
45:24
do you see it that
45:26
way? My thing about gambling is you
45:28
got to be willing to lose everything
45:30
in front of you to win. You
45:34
know, can't play scared. No. Can't
45:36
play drunk and you can't play tired or angry. And
45:38
do you have a walk away time? No, but do
45:41
you see what I'm saying? Sure. Those
45:43
are the rules. No, no tired. So if
45:45
you do lose, you can't say, well it's
45:48
because I've been arguing with my chick
45:50
all day. You know, I had a bit, you
45:52
lose because you just lost and you got to
45:55
be willing to. Yeah. And there
45:57
are days you get 20. the
46:00
deal gets 21. Yeah. You
46:02
know, but I do, you
46:04
know, and I haven't played in a
46:06
long time either, but you
46:09
know, I have such, I mean, that was one
46:11
night I was playing Bally's, my
46:14
opening act at that time was Wheels Parisi,
46:16
I don't know if you know. Yeah, Wheels,
46:18
yeah. Okay, so Wheels is actually on stage
46:21
at Bally's. I'm
46:24
at Caesar's Palace,
46:26
and my bodyguard, Club
46:29
Soda Kenny, who works for Bill now, and
46:33
I'm in the dice rules jacket that I wore
46:35
at the garden. That's how I'm playing, you
46:38
know, and so
46:40
he goes, I think it's time we
46:42
go to the show. He's
46:45
only got five minutes left, and they have
46:47
a limo waiting, and
46:50
so now I'm on stage, because I was winning,
46:52
I didn't even want to leave, and
46:56
so I'm on stage with over
46:58
$350,000 of chips, of
47:02
winnings, you know, in my
47:04
pocket, that I can't wait to get done with the
47:06
show and go back and get more, because it was
47:08
one of those nights. But
47:10
one time with Wheels, I get to Vegas,
47:13
I'll just tell you this one story, and
47:16
I sit right here where I am now. Wheels
47:18
is where you are. I always sit at the end,
47:20
I don't let anybody else play.
47:23
I have the whole table, and
47:25
I got into Vegas, and I
47:27
lost, I don't know, 150,000
47:32
in a few minutes, that's how fast it goes. Yeah.
47:37
So the next day, we're all at the
47:39
pool, and they would like, you know, the
47:41
red velvet ropes, whatever, and
47:44
we're with all these people, you know, my
47:46
girl, my, you know, I had a baby at
47:48
the time, whatever, and I
47:51
say to Wheels, I go, you got any money on ya?
47:54
And he goes, I got $20, you know, I go, that's
47:57
enough, let's get out of here. Jump in the
47:59
cab, we got a maroon. And at the Mirage
48:01
I have a $75,000 line of credit.
48:07
So they give me the $75,000 and
48:09
I'm playing this guy and it's a
48:12
male pit boss. This
48:14
is in the days when
48:16
supposedly women hated dice type of
48:18
thing. And
48:22
so I'm at the table and I'm losing
48:24
to this one dealer and I'm playing $5,000
48:26
a hand. So it's not
48:28
that many ships. But
48:31
I said to the pit boss, because they would
48:33
hold the cards like this rather than pointed at
48:35
you to cut them. And
48:38
I said, would it be all right if the
48:40
dealer faced the cards at me and the pit
48:42
boss was gold? And he let
48:44
it happen. I'm
48:46
still losing. They
48:48
switched dealer and pit
48:51
boss. And it was
48:53
this black man, his name was Archie. He was
48:55
from Louisiana. I'll never forget this guy. He was
48:57
a nice guy and a
48:59
female pit boss. He
49:02
shuffles whatever and
49:04
puts the cards and I asked
49:06
him to turn the cards and he
49:08
goes, we're not allowed. And I said to
49:11
the lady, I go, would it be okay
49:14
if Archie turned the cards towards me? And
49:16
she goes, no. So
49:18
I know she's a dice hater. I
49:21
go, well, the other pit boss didn't have a
49:23
problem and I'm trying to be nice. I'm not
49:25
being dicey and being Andrew. And
49:29
she goes, well, I do have a problem with it. So
49:32
I go, really? And
49:34
I'm looking at her and I go, let
49:36
me tell you something. You'll
49:39
be lucky if you still have a job when I'm
49:41
done here. And I go, wheels,
49:44
get up. Come sit
49:46
here. And I go there and I lean across.
49:48
I made like a whole deal out of it.
49:51
And I cut the cards from leaning across the
49:53
table so I could cut it the way I
49:55
want. Wheels, get up, go
49:57
back to your seat. Now
49:59
I look. look at the dealer and I
50:01
go, okay, Archie, this is how it
50:04
comes down. And I go,
50:06
and don't stop the game for any reason,
50:08
you don't need more chips. When I'm done
50:10
taking those, I'm outta here. There were two
50:12
rows of $5,000 chips and
50:16
I'm down to six chips, 30 grand. And
50:21
I said to Archie, I go, you
50:23
see those last two chips
50:26
on the second row, that's your
50:28
tip. How does that sound? Now
50:32
I'm angry, you know,
50:34
but my energy came up
50:36
because of the horatitude. Yeah.
50:39
And we stopped playing, and Wills couldn't even
50:41
believe what he was seeing, you know, because
50:44
I'm basically winning 95% of all
50:46
the hands. Okay,
50:51
so what happens is we're
50:54
down to those chips and
50:56
I'm not stacking them, I'm just piling them
50:58
on. I don't even know
51:00
how much is there, but I took the 75, I
51:03
made a little stack here. So
51:06
no way I'm losing anything. Yeah, yeah.
51:08
And I got a big pile of chips.
51:11
I go, okay, Archie, this is what we're gonna do. I
51:15
go, I'm gonna want a blackjack, okay? This is
51:17
how it's gonna go. I want the King
51:20
of Hearts and the Ace
51:22
of Spades in that order. How's
51:24
that sound? I go,
51:27
you could do that, can't you? And
51:29
I look at the pit boss, this lady who is
51:31
now like, she can't even believe it, you know. I
51:34
go, but I'll tell you what, honey, now
51:36
I'm not even, you know, now it's honey, you
51:38
know, which she hated. My name's not
51:41
honey, well to me, I don't know your name and I don't care,
51:43
but I'll tell you what I'll do. I
51:45
don't know what you make a year, but
51:48
I'll bet all this against
51:51
whatever it is you make, which,
51:53
well, what is it? 30
51:55
grand, 40 grand, whatever it is. I
51:58
go, I'll bet all this, I pull those cards. exactly
52:00
the way I said it. How's that sound, honey? And
52:03
she's like, we're not allowed
52:05
to be, okay, all right. Archie, when you give
52:08
me the king, you know,
52:10
do me a favor, because I like to
52:13
make a little sound effect. You
52:15
know, that's just the way I am. So
52:17
do it slow, like slow motion. You could
52:19
do that, right, Archie? It's your money. So
52:22
I go, all right, give me the king of hearts. St,
52:25
t, t, t, t, t, there's the king
52:27
of hearts. So
52:29
I go, isn't that amazing wheels? Look what I just
52:31
did, and I did it all by myself. All
52:35
by myself. And now I
52:37
look at the lady, I go, same
52:39
deal. All this for
52:42
your piddly pay. You
52:44
know. Ace
52:47
of spades. Now,
52:51
I go, they're watching. Your job's
52:53
over here. I go,
52:55
Archie, just give me the Ace
52:57
of spades, right? And there
52:59
it is. And wheels goes, oh
53:01
my fucking God, what the fuck is
53:04
that? You know, so
53:06
I said, Archie, you know, don't
53:08
even worry. Keep it all. Whatever
53:10
I won with the blackjack, I go, wheels, gather
53:12
this up, let's get out of here. I want
53:14
to go back to the pool. It
53:16
was about $455,000 in winnings. That's
53:21
after I give him that 75. And
53:24
he's shaking, carrying it out in
53:26
Manila envelopes, just hugging it.
53:31
And then in the car, in the
53:33
limo going back, I said, you know what, wheels,
53:35
just put your hand in and take
53:38
whatever you think the 20 was worth. And
53:40
he just grabs it, it was a $10,000 pack. I
53:43
go, you earned it. I
53:45
go, not bad for $20, right? Jesus
53:47
Christ. Yeah, those are the kind of
53:49
plays I would have. It
53:52
was ridiculous, you know. But
53:55
I quit. Because
53:57
I've been at tables with guys.
54:00
high roller guys super
54:02
aggressive for you like a very aggressive
54:05
not only with your bets but on what you're taking
54:07
hit where you're going for stuff that is against
54:10
the fucking sit you know the the the
54:12
book you're just going Tommy yeah yeah aggressive
54:15
what do you think aggressive as shit yeah
54:18
and I could play one hand or I
54:20
could play the whole table and you would
54:22
do that too there were times I would
54:24
pull all small cards break cards split cards
54:27
against the deal is break card okay
54:32
and I would just look at it like a three
54:34
and a two you know all
54:37
all across you know all hands and
54:40
you're talking about ten thousand on each hand I
54:43
go you know what I don't feel like thinking
54:45
right now so uh yeah
54:47
I think you're just gonna break so I'm
54:51
good and you could see
54:53
the dealer go wait a minute you don't want
54:55
to hit on a five you
54:57
know I'm showing a three yeah
54:59
you know I'm good you're gonna
55:01
break you know it's all good
55:04
I don't want to get greedy you got a
55:06
pair of aces dice yeah yeah no good
55:08
good for me right yeah look what I
55:10
got you know just go ahead just break and
55:13
pay me you know and they would
55:15
break you know
55:17
it was an amazing time but there were
55:19
also times and any gamble that it says
55:21
they they don't lose is just lying to
55:24
your face you know there were times I
55:26
could lose seven hundred thousand in a night
55:29
you know one time I was
55:31
I was sitting with my father this is
55:33
another win you know and
55:35
we're at valleys and it's late at
55:38
night and I'm losing but dicking around
55:40
and my father had like 35 grand
55:43
left and he goes well what are you doing
55:45
how late do you want to stay up you
55:48
know just beat him already you know I
55:51
go all right you know and I just
55:53
go and I'd say Bobby
55:55
Lee comes with me and make
55:58
him an opening act for what
56:00
reason I don't know, you know, because I
56:02
would have fun with him at the comedy
56:05
store and I'd always bump him, which I
56:07
always enjoyed doing. Of course, he'd flip out
56:09
and leave if I came in. It just
56:12
always seemed to be him that was on
56:14
deck. Yeah. And you know, whoever the man does,
56:17
you want to go on? Yeah. Yeah.
56:19
Fuck this. So of course he was like
56:21
that. I figured, yeah, let him open for
56:23
me. Yeah. So I bring him to Bally's.
56:27
Okay. And the first night
56:29
with there, he watches
56:31
me lose quickly a quarter
56:33
million dollars. And
56:35
you know how Bobby Lee likes to sit
56:38
like on a couch, but not on it,
56:41
on the top of it. And he's got
56:43
his little hat and his heads in his hands. And I
56:45
go, what is your problem?
56:47
He goes, I don't have money for breakfast. You
56:53
know, and you just lost all. I go,
56:56
Bobby, it's the first night. It's
56:59
the warmup. You know, he
57:01
actually told the story recently and he
57:03
told it wrong. Yeah. You know, that
57:05
I want to, you know, I want
57:07
to go looking for him and go,
57:09
why didn't you just tell the truth?
57:11
Because you know, I wound up winning
57:13
over a half a million that weekend.
57:15
So he made like it was just
57:17
a lose. Yeah. But it wasn't because
57:19
the next day I got that 250
57:21
back in 10 minutes. You
57:23
know, when you're playing huge figures, like
57:25
I talk about Dana White, you know,
57:28
it comes and goes in a minute.
57:30
These are, it's monopoly money at that
57:32
point. Right. It's not like, I'm going
57:34
to tell you the tourists, the asshole,
57:36
the asshole that got his two weeks
57:38
off from his job that saved up
57:41
$1,500, $1,500 scared fucking dollars.
57:46
This fucking farmer that comes with
57:48
his family and the kid in
57:50
the fucking stroller and the wife,
57:52
he bet. He's dead money. Leave
57:54
me the fuck alone. I lost
57:56
half of it already. You
57:58
can't play like that. You
58:00
know, I used to take $200 when
58:03
I played the dunes for Mitzi the
58:05
comedy store Okay, and
58:07
the comics would come running back to her
58:10
because she got 15
58:12
shows $1,500 that's what you got for the
58:14
week, you know, and there were five comics
58:16
on the show And she
58:18
had the dune showroom. I go out
58:21
in between shows and when 15,000 with 200 You
58:24
know, I just had a feel a
58:27
gut feel for cards Yeah, you know,
58:29
but it also comes a point. I don't
58:31
want to do this anymore You
58:33
know that that's what happened. So for 10 years
58:37
I didn't play You
58:39
know and I didn't smoke
58:41
cigarettes and then bottom line
58:44
is we got hit with the recession You
58:47
know and I needed money, you
58:49
know, we all go through through shit with
58:51
money, you know and
58:53
I called it the summer of hangover and
58:56
Eleanor was actually with me and I
58:59
went to Vegas and
59:01
I just beat every major
59:03
hotel I actually had
59:05
a house in Vegas at the time. I didn't
59:07
even stay there Every hotel
59:10
I had the biggest suite they had, you
59:12
know, you did this in like oh eight or
59:14
yeah No, no more like nine.
59:17
No, was it nine? Yeah, yeah, and
59:20
I was just I went
59:22
down I had another wife at the
59:24
time or girl who the fuck even
59:26
knows already, you know The only
59:28
one I care about is sitting up here. The
59:30
only one worth anything in my life is in
59:33
that room. So There
59:36
was no Coca-Cola. It was the M hotel
59:39
So I said I'll be right
59:41
up. I want to go down and grab some coke and
59:45
at the time I had like 35
59:48
grand in cash whatever and I
59:51
come up less than 15 minutes
59:53
and Did you get the coke? I go? Oh, yeah,
59:55
I won 90,000 and When
59:59
did you? We win the 90,000. I
1:00:02
go, the place was empty. I sat down
1:00:05
and I won every hand. And then when I lost a
1:00:07
hand, I walked away. I go, now
1:00:09
we have some money to play. And
1:00:12
that wound up, that whole thing wound up
1:00:14
a million, 150, in winnings. It's
1:00:19
just, but with gambling, it just goes around and
1:00:21
around. But you gotta play with balls is what
1:00:24
it sounds like. 100%
1:00:26
of, you don't have balls, don't play. Because
1:00:29
even if you have a winning day, that
1:00:31
could be that part where you start losing,
1:00:35
you can't back up. It's
1:00:37
gambling, that's why they're called gambling. It's
1:00:39
taking a chance. I
1:00:41
know when I get on stage, I'm gonna win, unless
1:00:44
I hate the crowd and then I start throwing people
1:00:46
out. They
1:00:49
always say, I've been with people who have
1:00:51
moved. I love comedy a lot more. I haven't
1:00:54
gambled in years now or smoked. I just
1:00:56
don't wanna. And
1:00:59
just really enjoying comedy. And I
1:01:01
enjoy telling the audiences how I
1:01:03
don't wanna hang with them. Like
1:01:05
I'm watching Dane Cook on
1:01:08
the reels, whatever,
1:01:11
and he's talking about how he'll spend a
1:01:13
lot of time with the fans. And
1:01:16
I love my fans, but I
1:01:19
don't wanna hang out with them. You
1:01:21
know what I mean? But I'll tell them
1:01:23
that. That's the ethical move.
1:01:27
That's the more respected thing, is the
1:01:29
guy who says the reality of it,
1:01:31
as opposed to like, I love to
1:01:33
hang out. A guy wrote to me
1:01:35
on one of those posts with the picture.
1:01:38
He wrote to me the other day and he said,
1:01:42
I'm coming to New York Christmas
1:01:44
time. Basically, is
1:01:46
there any way we could meet somewhere that
1:01:48
we could make a little video and I
1:01:51
could take the picture? I'm such a fan.
1:01:54
And I replied to him. I
1:01:56
said, I don't wanna
1:01:59
spend a half. half a second with you.
1:02:02
You know, you
1:02:04
know, I don't want to meet you. I don't want
1:02:06
to know you, you know, and he
1:02:09
wrote like, yeah, yes,
1:02:11
sir, you know, and then
1:02:13
I said maybe that's a little too hard.
1:02:16
I said you know what Christmas is
1:02:18
like a beautiful time in New
1:02:20
York and I do love
1:02:23
going to the tree lighting service
1:02:25
and being in a corner, you
1:02:28
know, with my girlfriend, maybe, you know,
1:02:31
having a little hot chocolate. I go,
1:02:33
I loved it so much last year
1:02:35
that, you know, I took
1:02:38
my girl to I wrote this to him, you know,
1:02:40
to the Radio City, you
1:02:43
know, Christmas show. Sure. And I go, but
1:02:45
you know, I'm only a few rows back
1:02:48
and you know, the Rockettes, you
1:02:50
know, kicking their fucking feet. Now I'm sitting
1:02:52
there with a bone, right? So
1:02:54
I stopped biting into a fucking neck
1:02:56
and working over her finger furnace, you
1:02:59
know, you know, you know,
1:03:01
and you just want to bang into the
1:03:03
popsock. You know what I mean? These fucking
1:03:05
Rockettes like what are you doing? I'm dripping
1:03:07
fluid here, you know, and
1:03:10
my sugar
1:03:12
plum I call her, she goes, they're
1:03:15
thinking it's me. I go,
1:03:18
no, but I'm not really writing
1:03:20
about you. You know, it's made
1:03:22
up. Yeah, but I love
1:03:24
when she thinks it's hot. I go, why
1:03:26
we got it a Christmas show? Did we
1:03:28
see the Rockettes? You know,
1:03:30
it's just funny. I like to be
1:03:33
outrageous to the fans. So
1:03:35
I love it, dude. Yeah, even on stage. I
1:03:37
love telling them, look, I'll give you everything I
1:03:39
got, you know, but
1:03:42
make no mistake. I
1:03:44
don't want to meet you. There's
1:03:46
a reason there's no meet and greets. Yeah. I
1:03:48
have nothing to say. What are you going to
1:03:50
show me? An old picture of me, sign
1:03:53
this, and then we take pictures
1:03:55
like we're asshole buddies. I don't want you
1:03:57
to touch me. I just
1:03:59
want to. make you laugh your balls off and
1:04:01
I want you out of my life forever. You
1:04:04
know what I mean? I
1:04:07
can't do a meet and greet either man. I can't do it. I'm
1:04:09
just like you in that sense. I don't want to
1:04:11
meet. What did they do to you? You've done them.
1:04:13
I've done them. So why'd you stop?
1:04:15
I hated it. I hated every second.
1:04:18
Why? What did they do to
1:04:20
you? Fucking diarrhea breath. You know
1:04:22
I want to tell you a story, tell you
1:04:24
a story about either another
1:04:26
time that they
1:04:28
had seen you or I've got a real
1:04:30
funny story to tell you and I'm like
1:04:32
fucking aint. The funny story.
1:04:34
The funny story comes or
1:04:37
yeah just like yeah people you know
1:04:39
too intimate like on you. I
1:04:41
don't enjoy it. Now the
1:04:44
thing is I've said this for years so what happens is
1:04:46
in public people come up to me and they go I
1:04:48
know you hate people. I go I don't hate people. And
1:04:52
they're like I can see you hating people.
1:04:54
I can see you a little bit. When
1:05:00
somebody asks me for a photo and I'm
1:05:02
always like yeah sure man no problem whatever
1:05:04
like you know passing around walking down the
1:05:07
street or whatever but an organized meet and
1:05:09
greet just isn't for me. I
1:05:12
experienced it to the point where I was like I don't
1:05:14
enjoy this. I don't want to do
1:05:16
it. So I just stopped doing it
1:05:19
years ago. You see I
1:05:21
with me you know
1:05:23
because of my attitude
1:05:25
on stage. They get
1:05:27
handsy. Yeah. They'll put me
1:05:30
in headlocks or try to.
1:05:33
And you know so I've had
1:05:35
a lot of physical altercations. Really. Yeah.
1:05:39
And I had a guy. Oh man.
1:05:42
Eleanor had to get in between. You know Eleanor's
1:05:44
tough. She'll fight. She loves to fight.
1:05:47
I don't know if you know that about her. I
1:05:49
didn't know that. I did in South Philly. Ten brothers
1:05:51
and sisters. One time a
1:05:53
guy flicked the cigarette at me at
1:05:55
the 7-Eleven on Sunset. Right
1:05:58
through to. a
1:06:00
bum, like a straight bum, here's your fucking
1:06:02
cigarette. And he flicks it at me through
1:06:04
the window. So I gotta get
1:06:06
out, I gotta bare temper. Eleanor, I
1:06:09
had the long Cadillac brome, big white brome.
1:06:12
She comes flying across the hood like Starsky
1:06:14
and Hutch. I'm not even gonna, and punches
1:06:16
the guy in the chest, you
1:06:19
know, because she knows I can't have a
1:06:21
lawsuit, you know, that way. And,
1:06:23
but yeah, lots of fights. And Eleanor would
1:06:25
get into, you know. And, um.
1:06:27
So you cut those off though, the meet and greet.
1:06:29
You cut it off too. Yeah, well, you know, you
1:06:33
know, I remember, yeah. Guy
1:06:35
grabs me like hard on the, forget
1:06:37
that one. This is the best. Yeah.
1:06:40
So it's a muscle guy, you
1:06:42
know. And no matter what, I don't know if
1:06:44
he's tough, but they're strong, no matter what. Yeah.
1:06:47
He's taller than me, but I mean a real
1:06:49
muscle guy, like with the traps. Yeah, yeah. You
1:06:51
know, this is what he does, a bodybuilder. And
1:06:54
his girlfriend. So we would
1:06:56
sell T-shirts and then they take a picture.
1:06:59
And Eleanor would snap the picture. And
1:07:02
all of a sudden,
1:07:05
now I know how, all
1:07:07
right, I feel a
1:07:09
hand going up the crack of my ass. Stop.
1:07:13
You know, I'm not even kidding, it's the guy. And
1:07:15
he goes like this. At
1:07:19
first you don't realize what's happening. Yeah, you
1:07:21
got shocked. Because am I feeling, now I
1:07:23
know what girls talk about when they say
1:07:25
they've been harassed or they touched them. You
1:07:28
know, it's awful. It bothered me
1:07:30
for a while, but I snap out and
1:07:32
I go after the guy. But Eleanor gets
1:07:35
in between to make sure the fight doesn't
1:07:37
happen. Because he could have had
1:07:39
somebody filming it. You know, nobody's
1:07:41
gonna see him do that with his hand up
1:07:43
my ass. And it
1:07:45
was like embarrassing also. It's like, you
1:07:47
know, I'm dice and you got your
1:07:49
hand in the crack of my ass.
1:07:51
Not even your girlfriend. You. You
1:07:54
know, guys are worse than me, with
1:07:56
me, than women. Across the board, I
1:07:58
think. You know. I
1:10:00
mean like my dream was never
1:10:02
to do a Woody Allen movie right then against
1:10:04
them, but I'm not a woody freak sure
1:10:06
You know I mean I love some of his
1:10:08
movies like Broadway Danny Rose is one of my
1:10:10
favorites But it's like I didn't you
1:10:13
know I love acting I didn't even want to do
1:10:15
comedy I wanted to be an actor right we'll
1:10:17
talk about that next time maybe and um
1:10:21
But that's why I was have on stage as
1:10:23
a comic you know to develop acting chops Radling
1:10:26
going to acting school once a week Be
1:10:28
on a stage every night and develop my own
1:10:30
method of acting Mm-hmm and um
1:10:33
so anyway I look at the two
1:10:35
pages and I look at her and
1:10:37
I go all right Let's go in you know and
1:10:40
she goes. It's woody Allen. You don't want to Take
1:10:43
some time. I go. I gotta
1:10:45
catch a plane You know you
1:10:47
know the guy either digs me or he doesn't you know
1:10:50
and I come in and the the funny
1:10:52
thing with woody is When you do the
1:10:54
audition he's not sitting in the chair He'll
1:10:56
stand like right here with this where
1:10:59
this is and watch me, and you
1:11:01
do the scene you know like
1:11:03
this just Like this and
1:11:06
I said if you want you know I could do it a little
1:11:08
different if you want to give me a little direct He goes no
1:11:10
that was there that was perfect You
1:11:13
know and I leave great meeting you
1:11:15
you know I'm pleasant that way. I'm not
1:11:17
on stage now you know But
1:11:21
I will say when I got the text
1:11:23
I was at my Vegas house there was
1:11:25
I was alone There was nobody to even
1:11:27
tell Then I'm walking around
1:11:29
the house like in a circle going I
1:11:31
got a woody Allen movie Yeah, I got
1:11:33
it that happened because I saw you got
1:11:36
the it was from my man So
1:11:38
I knew what it was gonna say and that
1:11:40
was thrilling. I mean to you know Peter
1:11:44
saws gone and Kate Blanchett and what about
1:11:46
on set? What was he like like when
1:11:48
you were on set with like you know
1:11:50
what you don't really? Bother
1:11:54
with him much you know
1:11:56
and You
1:11:59
know He'll tell you what he wants,
1:12:02
but you know, it
1:12:04
was pretty, I
1:12:06
knew the part, I understood the part.
1:12:09
You know, Sally
1:12:12
Hawkins played my wife in that and
1:12:15
you know, I also had my older son with me
1:12:17
who at that time was about, I don't know, I
1:12:20
don't know, 21 or 22 and so I would tell him because
1:12:26
he knows me better than Woody. So
1:12:28
I got him to stand near the
1:12:30
monitor with Woody, you know,
1:12:33
and I go, you just tell me what I got
1:12:35
to do, you know, and so
1:12:38
that was one scene. So the
1:12:40
first scene, I go, the one little
1:12:42
dicey moment is when I like the
1:12:44
cigarette. I'll use a Zippo, you
1:12:46
know. So he comes up, Woody
1:12:48
tells me what he wants to tell me in between,
1:12:51
now here comes my son. He goes, all
1:12:53
right, everything's perfect. He goes,
1:12:55
lift the lighter a little higher. They're
1:12:58
not seeing the lighter. I'm
1:13:01
going, okay, I got it. Because we wanted
1:13:03
to get the flick of the lighter. Yeah. You
1:13:06
know, so I was down here rather than up here. And
1:13:09
then he comes over again and he goes,
1:13:11
perfect. I don't even know
1:13:13
why they're doing another take. Wow. You
1:13:15
know, yeah, so he sort of directed me
1:13:18
through that movie. Yeah. Like
1:13:21
I listened to Woody, but I know my son knows
1:13:23
me better and I was, you
1:13:25
know, my relationship in that movie was,
1:13:28
you know, I'm with Sally
1:13:30
and she divorces me, which
1:13:33
I was already divorced from his mother. So
1:13:36
he knows my emotion. Yeah, yeah.
1:13:38
Was like that. So, yeah, I
1:13:40
got to work, you know, Star
1:13:42
is Born, Bradley Cooper, Gaga, you
1:13:45
know, these are great films and
1:13:47
Scorsese, amazing. I
1:13:50
changed every word of every scene. Did
1:13:52
you really? And I
1:13:54
would call him, we just got
1:13:56
along like, you know, the minute we met,
1:13:59
like, yeah, like we. been hanging out for
1:14:01
30 years. And he just
1:14:03
loved where I went with the with
1:14:05
the part and he goes we're gonna
1:14:07
go oh look at it and
1:14:09
I'll listen and then I'll tell you what I I
1:14:12
love it I love it do it that's the way we're
1:14:14
doing it. That's how
1:14:17
it worked. Wow. Yeah he was he
1:14:19
was a myth that's why he's Scorsese
1:14:21
because he'll let an actor really dig
1:14:23
deep into a character and
1:14:26
I only did a few scenes in
1:14:28
vinyl but they were in ten scenes.
1:14:30
Yeah. You know and when I handed
1:14:33
when when I gave
1:14:35
Bobby kind of vow Woody Allen
1:14:37
told me give Bobby the new
1:14:39
lines from handwritten you
1:14:42
know with a sharpie full
1:14:44
capital letters and
1:14:46
Bobby's looking at me in Scorsese thinking it's
1:14:49
a joke and he's going so
1:14:51
I'm gonna ignore Terrence winter
1:14:54
and just do a dice wrote and
1:14:57
Scorsese's like Bobby go have
1:14:59
your lunch learn the lines and that's how we're
1:15:01
doing it. Wow. He's looking like
1:15:03
Bobby would come over to me the greatest
1:15:05
guy by the way Bobby kind of out
1:15:07
yeah one of the great actors amazing and
1:15:09
he goes were
1:15:12
you and Marty like tight before
1:15:14
this shoot and I
1:15:16
go no because why
1:15:18
you at his house I've never been to
1:15:21
his house I
1:15:23
don't know what to tell you that's amazing because
1:15:26
I feel the two of you were goofing on
1:15:28
me yeah you know but all
1:15:30
these you know this stuff I
1:15:32
wanted to do when I was a kid you
1:15:35
know I really didn't get to do
1:15:37
because I went through cancel
1:15:39
culture before it had a name yeah
1:15:42
I was the only one really you really are
1:15:45
and so I did
1:15:47
get blackballed in the film industry
1:15:50
for years till around
1:15:52
2010 and then
1:15:55
I got to live every dream I stuck
1:15:57
to my guns got to work with the
1:15:59
greatest
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